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2012-06-25 02:29:57 PM

debbie_does_dishes: This isn't a lone example either. Many players never disclose when they are injured during playoffs because it gives the other team a target. Grin and bear it, release the details later.


Too bad this never happens in the NBA, like, say, Paul Pierce having a sprained MCL and playing in the playoffs.

Also, how do you know about all these injuries guys are playing through if they don't disclose them? Same goes for the NBA players - they don't really say anything until they can't play. Like Mike Miller hobbling up and down the court with his back problems.
 
2012-06-25 02:30:48 PM

Marisyana: /Sid's gotten a lot better
//LeBron, however, remains a douche


This is the opposite of what I saw during both playoffs.
 
2012-06-25 02:35:22 PM

balki1867: ....
Um, no its more like 20 when you account for the 4 lines. Besides how do you account for the fact that NHL players can regularly play into their 40s (or almost their 50s if your name is Chris Chelios) whereas its almost unheard of in the NBA? Your conditioning falls off way quicker than your ability to take a hit.


My best guess is overall wear and tear on the knees.

In the NHL your either skating up and down the rink (unless your the goalie) and in the NBA your running up and down the court on hardwood. I figure the NBA puts more wear and tear on your knees than the NHL does.

Once your knee gets injured, you cannot really do much in the way of running or skating. That in turn means your not doing much cardio.

I still say NBA players are not playing through injury the way NHL players do though, but it's one thing to play through cracked ribs a collision injury. It is another to play past a chronic breakdown of your joints. Part of that is just culture of the game. NBA rules try for non contact, and it is easier to draw a foul in a non contact sport. If Hockey evolves towards non contact, you will see a farkton more flopping.

END COMMUNICATION
 
2012-06-25 02:35:49 PM

IAmRight: debbie_does_dishes: This isn't a lone example either. Many players never disclose when they are injured during playoffs because it gives the other team a target. Grin and bear it, release the details later.

Too bad this never happens in the NBA, like, say, Paul Pierce having a sprained MCL and playing in the playoffs.

Also, how do you know about all these injuries guys are playing through if they don't disclose them? Same goes for the NBA players - they don't really say anything until they can't play. Like Mike Miller hobbling up and down the court with his back problems.


I'll honestly state that I have no idea how injured NBA players will allow themselves to get before taking a seat. If they also do torn MCLs, then find NBA and NHL are equal in that respect. Hockey can get away with hairline feet fractures but that may be a result of the hockey skate's rigidity vs BBall high tops.

Again, how are we defining player toughness?

Also, Sid being a little biatch in the playoffs had more to do with the opponent being the Flyers than anything. He should be better than that and he knows it.

/still disgusted by that performance
 
2012-06-25 02:36:04 PM

IAmRight: You are saying the players are tougher. No, the sport is "tougher." Not the players.


So...the guys playing the tougher sport aren't tougher than the guys playing the less tough sport. Makes sense to me.

/You aren't "stupider" than everyone else. No your posts and your arguments are "stupider".
 
2012-06-25 02:36:04 PM

IAmRight: NutznGum: Hockey isn't as harsh on the legs? This is from one blocked shot, some players will block 4 or 5 in a game.

Holy sh*t you people are really, genuinely stupid, aren't you? When an activity is described as "hard on your back" do you think that's referring to how many times something hits you in the back?

NutznGum: Wouldn't 'taking more abuse in a game' kind of be the definition of toughness? How are you defining it?

You are saying the players are tougher. No, the sport is "tougher." Not the players.

boozehat: Hockey players on the other hand laugh, and twat their opinions at basket ball players.

And then fall to the ice when a stick gets anywhere near their head level. Or jump to the ice anytime a stick gets near their skates when they f*ck up a shot.


Taking a dive in hockey is a 2 minute minor.... and you pretty much solidify getting your ass beat for flopping.

In the NBA, it's called playing basketball.

Don't even start me on soccer.
 
2012-06-25 02:36:15 PM

Marisyana: Sid's gotten a lot better


I had to adjust my opinion of him after he took that puck to the side of the head and came back to play in the next period a few seasons ago... I loathe the Penguins and it'll be a cold day in hell before I'll ever root for them or Crosby (Let's Go, Bruins!), but, yeah...
 
2012-06-25 02:37:36 PM

Lord Zardoz: in the NBA your running up and down the court on hardwood.


And jumping and landing awkwardly a hundred or more times per game.

That's the reason for a lot of "flopping" - it's better to land on your full body than it is to land awkwardly on your feet and blow out an ankle or knee. Blunt force doesn't damage your career like twisting/tearing a ligament.
 
2012-06-25 02:43:54 PM

IAmRight: NutznGum: Hockey isn't as harsh on the legs? This is from one blocked shot, some players will block 4 or 5 in a game.

Holy sh*t you people are really, genuinely stupid, aren't you? When an activity is described as "hard on your back" do you think that's referring to how many times something hits you in the back?

NutznGum: Wouldn't 'taking more abuse in a game' kind of be the definition of toughness? How are you defining it?

You are saying the players are tougher. No, the sport is "tougher." Not the players.


We're stupid but you're the one saying hockey is a tougher sport than basketball but ISN'T played by tougher athletes. Wouldn't the the tougher sport to play be played by tougher athletes, can you see how one might come to that conclusion?
 
2012-06-25 02:43:56 PM

js34603: So...the guys playing the tougher sport aren't tougher than the guys playing the less tough sport. Makes sense to me.

/You aren't "stupider" than everyone else. No your posts and your arguments are "stupider".


If you honestly can't understand the difference between the two, you probably shouldn't be allowed out of your room. And I think you're pretty much showing that you can't by not being able to tell the difference between a stupid argument (this is a stupid argument overall - toughness is defined individually and so the argument is stupid - I'm just pointing out the flaws of saying that some people are "tougher" than others based on completely irrelevant data) and a stupid person (your not knowing the difference indicates that you are stupid).

debbie_does_dishes: Again, how are we defining player toughness?


I dunno, most people seem to want to change it every time I point out that every bit of "toughness" they're claiming is a result of the rules of the game and have nothing to do with an innate quality of the players. Some seem to fail to understand the difference between the players and the game, even.
 
2012-06-25 02:44:05 PM
Oh... It's a thread with Lebron mentioned and iamwrong is posting in multiples of two? WHO COULD HAVE FORSEEN THIS¿¿¿¿¿¿

I prefer basketball but hockey players flop less and take more abuse without whining while generally being shorter and lighter. I think that means they are many degrees tougher than basketball players, annoyingly defensive basketball apologists aside.
 
2012-06-25 02:48:07 PM

inclemency: Oh... It's a thread with Lebron mentioned and iamwrong is posting in multiples of two? WHO COULD HAVE FORSEEN THIS¿¿¿¿¿¿

I prefer basketball but hockey players flop less and take more abuse without whining while generally being shorter and lighter. I think that means they are many degrees tougher than basketball players, annoyingly defensive basketball apologists aside.


I believe his real name is Chris Chase.
 
2012-06-25 02:48:15 PM

NutznGum: Wouldn't the the tougher sport to play be played by tougher athletes, can you see how one might come to that conclusion?


You could say that if, say, the NHL were the most popular league in the world and the threshold for getting in was that you had to be x amount of tough to be in the league, and the NBA was where players who couldn't handle the NHL went.

Currently, however, the NBA is far more popular than the NHL and sources its players from everyone in the world. Hockey players are chosen from a very narrow swath of the population that can afford to play the sport at a young age. They require two completely different skillsets that have pretty much nothing to do with one another. Only a moron would actually think that someone is tougher because of the sport that they play.

It's like saying someone's tougher than someone else because they work a blue-collar job vs becoming an office manager - gee, the guy should turn down the promotion to the job where you actually get paid and are a leader because it's "not as tough"? There are tough people and soft people in all professions.
 
2012-06-25 02:50:03 PM

balki1867: I actually follow the NHL way more closely than the NBA but this is kind of stupid. In terms of taking a hit you have to be way tougher to play in the NHL, but very few of those guys could handle running up and down the court at an NBA pace for 48 minutes 82+ times a year.

Different sports require different skillsets; shocking, I know.

// Still can't do anything about the flopping in the NBA


You ever played hockey? It's exhausting. There's a reason you play for 1 minute before changing. Seriously, join a pickup league and try playing for more than a few minutes.
 
2012-06-25 02:50:50 PM

IAmRight: NutznGum: Hockey isn't as harsh on the legs? This is from one blocked shot, some players will block 4 or 5 in a game.

Holy sh*t you people are really, genuinely stupid, aren't you? When an activity is described as "hard on your back" do you think that's referring to how many times something hits you in the back?

NutznGum: Wouldn't 'taking more abuse in a game' kind of be the definition of toughness? How are you defining it?

You are saying the players are tougher. No, the sport is "tougher." Not the players.

boozehat: Hockey players on the other hand laugh, and twat their opinions at basket ball players.

And then fall to the ice when a stick gets anywhere near their head level. Or jump to the ice anytime a stick gets near their skates when they f*ck up a shot.


Yeah Hockey has absolutely no lasting impact on your body. You're right, guy like Orr with irreparable knee and back problems are just faking it.

Chris Bosh missed the bulk of the Heat's playoff run because of an "abdominal strain." Which is a minor tear in a stomach muscle and takes 2-4 weeks to heal.

Anton Volchenkov got a stick to the face by Mike Richards in the Stanley Cup finals, received a dozen stitches between shifts and was back on the bench and played the remainder of the game and series.

Rob Scuderi had his nose broken and lacerated because of a bodycheck into the glass in game 6, returned to finish it and won the cup.

Darren Helm had surgery prior to the playoffs for a laceration to his forearm, still played for Detroit in the playoffs.

Hal Gill played two rounds for the Nashville Predators in the 2012 playoffs with a fractured Tibia, he has since had a plate installed on it in the off season.

Though not in the playoffs, Olli Jokinen had a similar injury to Chris Bosh (that actually required surgery to fix) and played it out until the end of the regular season.

Brandon Prust played with a broken finger for the remainder of the 2nd series, after breaking it on someone's face, and through the entirety of the 3rd series.

Marion Gaborik, played the entirety of the playoffs with a torn labrum in his shoulder.

Adrian Aucoin and Shane Doan played with undisclosed groin and hip injuries through to the final game of the Western Conference Finals.

Kris Letang played in the playoffs for the Penguins with an undisclosed hip injury.

Brent Burns had surgery for a hernia following San Jose's playoff run.

Dustin Penner won a Stanley cup with an undisclosed wrist injury.

Many others played with old injuries from the regular season or from games in previous series...they are often never publicized because opponents may take advantage of it.

Lebron James couldn't play through a cramp in the last 4 minutes of a runaway victory in the final game of the NBA Playoffs.

Yeah, basketball players are tough.
 
2012-06-25 02:51:46 PM
The last thing I have on the subject:

Hockey players are willing to put themselves into high injury risk situations just to win. This may be in part to the padding they wear but even in full gear, you aren't going to find *ME* blocking shots anytime soon! I see a slap shot coming, I get the fark out of the way.

/not paid to play
 
2012-06-25 02:53:25 PM

Gunderson: Don't the WBA players play through their cramps on a monthly basis?


A+
 
2012-06-25 02:55:11 PM

IAmRight: NutznGum: Wouldn't the the tougher sport to play be played by tougher athletes, can you see how one might come to that conclusion?

You could say that if, say, the NHL were the most popular league in the world and the threshold for getting in was that you had to be x amount of tough to be in the league, and the NBA was where players who couldn't handle the NHL went.

Currently, however, the NBA is far more popular than the NHL and sources its players from everyone in the world. Hockey players are chosen from a very narrow swath of the population that can afford to play the sport at a young age. They require two completely different skillsets that have pretty much nothing to do with one another. Only a moron would actually think that someone is tougher because of the sport that they play.

It's like saying someone's tougher than someone else because they work a blue-collar job vs becoming an office manager - gee, the guy should turn down the promotion to the job where you actually get paid and are a leader because it's "not as tough"? There are tough people and soft people in all professions.


This has nothing to do with the argument at hand. Hockey is a tougher sport, you said so yourself, ergo the players are tougher. Who cares if there's a smaller sample size or not.

Its apples to oranges anyway. I'm not saying basketball isn't tough, Dennis Rodman's feet can speak to that. But hockey players routinely play through injuries that would have most other athletes on the bench for extended periods of time. Just look at the list of hockey players who have off-season surgery to fix an injury they played through all year.
 
2012-06-25 02:56:37 PM

SultanofSchwing: Though not in the playoffs, Olli Jokinen had a similar injury to Chris Bosh (that actually required surgery to fix) and played it out until the end of the regular season.


How many times are hockey players required to lift their hands above their heads and pull them down with force in a hockey game? Approximately never?

Basketball players have to do it dozens of times per game.

Again, it's like you don't understand the concept of different sports requiring different athletic maneuvers, with different roster restrictions, and how this would affect "toughness" perceptions.

You just want to keep slobbing hockey's collective knob. So if it's so important to you, you just keep believing it, rather than having the intelligence to acknowledge a system's effect on how things appear.

You certainly are tough, continuing to post despite severe brain damage. Congrats.
 
2012-06-25 02:57:33 PM

NutznGum: Hockey is a tougher sport, you said so yourself, ergo the players are tougher


Man, you suck at logic.
 
2012-06-25 02:58:37 PM
Heh. This is a contact sport.
 
2012-06-25 02:58:40 PM

NutznGum: Its apples to oranges anyway. I'm not saying basketball isn't tough, Dennis Rodman's feet can speak to that. But hockey players routinely play through injuries that would have most other athletes on the bench for extended periods of time. Just look at the list of hockey players who have off-season surgery to fix an injury they played through all year.


Which, if taken through the natural course of logic, leads to the inevitable conclusion that no hockey fan or FARKer would dare admit: WWE wrestlers, with their 200+ performances per year, year-round work schedule, total inability to take off any time for injuries (lest they lose their sport), and willingness to continue performing after suffering crippling injuries (See: Triple H being on the receiving end of the Walls of Jericho after tearing his quad), are tougher than all of them. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE NARRATIVE, DO WE?
 
2012-06-25 03:00:15 PM

NutznGum: Its apples to oranges anyway.


EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THE WHOLE TIME. EVERY ONE OF YOUR ARGUMENTS IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE YOU'RE F*CKING COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES.
 
2012-06-25 03:01:35 PM

IAmRight: SultanofSchwing: Though not in the playoffs, Olli Jokinen had a similar injury to Chris Bosh (that actually required surgery to fix) and played it out until the end of the regular season.

How many times are hockey players required to lift their hands above their heads and pull them down with force in a hockey game? Approximately never?

Basketball players have to do it dozens of times per game.

Again, it's like you don't understand the concept of different sports requiring different athletic maneuvers, with different roster restrictions, and how this would affect "toughness" perceptions.

You just want to keep slobbing hockey's collective knob. So if it's so important to you, you just keep believing it, rather than having the intelligence to acknowledge a system's effect on how things appear.

You certainly are tough, continuing to post despite severe brain damage. Congrats.


Again, you've proven that you have absolutely zero experience playing the sport. It's astonishing that you honestly think an abdominal injury is not a detriment to a hockey player.

you don't understand the concept of different sports requiring different athletic maneuvers

That's funny.

Just because you seem unclear on what the sport involves I'm going to actually help you out.

ak1.ostkcdn.com

This is not an accurate representation of the game of Hockey.
 
2012-06-25 03:01:46 PM

IAmRight: NutznGum: Hockey is a tougher sport, you said so yourself, ergo the players are tougher

Man, you suck at logic.


Why is it illogical then, oh enlightened one?
 
2012-06-25 03:03:16 PM

IAmRight: NutznGum: Its apples to oranges anyway.

EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THE WHOLE TIME. EVERY ONE OF YOUR ARGUMENTS IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE YOU'RE F*CKING COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES.


This is Fark, if we didn't compare apples and oranges, we'd all be working instead.

U mad, bro?

/seriously, why the rage?
 
2012-06-25 03:05:14 PM

IAmRight: SultanofSchwing: Though not in the playoffs, Olli Jokinen had a similar injury to Chris Bosh (that actually required surgery to fix) and played it out until the end of the regular season.

How many times are hockey players required to lift their hands above their heads and pull them down with force in a hockey game? Approximately never?

Basketball players have to do it dozens of times per game.

You certainly are tough, continuing to post despite severe brain damage. Congrats.


I kind of agree here; abdominal strain/tears would cause people to not play in either sport as they are both dependent on those muscles. Or at least severely reduce their playing time or usable worth to the goal of the team. There are degrees to injuries too. Some can be played through, some can't.
 
2012-06-25 03:06:03 PM

Mike_LowELL: NutznGum: Its apples to oranges anyway. I'm not saying basketball isn't tough, Dennis Rodman's feet can speak to that. But hockey players routinely play through injuries that would have most other athletes on the bench for extended periods of time. Just look at the list of hockey players who have off-season surgery to fix an injury they played through all year.

Which, if taken through the natural course of logic, leads to the inevitable conclusion that no hockey fan or FARKer would dare admit: WWE wrestlers, with their 200+ performances per year, year-round work schedule, total inability to take off any time for injuries (lest they lose their sport), and willingness to continue performing after suffering crippling injuries (See: Triple H being on the receiving end of the Walls of Jericho after tearing his quad), are tougher than all of them. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE NARRATIVE, DO WE?


I don't have a problem with that. Its not really a 'sport' per se, but it takes incredibly tough athletes to do it. I tip my cap to them.
 
2012-06-25 03:08:06 PM
On a side note, who is Lebron James?
 
2012-06-25 03:10:07 PM

debbie_does_dishes: IAmRight: SultanofSchwing: Though not in the playoffs, Olli Jokinen had a similar injury to Chris Bosh (that actually required surgery to fix) and played it out until the end of the regular season.

How many times are hockey players required to lift their hands above their heads and pull them down with force in a hockey game? Approximately never?

Basketball players have to do it dozens of times per game.

You certainly are tough, continuing to post despite severe brain damage. Congrats.

I kind of agree here; abdominal strain/tears would cause people to not play in either sport as they are both dependent on those muscles. Or at least severely reduce their playing time or usable worth to the goal of the team. There are degrees to injuries too. Some can be played through, some can't.


Most of your mobility when skating comes from the abdominal muscles, rotation etc. Not to mention the torsion your body experiences on a check. Degrees indeed, though one would assume an injury that required eventual surgery in the offseason would be quite severe. On top of that we're still only focusing on one out of 11 examples I posted...which is even then only a sample of the dozens more out there that haven't been specifically disclosed and likely won't be.
 
2012-06-25 03:10:20 PM

WhiskeySticks: On a side note, who is Lebron James?


Someone the whole city of Cleveland would like to see set on fire and stomped on like a flaming bag of poop?
 
2012-06-25 03:10:50 PM

WhiskeySticks: Lebron James


Here you go. LMGTFY Link
 
2012-06-25 03:11:20 PM
...I'm just glad I like both sports.
 
2012-06-25 03:12:55 PM

robsul82: ...I'm just glad I like both sports.


Seriously. Holy fark.
 
2012-06-25 03:13:21 PM

NutznGum: I don't have a problem with that. Its not really a 'sport' per se, but it takes incredibly tough athletes to do it. I tip my cap to them.


I'm not saying you do, but that's a pill that the people who get emotionally invested in this topic would never, ever, ever want to swallow. (Likewise, you'll also never hear mixed martial arts fans discuss that one of the reasons Kurt Angle wanted to take up the sport is that it would be less wear and tear on his body than professional wrestling.) The matter of "toughness" in sports is stupid, anyway, because it can't be quantified. You can, to some degree, quantify the things that me and IAmRight have already listed: Economic incentive, "buy-in" (how much money you need to play and participate in the sport), available roster slots, etc.

WhiskeySticks: On a side note, who is Lebron James?


The most physically-gifted athlete on the planet.
 
2012-06-25 03:13:26 PM
Hey hey hey! Everyone chill out.

Hockey people, I know that flopping is a bit of an issue in basketball, but lets be real about it, at least these guys score and jump around and sometimes even play defense! So lets do like we're supposed to do, and save our hate for the damn soccer pussies, not the NBA people.
 
2012-06-25 03:16:45 PM

Mike_LowELL:
The most physically-gifted athlete on the planet.


16"?
 
2012-06-25 03:17:24 PM

SultanofSchwing: On top of that we're still only focusing on one out of 11 examples I posted...which is even then only a sample of the dozens more out there that haven't been specifically disclosed and likely won't be.


Which surely means that there are dozens in the NHL but no one went through injuries in the NBA.

Like Ray Allen (ankle surgery after the season after playing the playoffs) or Paul Pierce (played through an MCL sprain) or Mikael Pietrus (knee surgery after the season after playing the playoffs) or Mike Miller (back issues, maybe surgery)...and that's off the top of my head and because I really only followed the Eastern Conference playoffs this year.

I mean, if there were examples of guys playing through injuries in the NBA, you might feel stupid here.

Cramps are cramps - they're not a severe injury, but you really can't f*cking play through them, no matter who you are.
 
2012-06-25 03:17:50 PM

Mike_LowELL:
The most physically-gifted athlete on the planet.


What gifted looks like.
 
2012-06-25 03:18:47 PM

Mike_LowELL: NutznGum: I don't have a problem with that. Its not really a 'sport' per se, but it takes incredibly tough athletes to do it. I tip my cap to them.

I'm not saying you do, but that's a pill that the people who get emotionally invested in this topic would never, ever, ever want to swallow. (Likewise, you'll also never hear mixed martial arts fans discuss that one of the reasons Kurt Angle wanted to take up the sport is that it would be less wear and tear on his body than professional wrestling.) The matter of "toughness" in sports is stupid, anyway, because it can't be quantified. You can, to some degree, quantify the things that me and IAmRight have already listed: Economic incentive, "buy-in" (how much money you need to play and participate in the sport), available roster slots, etc.

WhiskeySticks: On a side note, who is Lebron James?

The most physically-gifted athlete on the planet.


We're having the sports equivalent of the 'who win in a fight between Batman and the Hulk or a silverback gorilla and a tiger' discussion. Its fun (well, its started off that way) but pointless. A nice metaphor for Fark.
 
2012-06-25 03:19:33 PM

Mike_LowELL: NutznGum: I don't have a problem with that. Its not really a 'sport' per se, but it takes incredibly tough athletes to do it. I tip my cap to them.

I'm not saying you do, but that's a pill that the people who get emotionally invested in this topic would never, ever, ever want to swallow. (Likewise, you'll also never hear mixed martial arts fans discuss that one of the reasons Kurt Angle wanted to take up the sport is that it would be less wear and tear on his body than professional wrestling.) The matter of "toughness" in sports is stupid, anyway, because it can't be quantified. You can, to some degree, quantify the things that me and IAmRight have already listed: Economic incentive, "buy-in" (how much money you need to play and participate in the sport), available roster slots, etc.

WhiskeySticks: On a side note, who is Lebron James?

The most physically-gifted athlete on the planet.


are you just classifying Chalmers as a deity now then?
 
2012-06-25 03:19:41 PM

IAmRight:
I mean, if there were examples of guys playing through injuries in the NBA, you might feel stupid here.


There aren't any examples of that in this thread! Take your trolling elsewhere, sir!
 
2012-06-25 03:22:16 PM

inclemency: are you just classifying Chalmers as a deity now then?


It's after the season, he only graces us with his presence during the NBA season.
 
2012-06-25 03:23:35 PM

debbie_does_dishes: Also, Sid being a little biatch in the playoffs had more to do with the opponent being the Flyers than anything. He should be better than that and he knows it.

/still disgusted by that performance


When he flicked the glove away from Voracek I literally said out loud "Sid, stop being a little biatch." Then again, it's always funny to watch Captain Canada sit in the penalty box and call Claude Giroux a farking pussy. The best part of "24/7" for me was Sid losing it with the ref and screaming "FARK OFF, THAT'S FARKING SHIAT!" so loudly his voice cracked.
 
2012-06-25 03:24:14 PM
Mike_LowELL

The most physically-gifted athlete on the planet.

No, he's not. Not even close. Great basket ball player? Sure.

/holy f*cking hyperbole, batman
 
2012-06-25 03:24:28 PM

SultanofSchwing: Mike_LowELL:
The most physically-gifted athlete on the planet.

What gifted looks like.


There's some stiff competition for that award:

Link
 
2012-06-25 03:25:46 PM

Marisyana: debbie_does_dishes: Also, Sid being a little biatch in the playoffs had more to do with the opponent being the Flyers than anything. He should be better than that and he knows it.

/still disgusted by that performance

When he flicked the glove away from Voracek I literally said out loud "Sid, stop being a little biatch." .


That was actually funny, classic hockey trolling. The little tantrum in the locker rooms saying shiat like "...because we don't like them" was so childish. Too much time away form the game with the head injuries, he needs to come back to reality and stop being a biatch.
 
2012-06-25 03:27:07 PM

SultanofSchwing: What gifted looks like.


LeBron James jumped over a dude and scored. This doesn't happen in hockey ever. Therefore, basketball players are tougher. Your argument is invalid.

NutznGum: We're having the sports equivalent of the 'who win in a fight between Batman and the Hulk or a silverback gorilla and a tiger' discussion. Its fun (well, its started off that way) but pointless. A nice metaphor for Fark.


Pretty much.

IAmRight: inclemency: are you just classifying Chalmers as a deity now then?

It's after the season, he only graces us with his presence during the NBA season.


This. Once the season is over, he heads back to his home planet, allowing mortals to fight aimlessly over their human athletic accomplishments.
 
2012-06-25 03:28:41 PM

New Age Redneck: Mike_LowELL

The most physically-gifted athlete on the planet.

No, he's not. Not even close. Great basket ball player? Sure.

/holy f*cking hyperbole, batman


Not familiar with his Mike's work, are you?

The man is a master of the craft.
 
2012-06-25 03:29:03 PM

IAmRight: SultanofSchwing: On top of that we're still only focusing on one out of 11 examples I posted...which is even then only a sample of the dozens more out there that haven't been specifically disclosed and likely won't be.

Which surely means that there are dozens in the NHL but no one went through injuries in the NBA.

Like Ray Allen (ankle surgery after the season after playing the playoffs) or Paul Pierce (played through an MCL sprain) or Mikael Pietrus (knee surgery after the season after playing the playoffs) or Mike Miller (back issues, maybe surgery)...and that's off the top of my head and because I really only followed the Eastern Conference playoffs this year.

I mean, if there were examples of guys playing through injuries in the NBA, you might feel stupid here.

Cramps are cramps - they're not a severe injury, but you really can't f*cking play through them, no matter who you are.


Ray Allen, didn't play 15 of the final 20 regular season games and 2 playoffs games.
Paul Pierce, barely played anyway and depending on the grade, MCL sprain isn't that bad.
Mickael Pietrus... Said Pietrus back on May 14: "(The knee) is bothering me a little bit, but I told you guys, I'm going to keep going. It's something I'll worry about getting done in the summertime. (McKeon) told me he'd take a look at it in the summer. It's not a big problem -- it's something that can be resolved in 15 minutes."
I'll concede Mike Miller, but he just needs to retire.

I do find it funny how you say I'm gobbling the "collective hockey knob"...how's the NBA/Lebron Knob tasting?
 
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