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(Deadspin)   Inmates serenade Jerry Sandusky with Pink Floyd as he enters jail   (deadspin.com) divider line 409
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2012-06-25 02:08:36 AM  

Weaver95: that said, prison can be a very brutal place. this was a high profile case, and Sandusky disgraced a popular (almost cult like) football program. He's in a very bad place right now and unless he's protected from his fellow inmates it is likely he won't survive to serve out his sentence.


He raped little boys and got JoePa fired.

Without PC, he won't make the weekend.
 
2012-06-25 02:10:43 AM  

evaned: An interesting question though, from someone who's is undecided what Paterno's legacy should be at PSU. (Remember, he's responsible for more than football there -- e.g. a significant addition to the University's main library is named after him after he arranged a fundraising drive and gave several million for it.)

How many people screaming that Paterno's name should be erased from places of honor at PSU think that the US founding fathers should be erased from their positions of provenance because they owned slaves? How much does an evil act undo good ones?


That's not apples to apples because, unfortunately, slavery was accepted and even encouraged in America's earliest days. Child rape is both morally repugnant and against the law when PSU allowed Sandusky free reign to use the campus as his rapey playground.

It's like saying the Romans were evil because the men consorted with young boys. By today's point of view? Sure. By the point of view of their own time? Not so much.

Also, please don't confuse my argument as excusing the founding fathers owning slaves or Roman men who took to little boys. I'm not excusing anything, just saying it's not an even comparison.
 
2012-06-25 02:11:36 AM  

OgreMagi: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.

Oh, quit your ranting and drooling.

Just add him to your ignore list like everyone else. I wouldn't have even seen his post if you hadn't quoted him. I see he's talking about his benevolent god that hates killing. That same god that killed people for trivial transgressions and committed genocide a few times.


Didn't God say to David that you are a man after my own heart but there is too much blood on your hands to build my temple? (they sang songs that King David was the killer of thousands and thousands in hand to hand combat).
 
2012-06-25 02:13:14 AM  

ox45tallboy: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 585x436]


Of course not. They haven't spotted everyone who doesn't think that Paterno is burning in hell, so the witch hunt continues.
 
2012-06-25 02:13:25 AM  

evaned: An interesting question though, from someone who's is undecided what Paterno's legacy should be at PSU. (Remember, he's responsible for more than football there -- e.g. a significant addition to the University's main library is named after him after he arranged a fundraising drive and gave several million for it.)

How many people screaming that Paterno's name should be erased from places of honor at PSU think that the US founding fathers should be erased from their positions of provenance because they owned slaves? How much does an evil act undo good ones?


Founding a nation that has lasted over 200 years ≠ football. Slavery at the time was accepted although wrong. Child rape by football coaches never has been accepted as far as I know.

My only issues is can anyone that has gotten this much publicity get a fair trial? I would hope so. I didn't see any of the evidence so I hope that the jury made the right decision.
 
2012-06-25 02:18:11 AM  

Pharque-it: Uchiha_Cycliste: It's worth noting being a good and loyal employee like Joe Pa has *nothing* to do with being a good or evil human.

Just like a Nazi camp guard then? I see....


no, this almost couldn't be less appropriate if you tried.
 
2012-06-25 02:20:30 AM  

cloud_van_dame: COMALite J: If your next-door neighbor tells you that he saw the neighbor across the street molest a child, but you yourself never saw any such thing, is the onus on you or your next-door neighbor to report it to the authorities?

If the neighbor across the street is your employee, at bare minimum you should do an investigation. And if something is amiss, you report it to the authorities.


Yep, an investigation on hearsay from a probable busybody. Hope you have cash to pay your lawyers for the defamation suit if the neighbor across the street finds out.
 
2012-06-25 02:23:21 AM  

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Oh shiat Spiderman, how do I stopped rape?


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this guy has a creepily symmetrical face.

Also, for those of you still defending paterno - give me a farking break. If some son of a biatch is molesting kids under your watch, the very least you do is not let the SOB within a mile of your farking locker rooms. No passes, no tickets to games. He's OUT. If a guy that worked for me said - "hey uh.. I saw Jerry screwing a kid in the showers the other day", I wouldn't just tell my boss and cross him off the christmas card list, I'd call the farking police. What the fark is wrong with you people?
 
2012-06-25 02:23:25 AM  

Owangotang: Also, please don't confuse my argument as excusing the founding fathers owning slaves or Roman men who took to little boys. I'm not excusing anything, just saying it's not an even comparison.


I'm not really trying to say it's an even comparison per se, just something to think about.

But to play Devil's Advocate for a second:

There are also a lot of things in favor of Paterno too. By modern standards, Paterno's offense was (I'd argue) miniscule in comparison.

Hell, even Sandusky's offenses were. Given the choice between being raped by Sandusky and being enslaved, I'd go with the rape, so I consider each individual act of Sandusky's to be less than each act. And then the sheer numbers aren't in favor either. There were, what, 8 kids on the trial? Let's say that Sandusky molested ten times that number -- 80 kids. Washington (the first I looked up) "owned" three hundred slaves. (Specifically, "over three-hundred African-American slaves lived at Mount Vernon." That may even be just at the time of his death, which means more cycled through if you look over the course of his life.)

And Paterno is a step removed from that.

And sure, saying that slavery was accepted at the time is a reasonable counterpoint. But when it comes to "Child rape is both morally repugnant and against the law when PSU allowed Sandusky free reign to use the campus as his rapey playground", I'm not convinced 2002 is the right time to measure by when looking at JoePa's moral culpability; it also be reasonable to think about what thinks were like in, say, the 50s. What was the environment like then? I don't know. Maybe this is a ridiculous argument and it was just as much a terrible act then as it is now. Or maybe cases like Sandusky's were commonly swept under the rug then.

Of course, the other side of this coin is that even though the evils of Paterno are far less than the evils of Washington by modern standards, so were the good acts -- helped found a great country (despite its faults) vs donated money for a library.

But yeah, I dunno. It's something to think about.
 
2012-06-25 02:27:09 AM  

ox45tallboy: This was an employee reporting a criminal action which took place in an area directly under Paterno's supervision. Your analogy is like saying, "Those officers in the military shouldn't be held responsible for the rape of female soldiers that took place on their base. All they had to go on was someone telling them it was occurring."


...and if that's all those officers had to go on? No other evidence comes up? Only hearsay?

Then the military is on the receiving end of a defamation suit brought up by the "alleged" rapists.
 
2012-06-25 02:30:44 AM  

Waldo Pepper: lets be honest in today's media, if this wasn't true and it got out everyone is ruined.


It didn't matter if it was true or not. JoePa was ruined, despite having the least guilt of everyone involved.
 
2012-06-25 02:32:33 AM  

cmb53208: Yeah, becuase Jerry Sandusky is in the slammer for unpaid traffic tickets and missing a court date. I mean, it's not like he molested kids, right?


So where's the line? Assault and battery? Domestic abuse? Rape? Homicide?

Where is the line above which it's okay for other inmates to assault you?
 
2012-06-25 02:37:11 AM  

Weaver95: GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.

that said, prison can be a very brutal place. this was a high profile case, and Sandusky disgraced a popular (almost cult like) football program. He's in a very bad place right now and unless he's protected from his fellow inmates it is likely he won't survive to serve out his sentence.


Given the nature of his crimes and the scope of the damage done, I am OK with this.
 
2012-06-25 02:38:45 AM  

Lorelle: Another Brick in the Wall??

Welcome To The Machine would have been more appropriate:

Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline, filling in time,
Provided with toys and scouting for boys.


Thats what I expected. Would have made much more sense.
 
2012-06-25 02:38:47 AM  

evaned:
And sure, saying that slavery was accepted at the time is a reasonable counterpoint. But when it comes to "Child rape is both morally repugnant and against the law when PSU allowed Sandusky free reign to use the campus as his rapey playground", I'm not convinced 2002 is the right time to measure by when looking at JoePa's moral culpability; it also be reasonable to think about what thinks were like in, say, the 50s. What was the environment like then? I don't know.


Well, by that metric I guess it would be ok if, into the 2000's, Joe Paterno made black people ride in the back of the bus and went out on weekends to beat the crap out of queers. Seriously.. you guys defending Paterno sound like farking idiots.
 
2012-06-25 02:39:39 AM  

IlGreven: cmb53208: Yeah, becuase Jerry Sandusky is in the slammer for unpaid traffic tickets and missing a court date. I mean, it's not like he molested kids, right?

So where's the line? Assault and battery? Domestic abuse? Rape? Homicide?

Where is the line above which it's okay for other inmates to assault you?


Somewhere between "simple assault" and "stole the innocence of children and many of them will be broken for life".

There is a reason that among inmates, child molesters are considered less than equals.
 
2012-06-25 02:41:04 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: BSABSVR: Woo! Today's thread where everyone shows how disgusted they are by rapists by concocting incredibly elaborate rape fantasies

Yeah, and don't forget about the self-important pseudointellectuals who put themselves up above all that by making fun of them...


He wasn't making fun. He was showing honest contempt. And if not, I am. Internet vigilantes. So cool.
 
2012-06-25 02:43:29 AM  

Mugato: nekom: Protective custody. Same thing as the hole, except instead of being bad to get there, you have to be hated. Known gang members and high profile inmates are often kept in solitary confinement so they don't get shanked in the general population.

I thought all child molesters were a target for violence in prison, why would he get special treatment?


Maybe because he was incarcerated under the rule of law, which must be upheld by the rest of us that adhere to it.
 
2012-06-25 02:46:22 AM  

Mugato: nekom: Protective custody. Same thing as the hole, except instead of being bad to get there, you have to be hated. Known gang members and high profile inmates are often kept in solitary confinement so they don't get shanked in the general population.

I thought all child molesters were a target for violence in prison, why would he get special treatment?


PC and solitary confinement are not the same thing.
 
2012-06-25 02:50:02 AM  

Generation_D: Weaver95: 2wolves:

Of course the faithful are looking for a Judas. Who could be more of a blame target than a rapist of children?

there's a LOT of hate focused on Sandusky.

How do the central PA faithful reconcile the fact that Joe knew for 15 years and did nothing, that multiple reports to police and admin went nowhere, and in a small town where literally dozens of people had to have heard rumors, everything was business as usual for years? How do they reconcile Joe letting Sandusky stay with campus privileges even after being forced to resign in 2002?


As far as I'm concerned Joe P. was probably involved. I live in NEPA. As a disclaimer, I hate sports. I can't really be unbiased. But Patterno definately touched the boys!
 
2012-06-25 02:54:14 AM  

gunther_bumpass: Well, by that metric I guess it would be ok if, into the 2000's, Joe Paterno made black people ride in the back of the bus and went out on weekends to beat the crap out of queers. Seriously.. you guys defending Paterno sound like farking idiots.


Read my posts... I'm not really defending Paterno, at least I don't think I am. Nor did I say it would be right if he did that -- just that (if it is true that Sanduskys were swept under the rug) it would absolve him of some of his moral culpability.

Just like the fact that slavery was common at the time of the founding fathers absolves them of some of their moral culpability for holding them. Unless you think it doesn't, in which case I hope you spit on their graves every chance you get.

His inaction about Sandusky is a huge blow to his stature, and rightly so. I'm more asking... is that blow really big enough to forget about the good things he did? And it is sort of a question. I'm not really looking for an answer, but nor do I think I have one.
 
2012-06-25 02:58:56 AM  

IlGreven: cloud_van_dame: COMALite J: If your next-door neighbor tells you that he saw the neighbor across the street molest a child, but you yourself never saw any such thing, is the onus on you or your next-door neighbor to report it to the authorities?

If the neighbor across the street is your employee, at bare minimum you should do an investigation. And if something is amiss, you report it to the authorities.

Yep, an investigation on hearsay from a probable busybody. Hope you have cash to pay your lawyers for the defamation suit if the neighbor across the street finds out.


You don't think investigations never ever start on the word of a third party? For example if my neighbor comes to me and said he saw the guy at the end of the block raping a kids, but doesn't want to get involved, and I decide to tell the police what he told me, do you think the cops are going to say "Hold on there buddy, that's hearsay, you can leave right now with that!" No

No. What they will do, especially if it is a serious crime, is go and talk to the person who I said told me. Then they will decide if a further investigation is warranted from there.
 
2012-06-25 03:05:12 AM  

ox45tallboy: AbbeySomeone: I'm sure the fact that there are no top 40 hits that detail s ex abuse by preadtorial football coaches upon vulnerable charity kids doesn't matter. Give them points for improv and STFU or compose something more appropriate.


Well put
 
2012-06-25 03:07:25 AM  

ongbok: IlGreven: cloud_van_dame: COMALite J: If your next-door neighbor tells you that he saw the neighbor across the street molest a child, but you yourself never saw any such thing, is the onus on you or your next-door neighbor to report it to the authorities?

If the neighbor across the street is your employee, at bare minimum you should do an investigation. And if something is amiss, you report it to the authorities.

Yep, an investigation on hearsay from a probable busybody. Hope you have cash to pay your lawyers for the defamation suit if the neighbor across the street finds out.

You don't think investigations never ever start on the word of a third party? For example if my neighbor comes to me and said he saw the guy at the end of the block raping a kids, but doesn't want to get involved, and I decide to tell the police what he told me, do you think the cops are going to say "Hold on there buddy, that's hearsay, you can leave right now with that!" No

No. What they will do, especially if it is a serious crime, is go and talk to the person who I said told me. Then they will decide if a further investigation is warranted from there.


Come on, now. If your neighbor tells you that he saw another neighbor raping a child, you're supposed to wait until Monday (so you don't ruin his weekend) and then call your boss.
 
2012-06-25 03:28:01 AM  

douchebag/hater: I can assure you that there are not 2.5 billion people practicing Christianity. There wouldn't be child worker suicides in a totalitarian state if there were. Nor would the most profitable corporation in the world be driving those workers to suicide.

I put the number closer to 13 or 14. 17 tops.

Your attempt at, well, your attempt at whatever it is your trying to post falls short of being understandable. But thanks for calling!

I will say this: the number is around 1 billion, same for Islam and Hindi.


We're at about 7 billion people and about 35% self-identify as Christian. So, yeah, 2.3ish billion would be appropriate methinks.
 
2012-06-25 03:34:36 AM  

IlGreven: cmb53208: Yeah, becuase Jerry Sandusky is in the slammer for unpaid traffic tickets and missing a court date. I mean, it's not like he molested kids, right?

So where's the line? Assault and battery? Domestic abuse? Rape? Homicide?

Where is the line above which it's okay for other inmates to assault you?


When you hurt a kid. Easy game. Next question.

Any other crime could possibly, in some manner, be considered a grey area. Murder? Somebody might have needed killing. Rape? Lots of women cry rape when they haven't been raped. Property crime? Dude might be trying to feed his family.

Hurting a child is never, in any circumstance, ever justified, ever understandable, and the punishment should transcend simple conviction and imprisonment. Crimes against children are so horrific and evil that they should be held apart by all people as the lowest of the low, and the perpetrators should be subjected to the worst suffering imaginable. If we ever stop treating those who harm children as monsters, they will become more bold, their crimes more prevalent, and our society will farking collapse under the weight of a generation of formerly abused kids.
 
2012-06-25 03:37:18 AM  
If only they would've sung that bit from Ones of These Days at him because if he's put in general pop that's probably what will happen to him.
/Didn't read the thread.
 
2012-06-25 03:44:00 AM  

Occam's Nailfile:

Hurting a child is never, in any circumstance, ever justified, ever understandable, and the punishment should transcend simple conviction and imprisonment.


people like you are the reason toddlers cry like hell in restaurants. if parents didnt fear people like you judging them for spanking their kids.... just maybe their kids would be more in line and obedient.

spanking shouldnt be a frequent thing anyways... just once should be enough, and then anytime the kid is about to do something bad... remind them that theyll get spanked if they do it.
 
2012-06-25 03:44:06 AM  

Occam's Nailfile: When you hurt a kid. Easy game. Next question.


This applies in womens prisons too according to a friend of mine who spent 26 years in one for murder. Shooting a guy over fake crack=alright. Sexually abusing or murdering children=You will get shanked to death eventually if you're not in protective custody because that seems to piss off the other inmates who would give anything to see their kids again.
 
2012-06-25 04:42:30 AM  

GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.


Um, execution was a major component of Jewish law (i.e. God's law). In fact it was the penalty for most of the first ten commandments that the Christians love to parade around, making the fact that the translation of the "don't kill" one is incorrect so blindingly obvious to anyone with half a brain that they don't even need to look it up to know that it's wrong.

Christianity never had an issue with execution, war, dueling, etc either, that's a secular innovation from the 1600s that the church started altering doctrine to support in like the 1800s because they're always late to the party on any form of morals that doesn't involve lining their own pockets.

//Admittedly they always opposed hating the person you were executing/dueling/warring on/etc, so on behalf of hundreds of millions of dead people thanks a farking lot for that one, Christianity. Real helpful.
 
2012-06-25 05:43:50 AM  
Sounds like this one time at band camp.....
 
2012-06-25 05:46:59 AM  

Nickster79: nekom: I'm surprised they didn't take him directly to PC.

Panama City?


Penis up colon?
 
2012-06-25 06:56:18 AM  

GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.


Soddam and Gemorrah, all the tribes slaughtered/ enslaved according to god's wishes by the israelittes, the army of philistines brought low by Samson as he swung the jaw of the ass... Do you want more? The commandment was originally "do not murder" and even then it was only meant to apply to the Jews and not the Gentiles, as in thou shall not murde a jew. Take the time to actually read exodus, then let us know where god stands on killing.
 
2012-06-25 07:08:44 AM  

redly1: jake_lex: I was hoping the song would be "Run Like Hell."

bah...I was hoping it would be Meat Sandwich by GWAR


Weak sauce. It should have been "Mother's Day" by Blink 182.
 
2012-06-25 07:21:49 AM  
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"Jail is pretty f*cking humiliating and crazy, huh Jerry?"
 
2012-06-25 07:21:59 AM  
i651.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-25 07:56:36 AM  

SoxSweepAgain: Lorelle: Another Brick in the Wall??

Welcome To The Machine would have been more appropriate:

Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline, filling in time,
Provided with toys and scouting for boys.

Came here to say this.

Wow, Fark never disappoints.


Same here.
 
2012-06-25 08:06:03 AM  

studebaker hoch: They should put him in the same cell as O.J. Simpson.

Together they could hunt for the real child molester.

/"If I diddled it"


Damn you!
Window seat, please. I enjoy seeing where I'm going.
 
2012-06-25 08:17:51 AM  
Soon, you pompus sunnuvabaitch.
Soon.
 
2012-06-25 08:20:32 AM  

GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.


Good troll.
 
2012-06-25 08:27:49 AM  

sleeps in trees: Jackal_N: sleeps in trees: Point, people will do anything to keep the status quo, to keep their standing in society. It takes an amazingly strong person to buck that for anyone else.

Sadly, organizations can be great enablers -- especially when they stand to gain from the a$$ociation.
Your courage is inspiring.

No courage, I'm just a really stubborn person that hates wrong. Sometimes when one rails against, it's just because they are dumbassed crazy and angry. Later it looks brilliant and wonderful and selfless.


No.
Courage.
Own it. You deserve to.
Inspiring. For realz.
 
2012-06-25 08:36:05 AM  
Ok...I'm probably going to get roasted for saying this...but I do feel a little sorry for Sandusky. I mean...what he did to those kids was terrible, but imagine how differently things would have turned out if the people who should have put a stop to it did after the first incident? Not only would we have many fewer victims, but Sandusky himself would have been kept away from children for the rest of his life and wouldn't be in the predicament he is in now.

The guy is not right in the head. It was up to the other adults involved to stop this from happening...and their failure was the biggest crime, and the least punished.

//flame on...
 
2012-06-25 08:43:23 AM  

Farkbert: Ok...I'm probably going to get roasted for saying this...but I do feel a little sorry for Sandusky. I mean...what he did to those kids was terrible, but imagine how differently things would have turned out if the people who should have put a stop to it did after the first incident? Not only would we have many fewer victims, but Sandusky himself would have been kept away from children for the rest of his life and wouldn't be in the predicament he is in now.

The guy is not right in the head. It was up to the other adults involved to stop this from happening...and their failure was the biggest crime, and the least punished.

//flame on...


When humanity moves beyond concepts of free will and vengeance this post will be sensible. For now though, stfu hippy.
 
2012-06-25 08:47:33 AM  

SithLord: GAT_00: And it's time once again for people who claim to be human to abandon their humanity for their version of "justice." Justice does not involve death, and it never has. Even God said so. Funny that Christians forget that.


Let's see how you react if your child gets raped by a trusted individual? What do you do? Let it slide? Just let it be held over and let the courts decide his punishment. Naturally you'll want revenge.


No, I wouldn't. I would seek help for my kid and let the courts handle it. How can I help my child if I'm in jail for getting revenge? I'm sorry, but an eye for an eye is not justice.
 
2012-06-25 08:47:56 AM  

clyph: The_Sponge: I want this f*cker to suffer extreme pain, and I guarantee that those of us who feel that way have a billion times more humanity than he does.

And a billion times less humanity than those who don't have sadistic revenge fantasies.

He's locked in a cage and will remain so for the remainder of his life. Justice has been done and the threat has been neutralized. Unnecessary cruelty inflicted on helpless prisoners is immoral and unconscionable.

I wouldn't be opposed to the death penalty in his case, although I think that would be giving him the easy way out. That said, there's a big difference between a quick and painless death by lethal injection and something like being broken on the wheel.

It's called a JUSTICE system not a VENGEANCE system for a reason.


No, it's called the Legal System. Legal is not Justice.
 
2012-06-25 08:58:37 AM  
Don't put Jerry in the hole. Jerry likes it in the hole.

bossip.files.wordpress.com

"Does this yellow frock make me look fat?"
 
2012-06-25 09:07:23 AM  
He'll make so many new friends.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-25 09:11:23 AM  
OH NO!!! don't link the pink with that jack-hole
 
2012-06-25 09:13:17 AM  
i.imgur.com

My client's dick is about this big, so he could only have had sex with OctoMom or maybe this woman behind me to my left, but not some small boy with those tight butts we all know they have. This is a tragic miscarriage of justice. We will appeal.
 
2012-06-25 09:19:05 AM  
My name Is Luca? Even before I knew what it was about that song was torture to hear.
 
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