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Occam's Nailfile		2012-06-25 03:34:36 AM

IlGreven: cmb53208: Yeah, becuase Jerry Sandusky is in the slammer for unpaid traffic tickets and missing a court date. I mean, it's not like he molested kids, right?

So where's the line? Assault and battery? Domestic abuse? Rape? Homicide?

Where is the line above which it's okay for other inmates to assault you?

When you hurt a kid. Easy game. Next question.

Any other crime could possibly, in some manner, be considered a grey area. Murder? Somebody might have needed killing. Rape? Lots of women cry rape when they haven't been raped. Property crime? Dude might be trying to feed his family.

Hurting a child is never, in any circumstance, ever justified, ever understandable, and the punishment should transcend simple conviction and imprisonment. Crimes against children are so horrific and evil that they should be held apart by all people as the lowest of the low, and the perpetrators should be subjected to the worst suffering imaginable. If we ever stop treating those who harm children as monsters, they will become more bold, their crimes more prevalent, and our society will farking collapse under the weight of a generation of formerly abused kids.

A Terrible Human		2012-06-25 03:37:18 AM

If only they would've sung that bit from Ones of These Days at him because if he's put in general pop that's probably what will happen to him.
/Didn't read the thread.

Genta		2012-06-25 03:44:00 AM

Occam's Nailfile:

Hurting a child is never, in any circumstance, ever justified, ever understandable, and the punishment should transcend simple conviction and imprisonment.

people like you are the reason toddlers cry like hell in restaurants. if parents didnt fear people like you judging them for spanking their kids.... just maybe their kids would be more in line and obedient.

spanking shouldnt be a frequent thing anyways... just once should be enough, and then anytime the kid is about to do something bad... remind them that theyll get spanked if they do it.

A Terrible Human		2012-06-25 03:44:06 AM

Occam's Nailfile: When you hurt a kid. Easy game. Next question.

This applies in womens prisons too according to a friend of mine who spent 26 years in one for murder. Shooting a guy over fake crack=alright. Sexually abusing or murdering children=You will get shanked to death eventually if you're not in protective custody because that seems to piss off the other inmates who would give anything to see their kids again.

Jim_Callahan		2012-06-25 04:42:30 AM

GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.

Um, execution was a major component of Jewish law (i.e. God's law). In fact it was the penalty for most of the first ten commandments that the Christians love to parade around, making the fact that the translation of the "don't kill" one is incorrect so blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain that they don't even need to look it up to know that it's wrong.

Christianity never had an issue with execution, war, dueling, etc either, that's a secular innovation from the 1600s that the church started altering doctrine to support in like the 1800s because they're always late to the party on any form of morals that doesn't involve lining their own pockets.

//Admittedly they always opposed hating the person you were executing/dueling/warring on/etc, so on behalf of hundreds of millions of dead people thanks a farking lot for that one, Christianity. Real helpful.

TaxiDriver		2012-06-25 05:43:50 AM

Sounds like this one time at band camp.....

Valiente		2012-06-25 05:46:59 AM

Nickster79: nekom: I'm surprised they didn't take him directly to PC.

Panama City?

Penis up colon?

PopeBadass		2012-06-25 06:56:18 AM

GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.

Soddam and Gemorrah, all the tribes slaughtered/ enslaved according to god's wishes by the israelittes, the army of philistines brought low by Samson as he swung the jaw of the ass... Do you want more? The commandment was originally "do not murder" and even then it was only meant to apply to the Jews and not the Gentiles, as in thou shall not murde a jew. Take the time to actually read exodus, then let us know where god stands on killing.

Pontious Pilates		2012-06-25 07:08:44 AM

redly1: jake_lex: I was hoping the song would be "Run Like Hell."

bah...I was hoping it would be Meat Sandwich by GWAR

Weak sauce. It should have been "Mother's Day" by Blink 182.

thamike		2012-06-25 07:21:49 AM

"Jail is pretty f*cking humiliating and crazy, huh Jerry?"

safetycap		2012-06-25 07:21:59 AM

TheMysticS		2012-06-25 07:56:36 AM

SoxSweepAgain: Lorelle: Another Brick in the Wall??

Welcome To The Machine would have been more appropriate:

Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline, filling in time,
Provided with toys and scouting for boys.

Came here to say this.

Wow, Fark never disappoints.

Same here.

TheMysticS		2012-06-25 08:06:03 AM

studebaker hoch: They should put him in the same cell as O.J. Simpson.

Together they could hunt for the real child molester.

/"If I diddled it"

Damn you!
Window seat, please. I enjoy seeing where I'm going.

vudukungfu		2012-06-25 08:17:51 AM

Soon, you pompus sunnuvabaitch.
Soon.

ronaprhys		2012-06-25 08:20:32 AM

TheMysticS		2012-06-25 08:27:49 AM

sleeps in trees: Jackal_N: sleeps in trees: Point, people will do anything to keep the status quo, to keep their standing in society. It takes an amazingly strong person to buck that for anyone else.

Sadly, organizations can be great enablers -- especially when they stand to gain from the a$$ociation.
Your courage is inspiring.

No courage, I'm just a really stubborn person that hates wrong. Sometimes when one rails against, it's just because they are dumbassed crazy and angry. Later it looks brilliant and wonderful and selfless.

No.
Courage.
Own it. You deserve to.
Inspiring. For realz.

Farkbert		2012-06-25 08:36:05 AM

Ok...I'm probably going to get roasted for saying this...but I do feel a little sorry for Sandusky. I mean...what he did to those kids was terrible, but imagine how differently things would have turned out if the people who should have put a stop to it did after the first incident? Not only would we have many fewer victims, but Sandusky himself would have been kept away from children for the rest of his life and wouldn't be in the predicament he is in now.

The guy is not right in the head. It was up to the other adults involved to stop this from happening...and their failure was the biggest crime, and the least punished.

//flame on...

Metaphysical Ham Sandwich		2012-06-25 08:43:23 AM

Farkbert: Ok...I'm probably going to get roasted for saying this...but I do feel a little sorry for Sandusky. I mean...what he did to those kids was terrible, but imagine how differently things would have turned out if the people who should have put a stop to it did after the first incident? Not only would we have many fewer victims, but Sandusky himself would have been kept away from children for the rest of his life and wouldn't be in the predicament he is in now.

The guy is not right in the head. It was up to the other adults involved to stop this from happening...and their failure was the biggest crime, and the least punished.

//flame on...

When humanity moves beyond concepts of free will and vengeance this post will be sensible. For now though, stfu hippy.

Aar1012		2012-06-25 08:47:33 AM

SithLord: GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.

Let's see how you react if your child gets raped by a trusted individual? What do you do? Let it slide? Just let it be held over and let the courts decide his punishment. Naturally you'll want revenge.

No, I wouldn't. I would seek help for my kid and let the courts handle it. How can I help my child if I'm in jail for getting revenge? I'm sorry, but an eye for an eye is not justice.

Two16		2012-06-25 08:47:56 AM

clyph: The_Sponge: I want this f*cker to suffer extreme pain, and I guarantee that those of us who feel that way have a billion times more humanity than he does.

And a billion times less humanity than those who don't have sadistic revenge fantasies.

He's locked in a cage and will remain so for the remainder of his life. Justice has been done and the threat has been neutralized. Unnecessary cruelty inflicted on helpless prisoners is immoral and unconscionable.

I wouldn't be opposed to the death penalty in his case, although I think that would be giving him the easy way out. That said, there's a big difference between a quick and painless death by lethal injection and something like being broken on the wheel.

It's called a JUSTICE system not a VENGEANCE system for a reason.

No, it's called the Legal System. Legal is not Justice.

MAYORBOB		2012-06-25 08:58:37 AM

Don't put Jerry in the hole. Jerry likes it in the hole.

bossip.files.wordpress.com

"Does this yellow frock make me look fat?"

wambu		2012-06-25 09:07:23 AM

He'll make so many new friends.

i.imgur.com

Lord Ranken		2012-06-25 09:11:23 AM

OH NO!!! don't link the pink with that jack-hole

wambu		2012-06-25 09:13:17 AM

My client's dick is about this big, so he could only have had sex with OctoMom or maybe this woman behind me to my left, but not some small boy with those tight butts we all know they have. This is a tragic miscarriage of justice. We will appeal.

Crewmannumber6		2012-06-25 09:19:05 AM

My name Is Luca? Even before I knew what it was about that song was torture to hear.

xxdangerbobxx		2012-06-25 09:19:29 AM

Lorelle: Another Brick in the Wall??

Welcome To The Machine would have been more appropriate:

Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline, filling in time,
Provided with toys and scouting for boys.

Maybe the inmates had taste.

nekom		2012-06-25 09:21:49 AM

jst3p: PC and solitary confinement are not the same thing.

What's the difference? Both are 23 hours a day in solitary confinement aren't they? Maybe he'll be allowed some privileges not afforded to those in the hole, but he'll still be isolated. If it's any consolation to his victims and their families, no matter what the case this man is NOT going to be having a good time in prison at all.

Waldo Pepper		2012-06-25 09:29:26 AM

nekom: jst3p: PC and solitary confinement are not the same thing.

What's the difference? Both are 23 hours a day in solitary confinement aren't they? Maybe he'll be allowed some privileges not afforded to those in the hole, but he'll still be isolated. If it's any consolation to his victims and their families, no matter what the case this man is NOT going to be having a good time in prison at all.

heck he is in a prison with a bunch of men, not much different than a football team and locker room. After a while he will befriend the guards, they will start talking football and it will be like hanging out with the boys. (yes i'm making it light) if they really want to punish him they should put him in the female prison the cat calls coming from the women will be much worse then anything from the men.

ox45tallboy		2012-06-25 09:33:19 AM

IlGreven: ox45tallboy: This was an employee reporting a criminal action which took place in an area directly under Paterno's supervision. Your analogy is like saying, "Those officers in the military shouldn't be held responsible for the rape of female soldiers that took place on their base. All they had to go on was someone telling them it was occurring."

...and if that's all those officers had to go on? No other evidence comes up? Only hearsay?

Then the military is on the receiving end of a defamation suit brought up by the "alleged" rapists.

Then you're incompetent when it comes to carrying out an investigation and deserve to lose your job.

Look, there was plenty of evidence that Sandusky had showered alone with boys on the campus on multiple occasions. That alone should send up huge red flags. Add to that an eyewitness that says he saw sexual activity, and that's enough to initiate a criminal investigation. This didn't happen, because it would have made the school look bad.

For all of you apologists, get real. If the people in charge at Sandusky's charity and Penn State didn't know, they definitely should have known. This just isn't the sort of thing you can allow to go on under your watch. Saying, "Well, we thought it was normal for a grown man to shower alone with young boys" and "We thought it was normal for a grown man to visit a kid's hotel room alone late at night" makes you sound ignorant and idealistic. IT'S NOT FREAKING NORMAL. Grown men DO NOT DO THIS. Penn State knew he was showering alone with little boys. Sandusky's charity knew he was visiting the kids' hotel rooms late at night alone. They did NOTHING to stop this, for purely selfish motivations - i.e., it would make their respective organizations look bad if it became public knowledge that it had happened on their watch.

ha-ha-guy		2012-06-25 09:37:18 AM

Weaver95: 2wolves: Weaver95: almost cult like

In high school we had a PSU scout show for a game and every mother in the stands appeared eager to blow him if he'd watch their kid's highlight VHS tape.

it's difficult to explain to non-central Pa people just how pervasive and fanatical PSU football is in these parts. Right or wrong, Sandusky seems to be getting all the blame for tarnishing the good name of Penn State football....that's kind of not a good place to be right now.

The idea seems to be to sacrifice Sandusky as some kind of lone wolf predator. Then PSU acts like it paid its due to society and everyone sticks their head in the ground for the prejury trials.

plewis		2012-06-25 09:38:25 AM

I'm betting on suicide, especially after all the appeals get shot down.

apeman12		2012-06-25 09:46:59 AM

I admit to not reading them all, but I suspect Sandusky is going to wish he was Comfortably Numb.

Waldo Pepper		2012-06-25 09:52:03 AM

ox45tallboy: IlGreven: ox45tallboy: This was an employee reporting a criminal action which took place in an area directly under Paterno's supervision. Your analogy is like saying, "Those officers in the military shouldn't be held responsible for the rape of female soldiers that took place on their base. All they had to go on was someone telling them it was occurring."

...and if that's all those officers had to go on? No other evidence comes up? Only hearsay?

Then the military is on the receiving end of a defamation suit brought up by the "alleged" rapists.

Then you're incompetent when it comes to carrying out an investigation and deserve to lose your job.

Look, there was plenty of evidence that Sandusky had showered alone with boys on the campus on multiple occasions. That alone should send up huge red flags. Add to that an eyewitness that says he saw sexual activity, and that's enough to initiate a criminal investigation. This didn't happen, because it would have made the school look bad.

For all of you apologists, get real. If the people in charge at Sandusky's charity and Penn State didn't know, they definitely should have known. This just isn't the sort of thing you can allow to go on under your watch. Saying, "Well, we thought it was normal for a grown man to shower alone with young boys" and "We thought it was normal for a grown man to visit a kid's hotel room alone late at night" makes you sound ignorant and idealistic. IT'S NOT FREAKING NORMAL. Grown men DO NOT DO THIS. Penn State knew he was showering alone with little boys. Sandusky's charity knew he was visiting the kids' hotel rooms late at night alone. They did NOTHING to stop this, for purely selfish motivations - i.e., it would make their respective organizations look bad if it became public knowledge that it had happened on their watch.

I don't doubt in this case that there had to be a few folks turning a blind eye to what was going on and should have stopped it. I tend to believe JoePa was shielded from most it or really had no clue how serious it was, maybe due to age and time at the same job it become easy to be fooled.

years ago I worked at Sears and there was a former marine (20 years of service) working there, heck of a guy always helping everyone, very reliable, customer loved him. Was caught doing bogus refunds on batteries and over the course of a year stoled $10,000 in cash in refunds. Not a single person in that store had a clue he was doing it. now after he was caught it was easy to put together all the little things and to think loss prevention and the managers should have known. hindsight is 20/20.

not saying bogus refunds are the same as this crime.

Lord Ranken		2012-06-25 09:54:42 AM

apeman12: I admit to not reading them all, but I suspect Sandusky is going to wish he was Comfortably Numb.

I don't want him comfortable or numb let him feel it all for a long long time

Two16		2012-06-25 10:14:10 AM

IlGreven: Waldo Pepper: lets be honest in today's media, if this wasn't true and it got out everyone is ruined.

It didn't matter if it was true or not. JoePa was ruined, despite having the least guilt of everyone involved.

The world's smallest violin plays for him. No... really.

Waldo Pepper		2012-06-25 10:28:27 AM

Two16: IlGreven: Waldo Pepper: lets be honest in today's media, if this wasn't true and it got out everyone is ruined.

It didn't matter if it was true or not. JoePa was ruined, despite having the least guilt of everyone involved.

The world's smallest violin plays for him. No... really.

i would think it would play for Sandusky. Joe is dead he can't hear it

Marine1		2012-06-25 10:36:36 AM

Damn. I wish I had thought of it. Way to go, convicts.

Waldo Pepper		2012-06-25 10:37:48 AM

Marine1: Damn. I wish I had thought of it. Way to go, convicts.

how great it would be to have a video of it.

Two16		2012-06-25 10:40:30 AM

Waldo Pepper: Two16: IlGreven: Waldo Pepper: lets be honest in today's media, if this wasn't true and it got out everyone is ruined.

It didn't matter if it was true or not. JoePa was ruined, despite having the least guilt of everyone involved.

The world's smallest violin plays for him. No... really.

i would think it would play for Sandusky. Joe is dead he can't hear it

i47.tinypic.com

And/or you're just plain stupid/a troll.

LL316		2012-06-25 10:44:16 AM

Genta: Occam's Nailfile:

Hurting a child is never, in any circumstance, ever justified, ever understandable, and the punishment should transcend simple conviction and imprisonment.

people like you are the reason toddlers cry like hell in restaurants. if parents didnt fear people like you judging them for spanking their kids.... just maybe their kids would be more in line and obedient.

spanking shouldnt be a frequent thing anyways... just once should be enough, and then anytime the kid is about to do something bad... remind them that theyll get spanked if they do it.

I think (hope) the OP meant real hurting (as in ow, get that out of my ass) and not just regular pop them on (not in) the ass.

Waldo Pepper		2012-06-25 10:45:06 AM

Two16: Waldo Pepper: Two16: IlGreven: Waldo Pepper: lets be honest in today's media, if this wasn't true and it got out everyone is ruined.

It didn't matter if it was true or not. JoePa was ruined, despite having the least guilt of everyone involved.

The world's smallest violin plays for him. No... really.

i would think it would play for Sandusky. Joe is dead he can't hear it

[i47.tinypic.com image 285x301]

And/or you're just plain stupid/a troll.

Yawns

STRYPERSWINE		2012-06-25 10:46:48 AM

GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.

"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck."

Waldo Pepper		2012-06-25 10:51:38 AM

LL316: Genta: Occam's Nailfile:

Hurting a child is never, in any circumstance, ever justified, ever understandable, and the punishment should transcend simple conviction and imprisonment.

people like you are the reason toddlers cry like hell in restaurants. if parents didnt fear people like you judging them for spanking their kids.... just maybe their kids would be more in line and obedient.

spanking shouldnt be a frequent thing anyways... just once should be enough, and then anytime the kid is about to do something bad... remind them that theyll get spanked if they do it.

I think (hope) the OP meant real hurting (as in ow, get that out of my ass) and not just regular pop them on (not in) the ass.

Occam's Nailfile: IlGreven: cmb53208: Yeah, becuase Jerry Sandusky is in the slammer for unpaid traffic tickets and missing a court date. I mean, it's not like he molested kids, right?

So where's the line? Assault and battery? Domestic abuse? Rape? Homicide?

Where is the line above which it's okay for other inmates to assault you?

When you hurt a kid. Easy game. Next question.

Any other crime could possibly, in some manner, be considered a grey area. Murder? Somebody might have needed killing. Rape? Lots of women cry rape when they haven't been raped. Property crime? Dude might be trying to feed his family.

Hurting a child is never, in any circumstance, ever justified, ever understandable, and the punishment should transcend simple conviction and imprisonment.

wrong on both counts, there are instances in wwii where mother's of newborns had to suffocate their babies to prevent them from crying and giving away the location where everyone was hiding. Justified and understandable.

but I understand your point.

HAMMERTOE		2012-06-25 10:52:06 AM

GAT_00: Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.

You need to go back and re-read your Old Testament. As an atheist, even I know this not to be true. The Old Testament is rife with Rules of Engagement, which govern over the war-like tribe of Israel. Taking slaves, concubines, who it's permissible to kill; it's all there.

Example-

Exodus 21:12:
He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

Another example-

Numbers 35:16:
And if he smite him with an instrument of iron, so that he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.

Waldo Pepper		2012-06-25 10:52:38 AM

STRYPERSWINE: GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.

"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck."

how is being the victim of rape a sin?

mytdawg		2012-06-25 10:56:29 AM

Years ago we had a case where the owner of a BMX track had taken advantage of some of the little boys and got sent to prison.

Whether it was the legend that prison doesn't cotton well to pedos and rapists or he pissed somebody off, he didn't get to finish out his sentence. Someone decided capital punishment was best and he was stabbed to death.

gunther_bumpass		2012-06-25 10:57:48 AM

Waldo Pepper: Two16: Waldo Pepper: Two16: IlGreven: Waldo Pepper: lets be honest in today's media, if this wasn't true and it got out everyone is ruined.

It didn't matter if it was true or not. JoePa was ruined, despite having the least guilt of everyone involved.

The world's smallest violin plays for him. No... really.

i would think it would play for Sandusky. Joe is dead he can't hear it

[i47.tinypic.com image 285x301]

And/or you're just plain stupid/a troll.

Yawns

/takes advantage of the opportunity to shove a wrinkly old dick in your mouth

Waldo Pepper		2012-06-25 11:00:12 AM

gunther_bumpass: Waldo Pepper: Two16: Waldo Pepper: Two16: IlGreven: Waldo Pepper: lets be honest in today's media, if this wasn't true and it got out everyone is ruined.

It didn't matter if it was true or not. JoePa was ruined, despite having the least guilt of everyone involved.

The world's smallest violin plays for him. No... really.

i would think it would play for Sandusky. Joe is dead he can't hear it

[i47.tinypic.com image 285x301]

And/or you're just plain stupid/a troll.

Yawns

/takes advantage of the opportunity to shove a wrinkly old dick in your mouth

and the only difference between you and Sandusky is what, age of who you take advantage of and sodomize?

Orgasmatron138		2012-06-25 11:02:11 AM

The almighty JoePa testified to the grand jury that he knew what was going on in 2002. Yes, he reported it to his superiors. Once. For ten years after that, he was cool with Jerry bringing kids around the Penn State campus.

There is clearly a difference between moral and legal obligation here. He did the bare minimum according to legal standards, but failed miserably in meeting his moral obligations. That goes tenfold for a guy who has made his sainthood as not just a football coach, but a leader of young men.

Now that Sandusky is rotting in prison, the Feds can focus on the cover up. It's already known that there were several businesses that connected JoePa and other school officials to the Second Mile program. They all had a lot to lose financially if Jerry were found out.

Source for business deals: http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/12/05/120511-news-paterno-business-1 -5/