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2012-06-25 01:29:05 PM  

tortamus: but suggesting that humans can spontaneously sprout functioning sex organs of the opposite gender is completely unsupported.


Heh, but I didn't say that, did I? I said "start playing for the other team".

Were you responding to the wrong post? Because you seem to have invented entire sentences that didn't exist in my post. :)
 
2012-06-25 01:33:21 PM  

vonapathy: kiwimoogle84: Wendy's Chili: kiwimoogle84: I don't get along with most women

[businessrecordsblog.files.wordpress.com image 400x300]

Because I'd rather play poker and video games than shop for shoes. Because I think designer purses are a waste of money. Because I like cars and power tools. Because they whine about their men and I ask when they last gave them oral and they stare at me blankly.

Men are more interesting. Most women are petty and shallow. Pardon me for not fitting in your box.


Oh and elev8mel8r - green please :)

TL;DR

I was kinda fug and awkward growing up, therefore I trash talk my gender so I can earn dudepoints, now I have ALL TEH MENZ adoration and attention.

*eyeroll* gurrll, that schtick was played out in high school. Get over yourself, not all women are caricatures of Sex and the City, nor are you the first to be down with the bro's cause you were too chubby to make it on the cheer-leading squad.

/a well rounded, mature person knows how to maintain friendships with both genders


Um... You're very assuming. And I can GET ALONG with both genders, I said MOST if you recall. I can't be good, close friends with women who live for Coach purses and going clubbing. Sheesh.

I didn't gravitate towards male company because females shunned me, I did so because my interests and most men's are more aligned than myself and most women. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I don't bring it up to make a statement, it's just that I understand men and male sexuality and it reflects in my own life.
 
2012-06-25 01:34:30 PM  
There is so much I don't understand about TFA. What is a "bonkbuster"? They keep putting it in quotes like it's not a real word, but then they don't tell us what it means. I'm going to assume it has something to do with farting during sex.
 
2012-06-25 01:37:44 PM  

Magnanimous_J: vonapathy: kiwimoogle84: Wendy's Chili: kiwimoogle84: I don't get along with most women

[businessrecordsblog.files.wordpress.com image 400x300]

Because I'd rather play poker and video games than shop for shoes. Because I think designer purses are a waste of money. Because I like cars and power tools. Because they whine about their men and I ask when they last gave them oral and they stare at me blankly.

Men are more interesting. Most women are petty and shallow. Pardon me for not fitting in your box.


Oh and elev8mel8r - green please :)

TL;DR

I was kinda fug and awkward growing up, therefore I trash talk my gender so I can earn dudepoints, now I have ALL TEH MENZ adoration and attention.

*eyeroll* gurrll, that schtick was played out in high school. Get over yourself, not all women are caricatures of Sex and the City, nor are you the first to be down with the bro's cause you were too chubby to make it on the cheer-leading squad.

/a well rounded, mature person knows how to maintain friendships with both genders

A challenger approaches!

Seriously though, there are certain things a woman can say that instantly send up a red flag in my head.

1. I get along better with men than women.
2. I'm not crazy like most women.
3. I hate drama.
4. I give the best blowies.

These things almost always turn out to be comically false.

Also, how YOU doin?


That's fine if that's how you want to think. The reason it sends red flags to most men is because lots of chicks who say that happen to be sleeping with all the men they get along with. Happily taken here.

Why is that a flag anyway? Wouldn't you prefer a chick who knows how to parallel park and BBQ? Who would rather buy an Xbox than the latest season of Keeping Up with the Kardashians? I'm earnestly looking for an answer and quite puzzled here.
 
2012-06-25 01:38:36 PM  

kiwimoogle84: vonapathy: kiwimoogle84: Wendy's Chili: kiwimoogle84: I don't get along with most women

[businessrecordsblog.files.wordpress.com image 400x300]

Because I'd rather play poker and video games than shop for shoes. Because I think designer purses are a waste of money. Because I like cars and power tools. Because they whine about their men and I ask when they last gave them oral and they stare at me blankly.

Men are more interesting. Most women are petty and shallow. Pardon me for not fitting in your box.


Oh and elev8mel8r - green please :)

TL;DR

I was kinda fug and awkward growing up, therefore I trash talk my gender so I can earn dudepoints, now I have ALL TEH MENZ adoration and attention.

*eyeroll* gurrll, that schtick was played out in high school. Get over yourself, not all women are caricatures of Sex and the City, nor are you the first to be down with the bro's cause you were too chubby to make it on the cheer-leading squad.

/a well rounded, mature person knows how to maintain friendships with both genders

Um... You're very assuming. And I can GET ALONG with both genders, I said MOST if you recall. I can't be good, close friends with women who live for Coach purses and going clubbing. Sheesh.

I didn't gravitate towards male company because females shunned me, I did so because my interests and most men's are more aligned than myself and most women. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I don't bring it up to make a statement, it's just that I understand men and male sexuality and it reflects in my own life.


Can you ever get into a thread without getting flamed?
 
2012-06-25 01:42:10 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Why is that a flag anyway?


My theory is that since you challenge the rule 30 so hard, you get a lot of skeptics.
 
2012-06-25 01:44:27 PM  
I'd laugh, but there are women who are seriously like that.

/not your mom, of course
 
2012-06-25 01:48:33 PM  

TenJed_77: vonapathy: at me blankly.

Men are more interesting. Most women are petty and shallow. Pardon me for not fitting in your box.


Oh and elev8mel8r - green please :)

TL;DR

I was kinda fug and awkward growing up, therefore I trash talk my gender so I can earn dudepoints, now I have ALL TEH M
Wtf?
Seemed like a cool answer to me. Half my female cousins think the same way, acouple are lesbian, and the rest are normal mid-western woman(without the fat). Don't see the trash talk, if you want your SO to be the most girlie of girls, go for it. But don't knock what others might like just because you don't.
/large family
/way too many


Well, that's not quite what I'm getting at, since I'm a chick...and I'm into dudes...but beyond that, what kiwimoogle84 is sprouting is some pretty tired old BS. I should know, I said the same thing till I realized how dumb and insecure I sounded. Look, its one thing to have your preference for non-gender normative pastimes, but to go out of your way to insult women who are into things that you consider 'feminine' is so...weak, petty, and transparent.

It just smacks of revenge mean girl-ism with a dash of scoring dudepoints [look! look! I like beer, and sports! I'm so cool and not fussy like those other girls, validate meeee!!!!!]. Based on kiwimoogle84 username I assume shes the same age as me, I'd hope, that at our age, a person would have gotten past all the BS and would have reached a point of not giving a shiat about what other people do. Why the insults? Why call out culturally promoted stereotypes that hardly apply to a vast, vast majority of women?

At the end of the day, its just attention whoring with a bit of sour grapes thrown in. She could have just as easily expressed her preference for 'dudestuff' without shiatting on all the ladiez to curry favor with the bros.
 
2012-06-25 01:49:33 PM  

EngineerAU: It's a confusing world out there these days and the rules are poorly defined.


Eh. If she can't communicate what she wants early on, it's probably a bad sign for communicating what she wants later on, and thus the relationship's prospects.

Of course, some people learn to get better at the communication thing in time.
 
2012-06-25 01:57:43 PM  

vonapathy: TenJed_77: vonapathy: at me blankly.

Men are more interesting. Most women are petty and shallow. Pardon me for not fitting in your box.


Oh and elev8mel8r - green please :)

TL;DR

I was kinda fug and awkward growing up, therefore I trash talk my gender so I can earn dudepoints, now I have ALL TEH M
Wtf?
Seemed like a cool answer to me. Half my female cousins think the same way, acouple are lesbian, and the rest are normal mid-western woman(without the fat). Don't see the trash talk, if you want your SO to be the most girlie of girls, go for it. But don't knock what others might like just because you don't.
/large family
/way too many

Well, that's not quite what I'm getting at, since I'm a chick...and I'm into dudes...but beyond that, what kiwimoogle84 is sprouting is some pretty tired old BS. I should know, I said the same thing till I realized how dumb and insecure I sounded. Look, its one thing to have your preference for non-gender normative pastimes, but to go out of your way to insult women who are into things that you consider 'feminine' is so...weak, petty, and transparent.

It just smacks of revenge mean girl-ism with a dash of scoring dudepoints [look! look! I like beer, and sports! I'm so cool and not fussy like those other girls, validate meeee!!!!!]. Based on kiwimoogle84 username I assume shes the same age as me, I'd hope, that at our age, a person would have gotten past all the BS and would have reached a point of not giving a shiat about what other people do. Why the insults? Why call out culturally promoted stereotypes that hardly apply to a vast, vast majority of women?

At the end of the day, its just attention whoring with a bit of sour grapes thrown in. She could have just as easily expressed her preference for 'dudestuff' without shiatting on all the ladiez to curry favor with the bros.


I didn't mean to imply that I dislike women. That's not the case. My best friend is female- because we think along the same lines. And it's not to curry favor- don't really need the attention.

My point was that I understand what guys need- they're simple creatures. And it's not tired old shiat. Most guys in miserable relationships have sex withheld because the woman isn't happy or trying to punish him. The easiest way to make your man loving and attentive is to lavish him with sexual favors. Keep his beer cold, his balls drained, make him a sammich and put him to bed.

I apologize if I offended you. Didn't mean to hit a sensitive nerve. I'm just kinda dudely and I figure I'm in good company here with the other guys who play D&D and love old cars and have comic book tattoos. Or is this not where nerds gather? I'm confused.
 
2012-06-25 02:00:41 PM  

vonapathy: TenJed_77: vonapathy: at me blankly.

Men are more interesting. Most women are petty and shallow. Pardon me for not fitting in your box.


Oh and elev8mel8r - green please :)

TL;DR

I was kinda fug and awkward growing up, therefore I trash talk my gender so I can earn dudepoints, now I have ALL TEH M
Wtf?
Seemed like a cool answer to me. Half my female cousins think the same way, acouple are lesbian, and the rest are normal mid-western woman(without the fat). Don't see the trash talk, if you want your SO to be the most girlie of girls, go for it. But don't knock what others might like just because you don't.
/large family
/way too many

Well, that's not quite what I'm getting at, since I'm a chick...and I'm into dudes...but beyond that, what kiwimoogle84 is sprouting is some pretty tired old BS. I should know, I said the same thing till I realized how dumb and insecure I sounded. Look, its one thing to have your preference for non-gender normative pastimes, but to go out of your way to insult women who are into things that you consider 'feminine' is so...weak, petty, and transparent.

It just smacks of revenge mean girl-ism with a dash of scoring dudepoints [look! look! I like beer, and sports! I'm so cool and not fussy like those other girls, validate meeee!!!!!]. Based on kiwimoogle84 username I assume shes the same age as me, I'd hope, that at our age, a person would have gotten past all the BS and would have reached a point of not giving a shiat about what other people do. Why the insults? Why call out culturally promoted stereotypes that hardly apply to a vast, vast majority of women?

At the end of the day, its just attention whoring with a bit of sour grapes thrown in. She could have just as easily expressed her preference for 'dudestuff' without shiatting on all the ladiez to curry favor with the bros.


Oh and I never said those things were bad, btw. It's just not my style. You assumed I was being derogatory and I wasn't. All the girls who prefer those things- fine. More for you. It's just not my thing and I likely won't have much in common with those ladies who dig that sort of stuff.
 
2012-06-25 02:03:43 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Why is that a flag anyway? Wouldn't you prefer a chick who knows how to parallel park and BBQ? Who would rather buy an Xbox than the latest season of Keeping Up with the Kardashians? I'm earnestly looking for an answer and quite puzzled here.


First off, I know this is Fark and hyperbole is the norm here, but you do know that there is a middle ground between being a cool "One of the guys girls" and a Kardashian fan right?

I have a bunch of friends who have the "nerdy girls" and "Cool chicks who know how to do stuff" and that's great. Sometimes I would love it if my girl didn't bust my balls for playing video games so much. She watches some reality TV and it drives me nuts and she can be totally freaking helpless sometimes. But those friends with the "guy's girl," usually their houses look like shiat. They aren't very ambitious, and every single one has confided in my at one time or another that they wish their women were more feminine.

And before you roll out the "nerdy laid back gamer chick by day/ smoking hot, lingerie wearing sex goddess vixen by night" unicorn, I do believe that most women who have primarily guy friends didn't get the socialization with other women that teaches how to be seductive and sensual. (also, giggity)

As for me, it really boils down to the kind of man I want to be, and how I want my life to look. I've seen myself at my most depraved bachelor form, and its gross. I need a woman who has strengths that compliment my laundry list of weaknesses. Someone who can pick out a shirt for me, or demand I buy new sheets after I got a big bleach stain on the old ones, someone who will say something if I crack that 5th beer on a random Tuesday night. The last thing I need is a girl who is just as lazy and covered in Cheeto dust as I am, even if the though of a low-key chick can be appealing.

I look at the men I admire and want to be like; cultured, accomplished, wealthy, classy, stylish etc. In each case I just can't imagine them coming home from work, sweeping the McDonalds bags off the coffee table and joining their girl for a round of Call of Duty.
 
2012-06-25 02:05:54 PM  
Now kiss.
 
2012-06-25 02:08:43 PM  

Magnanimous_J: kiwimoogle84: Why is that a flag anyway? Wouldn't you prefer a chick who knows how to parallel park and BBQ? Who would rather buy an Xbox than the latest season of Keeping Up with the Kardashians? I'm earnestly looking for an answer and quite puzzled here.

First off, I know this is Fark and hyperbole is the norm here, but you do know that there is a middle ground between being a cool "One of the guys girls" and a Kardashian fan right?

I have a bunch of friends who have the "nerdy girls" and "Cool chicks who know how to do stuff" and that's great. Sometimes I would love it if my girl didn't bust my balls for playing video games so much. She watches some reality TV and it drives me nuts and she can be totally freaking helpless sometimes. But those friends with the "guy's girl," usually their houses look like shiat. They aren't very ambitious, and every single one has confided in my at one time or another that they wish their women were more feminine.

And before you roll out the "nerdy laid back gamer chick by day/ smoking hot, lingerie wearing sex goddess vixen by night" unicorn, I do believe that most women who have primarily guy friends didn't get the socialization with other women that teaches how to be seductive and sensual. (also, giggity)

As for me, it really boils down to the kind of man I want to be, and how I want my life to look. I've seen myself at my most depraved bachelor form, and its gross. I need a woman who has strengths that compliment my laundry list of weaknesses. Someone who can pick out a shirt for me, or demand I buy new sheets after I got a big bleach stain on the old ones, someone who will say something if I crack that 5th beer on a random Tuesday night. The last thing I need is a girl who is just as lazy and covered in Cheeto dust as I am, even if the though of a low-key chick can be appealing.

I look at the men I admire and want to be like; cultured, accomplished, wealthy, classy, stylish etc. In each case I just can't imagine them comi ...


Hence the likely reason why I'm taken by a good man- lord knows I probably don't deserve him. I'm not perfect, but I'm far from being covered in Cheetos dust. I AM a good middle ground I think- a decent cook, fastidious about laundry, etc. Just not terribly girly.
 
2012-06-25 02:12:16 PM  

Magnanimous_J: kiwimoogle84: Why is that a flag anyway? Wouldn't you prefer a chick who knows how to parallel park and BBQ? Who would rather buy an Xbox than the latest season of Keeping Up with the Kardashians? I'm earnestly looking for an answer and quite puzzled here.

First off, I know this is Fark and hyperbole is the norm here, but you do know that there is a middle ground between being a cool "One of the guys girls" and a Kardashian fan right?

I have a bunch of friends who have the "nerdy girls" and "Cool chicks who know how to do stuff" and that's great. Sometimes I would love it if my girl didn't bust my balls for playing video games so much. She watches some reality TV and it drives me nuts and she can be totally freaking helpless sometimes. But those friends with the "guy's girl," usually their houses look like shiat. They aren't very ambitious, and every single one has confided in my at one time or another that they wish their women were more feminine.

And before you roll out the "nerdy laid back gamer chick by day/ smoking hot, lingerie wearing sex goddess vixen by night" unicorn, I do believe that most women who have primarily guy friends didn't get the socialization with other women that teaches how to be seductive and sensual. (also, giggity)

As for me, it really boils down to the kind of man I want to be, and how I want my life to look. I've seen myself at my most depraved bachelor form, and its gross. I need a woman who has strengths that compliment my laundry list of weaknesses. Someone who can pick out a shirt for me, or demand I buy new sheets after I got a big bleach stain on the old ones, someone who will say something if I crack that 5th beer on a random Tuesday night. The last thing I need is a girl who is just as lazy and covered in Cheeto dust as I am, even if the though of a low-key chick can be appealing.

I look at the men I admire and want to be like; cultured, accomplished, wealthy, classy, stylish etc. In each case I just can't imagine them comi ...


Er...dude, it sounds like you want a Mom, not a GF.

You really should be doing stuff like that for yourself. It's your life, it up to you to make it what you want. You don't get a GF as an "assistant."
 
2012-06-25 02:15:49 PM  

KiplingKat872: Magnanimous_J: kiwimoogle84: Why is that a flag anyway? Wouldn't you prefer a chick who knows how to parallel park and BBQ? Who would rather buy an Xbox than the latest season of Keeping Up with the Kardashians? I'm earnestly looking for an answer and quite puzzled here.

First off, I know this is Fark and hyperbole is the norm here, but you do know that there is a middle ground between being a cool "One of the guys girls" and a Kardashian fan right?

I have a bunch of friends who have the "nerdy girls" and "Cool chicks who know how to do stuff" and that's great. Sometimes I would love it if my girl didn't bust my balls for playing video games so much. She watches some reality TV and it drives me nuts and she can be totally freaking helpless sometimes. But those friends with the "guy's girl," usually their houses look like shiat. They aren't very ambitious, and every single one has confided in my at one time or another that they wish their women were more feminine.

And before you roll out the "nerdy laid back gamer chick by day/ smoking hot, lingerie wearing sex goddess vixen by night" unicorn, I do believe that most women who have primarily guy friends didn't get the socialization with other women that teaches how to be seductive and sensual. (also, giggity)

As for me, it really boils down to the kind of man I want to be, and how I want my life to look. I've seen myself at my most depraved bachelor form, and its gross. I need a woman who has strengths that compliment my laundry list of weaknesses. Someone who can pick out a shirt for me, or demand I buy new sheets after I got a big bleach stain on the old ones, someone who will say something if I crack that 5th beer on a random Tuesday night. The last thing I need is a girl who is just as lazy and covered in Cheeto dust as I am, even if the though of a low-key chick can be appealing.

I look at the men I admire and want to be like; cultured, accomplished, wealthy, classy, stylish etc. In each case I just can't im ...


I was kinda thinking that. I've never dated a man who preferred McDonald's over my home cooking or who would go a month between changing the sheets. Now we're assuming all guys are perma-fapping slobs with no ambition. My mister shares the cleaning with me but I do all the cooking.
 
2012-06-25 02:16:47 PM  

KellyX: Somehow I don't think it's too far off... she managed to get my GF to start reading them too... my GF described it as hardcore porn.


Good grief. I'm reading it on Kindle, but I'm having trouble with it. I'm 75 pages in and no one has taken their clothes off yet. There's been one kiss. It's going to have to get awful racy soon or I'll never finish it. I'm also reading Bromfield's Pleasant Valley, a truly great book, so it's pretty hard to make myself keep reading that adolescent I-want-to-be-dominated fantasy.

By the way, women still want sex. Desperately. But my impression is that good sex is getting harder for women to find. Many women my wife knows are deeply unsatisfied by their sex lives. According to her, they never stop complaining about their husbands and boyfriends.

I don't get it. Sex is not rocket science.
 
2012-06-25 02:17:31 PM  

kiwimoogle84: vonapathy: TenJed_77: vonapathy: at me blankly.

Men are more interesting. Most women are petty and shallow. Pardon me for not fitting in your box.


Oh and elev8mel8r - green please :)

TL;DR

I was kinda fug and awkward growing up, therefore I trash talk my gender so I can earn dudepoints, now I have ALL TEH M
Wtf?
Seemed like a cool answer to me. Half my female cousins think the same way, acouple are lesbian, and the rest are normal mid-western woman(without the fat). Don't see the trash talk, if you want your SO to be the most girlie of girls, go for it. But don't knock what others might like just because you don't.
/large family
/way too many

Well, that's not quite what I'm getting at, since I'm a chick...and I'm into dudes...but beyond that, what kiwimoogle84 is sprouting is some pretty tired old BS. I should know, I said the same thing till I realized how dumb and insecure I sounded. Look, its one thing to have your preference for non-gender normative pastimes, but to go out of your way to insult women who are into things that you consider 'feminine' is so...weak, petty, and transparent.

It just smacks of revenge mean girl-ism with a dash of scoring dudepoints [look! look! I like beer, and sports! I'm so cool and not fussy like those other girls, validate meeee!!!!!]. Based on kiwimoogle84 username I assume shes the same age as me, I'd hope, that at our age, a person would have gotten past all the BS and would have reached a point of not giving a shiat about what other people do. Why the insults? Why call out culturally promoted stereotypes that hardly apply to a vast, vast majority of women?

At the end of the day, its just attention whoring with a bit of sour grapes thrown in. She could have just as easily expressed her preference for 'dudestuff' without shiatting on all the ladiez to curry favor with the bros.

Oh and I never said those things were bad, btw. It's just not my style. You assumed I was being derogatory and I wasn't. All the girls who prefe ...


Its cool, sometimes I get really abrasive when it comes to gendered discussions because I'm an obnoxious feminist, and I try to stand up for lady things because I'm paranoid that misogyny is EVERWHUURRRR.
 
2012-06-25 02:20:50 PM  

kiwimoogle84: vonapathy: TenJed_77: vonapathy: at me blankly.

Men are more interesting. Most women are petty and shallow. Pardon me for not fitting in your box.


Oh and elev8mel8r - green please :)

TL;DR

I was kinda fug and awkward growing up, therefore I trash talk my gender so I can earn dudepoints, now I have ALL TEH M
Wtf?
Seemed like a cool answer to me. Half my female cousins think the same way, acouple are lesbian, and the rest are normal mid-western woman(without the fat). Don't see the trash talk, if you want your SO to be the most girlie of girls, go for it. But don't knock what others might like just because you don't.
/large family
/way too many

Well, that's not quite what I'm getting at, since I'm a chick...and I'm into dudes...but beyond that, what kiwimoogle84 is sprouting is some pretty tired old BS. I should know, I said the same thing till I realized how dumb and insecure I sounded. Look, its one thing to have your preference for non-gender normative pastimes, but to go out of your way to insult women who are into things that you consider 'feminine' is so...weak, petty, and transparent.

It just smacks of revenge mean girl-ism with a dash of scoring dudepoints [look! look! I like beer, and sports! I'm so cool and not fussy like those other girls, validate meeee!!!!!]. Based on kiwimoogle84 username I assume shes the same age as me, I'd hope, that at our age, a person would have gotten past all the BS and would have reached a point of not giving a shiat about what other people do. Why the insults? Why call out culturally promoted stereotypes that hardly apply to a vast, vast majority of women?

At the end of the day, its just attention whoring with a bit of sour grapes thrown in. She could have just as easily expressed her preference for 'dudestuff' without shiatting on all the ladiez to curry favor with the bros.

I didn't mean to imply that I dislike women. That's not the case. My best friend is female- because we think along the same lines. And it's not ...


Where have you been all my life?
 
2012-06-25 02:23:30 PM  

kiwimoogle84: vonapathy: i>

I can summarize for both of you as it relates to this thread:
kiwi's point was that she dislikes many in her gender because they are self-involved in their relationships and the things they tend to like to buy, and don't tend to cross the line to extend themselves to their significant other's wants and needs.
vonapathy thinks that women can be friends with each other and women can be friends with men.
One likes sex, the other has remained steadfastly silent on the topic, the actual topic at hand. Now back to our regualrly scheduled discussion.

 
2012-06-25 02:49:20 PM  

knobmaker: KellyX: Somehow I don't think it's too far off... she managed to get my GF to start reading them too... my GF described it as hardcore porn.

Good grief. I'm reading it on Kindle, but I'm having trouble with it. I'm 75 pages in and no one has taken their clothes off yet. There's been one kiss. It's going to have to get awful racy soon or I'll never finish it. I'm also reading Bromfield's Pleasant Valley, a truly great book, so it's pretty hard to make myself keep reading that adolescent I-want-to-be-dominated fantasy.

By the way, women still want sex. Desperately. But my impression is that good sex is getting harder for women to find. Many women my wife knows are deeply unsatisfied by their sex lives. According to her, they never stop complaining about their husbands and boyfriends.

I don't get it. Sex is not rocket science.


Aren't they somewhat responsible for their own pleasure? I would ask all the time for input, what I could do better, all of that. I figured at first that we never had sex because I was that repulsive or shiatty at it. I then learned the true meaning of "never". I used to think once a month was "never" and it just got worse from there.

While that may still be some of the truth (i.e., that I am vagina repellent and I should just do the women of the world a favor and off myself now), I sort of don't think that's the whole story for me personally.
 
2012-06-25 02:51:38 PM  
Vonapathy: it's cool. I get all riled up in certain threads too. *fistbump*

LLGames: I'm flattered. Been happily taken. Mister Kiwi puts up with my many, many, MANY quirks, trust me.


And yeah, the author is an idiot. I think women just aren't in the mood for lots of reasons. Hell, I've had my moments. Mostly because I was stressed or busy or farkin' tired. But women as a whole want sex, I think.
 
2012-06-25 02:55:26 PM  
Meh. If you go out of your way to tell everyone how awesome you are, you're probably not.
 
2012-06-25 02:56:48 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: knobmaker: KellyX: Somehow I don't think it's too far off... she managed to get my GF to start reading them too... my GF described it as hardcore porn.

Good grief. I'm reading it on Kindle, but I'm having trouble with it. I'm 75 pages in and no one has taken their clothes off yet. There's been one kiss. It's going to have to get awful racy soon or I'll never finish it. I'm also reading Bromfield's Pleasant Valley, a truly great book, so it's pretty hard to make myself keep reading that adolescent I-want-to-be-dominated fantasy.

By the way, women still want sex. Desperately. But my impression is that good sex is getting harder for women to find. Many women my wife knows are deeply unsatisfied by their sex lives. According to her, they never stop complaining about their husbands and boyfriends.

I don't get it. Sex is not rocket science.

Aren't they somewhat responsible for their own pleasure? I would ask all the time for input, what I could do better, all of that. I figured at first that we never had sex because I was that repulsive or shiatty at it. I then learned the true meaning of "never". I used to think once a month was "never" and it just got worse from there.

While that may still be some of the truth (i.e., that I am vagina repellent and I should just do the women of the world a favor and off myself now), I sort of don't think that's the whole story for me personally.


Here's a fun twist- I've had exes get offended if I used my hands to help the process during sex. Like, "what, I'm not enough for you?"

Mister Kiwi doesn't care how I get there, only that I do. Yeah, women are responsible for making men aware of their needs. Men are responsible for seeing those needs are met. Vice versa.

Honestly, I think you just got a bad apple. It's unfortunate. Some women just see it as a chore and not as a fun, liberating experience. My friend Annie *name has been changed, she's a farkette* is 29 and has never had an O. She puts masturbating on a to-do list to try. We've had many discussions about it. She just can't loosen up and enjoy herself for whatever reason.
 
2012-06-25 02:58:34 PM  
My wife got some progesterone suppositories. When we were picking them up at the pharmacy the pharmacist (a woman) gives her some instructions and hands her an applicator. We were both like, what's that? She said some women aren't comfortable with touching themselves down there. You could have knocked me over with a feather.
 
2012-06-25 03:00:00 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Here's a fun twist- I've had exes get offended if I used my hands to help the process during sex. Like, "what, I'm not enough for you?"


That's retarded. I think it's hot.

kiwimoogle84: My friend Annie *name has been changed, she's a farkette* is 29 and has never had an O.


That's terrible. Here's hoping you can show her the way.
 
2012-06-25 03:00:55 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Vonapathy: it's cool. I get all riled up in certain threads too. *fistbump*

LLGames: I'm flattered. Been happily taken. Mister Kiwi puts up with my many, many, MANY quirks, trust me.


And yeah, the author is an idiot. I think women just aren't in the mood for lots of reasons. Hell, I've had my moments. Mostly because I was stressed or busy or farkin' tired. But women as a whole want sex, I think.


Well, it's been my experience that when things are new women are horny as all get out, then after living together for a couple of years in comfort, the drive just vanishes.

/Although I don't think my current girl quite expected her drive to vanish, constantly complains of feeling "broken" 'cause she's never in the mood.
 
2012-06-25 03:03:56 PM  
Well, women certainly haven't lost their libidos around the Midwest. What are y'all putting in the water near the coasts?
 
2012-06-25 03:05:01 PM  

LLGames: kiwimoogle84: Vonapathy: it's cool. I get all riled up in certain threads too. *fistbump*

LLGames: I'm flattered. Been happily taken. Mister Kiwi puts up with my many, many, MANY quirks, trust me.


And yeah, the author is an idiot. I think women just aren't in the mood for lots of reasons. Hell, I've had my moments. Mostly because I was stressed or busy or farkin' tired. But women as a whole want sex, I think.

Well, it's been my experience that when things are new women are horny as all get out, then after living together for a couple of years in comfort, the drive just vanishes.

/Although I don't think my current girl quite expected her drive to vanish, constantly complains of feeling "broken" 'cause she's never in the mood.


I've heard that story too. I've had my moments. It's when they won't do anything about it that it's a problem. When I couldn't get it up, as it were, I went and got some sensation/circulation boosting stuff. Holy cow, you couldn't STOP me from climbing up his leg if you tried.

MoronLessOff: I actually offered. She said it would be too weird. Harrumph.
 
2012-06-25 03:06:12 PM  
kiwimoogle84:

The really confusing thing is that she has often claimed that she wants to, says she misses it, all of that. It hasn't helped that the frustration and resentment has worked it's way to a crescendo for me, though. I admit that I haven't been fun to be around lately...just a bad cycle like I was saying before, and with the hospitalization, I just need to set it all aside and see if we can actually be healthy going forward.
 
2012-06-25 03:06:22 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Well, women certainly haven't lost their libidos around the Midwest. What are y'all putting in the water near the coasts?


Psst: born and raised in California. Indy transplant. :)
 
2012-06-25 03:08:46 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: kiwimoogle84:

The really confusing thing is that she has often claimed that she wants to, says she misses it, all of that. It hasn't helped that the frustration and resentment has worked it's way to a crescendo for me, though. I admit that I haven't been fun to be around lately...just a bad cycle like I was saying before, and with the hospitalization, I just need to set it all aside and see if we can actually be healthy going forward.


Yeah, it's a vicious cycle. It's mental. When you try too hard, you end up unable. Relaxing and trying to go with the flow is the key. Try some of them gels that make a woman wetter than the great lakes. I testify to you, they work.

Hopefully it all works out. EIP, me and Moron both. We've discussed this very thing regarding our respective SO's.
 
2012-06-25 03:09:20 PM  

kiwimoogle84: MoronLessOff: I actually offered. She said it would be too weird. Harrumph.

Is it ok that I have tight pants right now?

Step one, get a few bottles of wine.
Step two, do what you do with wine.
Step three, solve the problem.
Step four, report back to me.
Step five....profit?

KiwDaWabbit: kiwimoogle84:

The really confusing thing is that she has often claimed that she wants to, says she misses it, all of that. It hasn't helped that the frustration and resentment has worked it's way to a crescendo for me, though. I admit that I haven't been fun to be around lately...just a bad cycle like I was saying before, and with the hospitalization, I just need to set it all aside and see if we can actually be healthy going forward.


Kiwi is becoming a regular romance therapist.
 
2012-06-25 03:10:57 PM  

kiwimoogle84: KiwDaWabbit: kiwimoogle84:

The really confusing thing is that she has often claimed that she wants to, says she misses it, all of that. It hasn't helped that the frustration and resentment has worked it's way to a crescendo for me, though. I admit that I haven't been fun to be around lately...just a bad cycle like I was saying before, and with the hospitalization, I just need to set it all aside and see if we can actually be healthy going forward.

Yeah, it's a vicious cycle. It's mental. When you try too hard, you end up unable. Relaxing and trying to go with the flow is the key. Try some of them gels that make a woman wetter than the great lakes. I testify to you, they work.

Hopefully it all works out. EIP, me and Moron both. We've discussed this very thing regarding our respective SO's.


I'd be more than happy to offer my input. It may take a while to get back to you though.
 
2012-06-25 03:15:24 PM  

MoronLessOff: kiwimoogle84: MoronLessOff: I actually offered. She said it would be too weird. Harrumph.
Is it ok that I have tight pants right now?

Step one, get a few bottles of wine.
Step two, do what you do with wine.
Step three, solve the problem.
Step four, report back to me.
Step five....profit?

KiwDaWabbit: kiwimoogle84:

The really confusing thing is that she has often claimed that she wants to, says she misses it, all of that. It hasn't helped that the frustration and resentment has worked it's way to a crescendo for me, though. I admit that I haven't been fun to be around lately...just a bad cycle like I was saying before, and with the hospitalization, I just need to set it all aside and see if we can actually be healthy going forward.

Kiwi is becoming a regular romance therapist.


Not if she has my issue of being unable to finish while severely intoxicated. I get the female equivalent of whiskey dick. True story.
 
2012-06-25 03:17:24 PM  
I've found the best way to get a significant other to rekindle her interest in me after things have become too routine is to make it very obvious that there are other women who want to fark me. Sometimes this included sleeping with these women. Gets the passion back in a hurry, though it may also get you stabbed.

/was young and stupid, wouldn't recommend this method
 
2012-06-25 03:18:18 PM  
kiwimoogle84:

Maybe some day as far as the gel thing goes. We have to get past the total lockout/shutdown stage of it all first...lucky to get a hug right now as it stands.

MoronLessOff:

Thank you.
 
2012-06-25 03:18:34 PM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: I've found the best way to get a significant other to rekindle her interest in me after things have become too routine is to make it very obvious that there are other women who want to fark me. Sometimes this included sleeping with these women. Gets the passion back in a hurry, though it may also get you stabbed.

/was young and stupid, wouldn't recommend this method


*snort*

And you, sir, are in blue.
 
2012-06-25 03:19:13 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Not if she has my issue of being unable to finish while severely intoxicated. I get the female equivalent of whiskey dick. True story.


Only one way to find out.

Also, doesn't that just mean that you can keep going like the Energizer bunny?

/past few days have been....exhausting.
 
2012-06-25 03:26:56 PM  
I look forward to seeing this headline again in the HOTY voting
 
2012-06-25 03:27:04 PM  

KiplingKat872: Er...dude, it sounds like you want a Mom, not a GF.

You really should be doing stuff like that for yourself. It's your life, it up to you to make it what you want. You don't get a GF as an "assistant."


My life is my responsibility, but the woman you choose to be with is going to heavily influence your life, so its your responsibility to choose one that makes you better, if that's important to you.

Since when is a relationship not about being partners, helping each other out, being strong where the other one is weak?

Dating some stoney gamer chick that is little more than a roommate I bang on occasion sounds nice, but again, its lazy.
 
2012-06-25 03:34:26 PM  

Magnanimous_J: My life is my responsibility, but the woman you choose to be with is going to heavily influence your life


Why?

Seriously. You have a life path, why would you alter that becuase of the woman you are with?

Dude, it's not her responsibility to make your life what you want it to be. That is totally you, and you can't blame you life being a failure on the girl you are dating.

I gotta tell you right now, I have had guy try to pull this shiat, try to make me carry the responsibility for the relationship. The relationship was over in a matter of weeks. I got no interest in being someone's mother. At all. If a man can't take care of his own shiat, It's not my responsibility to pick up the slack. I have my own life to lead.

"Partnership" is about making the relationship work, not making you work.
 
2012-06-25 03:39:01 PM  
Magnanimous_J:

I mean, yes, partners are there to support each other through the down times, but you want someone to take care of you all the time. Like materially take care of you like your Mom did. I can tell you right now, a lot of women encountering that attitude are thinking, "Fark that noise."

What happened if you meet this dream woman who takes care of you, you get married, and then you have a kid? She is not going to be able to take care of you anymore. How are you going to handle that?
 
2012-06-25 03:39:32 PM  

MoronLessOff: kiwimoogle84: Not if she has my issue of being unable to finish while severely intoxicated. I get the female equivalent of whiskey dick. True story.

Only one way to find out.

Also, doesn't that just mean that you can keep going like the Energizer bunny?

/past few days have been....exhausting.


Well yeah but he gets frustrated because I don't get mine. When I don't mine he usually doesn't get his either. True gentleman.
 
2012-06-25 03:39:45 PM  
30.media.tumblr.com

/hot
 
2012-06-25 03:39:54 PM  

KiplingKat872: You have a life path, why would you alter that becuase of the woman you are with?


This is a lesson that isn't necessarily easy to learn.
 
2012-06-25 03:41:41 PM  

kiwimoogle84: MoronLessOff: kiwimoogle84: Not if she has my issue of being unable to finish while severely intoxicated. I get the female equivalent of whiskey dick. True story.

Only one way to find out.

Also, doesn't that just mean that you can keep going like the Energizer bunny?

/past few days have been....exhausting.

Well yeah but he gets frustrated because I don't get mine. When I don't mine he usually doesn't get his either. True gentleman.


Just all the more reason to keep on truckin'.
 
2012-06-25 03:42:32 PM  

Magnanimous_J: KiplingKat872: Er...dude, it sounds like you want a Mom, not a GF.

You really should be doing stuff like that for yourself. It's your life, it up to you to make it what you want. You don't get a GF as an "assistant."

My life is my responsibility, but the woman you choose to be with is going to heavily influence your life, so its your responsibility to choose one that makes you better, if that's important to you.

Since when is a relationship not about being partners, helping each other out, being strong where the other one is weak?

Dating some stoney gamer chick that is little more than a roommate I bang on occasion sounds nice, but again, its lazy.


PS- I neither smoke weed nor game heavily. Nowhere did I mention being a slob or whatever. I'm balanced. I'm clean. I am domestic. I just have guy hobbies and such.

I agree with you that one should help the other, but personal hygiene is just that- personal. I had to tell a boyfriend he needed a shower once. At that moment I realized it was disgusting, and we were done.
 
2012-06-25 03:43:15 PM  

WhippingBoy: [30.media.tumblr.com image 500x148]

/hot


Notice how I haven't bitten. You're sad.
 
2012-06-25 03:44:22 PM  

kiwimoogle84: *snort*

And you, sir, are in blue.



Lovely!

And while I don't seriously advocate cheating, there are some posts I read on Fark occasionally about sexless relationships where I can't help but think it might be a viable option. Not getting your needs met despite doing everything possible to work through the issues? Leave them. Significant other has some leverage that makes it difficult or impossible to leave? Make it painfully obvious you will be getting laid with or without them. Again, this can seriously backfire, but as a last ditch effort, why not?
 
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