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2012-06-24 05:58:22 PM
Benoit was supposed to challenge CM Punk for the vacant ECW Championship that night at the WWE Vengeance PPV. I was going to order the show, because Punk vs Benoit would've been a 5-star instant classic, "Match of the Year" contender.

A couple of hours before the show, I read online that Benoit had backed out due to a "family emergency".

Benoit NEVER cancelled an appearance, unless he was injured and not medically cleared to compete. I figured it must be serious, but...

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\ Sonuvab*tch...
 
2012-06-24 06:15:21 PM

Captain Steroid: Benoit was supposed to challenge CM Punk for the vacant ECW Championship that night at the WWE Vengeance PPV. I was going to order the show, because Punk vs Benoit would've been a 5-star instant classic, "Match of the Year" contender.

A couple of hours before the show, I read online that Benoit had backed out due to a "family emergency".

Benoit NEVER cancelled an appearance, unless he was injured and not medically cleared to compete. I figured it must be serious, but...

[i92.photobucket.com image 556x405]

\ Sonuvab*tch...


'Family emergency,' AKA: I've tied my family up and I'm about to murder them.
 
2012-06-24 06:19:46 PM
Hey, that Kimmel joke about Flavor Flav and Benoit was magical.
 
2012-06-24 08:08:23 PM

Cythraul: Captain Steroid: Benoit was supposed to challenge CM Punk for the vacant ECW Championship that night at the WWE Vengeance PPV. I was going to order the show, because Punk vs Benoit would've been a 5-star instant classic, "Match of the Year" contender.

A couple of hours before the show, I read online that Benoit had backed out due to a "family emergency".

Benoit NEVER cancelled an appearance, unless he was injured and not medically cleared to compete. I figured it must be serious, but...

[i92.photobucket.com image 556x405]

\ Sonuvab*tch...

'Family emergency,' AKA: I've tied my family up and I'm about to murder them.


Well imagine if they broke loose while he was wrestling. He had to strangle them right away.
 
2012-06-24 08:09:53 PM
I can't believe it was 5 years ago. Damn I'm old.
 
2012-06-24 11:03:07 PM
He was one of the best technical wrestlers I've ever seen, but what a price to pay.
 
2012-06-24 11:15:27 PM
That guy was good at asteroids.

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2012-06-24 11:22:22 PM
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RIP Benoit.
 
2012-06-24 11:31:08 PM
Balls.
 
2012-06-25 12:23:04 AM
It is a shame what he did.

Parents who kill their own kin are the most horrible people in the whole world. Benoit had a legacy that few Professional Wrestlers could claim. He threw it all away when he did this cowardly act.

Chris Benoit should never have his name rehabilitated. His legacy should stay as it is: as a piece of shiat.
 
2012-06-25 12:29:21 AM

labman: I can't believe it was 5 years ago. Damn I'm old.


Really leaves you choked up, doesn't it?

Although, it's inevitable... you're going to get older the longer you hand around.
 
2012-06-25 12:40:29 AM
You blew it, FNB!

Unless you believe Mark Henry's son was involved.
 
2012-06-25 12:46:12 AM

NotEric: You blew it, FNB!

Unless you believe Mark Henry's son was involved.


Well, I never liked the look of that kid. His nails were never properly groomed, and he had hairy knuckles.
 
2012-06-25 12:49:52 AM
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CHRIS BENOIT IS HERE AND HE'S REALLY MAD
CHRIS BENOIT IS HERE AND HE'S REALLY AN-GRYYYYYYYYYY...
 
2012-06-25 12:51:01 AM

cman: It is a shame what he did.

Parents who kill their own kin are the most horrible people in the whole world. Benoit had a legacy that few Professional Wrestlers could claim. He threw it all away when he did this cowardly act.

Chris Benoit should never have his name rehabilitated. His legacy should stay as it is: as a piece of shiat.


He was sick. His brain was not working. He was unable to think clearly, like he was permanently drunk - but without the physical disabilities that state offers to clarify you're not right. He was very very badly off. He struck in anger when he wasn't angry, and when faced with his act, he was so despondent his only idea was to kill himself.

There's blame, and Chris deserves some of it. He should have stopped the first time something happened, but didn't. That's on him I tender much more blame to Vince McMahon. He let people skate by with only cursory checkups. He didn't call for regular neurological scans to see this sort of damage and work to prevent it. He didn't ban the kind of moves that got people hurt. He ignored so many warning signs, so many "wow that's strange" moments. He did it for his own personal profit. And it's not just Chris - It's Eddy (don't you think a guy with a past of drug use might want some extra cardio tests once every 6 months?), it's dozens of guys recently out of contract the moment they're not immediately useful to him who turn up dead. It's a long pattern of abusing people.

Others deserve blame too - but Chris himself and Vince - they're the big ones.

To me, Chris will always be the guy who's hugging Eddy at the end of WrestleMania 20. He'll the the guy who had hilarious skits with Edge and Christian. He'll be the Pegasus Kid, flying off the ropes into Masahiro Chono's boot. He'll be the one putting up weekly curtain-puller classics against Chris Jericho on Nitro. He'll be the guy who broke down at his friend Eddy's death.

His death, and his family's death, is a long series of missed and ignored signs by people more interested in money then a man's health, that eventually cost 3 people their lives.

/this pretty much killed my ability to stomach looking at McMahon
 
2012-06-25 12:53:08 AM
Am I the only one who imagines Benoit killing Daniel with the crippler crossface dressed up in his wrestling tights while Our Lady of Peace plays in the background?
 
2012-06-25 12:58:17 AM

saintstryfe: Others deserve blame too - but Chris himself and Vince - they're the big ones.


Just going to toss it out there: Benoit wrestled for 15 years in other companies. He spent 7 in WWF/WWE.

I'm not sure Vince is as much to blame for this one as you're giving him credit for.
 
2012-06-25 01:04:27 AM

Go Fast Turn Left: saintstryfe: Others deserve blame too - but Chris himself and Vince - they're the big ones.

Just going to toss it out there: Benoit wrestled for 15 years in other companies. He spent 7 in WWF/WWE.

I'm not sure Vince is as much to blame for this one as you're giving him credit for.


I do for two reasons:

1) he was the last one. Chris worked for him for a solid 7 years. Plenty of time to notice problems, especially after his neck injury.

2) Vince is a multi-billionaire. His company is worth more then every other wrestling organization added together and tripled a few times over. Yet he pleads poverty when it comes to talent -they're all contractors who can be let go for any reason at any time with no reason,and he has no obligation to them. His "Wellness" programs have all been responses to these tragedies and they haven't been effective. As I said: Vince could have these guys in for yearly cardio tests, bi-annual CAT scans, stuff that would show these kind of injuries that took Chris and Eddie, but he doesn't, because for him, it's not cost effective.
 
2012-06-25 01:07:22 AM

saintstryfe: Go Fast Turn Left: saintstryfe: Others deserve blame too - but Chris himself and Vince - they're the big ones.

Just going to toss it out there: Benoit wrestled for 15 years in other companies. He spent 7 in WWF/WWE.

I'm not sure Vince is as much to blame for this one as you're giving him credit for.

I do for two reasons:

1) he was the last one. Chris worked for him for a solid 7 years. Plenty of time to notice problems, especially after his neck injury.

2) Vince is a multi-billionaire. His company is worth more then every other wrestling organization added together and tripled a few times over. Yet he pleads poverty when it comes to talent -they're all contractors who can be let go for any reason at any time with no reason,and he has no obligation to them. His "Wellness" programs have all been responses to these tragedies and they haven't been effective. As I said: Vince could have these guys in for yearly cardio tests, bi-annual CAT scans, stuff that would show these kind of injuries that took Chris and Eddie, but he doesn't, because for him, it's not cost effective.


By all accounts, Benoit was a private person, and not even those who considered themselves close to him saw anything out of the ordinary with Benoit.

So why was magical evil billionaire supposed to be the one to see that Chokey McKillshiswifeandkids was going to snap?
 
2012-06-25 01:07:40 AM

saintstryfe: cman: It is a shame what he did.

Parents who kill their own kin are the most horrible people in the whole world. Benoit had a legacy that few Professional Wrestlers could claim. He threw it all away when he did this cowardly act.

Chris Benoit should never have his name rehabilitated. His legacy should stay as it is: as a piece of shiat.

He was sick. His brain was not working. He was unable to think clearly, like he was permanently drunk - but without the physical disabilities that state offers to clarify you're not right. He was very very badly off. He struck in anger when he wasn't angry, and when faced with his act, he was so despondent his only idea was to kill himself.

There's blame, and Chris deserves some of it. He should have stopped the first time something happened, but didn't. That's on him I tender much more blame to Vince McMahon. He let people skate by with only cursory checkups. He didn't call for regular neurological scans to see this sort of damage and work to prevent it. He didn't ban the kind of moves that got people hurt. He ignored so many warning signs, so many "wow that's strange" moments. He did it for his own personal profit. And it's not just Chris - It's Eddy (don't you think a guy with a past of drug use might want some extra cardio tests once every 6 months?), it's dozens of guys recently out of contract the moment they're not immediately useful to him who turn up dead. It's a long pattern of abusing people.

Others deserve blame too - but Chris himself and Vince - they're the big ones.

To me, Chris will always be the guy who's hugging Eddy at the end of WrestleMania 20. He'll the the guy who had hilarious skits with Edge and Christian. He'll be the Pegasus Kid, flying off the ropes into Masahiro Chono's boot. He'll be the one putting up weekly curtain-puller classics against Chris Jericho on Nitro. He'll be the guy who broke down at his friend Eddy's death.

His death, and his family's death, is a long series of missed and ignored s ...


Although I do believe that his neural capacity was affected by his risky style, it does not still excuse him for killing his family. When it comes down to it, the simple notion of choice always is a part of one's decision making process. He was a very depressed man. Eddies death really farked him up bad. He could no longer take the pain.

It was by choice that he took their lives. The text messages show the side of a man who knew what he was doing.
 
2012-06-25 01:14:50 AM
I remember arguing with somebody who kept screaming, "'ROIDS!!!," by saying, "No, this wasn't 'roids. This was too calculated." I wound up being right when they said his brain was like an 80-year-old with Alzheimer's.

Notice after that they slowly started removing moves that could cause concussions, the latest being Randy Orton's punt. Even piledrivers are now limited to only being delivered by either Undertaker, Kane and HHH, and even Kane as of late seems to finish opponents off with a chokeslam instead of a piledriver.
 
2012-06-25 01:26:43 AM

bluorangefyre: I remember arguing with somebody who kept screaming, "'ROIDS!!!," by saying, "No, this wasn't 'roids. This was too calculated." I wound up being right when they said his brain was like an 80-year-old with Alzheimer's.

Notice after that they slowly started removing moves that could cause concussions, the latest being Randy Orton's punt. Even piledrivers are now limited to only being delivered by either Undertaker, Kane and HHH, and even Kane as of late seems to finish opponents off with a chokeslam instead of a piledriver.


Uh, I don't know if you noticed, but other than the occasional Jerry Lawler piledriver, that move has been banned for over a decade due to Owen breaking Austin's neck with it.
 
2012-06-25 01:29:56 AM

bluorangefyre: I remember arguing with somebody who kept screaming, "'ROIDS!!!," by saying, "No, this wasn't 'roids. This was too calculated." I wound up being right when they said his brain was like an 80-year-old with Alzheimer's.

Notice after that they slowly started removing moves that could cause concussions, the latest being Randy Orton's punt. Even piledrivers are now limited to only being delivered by either Undertaker, Kane and HHH, and even Kane as of late seems to finish opponents off with a chokeslam instead of a piledriver.


Most of that shiat should have been done away with years earlier, anyway.

Chairshots to the head? What's the point? A chair across the back looks and sounds as impressive.

The problem is, the indies still use all this shiat, so now some guy making 50 bucks for a match is going out and getting brain damage to amuse 30 people in a high school gym.
 
2012-06-25 01:32:31 AM

Kouvre: bluorangefyre: I remember arguing with somebody who kept screaming, "'ROIDS!!!," by saying, "No, this wasn't 'roids. This was too calculated." I wound up being right when they said his brain was like an 80-year-old with Alzheimer's.

Notice after that they slowly started removing moves that could cause concussions, the latest being Randy Orton's punt. Even piledrivers are now limited to only being delivered by either Undertaker, Kane and HHH, and even Kane as of late seems to finish opponents off with a chokeslam instead of a piledriver.

Uh, I don't know if you noticed, but other than the occasional Jerry Lawler piledriver, that move has been banned for over a decade due to Owen breaking Austin's neck with it.


Honestly if it were the Jerry Lawler sitdown piledriver that were being used, the move would be safer. It's the Undertaker's Tombstone piledriver that's more dangerous. And the variant Owen Hart used on Austin... that was just farking stupidity.
 
2012-06-25 01:35:04 AM
The day the facts came out is the day I completely turned my back on Benoit. All of the obfuscating, blaming Vince or roids or whatever, it's just bunk. He did it, and it he was so farked up he could have asked for help at any time. He didn't.

In the words of Sheiky Baby, "F*ck Chris Benoit".
 
2012-06-25 01:35:48 AM
This is a particularly brutal day in the business.

In addition to the Benoit tragedy, today marks the anniversaries of Toni Adams' death (only 45), Biff Wellington's death (same date as Benoit), and Cowboy Bradley. This is also the 10th anniversary of Bret Hart's bicycle crash and stroke.

/Jesus.
 
2012-06-25 01:37:19 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Kouvre: bluorangefyre: I remember arguing with somebody who kept screaming, "'ROIDS!!!," by saying, "No, this wasn't 'roids. This was too calculated." I wound up being right when they said his brain was like an 80-year-old with Alzheimer's.

Notice after that they slowly started removing moves that could cause concussions, the latest being Randy Orton's punt. Even piledrivers are now limited to only being delivered by either Undertaker, Kane and HHH, and even Kane as of late seems to finish opponents off with a chokeslam instead of a piledriver.

Uh, I don't know if you noticed, but other than the occasional Jerry Lawler piledriver, that move has been banned for over a decade due to Owen breaking Austin's neck with it.

Honestly if it were the Jerry Lawler sitdown piledriver that were being used, the move would be safer. It's the Undertaker's Tombstone piledriver that's more dangerous. And the variant Owen Hart used on Austin... that was just farking stupidity.


A lot of people in the business thought Owen breaking Austin's neck was karma for Austin breaking Masahiro Chono's neck with literally the exact same move. (new window)
 
2012-06-25 01:37:46 AM
Man, this thread is getting me all choked up.
 
2012-06-25 01:44:08 AM

fatalvenom: Man, this thread is getting me all choked up.


It's okay... go listen to some Slipknot and you'll feel better.
 
2012-06-25 01:46:33 AM

FirstNationalBastard: fatalvenom: Man, this thread is getting me all choked up.

It's okay... go listen to some Slipknot and you'll feel better.


This headline really never should have been greened - it's smothering me with depression.
 
2012-06-25 01:48:57 AM

Kouvre: FirstNationalBastard: fatalvenom: Man, this thread is getting me all choked up.

It's okay... go listen to some Slipknot and you'll feel better.

This headline really never should have been greened - it's smothering me with depression.


Sounds to me like you need a Woman to cheer you up...

www.deadwrestlers.net
 
2012-06-25 01:51:06 AM

Ed Becker: This is a particularly brutal day in the business.

In addition to the Benoit tragedy, today marks the anniversaries of Toni Adams' death (only 45), Biff Wellington's death (same date as Benoit), and Cowboy Bradley. This is also the 10th anniversary of Bret Hart's bicycle crash and stroke.

/Jesus.


July 4th was another one. Adrian Adonis killed in a car crash, same for Joey Marella(referee). I think Brutus Beefcake took a paraglider to the face July 4th as well.
 
2012-06-25 01:52:34 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Kouvre: FirstNationalBastard: fatalvenom: Man, this thread is getting me all choked up.

It's okay... go listen to some Slipknot and you'll feel better.

This headline really never should have been greened - it's smothering me with depression.

Sounds to me like you need a Woman to cheer you up...

[www.deadwrestlers.net image 320x240]


I'll pass, thank you. They always end up as a fragile ex.
 
2012-06-25 01:58:18 AM
 
2012-06-25 02:01:13 AM
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Choking hazard.
 
2012-06-25 02:03:29 AM

Flappyhead: Ed Becker: This is a particularly brutal day in the business.

In addition to the Benoit tragedy, today marks the anniversaries of Toni Adams' death (only 45), Biff Wellington's death (same date as Benoit), and Cowboy Bradley. This is also the 10th anniversary of Bret Hart's bicycle crash and stroke.

/Jesus.

July 4th was another one. Adrian Adonis killed in a car crash, same for Joey Marella(referee). I think Brutus Beefcake took a paraglider to the face July 4th as well.


I thought Beefcake's accident was closer to Summerslam, but in checking results from 1990, it turns out that he does disappear from all cards after 7/1/90.
 
2012-06-25 02:07:28 AM

FirstNationalBastard: saintstryfe:

To me, Chris will always be the guy who's hugging Eddy at the end of WrestleMania 20.

What's this you're talking about?

Eddie Guerrero celebrated with himself in the ring after Nobody beat Triple H.

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Wrestlers to win the Royal Rumble from #1 - Shawn Michaels and Nobody.

FirstNationalBastard: I just wish WWE would quit editing his matches or references to him out of old Nitros and PPVs.


Me too.
 
2012-06-25 02:12:58 AM

robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: saintstryfe:

To me, Chris will always be the guy who's hugging Eddy at the end of WrestleMania 20.

What's this you're talking about?

Eddie Guerrero celebrated with himself in the ring after Nobody beat Triple H.

[i6.photobucket.com image 380x327]

Wrestlers to win the Royal Rumble from #1 - Shawn Michaels and Nobody.

FirstNationalBastard: I just wish WWE would quit editing his matches or references to him out of old Nitros and PPVs.

Me too.


That's not going to happen. Remember the backlash they got for having a memorial show for him when after the show the actual circumstances of his death was released to the public? I could just imagine the uproar it would cause if they were selling or broadcasting old matches where they were talking about him in any kind of good light like they did during his time as a wrestler.
 
2012-06-25 02:15:41 AM

ongbok: That's not going to happen. Remember the backlash they got for having a memorial show for him when after the show the actual circumstances of his death was released to the public? I could just imagine the uproar it would cause if they were selling or broadcasting old matches where they were talking about him in any kind of good light like they did during his time as a wrestler.


Just include his stuff. No one has to compliment him or comment about it at all. If you want to make sure you're not "advertising" him in any way, shiat, don't even put his name on the box.
 
2012-06-25 02:15:50 AM
For what it's worth I banged a coworker this past New Year's who very much resembles Woman. Crazy night, but at no point did I feel compelled to choke her out with a goddamned wrestling move.
 
2012-06-25 02:20:59 AM

Owangotang: For what it's worth I banged a coworker this past New Year's who very much resembles Woman. Crazy night, but at no point did I feel compelled to choke her out with a goddamned wrestling move.


You didn't steal her away from a fat, balding co-worker who happened to be kind of satanic, did you?
 
2012-06-25 03:02:31 AM
5 years? Damn. I still remember watching all of the Benoit references being removed from the WWE website almost in real time after the found out he was the cause of the deaths. Especially after they had that memorial service for him.
 
2012-06-25 03:17:19 AM
If only Nancy had tapped, Chris would be in the hall of fame by now.
 
2012-06-25 03:19:03 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Kouvre: FirstNationalBastard: fatalvenom: Man, this thread is getting me all choked up.

It's okay... go listen to some Slipknot and you'll feel better.

This headline really never should have been greened - it's smothering me with depression.

Sounds to me like you need a Woman to cheer you up...

[www.deadwrestlers.net image 320x240]


I can't fap to a dead Woman.
 
2012-06-25 03:21:27 AM
I know a lot of people are going to be butthurt over this, and I doubt I will return in a timely manner to reply to any of the responses, but from the evidence the autopsy noted Benoit had a brain of an "advanced Alzheimer's patient" if you look up the facts. In other words, he was mentally ill - knowing what we know now if he were to stand trial he would be found not guilty by reason of insanity. He basically had the same brain injuries that a ton of NFL players have that have gone crazy and killed themselves. It's a terrible tragedy, but not one we can place blame on Benoit for, in my view, any more than we can place blame on someone with severe dementia acting out. It's a shame his legacy was ruined.
 
2012-06-25 03:47:10 AM

Vega.: I know a lot of people are going to be butthurt over this, and I doubt I will return in a timely manner to reply to any of the responses, but from the evidence the autopsy noted Benoit had a brain of an "advanced Alzheimer's patient" if you look up the facts. In other words, he was mentally ill - knowing what we know now if he were to stand trial he would be found not guilty by reason of insanity. He basically had the same brain injuries that a ton of NFL players have that have gone crazy and killed themselves. It's a terrible tragedy, but not one we can place blame on Benoit for, in my view, any more than we can place blame on someone with severe dementia acting out. It's a shame his legacy was ruined.


This is true. And if anybody has ever known any Alzheimer's patients you would know that they have been known to get violent and attack people. However in Benoit's case this wasn't an 80 year old attacking, this was a 30 something, strong as an ox athlete.
 
2012-06-25 04:19:15 AM

ongbok: This is true. And if anybody has ever known any Alzheimer's patients you would know that they have been known to get violent and attack people. However in Benoit's case this wasn't an 80 year old attacking, this was a 30 something, strong as an ox athlete.


Gotta bring up Verne Gagne bodyslamming his roommate to death. Granted, the style Verne worked wasn't as bump-heavy as is worked today, but you don't necessarily need to crack your coconut on the mat or a chair to get a concussion. I also have no idea if Verne's condition was a byproduct of his years in the ring.
 
2012-06-25 04:21:22 AM

RepoManTSM: Am I the only one who imagines Benoit killing Daniel with the crippler crossface dressed up in his wrestling tights while Our Lady of Peace plays in the background?


You mean are you the only one here who has such a farked up conscience that it renders you to be a farked up sick bastard?

Probably not but you are one of the minority deranged enough to actually put it out there for all to see. Congrats.
 
2012-06-25 05:17:15 AM

saintstryfe: 2) Vince is a multi-billionaire. His company is worth more then every other wrestling organization added together and tripled a few times over. Yet he pleads poverty when it comes to talent -they're all contractors who can be let go for any reason at any time with no reason,and he has no obligation to them. His "Wellness" programs have all been responses to these tragedies and they haven't been effective. As I said: Vince could have these guys in for yearly cardio tests, bi-annual CAT scans, stuff that would show these kind of injuries that took Chris and Eddie, but he doesn't, because for him, it's not cost effective.


Everything in the world is in response to tragedies. Why do ships now all have the right number of lifeboats?
 
2012-06-25 05:18:27 AM

saintstryfe: I tender much more blame to Vince McMahon.


I've always wondered why McMahon wasn't in jail or at least suffering severe repercussions for all the negligence, ignorance, plausible deniability and sleazy tactics he used to exploit wrestlers' whole lives for decades.
 
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