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(Huffington Post)   "Brave may not supplant Cars 2 as the worst film Pixar has yet made, but it clearly qualifies as the most disappointing"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 352
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2012-06-24 09:24:18 PM
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2012-06-24 09:26:50 PM
lame article is lame
 
2012-06-24 09:29:41 PM
It's a girl movie. So, of course it must suck.
 
2012-06-24 09:29:48 PM
I wasn't expecting to enjoy it, but I thought it was fun and very enjoyable (leagues ahead of the train wreck that was Cars 2). I'm a guy and it was definitely geared more towards the female audience, though.
 
2012-06-24 09:31:08 PM
If it's Scottish, it cannae be crap, ya buftie reviewer man!.
 
2012-06-24 09:32:04 PM
Actually, subby misquoted the article -

"Brave may not supplement Cars 2 as the worst film Pixar has yet made"

but knew what he was doing.
 
2012-06-24 09:33:39 PM
It wasn't bad, but geared towards girls.... The nudity was unexpected though.

It did make my 7 year old cry, which is always nice, but I almost lost it during Toy Story 3, so perhaps it's inherited.
 
2012-06-24 09:35:53 PM

DadOfThree: It wasn't bad, but geared towards girls.... The nudity was unexpected though.

It did make my 7 year old cry, which is always nice, but I almost lost it during Toy Story 3, so perhaps it's inherited.


If the end of TS3 and the beginning of Up don't reduce you to tears/choke you up, regardless of gender, then you have no soul.
 
2012-06-24 09:36:32 PM
Despite being a young girl-oriented film, it was very good. I'm a burly lumberjack of a man and it was fantastic

fark the haters
 
2012-06-24 09:36:48 PM

gadian: It's a girl movie. So, of course it must suck.


I wish it was more of a girls movie. The reason Brave was not as good as it could have been was its weird-ass move halfway through the movie to have one of the main characters...disappear. I don't want to spoil, but it was just lame.
 
2012-06-24 09:36:51 PM
I just saw it, I liked it quite a bit. Loved the horn dog dad.
 
2012-06-24 09:36:55 PM
I really liked it. It's a little predictable, but that didn't take away from it. Looked fabulous, likable characters, touching mother/daughter relationship. Kinda similar to "How to Train Your Dragon" and that's not a bad thing.
 
2012-06-24 09:37:45 PM
If the supposed low mark of your studio is Brave, you are clearly doing most everything right.
 
2012-06-24 09:38:22 PM

karl2025: I really liked it. It's a little predictable, but that didn't take away from it. Looked fabulous, likable characters, touching mother/daughter relationship. Kinda similar to "How to Train Your Dragon" and that's not a bad thing.


HTTYD had one huge thing over Brave - a phenomenal score. The music in Dragon was farking fantastic.
 
2012-06-24 09:41:53 PM
There was a Cars 2?
 
2012-06-24 09:42:02 PM

DadOfThree: It wasn't bad, but geared towards girls.... The nudity was unexpected though.


Wait, what? So does the carpet match the red drapes?

 
2012-06-24 09:42:14 PM
From the reviews I've read so far it sounds like Pixar got Moused.

Though the movie is 74/85% on RT, which isn't too shabby.
 
2012-06-24 09:44:47 PM
It is officially popular for film critics to hate Pixar.

I saw Brave. It was a good story. It was fun. It had pacing. My daughter and I had a great time. I will buy it in HD when it becomes available.

Anyone who thinks this is worse than either of the Cars movies is too stupid to be listened to.
 
2012-06-24 09:46:10 PM

Surool: Anyone who thinks this is worse than either of the Cars movies is too stupid to be listened to.


I don't think anyone has said that. More disappointing, not worse.
 
2012-06-24 09:47:11 PM

DadOfThree: It wasn't bad, but geared towards girls.... The nudity was unexpected though.


I kind of thought the whole oral sex scene was pandering to the males in the audience. Still, it was arousing.
 
2012-06-24 09:48:43 PM
Cars and Cars 2 have minted more money for Pixar than any other set of movies (including tie ins, dvd sales, theme park, etc). So this movie isn't targeted towards you - that doesn't mean its bad and you'll get over it.

/still haven't seen it - but enjoying all the false outrage over it
 
2012-06-24 09:48:58 PM
I liked it but the ultimate arbiters, my 3 year old and 6 year old really enjoyed it. Therefore, mission accomplished.
 
2012-06-24 09:50:47 PM

Opeth1429: I liked it but the ultimate arbiters, my 3 year old and 6 year old really enjoyed it. Therefore, mission accomplished.


This is what's somewhat disappointing. Pixar has always been a movie studio which made films for kids AND adults. Brave was just too much of a kiddy movie, IMO.

Even though it had some sequences that I have to imagine would terrify kids. Weird choices.
 
2012-06-24 09:53:25 PM
Toy Story 2 is the worst Pixar movie.
 
2012-06-24 09:54:32 PM

Dougie AXP: If the end of TS3 and the beginning of Up don't reduce you to tears/choke you up, regardless of gender, then you have no soul.


I sat through all of Toy Story 3 and thought to myself "This is weird, I didn't get choked up once! Yeah, it was kinda sad when they all held hands there, but...."

Then Bonnie had Woody wave goodbye to Andy and Andy....reacted to it?

I exploded! I bawled like a little girl.
 
2012-06-24 09:58:29 PM

Dougie AXP: DadOfThree: It wasn't bad, but geared towards girls.... The nudity was unexpected though.

It did make my 7 year old cry, which is always nice, but I almost lost it during Toy Story 3, so perhaps it's inherited.

If the end of TS3 and the beginning of Up don't reduce you to tears/choke you up, regardless of gender, then you have no soul.


If those two scenes would make a great Voight Kampff test.
 
2012-06-24 09:58:35 PM
There was a Cars 2?

Yeah, they did an animated short starring an Aston Martin; it was pretty sweet.
 
2012-06-24 10:01:13 PM

DamnYankees: Surool: Anyone who thinks this is worse than either of the Cars movies is too stupid to be listened to.

I don't think anyone has said that. More disappointing, not worse.


How could it be more disappointing than a Doc Hollywood ripoff followed by a shallow cash-grab?
 
2012-06-24 10:02:58 PM
I like it, but there was never any memorable scenes. It's merely great, and never OMFG awesome. It really doesn't feel as epic as other Pixar film.
 
2012-06-24 10:03:16 PM

Surool: DamnYankees: Surool: Anyone who thinks this is worse than either of the Cars movies is too stupid to be listened to.

I don't think anyone has said that. More disappointing, not worse.

How could it be more disappointing than a Doc Hollywood ripoff followed by a shallow cash-grab?


Doc Hollywood ripoff? Which Pixar film is a ripoff of that film?
 
2012-06-24 10:03:37 PM
It'll be a cold day in Hell before I start criticizing Pixar.
 
2012-06-24 10:06:24 PM
Pixar makes kiddie movies, They are fun to look at, and provide grateful parents the opportunity to get their crotchfruit to leave them alone for a couple hours a day.

To call them bereft of intrigue or substance is to criticize water for being tasteless, or air for being breathable.
 
2012-06-24 10:07:02 PM
I saw it this weekend and enjoyed it. Is it one of the absolute best Pixar classics? No. It's not in the league of Toy Story, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Wall-E, or Up. That being said, it's still a good movie. There are a lot of good character moments that work, and it did some things that I've never seen in an animated feature. I think people were expecting another Mulan, and I was as well. Instead we got a more personal story.

The La Luna short was one of the best they've ever done, and I'd love to see an entire movie about those three. That alone made it worth it.
 
2012-06-24 10:07:37 PM
I liked Cars. It was a heartfelt homage to a bygone era when people treated the journey as important as they did the destination.

Cars 2 was a cash grab. I'd rather watch all the Mater's Tall Tales shorts back-to-back twice than sit through Cars 2 again.
 
2012-06-24 10:08:30 PM

soporific: It's not in the league of Toy Story, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Wall-E, or Up. That being said, it's still a good movie.


Don't leave Ratattouille of that list. One of the most purely enjoyable movies I've ever seen.

soporific: it did some things that I've never seen in an animated feature.


Like what?
 
2012-06-24 10:10:26 PM

soporific:
The La Luna short was one of the best they've ever done, and I'd love to see an entire movie about those three. That alone made it worth it.


No, no you don't. Shorts should be shorts. It was a beautiful short.

/I have a longer rant about F Scott Fitzgerald and his work for another day.
 
2012-06-24 10:11:39 PM

DamnYankees: soporific: It's not in the league of Toy Story, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Wall-E, or Up. That being said, it's still a good movie.

Don't leave Ratattouille of that list. One of the most purely enjoyable movies I've ever seen.


What is amazing is they had made 12 feature films before this and you just named 7. So to be an average Pixar movie you have a very high bar to meet.

/unless they keep making Cars movies
 
2012-06-24 10:12:44 PM
The one that I don't like is Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo just didn't set well with me. I enjoyed How to Train your Dragon much more than Nemo, actually.

Though all bow down before WALL-E.

/haven't seen BRAVE, yet
 
2012-06-24 10:13:46 PM
Expectations didn't match the final product. I know mine didn't and I am a bit off-kilter for it. The kidlettes enjoyed it however. Pixar chickenshiatted the plot - I also suspect this was after Chapman left because she was breaking one of those damn 22 Pixar rules for dating my daughter or whatever.
 
2012-06-24 10:14:04 PM
My personal ranking of Pixar movies
Toy Story 3
The Incredibles
Up
Toy Story
Wall-E
Finding Nemo
Monsters Inc
Toy Story 2
A Bug's Life
Cars
Ratatouille

Have not seen Cars 2, but I'm guessing it will rank last or next to last when I do, while I predict Brave will be in the middle with TS2 and MI
 
2012-06-24 10:14:14 PM

soporific: It's not in the league of Toy Story, Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Wall-E, or Up


How you put Finding Nemo and Up in that list is mind-boggling. Finding Nemo was (like Blade Runner) just a series of random shorts that had barely a thread tying it all together. Up, aside from the exquisite first 10 minutes, is boring as all get out.
 
2012-06-24 10:14:23 PM
It wasn't WALL*E, but those are lofty standards. It will probably be beloved by lots of people, especially girls.

I didn't get people biatching about the girl adventure being disappointing, necessarily, at least in the way people were complaining about it. Christy Lemire, for example, thought the movie wasn't epic enough. Seriously, the Pixar movies that count as epic are WALL*E, Up, and Toy Story. It's not like Pixar does these life-changing movies all the time. Most of their movies that are awesome are just really really good movies.

I do think that The Incredibles was a bit better in developing the mother/daughter relationship, but it's not like Pixar made a one-dimensional, shiatty character for their first female lead. What were people expecting? Erin Brockovich? GI Jane?
 
2012-06-24 10:15:42 PM

DamnYankees: Doc Hollywood ripoff? Which Pixar film is a ripoff of that film?


Cars. Same plot. Mr. Important gets waylaid in a bumpkin town until he makes amends for what he broke, then as he stays he learns that people out in the sticks aren't all that despicable, and he gets a girl and learns the value of friendship.

As for Pixar movies, I've yet to not enjoy one. Sure, Cars 1 and 2 weren't stellar, but I still found them enjoyable (Cars 2 had a bunch of great jokes for gearheads). We say Brave on Friday night and liked it just fine. No, it's no WALL-E, Toy Story, Up, or others, but it's fine for what it is. Just remember- it is a Disney fairy tale done by Pixar. Amusing, enjoyable, funny, but there's no doubt in my mind that Disney wanted a princess who reflected more independence than the regular bunch.

If you don't enjoy the movie, you're dead inside. You may not love it, but it's entertaining enough. Not every movie has to be a solid home run... sometimes a single or double is enough. There's too many critics sitting back waiting for Pixar to step on their collective crank with golf shoes. It hasn't happened yet (no, not even with the Cars movies). It might eventually happen, but not yet.
 
2012-06-24 10:15:52 PM

Mr Talbot: My personal ranking of Pixar movies
Toy Story 3
The Incredibles
Up
Toy Story
Wall-E
Finding Nemo
Monsters Inc
Toy Story 2
A Bug's Life
Cars
Ratatouille

Have not seen Cars 2, but I'm guessing it will rank last or next to last when I do, while I predict Brave will be in the middle with TS2 and MI


You are out of your farking mind, putting Ratatouille last.
 
2012-06-24 10:15:52 PM

Ringshadow: The one that I don't like is Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo just didn't set well with me. I enjoyed How to Train your Dragon much more than Nemo, actually.

Though all bow down before WALL-E.

/haven't seen BRAVE, yet


How to Train Your Dragon is the only Dreamworks one that is in a class with Pixar IMO. Brilliant movie.
 
2012-06-24 10:16:48 PM

Mr Talbot: Ringshadow: The one that I don't like is Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo just didn't set well with me. I enjoyed How to Train your Dragon much more than Nemo, actually.

Though all bow down before WALL-E.

/haven't seen BRAVE, yet

How to Train Your Dragon is the only Dreamworks one that is in a class with Pixar IMO. Brilliant movie.


I thought Tangled was also fantastic. A pretty perfect 'Disney princess' style movie.
 
2012-06-24 10:17:42 PM

DamnYankees: Mr Talbot: Ringshadow: The one that I don't like is Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo just didn't set well with me. I enjoyed How to Train your Dragon much more than Nemo, actually.

Though all bow down before WALL-E.

/haven't seen BRAVE, yet

How to Train Your Dragon is the only Dreamworks one that is in a class with Pixar IMO. Brilliant movie.

I thought Tangled was also fantastic. A pretty perfect 'Disney princess' style movie.


I totally give Pixar an assist on Tangled.
 
2012-06-24 10:17:48 PM

DamnYankees: Mr Talbot: My personal ranking of Pixar movies
Toy Story 3
The Incredibles
Up
Toy Story
Wall-E
Finding Nemo
Monsters Inc
Toy Story 2
A Bug's Life
Cars
Ratatouille

Have not seen Cars 2, but I'm guessing it will rank last or next to last when I do, while I predict Brave will be in the middle with TS2 and MI

You are out of your farking mind, putting Ratatouille last.


For some reason, it's just my least favorite. I really like it and it is probably better than Cars, Bugs, TS2 at least, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I do the others. I don't really know why.
 
2012-06-24 10:19:02 PM

DamnYankees: Surool: DamnYankees: Surool: Anyone who thinks this is worse than either of the Cars movies is too stupid to be listened to.

I don't think anyone has said that. More disappointing, not worse.

How could it be more disappointing than a Doc Hollywood ripoff followed by a shallow cash-grab?

Doc Hollywood ripoff? Which Pixar film is a ripoff of that film?


He's talking about Cars. The plot is nearly the same.
 
2012-06-24 10:20:32 PM

Disposable Rob: DamnYankees: Surool: DamnYankees: Surool: Anyone who thinks this is worse than either of the Cars movies is too stupid to be listened to.

I don't think anyone has said that. More disappointing, not worse.

How could it be more disappointing than a Doc Hollywood ripoff followed by a shallow cash-grab?

Doc Hollywood ripoff? Which Pixar film is a ripoff of that film?

He's talking about Cars. The plot is nearly the same.


The plot of Cars is about a big city doctor falling in love with a small town and adopting a pig?
 
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