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2012-06-25 11:29:48 AM

IAmRight: js34603: /Hockey players obviously tougher than basketball players

I dunno about that - it's not like you can say "oh, they wouldn't play through getting hit with a puck"...if a basketball player gets hit with a puck in the middle of a game, there's something seriously wrong. There's a lot of physicality in basketball.


There is physicality in basketball. Lot of jostling for position and bumping into each other while driving or going for rebounds. But until it is legal in basketball to crush your opponent into a wall or simply lay him out in the middle of the court, or to actually engage in a fist fight withouth being suspended I think hockey players are tougher.

Not that basketball players are not tough, just that sport isn't as physical as hockey.
 
2012-06-25 11:30:14 AM

facisto: toddism: i agree with them. Watch last year when Stamkos takes a puck to the face, skates off on his own and comes back to finish the game with gauze stuffed in his nose. Then, watch a bball game. These guys fall down and act like they are in a WWE fight. Useless sport.

//hockey - it aint for wusses.

I think it was two years ago when Mike Knuble took a slapshot to the face, got his jaw wired shut in intermission and then finished the game. I think they showed him getting it done or getting it removed in the winter classic 24/7 of that year.

Its also not an uncommon site to see a hockey player get hit in the face with a puck, pull out his broken tooth and keep playing. Those guys are tough.


Hockey, so easy you can play with your jaw wired shut.
 
2012-06-25 11:30:36 AM
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2012-06-25 11:32:10 AM

meanmutton: Basketball players are unnaturally tall and their bodies break down earlier. Where did you get the idea that it had anything to do with conditioning?


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2012-06-25 11:33:26 AM
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New Age Redneck: Then there are loggers, farmers, fishermen, roughnecks, miners, Chinese kids chained to tables making your running shoes, etc... who are thinking, "all of you f*ckers get paid way too much money to play children's games".....

I know it's not exactly fair but until the work of one logger generates as much revenue as the work of one professional athlete, that's a meaningless point.


Let's see...food, clothing, shelter versus entertainment. Yeah, you're so right...silly me...so I guess you can eat money?
 
2012-06-25 11:37:23 AM
3, 4 times a game you'll see a stick come up near the face of a hockey player and their head flies back and stick goes flying and gloves go flying as the player grabs his face and crumples to the floor trying to draw a penalty.

3 out of 4 times the guy barely got hit and has no evidence om his face of any contact.
 
2012-06-25 11:40:36 AM

New Age Redneck: FreakinB

New Age Redneck: Then there are loggers, farmers, fishermen, roughnecks, miners, Chinese kids chained to tables making your running shoes, etc... who are thinking, "all of you f*ckers get paid way too much money to play children's games".....

I know it's not exactly fair but until the work of one logger generates as much revenue as the work of one professional athlete, that's a meaningless point.

Let's see...food, clothing, shelter versus entertainment. Yeah, you're so right...silly me...so I guess you can eat money?


I'm not saying it's necessarily the way it *should* be, just that the way that it *is*. Also, there are far more people qualified to be a logger/farmer/fisherman/etc. than there are people qualified to be a professional athlete.

Unless you can wave a magic wand and change the supply and demand, and/or the entertainment preferences of society at large, then complaints about how much money athletes make will remain useless platitudes.
 
2012-06-25 11:41:27 AM

Cookbook's Anarchist: Also, are we not going to discuss the goalies that have to maintain flexibility and endure cramping positions especially while defending a goal while sometimes not being able to see the object coming at them at 90 miles an hour?


The ones that stand around for 80-90% of the game and are covered from head to foot in padding? You're going to say that they're tougher? Okay.

I guess hockey fans really need to convince themselves of things like this because they have no sense of self-worth or toughness of their own.

Cookbook's Anarchist: Proper stretching and hydration ensures that cramping should not happen in a game


Unfortunately, players don't get to have access to water/Gatorade every 40 seconds or so like an NHL player does.

js34603: But until it is legal in basketball to crush your opponent into a wall or simply lay him out in the middle of the court, or to actually engage in a fist fight withouth being suspended I think hockey players are tougher.


So NHL players are tougher because there are rules or structural differences in the way the sport is set up (no walls) that prohibit NBA players from doing anything that NHL players are allowed to do. That makes sense.
 
2012-06-25 11:49:36 AM

New Age Redneck: Then there are loggers, farmers, fishermen, roughnecks, miners, Chinese kids chained to tables making your running shoes, etc... who are thinking, "all of you f*ckers get paid way too much money to play children's games".....


Now, look at them yo-yos,
that's the way you do it,
you dribble a ball in the N-B-A
 
2012-06-25 11:56:22 AM

New Age Redneck: FreakinB

New Age Redneck: Then there are loggers, farmers, fishermen, roughnecks, miners, Chinese kids chained to tables making your running shoes, etc... who are thinking, "all of you f*ckers get paid way too much money to play children's games".....

I know it's not exactly fair but until the work of one logger generates as much revenue as the work of one professional athlete, that's a meaningless point.

Let's see...food, clothing, shelter versus entertainment. Yeah, you're so right...silly me...so I guess you can eat money?


Do you not understand capitalism and supply and demand? I hate how much they get paid as much as the next person, but seriously, they make a lot of money for a lot of people and they are rewarded (in context) properly for it.

And a lot of people don't know how much effort it takes to get to that level. Yeah, some of them are dumb as rocks, but they knew what their skills were so they developed them. It takes a lot of work and destroys the body slowly and they don't usually work into their 40s. It's a tough gig.
 
2012-06-25 12:12:21 PM
Pretty much across the board, people who use the word "hater" casually are complete assholes.
 
2012-06-25 12:13:03 PM
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New Age Redneck: FreakinB

New Age Redneck: Then there are loggers, farmers, fishermen, roughnecks, miners, Chinese kids chained to tables making your running shoes, etc... who are thinking, "all of you f*ckers get paid way too much money to play children's games".....

I know it's not exactly fair but until the work of one logger generates as much revenue as the work of one professional athlete, that's a meaningless point.

Let's see...food, clothing, shelter versus entertainment. Yeah, you're so right...silly me...so I guess you can eat money?

Do you not understand capitalism and supply and demand? I hate how much they get paid as much as the next person, but seriously, they make a lot of money for a lot of people and they are rewarded (in context) properly for it.

And a lot of people don't know how much effort it takes to get to that level. Yeah, some of them are dumb as rocks, but they knew what their skills were so they developed them. It takes a lot of work and destroys the body slowly and they don't usually work into their 40s. It's a tough gig.


My point is that some pro athlete whining about a cramp is pathetic. I've seen blue collar folks work through way worse for way less.....

I disagree that millions of dollars a year is reasonable payment for any athlete.
 
2012-06-25 12:16:40 PM

New Age Redneck: I've seen blue collar folks work through way worse for way less.....


Tons of blue collar folks also milk workers compensation benefits and disability checks with no injury at all.

Not to mention those blue collar folks aren't pushing their bodies to the limits like most pro atheltes are doing every day.
 
2012-06-25 12:18:05 PM

New Age Redneck: My point is that some pro athlete whining about a cramp is pathetic. I've seen blue collar folks work through way worse for way less.....

I disagree that millions of dollars a year is reasonable payment for any athlete.


You're hurting your team if you can't move your legs right, and if you have quad cramps you can't move your legs right.

Would you rather then owners make the extra millions than the players? Those guys aren't exactly hurting, either.
 
2012-06-25 12:22:39 PM
Seriously, who are these people that are going through cramps? You can play through a broken leg - you can't play through a cramp. When your job requires you to be in full control of all your movements, your leg randomly deciding to do what it wants to do means you're f*cked until the cramps go away.

It was really stupid for people to act like cramps would carry over two days. But acting like you can play through cramping legs in a sport where you're required to use your legs repetitively and explosively is pants-on-head retarded. Which I suppose is why I shouldn't be surprised that a lot of hockey fans seem not to understand it.
 
2012-06-25 12:24:55 PM

you have pee hands: Would you rather then owners make the extra millions than the players? Those guys aren't exactly hurting, either.


And hey, if you want to watch players that don't get paid, you can watch a local pickup game at the rec league.
 
2012-06-25 12:33:28 PM

IAmRight: Seriously, who are these people that are going through cramps? You can play through a broken leg - you can't play through a cramp. When your job requires you to be in full control of all your movements, your leg randomly deciding to do what it wants to do means you're f*cked until the cramps go away.

It was really stupid for people to act like cramps would carry over two days. But acting like you can play through cramping legs in a sport where you're required to use your legs repetitively and explosively is pants-on-head retarded. Which I suppose is why I shouldn't be surprised that a lot of hockey fans seem not to understand it.


Shouldn't you be at the Heat victory parade today with your lips applied to Lebron's shlong?
 
2012-06-25 12:39:16 PM

fatalvenom: Shouldn't you be at the Heat victory parade today with your lips applied to Lebron's shlong?


We have enough people offering their services for that. Someone however should be offering to duct tape Mike Miller back together.
 
2012-06-25 12:39:25 PM

Gunderson: Don't the WBA players play through their cramps on a monthly basis?


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2012-06-25 12:40:07 PM
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2012-06-25 12:40:38 PM

ongbok: toddism: i agree with them. Watch last year when Stamkos takes a puck to the face, skates off on his own and comes back to finish the game with gauze stuffed in his nose. Then, watch a bball game. These guys fall down and act like they are in a WWE fight. Useless sport.

//hockey - it aint for wusses.

You are right. No NBA player, especially a star player, has ever broken his nose durring a game and finished the game.


Wow, an elbow bonk to the face is almost exactly the same as a point blank slapshot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucHkWqV_yis&feature=player_embedded.
 
2012-06-25 12:44:44 PM

fatalvenom: Shouldn't you be at the Heat victory parade today with your lips applied to Lebron's shlong?


What's with your fixation with his dick? You constantly bring it into every conversation.
 
2012-06-25 12:45:24 PM

IAmRight: It was really stupid for people to act like cramps would carry over two days. But acting like you can play through cramping legs in a sport where you're required to use your legs repetitively and explosively is pants-on-head retarded. Which I suppose is why I shouldn't be surprised that a lot of hockey fans seem not to understand it.


I was wondering a bit what the recovery time would be like. When I get cramps, I'm prone to getting cramps the same place for a couple days if I push because the muscle is still sore as hell. Of course, I'm not a pro athlete and I don't have a masseuse on call and access to a pro medical staff. I knew he'd be able to play, but I wasn't sure if he'd be able to play 45 minutes at the same frantic pace as normal, especially on defense.
 
2012-06-25 12:47:44 PM
What's funniest is that probably everyone in here who says that NHL players are super tough and NBA players are wusses would walk across the street to get out of the way of an NBA player but wouldn't be scared of an NHLer at all.
 
2012-06-25 12:49:24 PM

you have pee hands: but I wasn't sure if he'd be able to play 45 minutes at the same frantic pace as normal, especially on defense.


Yeah, you're more likely to get 'em and I could see a potential mental issue in that he might worry about it (though that's probably unlikely in a potential championship-clinching game for his first title ever). But some media outlets were acting as though there were any chance he wouldn't play or something like that, which is ridiculous.
 
2012-06-25 12:49:43 PM

R66YRobo: Chelios was a bit of a freak though. I remember reading stories of professional athletes joining him in the off-season to train when he was in his 40's and being destroyed by his regimen.


It's because of all the coke.
 
2012-06-25 12:53:30 PM
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2012-06-25 12:53:32 PM

IAmRight: What's funniest is that probably everyone in here who says that NHL players are super tough and NBA players are wusses would walk across the street to get out of the way of an NBA player but wouldn't be scared of an NHLer at all.


Hockey pros are generally nice and approachable off the ice (in part because they're less heavily marketed and recognizable in most social settings, and therefore less jaded about being a "celebrity"), so you're probably right, but it has less to do with physical intimidation.
 
2012-06-25 12:54:57 PM

IAmRight: What's funniest is that probably everyone in here who says that NHL players are super tough and NBA players are wusses would walk across the street to get out of the way of an NBA player but wouldn't be scared of an NHLer at all.


Guessing that's because most are conditioned to fear large black men.
 
2012-06-25 12:55:03 PM

IAmRight: What's funniest is that probably everyone in here who says that NHL players are super tough and NBA players are wusses would walk across the street to get out of the way of an NBA player but wouldn't be scared of an NHLer at all.


Very true... I don't see the average hockey player easily taking a charge from LeBron.

Dion Phaneuf is considered a big hitter, he's 6'3, 215lb.

Lebron is 6'8, 250 and is very fast.
 
2012-06-25 12:55:54 PM

you have pee hands: Would you rather then owners make the extra millions than the players? Those guys aren't exactly hurting, either.


This. Of course professional athletes get paid too much, but if they all topped out at $100k a year from now on, the owners would just pocket a few billion more. Never in a million years would ticket prices go down or that savings otherwise be passed on to the consumer.
 
2012-06-25 12:59:57 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: Never in a million years would ticket prices go down or that savings otherwise be passed on to the consumer.


I feel like they would make it a little cheaper, just so they're protected in case salaries went up again, fans remember that they lowered the price when the players took less and so their claims of "we'll have to raise prices" will hit a more solidly.

They won't lower them nearly as much as they're saving, but if you lower prices $1, you can say you lowered 'em. Sure, some people on the internet will call you out, but you and the media are so intertwined that they're not going to run the actual information.
 
2012-06-25 01:02:05 PM

WhiskeySticks: Guessing that's because most are conditioned to fear large black men.


Sir Charles?

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2012-06-25 01:03:03 PM
i hope these guys never see a soccer game. twitter might just explode the internet.
 
2012-06-25 01:05:39 PM

ongbok: toddism: i agree with them. Watch last year when Stamkos takes a puck to the face, skates off on his own and comes back to finish the game with gauze stuffed in his nose. Then, watch a bball game. These guys fall down and act like they are in a WWE fight. Useless sport.

//hockey - it aint for wusses.

You are right. No NBA player, especially a star player, has ever broken his nose durring a game and finished the game.


Once.
 
2012-06-25 01:10:07 PM

MugzyBrown: IAmRight: What's funniest is that probably everyone in here who says that NHL players are super tough and NBA players are wusses would walk across the street to get out of the way of an NBA player but wouldn't be scared of an NHLer at all.

Very true... I don't see the average hockey player easily taking a charge from LeBron.

Dion Phaneuf is considered a big hitter, he's 6'3, 215lb.

Lebron is 6'8, 250 and is very fast.


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2012-06-25 01:11:40 PM
'Baun is remembered for his performance in game six of the 1963-64 NHL season Stanley Cup finals against the Detroit Red Wings. On April 23, 1964, having broken his leg earlier in the game, he returned in overtime and scored the game winning goal.'
 
2012-06-25 01:11:50 PM

rickythepenguin: Updated: Jun 20, 2012 8:55 PM

Source: New York Post
MIAMI -- Hockey players have taken to Twitter to fire a few slapshots at LeBron James, ripping into the Heat star about the leg cramps he suffered in Game 4 against the Thunder.


i've been noticing lately how Sports tab gets olllllllllllllld stories. i was saying just a couple of days ago, a story was posted about soemthing that happened in Game 2, the night I think Game 5 was being played. i think as an aggregator, the mindset would be to post stories on a general 24 hour time window, not something from 5 days ago.

ehhh. just my opinion.

/tomorrow: breaking news, Roger Clemens acquitted!


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2012-06-25 01:16:35 PM
NutznGum:
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1) Chara isn't really a big hitter, he's just big.
2) Chara's athletic abilities are more on par with Gheorghe Muresan than Lebron James.
 
2012-06-25 01:17:23 PM

NutznGum: MugzyBrown: IAmRight: What's funniest is that probably everyone in here who says that NHL players are super tough and NBA players are wusses would walk across the street to get out of the way of an NBA player but wouldn't be scared of an NHLer at all.

Very true... I don't see the average hockey player easily taking a charge from LeBron.

Dion Phaneuf is considered a big hitter, he's 6'3, 215lb.

Lebron is 6'8, 250 and is very fast.

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"Puny LeBron no match for Chara!!"
 
2012-06-25 01:21:47 PM

MugzyBrown: IAmRight: What's funniest is that probably everyone in here who says that NHL players are super tough and NBA players are wusses would walk across the street to get out of the way of an NBA player but wouldn't be scared of an NHLer at all.

Very true... I don't see the average hockey player easily taking a charge from LeBron.

Dion Phaneuf is considered a big hitter, he's 6'3, 215lb.

Lebron is 6'8, 250 and is very fast.


At 6'8" he would be upwards of 7' with skates on, also wearing another 30lbs of gear. It would make him quite unstable. Having a low center of gravity, combined with lower body strength is much more advantageous in terms of body checking than just height and mass. Also pretty certain Dion Phaneuf skates much better than Lebron.

An couple examples of this theory:

Stephen Gionta (5'7" 185lb) vs Colin Fraser (6'1" 193lb)

Steve Sullivan (5'8" 160lb) vs Brandon Dubinsky (6'1" 210lb) - not a crushing hit, but a hit
 
2012-06-25 01:23:04 PM
lolz look at the Americans fighting over two Canadian made sports
 
2012-06-25 01:23:06 PM

meanmutton: balki1867: I actually follow the NHL way more closely than the NBA but this is kind of stupid. In terms of taking a hit you have to be way tougher to play in the NHL, but very few of those guys could handle running up and down the court at an NBA pace for 48 minutes 82+ times a year.

Different sports require different skillsets; shocking, I know.

// Still can't do anything about the flopping in the NBA

Huh? They sprint-skate up and down the rink at an NHL pace for 60 minutes 82+ times a year.


You forgot the part where they get subbed out every 85 seconds cause they're winded.

/don't mind hockey
//their fans, however...
 
2012-06-25 01:23:31 PM

MugzyBrown: NutznGum:
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1) Chara isn't really a big hitter, he's just big.
2) Chara's athletic abilities are more on par with Gheorghe Muresan than Lebron James.


Pacioretty would disagree....

And so would Grabovski

Link
 
2012-06-25 01:27:28 PM
Chara vs. Koci

I LOVE this sequence. You can see Chara push Koci all the way through both lines along the boards, wrap him up and start landing blows. He took a solid punch, gets up and finshes Koci off..... and the announcer is just awesome:

Link
 
2012-06-25 01:27:38 PM

regindyn: meanmutton: balki1867: I actually follow the NHL way more closely than the NBA but this is kind of stupid. In terms of taking a hit you have to be way tougher to play in the NHL, but very few of those guys could handle running up and down the court at an NBA pace for 48 minutes 82+ times a year.

Different sports require different skillsets; shocking, I know.

// Still can't do anything about the flopping in the NBA

Huh? They sprint-skate up and down the rink at an NHL pace for 60 minutes 82+ times a year.

You forgot the part where they get subbed out every 85 seconds cause they're winded.

/don't mind hockey
//their fans, however...


You've obviously never played hockey before. Not that Basketball doesn't have it's physical demands, but there really is no comparison to skating at that level for any sustained amount of time.
 
2012-06-25 01:30:57 PM

SultanofSchwing: Also pretty certain Dion Phaneuf skates much better than Lebron.


Because skating on a rink is a much more likely place that the two would run into one another, not the 99% of time people are in public where they're wearing shoes and on normal ground.

Both sets of athletes would get clowned on the others' turf. And all these tough hitters would start looking pretty soft trying to take charges or if they got hit while trying to make a layup.
 
2012-06-25 01:31:25 PM

boozehat: MugzyBrown: NutznGum:
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1) Chara isn't really a big hitter, he's just big.
2) Chara's athletic abilities are more on par with Gheorghe Muresan than Lebron James.

Pacioretty would disagree....


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2012-06-25 01:31:27 PM

boozehat: Pacioretty would disagree....

And so would Grabovski


Chara uses leverage for his hits, not speed (since he can't really generate any) thus he's not a 'big hitter'.

Chara as an athlete vs lebron is a total joke. Probably the only athletic thing Chara could do better than lebron is ice skate and take a slap shot.

SultanofSchwing: At 6'8" he would be upwards of 7' with skates on, also wearing another 30lbs of gear. It would make him quite unstable. Having a low center of gravity, combined with lower body strength is much more advantageous in terms of body checking than just height and mass. Also pretty certain Dion Phaneuf skates much better than Lebron.


"Taking a charge" is a basketball term. They don't play basketball on skates.

My point is Dion Phaneuf standing in the lane would get bulldozed by Lebron.. if he had the nerve to stand there.
 
2012-06-25 01:33:00 PM
Lebron is a jackass though

ive seen him interupt a teammates interview, crowded the guy out and then start talking about himself
 
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