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(Digital Trends)   Surely by now, everyone realizes that the largest group of video gamers are adults. Why then, is there so little sex in video games? Custer's Revenge notwithstanding   (digitaltrends.com) divider line 165
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2012-06-25 01:53:54 AM
Because maybe we don't need sex in our video games?

Well that and polygonal breasts would look terrible.
 
2012-06-25 02:12:05 AM
Because sex in video games is creepy.
 
2012-06-25 02:37:12 AM
Leisure suit Larry disagrees.
 
2012-06-25 03:34:44 AM
ITT: People who have never visited ULMF or Hongfire claim there is no sex in video games.

(Obviously, that statement carries the mother of all NSFW connotations, should you choose to visit either.)
 
2012-06-25 06:30:30 AM
because porn?

www.inquisitr.com
 
2012-06-25 08:52:20 AM
A A B B A ^ ^ A A A A A AAAAA!!!
 
2012-06-25 09:10:25 AM
Because sex scenes in movies are stupid, unrealistic, and gratuitous even though there are real actors.

Video game sex scenes are even worse.
 
2012-06-25 09:27:12 AM
In my opinion, I don't really think sex scenes are necessary. And if they are included, if they're not done right, they are really difficult to take seriously. Throw in the possibility of modding, and you get all kinds of ridiculous 'skimpy' this and 'doggy style' that kinds of mods that sometimes make one roll one's eyes.

That being said; IF sex in a game is done well, it can be enjoyable. A good example in my mind is Dragon Age: Origins. A bad example would be its sequel, Dragon Age II.

Also, adding in sex to a video game can be a controversial decision. If you decide to budget the game more tightly by adding only heterosexual encounters, all the gays (myself included) get a little bit irritated by this, especially if the game company has a history of including homoerotic experiences in past games (see BioWare). If the game company decides to be inclusive, and add homosexual experiences as well, they run the risk of alienating the more conservative fan base.

If sex is done well, it can enhance RPG video games greatly, and can be seen as a reward for complex interactions and play choices with certain NPCs. If done poorly, it makes the game laughable. But in the end, I can take it or leave it. If I was forced to choose between sex and no sex in all future games though, I'd probably pick no sex since it's the least risky option for a potentially enjoyable game.
 
2012-06-25 09:31:27 AM
The real problem is that we can't have sex with video game characters yet.
 
2012-06-25 09:38:39 AM
Not once have I ever been playing a video game and thought "gee, I wish there was some kinky sex right here".

It's different in a TV show or movie. I mean... my hands are busy playing the game! Don't give me conflicting desires like that!
 
2012-06-25 09:58:54 AM
Leisure Suit Larry. Now that was hot.
 
2012-06-25 10:07:34 AM

Cythraul: If sex is done well, it can enhance RPG video games greatly, and can be seen as a reward for complex interactions and play choices with certain NPCs. If done poorly, it makes the game laughable. But in the end, I can take it or leave it. If I was forced to choose between sex and no sex in all future games though, I'd probably pick no sex since it's the least risky option for a potentially enjoyable game.


I'm not a big fan of romances in general, but sometimes those lead to different rewards. More character options, dialogue, stat increases etc. If the reward is just a sex scene, I'd much rather they left it out altogether.
 
2012-06-25 10:39:16 AM
Because videogame developers write games to get girls, and to get girls to play can't put boy sex in, because it'd annoy the girls and they wouldn't play your game.
 
2012-06-25 11:11:55 AM
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2012-06-25 12:06:23 PM
The biggest obstacle is that too many people who would oppose putting sex in anything cannot admit that "video games" can be for adults.

/Hot Coffee
 
2012-06-25 12:27:06 PM
Diablo 3 had a scene that was amusing, creepy, and full of innuendo in Act 2. Haven't gotten elsewhere yet.

I'll tell you why (without RTFA).

Money, and they can make a hell of a lot more selling Teen rated games than Mature or Adults Only. Same reason studios want PG-13 over R movies.

//And who really wants a XXXMMORPG?
 
2012-06-25 12:30:10 PM

meat0918: //And who really wants a XXXMMORPG?


You mean Second Life?
 
2012-06-25 12:31:48 PM
Because with the video game rating system, if you created a decent sexual video game, you could only sell it at places that sell Adult Only rated games, and that cuts out your biggest video game stores, not to mention, where the fark would you advertise the game at?

There is a reason why porn games look like crap. You really can't make money off of them so why bring your A game?
 
2012-06-25 12:32:04 PM

Mike_LowELL: ITT: People who have never visited ULMF or Hongfire claim there is no sex in video games.

(Obviously, that statement carries the mother of all NSFW connotations, should you choose to visit either.)


I have no idea what ULMF is, but I've visited hongfire before and was rather amazed at the collection of sex games you can find there along with mods and what not for each. Thing is, the vast majority of them appeared to be of Japanese in origin and all the good bits were censored.

Yes folks, there's loads of games that are about nothing but sex, but dear god do they suck. (no pun intended.)
 
2012-06-25 12:34:27 PM
I have a wife for sex.

I play video games so I can kill people without getting in trouble.

I don't care to mix these things.
 
2012-06-25 12:34:41 PM
In case you weren't aware of it, there are plenty of sex videogames. It is a thriving industry, people are making a lot of money, and they are doing so pretty much independently of the advertising industry. Lessons which can be taken from that are:

1) Sex sells no matter what the packaging or delivery method is.
2) Some people really are pathetically lacking in social skills.
3) The advertising industry is largely non-essential thanks to the internet.
 
2012-06-25 12:38:01 PM

meat0918: //And who really wants a XXXMMORPG?


Isn't that what Second Life is??
 
2012-06-25 12:38:09 PM
The games industry hasn't reached that level of maturity yet. Not "maturity" as in rating, "maturity" as in being able to tell a compelling story where sex taking part within the context of the game works as a plot element to improve the overall story being told.

Some devs are still trying (BioWare, Quantic Dream, etc.), but we're still some years and some evolution away from really getting to where sex as an integral story element can work well within gameplay.

If games were movies, we're essentially still in the porn and exploitation phase, with some stumbling movement into serious drama and art house territory. Give it time and another generation of game devs. It'll get there.
 
2012-06-25 12:39:51 PM
The Japanese have had ero-games for years. They are basically sexy choose your own adventure stories. If you're really lucky, you get a minigame, but for the most part these games are made to be played "one handed".

Mass effect allowed you to romance and make love, but fade to black. Artistically, there is nothing to be gained from showing Sheppard bone their love interest.

Duke Nukem 3d allowed you to pay a stripper money and she'd flash you.


The honest truth is that for the most part, there is no good way to make a sexual intercourse game mechanic. This immediately makes sex as a game play element completely impractical.

If sex cannot be used as a game play element, then it must be used for plot exposition. Given America's stupid obsession with not seeing naked bodies, It's much more sensible to move plot exposition to some non sexual situation and get the "E for everyone" rating for your first person shooter. ಠ_ಠ

Ultimately, you can't make a good farking minigame, and sex is almost never required for plot exposition.
 
2012-06-25 12:41:11 PM
Leather Goddesses of Phobos?
 
2012-06-25 12:41:21 PM
Because it's perversion. The reason we're such a morally corrupt society is the inclusion of deviant sexual media from other cultures. Frankly anyone who wants sex in video games probably also watches the pornography and should be locked up and given treatment, the same that we do for drug addicts.
 
2012-06-25 12:41:25 PM
Heavy Rain had an interactive sex scene and it felt totally out of place for the medium. It just comes of as strange and pandering when it's thrown in, even if it tries to do it tastefully.
 
2012-06-25 12:41:41 PM

meat0918: Money, and they can make a hell of a lot more selling Teen rated games than Mature or Adults Only. Same reason studios want PG-13 over R movies.


That seems reasonable, except that there's a lot of triple-A titles that are rated M. I don't see a lot of stampeding to get a T rating.

It makes sense if you think about it. The reason that PG-13 is the holy grail in Hollywood is because they want to get entire families to go see their movies and there's a gatekeeper at the ticket window to keep kids out without parents.

When it comes to buying titles for home there aren't nearly as many obstacles to selling an M title, especially since the only gatekeeper is at the point of purchase, where, unlike a movie, you don't have to bring your kids to the counter to buy the product. If a dad wants to buy God of War for his own pleasure, he can do it quite easily, and it's entirely up to him whether or not he wants to let his kids play it, too.
 
2012-06-25 12:43:46 PM

verbal_jizm: Because sex in video games is creepy.


Pretty much.

When it comes to video game violence, we don't care that it's not photo-realistic. In fact, that's one of the things that makes violence in video games so acceptable: it doesn't really look like the real thing.

Sex, though? That falls right into a very creepy crevice of the uncanny valley.
 
2012-06-25 12:43:55 PM
There was a mini event in God of War that allowed you to have your way with some women. It replenished your health and mana, IIRC.
 
2012-06-25 12:44:59 PM
I had sex with a woman with goat legs in The Witcher 2.

I even had to betray someone to do it, but I needed that sweet goat ass.
 
2012-06-25 12:45:01 PM
Because the intersection of "hardcore gamers" and "people who have sex" is a null set.

sithon: Leisure suit Larry disagrees.


Also, this.

/Played LSL waaaay back in the late 1980s on an IBM PS/2 Model 30.
 
2012-06-25 12:45:25 PM

Yuri Futanari: Because it's perversion. The reason we're such a morally corrupt society is the inclusion of deviant sexual media from other cultures. Frankly anyone who wants sex in video games probably also watches the pornography and should be locked up and given treatment, the same that we do for drug addicts.


Hah! You think we actually rehabilitate drug addicts!
 
2012-06-25 12:45:48 PM
And what sex would you put into a video game?

Video games are about about achieving goals through a mixture of puzzles, speed and dexterity. You can make a game where someone has to shoot Nazis without getting shot. But simulating say, seduction isn't easy.

Consider how you get the "Achievement Unlocked: 3rd Base". You've got to be attractive to a woman from a number of points of view like physical attraction, wealth, humour, youth, how you dress, hobbies and so forth. You then need time, the right environment, you need to pace things right. I once was getting on real well with a woman and just went too fast, going for a snog on the first dance, and she blew me out, wouldn't talk to me, answer my calls.

And the problem is that simulating that is pretty complicated, even from just a verbal perspective, because we don't have advanced Turing Test-passing machines that simulate a woman on a date. You can, at best, end up with multiple choice situations, but then, people just work things out quite quickly. Fact is, the most advanced sex game that we have is probably Leisure Suit Larry.
 
2012-06-25 12:46:31 PM

fluffy2097: The Japanese have had ero-games for years. They are basically sexy choose your own adventure stories. If you're really lucky, you get a minigame, but for the most part these games are made to be played "one handed".

Mass effect allowed you to romance and make love, but fade to black. Artistically, there is nothing to be gained from showing Sheppard bone their love interest.

Duke Nukem 3d allowed you to pay a stripper money and she'd flash you.


The honest truth is that for the most part, there is no good way to make a sexual intercourse game mechanic. This immediately makes sex as a game play element completely impractical.

If sex cannot be used as a game play element, then it must be used for plot exposition. Given America's stupid obsession with not seeing naked bodies, It's much more sensible to move plot exposition to some non sexual situation and get the "E for everyone" rating for your first person shooter. ಠ_ಠ

Ultimately, you can't make a good farking minigame, and sex is almost never required for plot exposition.


Almost never, but I can name a few. Godfather II for the 360 has you running a string of brothels, strip joints and a joint that produces porn. Needless to say, the female characters in such locations are typically bikini-clad at most, most often topless or naked. There's also the scene where you catch Senator Geary with a dead hooker.
 
2012-06-25 12:46:45 PM
The self-described "hardcore gamer" won't accept anything like that unless it is as "realistic" as possible, which in current terms means 3D. But the 3D graphics folks have yet to make it look realistic enough: in the context of the current crop of games that have tried this, "uncanny valley" is no mere innuendo.

Among those who don't fetishize realism quite so much, there's been a thriving industry in this sort of thing for years if not decades.
 
2012-06-25 12:46:48 PM
What I want to know is why I can watch a man cut off his own nipples or get literally shot to pieces in the middle of the day on cable but a woman taking a shower or changing clothes causes a sh*tstorm of controversy.

This country is fncked up.

As far as video games go...

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-25 12:46:55 PM

fluffy2097: Mass effect allowed you to romance and make love, but fade to black. Artistically, there is nothing to be gained from showing Sheppard bone their love interest.


Out of all of Biowares games that had an intimate scene, the first Mass Effect had the only good one. Darkened camera, out of focus, didn't really show much but it doesn't have to. The later games, as well as Dragon Age, were just messes of horribly jerky animations and looked terribly out of place. They should have just stuck with the same style as ME1, or done nothing and keep the fade-to-black standard.
 
2012-06-25 12:50:56 PM

Yuri Futanari: Because it's perversion. The reason we're such a morally corrupt society is the inclusion of deviant sexual media from other cultures. Frankly anyone who wants sex in video games probably also watches the pornography and should be locked up and given treatment, the same that we do for drug addicts.


Your handle is what makes that post
 
2012-06-25 12:51:08 PM

MightyPez: Heavy Rain had an interactive sex scene and it felt totally out of place for the medium. It just comes of as strange and pandering when it's thrown in, even if it tries to do it tastefully.


Haha man I forgot about that scene in that game. That was the weirdest/funniest segment in any game that I've ever played.
 
2012-06-25 12:51:18 PM
Video games are much more about violence than they are about sex, in general.

Killing someone is a an easy way to determine whether you win. You kill, you win. You don't, you lose. Simple as that.

What would be the end game for a sex-based game? Getting video-laid? I feel like getting turned down by a video game girl would be a new low for many gamers out there.....
 
2012-06-25 12:54:34 PM

keepitcherry: MightyPez: Heavy Rain had an interactive sex scene and it felt totally out of place for the medium. It just comes of as strange and pandering when it's thrown in, even if it tries to do it tastefully.

Haha man I forgot about that scene in that game. That was the weirdest/funniest segment in any game that I've ever played.


What made it worse for me is my best friend would watch me play it because we were both so engaged with the story. After a few minutes I shouted out, "For the record this is pretty uncomfortable and I don't think there is a way to skip it. I have to keep fondling her until it's done!"
 
2012-06-25 12:54:44 PM

Beaver1224: The biggest obstacle is that too many people who would oppose putting sex in anything cannot admit that "video games" can be for adults.

/Hot Coffee


The funny thing about Hot Coffee is games showed everything that showed without a ratings problem. The only substantive difference was that Hot Coffee had interactivity during the sex act, and the circumstances of Hot Coffee's discovery.
 
2012-06-25 12:59:38 PM

netweavr: meat0918: //And who really wants a XXXMMORPG?

You mean Second Life?


aka Furry Valhalla
 
2012-06-25 01:00:43 PM

Aarontology: Because sex scenes in movies are stupid, unrealistic, and gratuitous even though there are real actors.

Video game sex scenes are even worse.


some_beer_drinker: because porn?



aaaaaand thread/
 
2012-06-25 01:00:45 PM

farkeruk: And what sex would you put into a video game?

Video games are about about achieving goals through a mixture of puzzles, speed and dexterity. You can make a game where someone has to shoot Nazis without getting shot. But simulating say, seduction isn't easy.

Consider how you get the "Achievement Unlocked: 3rd Base". You've got to be attractive to a woman from a number of points of view like physical attraction, wealth, humour, youth, how you dress, hobbies and so forth. You then need time, the right environment, you need to pace things right. I once was getting on real well with a woman and just went too fast, going for a snog on the first dance, and she blew me out, wouldn't talk to me, answer my calls.

And the problem is that simulating that is pretty complicated, even from just a verbal perspective, because we don't have advanced Turing Test-passing machines that simulate a woman on a date. You can, at best, end up with multiple choice situations, but then, people just work things out quite quickly. Fact is, the most advanced sex game that we have is probably Leisure Suit Larry.


That's why there are tenacles. Lots of tentacles. And robots.
 
2012-06-25 01:04:42 PM
Don't the console manufacturers have final say in what titles can be published for their machine? I'm sure Sony's would not want the reputation for being the pron console, so they don't allow devs to make pron games for the PS3.

So that would leave PCs as the place for pron gaming... and if you are on a PC find pron is not exactly difficult.
 
2012-06-25 01:06:13 PM

Kuroshin: The games industry hasn't reached that level of maturity yet. Not "maturity" as in rating, "maturity" as in being able to tell a compelling story where sex taking part within the context of the game works as a plot element to improve the overall story being told.

Some devs are still trying (BioWare, Quantic Dream, etc.), but we're still some years and some evolution away from really getting to where sex as an integral story element can work well within gameplay.

If games were movies, we're essentially still in the porn and exploitation phase, with some stumbling movement into serious drama and art house territory. Give it time and another generation of game devs. It'll get there.


Yeah, came here to say almost exactly this. As others note, there are tons of sex games, but there aren't very many games that aren't about sex, but still include it as a plot or character device. Probably Bioware is the most cutting edge in that regard, but they still haven't quite got it right.
 
2012-06-25 01:08:15 PM
About the only "sex" in video games I ever found worthwhile was Liberty City were you could get a hooker, drive into some trees, and get a health bonus. It was amusing and you could kill her to get your money back. Even then they didn't show it, they just played some amusing sounds of the car's suspension squeaking.

As others have said, you're playing video games to do something you normally can't do. Everyone can jerk off except for the paraplegics.
 
2012-06-25 01:11:21 PM
Because DDR style game mechanics are hard to do one handed?
 
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