I'll just get it over with and say what everyone thinks but is too scared to say:

Nobody gives a shiat about women's sports because women are inferior athletes* and schools should be allowed to spend money on sports programs based on the revenue those programs generate and nothing else.

*Womens' world track and field records across the board are equivalent to the world records for 14-15 year-old male athletes

ZoSo_the_Crowe: *Womens' world track and field records across the board are equivalent to the world records for 14-15 year-old male athletes

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Yeah yeah, I know,

>NRO

So much fail....

And finally, for the sake of comedy:

Women

Men

Since it it Title IX



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Harry_Seldon: Since it it Title IX

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so you're saying you support titties ix?

ZoSo_the_Crowe: Nobody gives a shiat about women's sports because women are inferior athletes* and schools should be allowed to spend money on sports programs based on the revenue those programs generate and nothing else.

I agree with you that women are, for the most part, inferior athletes.* But I disagree with the the idea we should withdraw funding because of that. The goal of sports isn't just to train good athletes. That's why a lot of schools have JV divisions: pretty much everyone can compete regardless of athletic ability.

I mean, really, should we stop funding remedial math education because those kids are never going get a chance to design a space shuttle? We don't pick just the best kids to study math because it's extremely useful. Likewise, participation in a sport is extremely useful.

*though interestingly, while women have awful track and field records, they compete head-on with men in ultrarunning.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: Nobody gives a shiat about women's sports because women are inferior athletes* and schools should be allowed to spend money on sports programs based on the revenue those programs generate and nothing else.

That would also eliminate most men's sports. A few large football and basketball programs would survive and that's it.

Plus, you'd pretty much wipe out every academic program except the very few that bring in grants.

Just what exactly do you think college is supposed to be?

ZoSo_the_Crowe: And finally, for the sake of comedy:

Women

Men

That has less to do with athletic ability and more to do with being a woman driver.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: I'll just get it over with and say what everyone thinks but is too scared to say:

Nobody gives a shiat about women's sports because women are inferior athletes* and schools should be allowed to spend money on sports programs based on the revenue those programs generate and nothing else.

*Womens' world track and field records across the board are equivalent to the world records for 14-15 year-old male athletes

Yeah, but do 14-15 year-old male athletes have asses like this?

carnifex2005: Yeah, but do 14-15 year-old male athletes have asses like this?

No, but that didn't seem to concern Jerry Sandusky.

carnifex2005: Yeah, but do 14-15 year-old male athletes have asses like this?

At some point I'm going to have to find myself some nice athletic girl ass. I've always thought that dating a track and field woman would be difficult, because they are either conditioned to go for a long time, finish in about 10 seconds, or can crush a coconut with their thighs, all of which pose their respective problems.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: And finally, for the sake of comedy:

Women

Men

I watched the first minute of the women's video and had to stop. Did they ever get over that first log?

rka: Plus, you'd pretty much wipe out every academic program except the very few that bring in grants.

You're going to have to explain wtf that has to do with Title IX.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: I'll just get it over with and say what everyone thinks but is too scared to say:

Nobody gives a shiat about women's sports because women are inferior athletes* and schools should be allowed to spend money on sports programs based on the revenue those programs generate and nothing else.

*Womens' world track and field records across the board are equivalent to the world records for 14-15 year-old male athletes

we get it. you're a sexist asshole. good for you. who cares if folks like or dislike watching women's sports? the point of school sports is not revenue (well, at least in theory). how many collegiate men's sports turn a profit? how many high schools make money on football or basketball?

/i still would be ok with football be excluded from the title ix scholarship math.
//just let them play. they're not hurting anyone.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: rka: Plus, you'd pretty much wipe out every academic program except the very few that bring in grants.

You're going to have to explain wtf that has to do with Title IX.

It's an obvious extension of your "if it doesn't pay its own way, it's useless" type of attitude.

A Fark Handle: /i still would be ok with football be excluded from the title ix scholarship math.
//just let them play. they're not hurting anyone.

I agree.

So why are we keeping boys from playing sports, because we must have "equal or greater participation" in athletics programs by girls? I mean, literally, that's how Title IX is interpreted these days, with football SOMETIMES being an exception.

A Fark Handle: we get it. you're a sexist asshole.

I'm not sexist, but Title IX is.

It isn't sexist to say that women are inferior athletes to men. That's an objective fact.

It isn't sexist to suggest colleges should be allowed to spend scholarship money on the sports programs which generate revenue. That's just good business. Colleges with good business practices have more money to spend on education.

It IS sexist, however, to implement policies which discriminate against men and contributes to the reduction of programs for male athletes. You know, like Title IX.

Incidentally, I'm a huge fan of athletics, but I think it's about time we start considering funding sports in OTHER WAYS. This country is becoming disgustingly fixated with sports, and parents would rather see their kids, boys AND girls, participate in them than obtain a worthwhile education.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: A Fark Handle: we get it. you're a sexist asshole.

I'm not sexist, but Title IX is.

It isn't sexist to say that women are inferior athletes to men. That's an objective fact.

It isn't sexist to suggest colleges should be allowed to spend scholarship money on the sports programs which generate revenue. That's just good business. Colleges with good business practices have more money to spend on education.

It IS sexist, however, to implement policies which discriminate against men and contributes to the reduction of programs for male athletes. You know, like Title IX.

no, you ARE sexist (that's why you posted those silly x-games videos). and i agree that the current solution of cutting men's sports to balance the numbers is a serious problem and is against the spirit of title ix. of course the real simple solution is exclude football. as for colleges being a "business," turns out that they are not. one of the serious problems in modern america is the silly somewhat common belief that every single enterprise/endeavor in the nation should be run like a business. turns out, no, somethings should not be run as a business.

/i never said it was sexist to say the women on average lack the athleticism/strength of men.
//all this said, i know you're not changing your sexist mind, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

FILE - In this July 23, 1996 file photo, Bela Karolyi, right, congratulates Dominique Moceanu after the United States captured the gold medal in the women's team gymnastics competition at the Centennial Summer Olympic Games in Atlanta. At center is U.S. team coach Martha Karolyi. Moceanu hopes her book "Off Balance" will effect "positive change" at USA Gymnastics. Namely, getting U.S. women's team coordinator Martha Karolyi out of the picture.

Anyone know the story behind this? Is Karolyi some kind of gymnastic slave driver?

miss diminutive: Anyone know the story behind this? Is Karolyi some kind of gymnastic slave driver?

More or less, but that is kind of the nature of the high profile Olympic sports. The difference between a medal, and a nice trip can be a tiny fraction.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: And finally, for the sake of comedy:

Women

Men

This isn't the politically correct thing to say, but that was one of the funniest things I have ever seen in any athletic competition. Everyone in the room was rolling with laughter watching the women (especially the rider who managed to tumble down the big hill in the middle once we found out she was ok). It was especially telling when the male riders just destroyed the same course with few problems. Look, I understand the disparity in sponsorships, riding time, etc., however, that event did a great disservice to women riders as it represented them as the best in the sport who simply couldn't compete in any way, shape, or form compared to the men. You figure the elite women athletes in a given sport usually can't compete with the elite men, but they are in the ballpark of the more journeyman/roster fillers for the most part. This competition almost appeared as many were riding for the first time.

miss diminutive: Anyone know the story behind this? Is Karolyi some kind of gymnastic slave driver?

She got butthurt that Martha called her fat.

miss diminutive: FILE - In this July 23, 1996 file photo, Bela Karolyi, right, congratulates Dominique Moceanu after the United States captured the gold medal in the women's team gymnastics competition at the Centennial Summer Olympic Games in Atlanta. At center is U.S. team coach Martha Karolyi. Moceanu hopes her book "Off Balance" will effect "positive change" at USA Gymnastics. Namely, getting U.S. women's team coordinator Martha Karolyi out of the picture.

Anyone know the story behind this? Is Karolyi some kind of gymnastic slave driver?

She's from a former Soviet bloc sports program. You do the math.

A Fark Handle: that's why you posted those silly x-games videos

I posted it because it's funny and this is fark, a place for funny things.

Here, have some funny "goaltending."

HotWingAgenda: miss diminutive: FILE - In this July 23, 1996 file photo, Bela Karolyi, right, congratulates Dominique Moceanu after the United States captured the gold medal in the women's team gymnastics competition at the Centennial Summer Olympic Games in Atlanta. At center is U.S. team coach Martha Karolyi. Moceanu hopes her book "Off Balance" will effect "positive change" at USA Gymnastics. Namely, getting U.S. women's team coordinator Martha Karolyi out of the picture.

Anyone know the story behind this? Is Karolyi some kind of gymnastic slave driver?

She's from a former Soviet bloc sports program. You do the math.

She had them on a regular diet of horse steroids and beatings?

ZoSo_the_Crowe: A Fark Handle: that's why you posted those silly x-games videos

I posted it because it's funny and this is fark, a place for funny things.

Here, have some funny "goaltending."

I joined a coed soccer team a few years ago after growing up playing only women's soccer and the difference was shocking. I made the mistake of standing in the wall for a free kick (taken by a male) and got the ball square in the babymaker. I couldn't breathe for a solid 30 seconds, something that had never happened in my female leagues.

Sexual dimorphism is a powerful thing. .

carnifex2005: Yeah, but do 14-15 year-old male athletes have asses like this?

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Which is why I watch women's sports when I bother to watch at all...

I'm sorry, I read that as pornographic tribute

whats more interesting is that many young men rely on sports to help them develop social networks. so if a school cancels a mens program because it cannot also fund the corequisite womens program (such as what happened to my high school la cross team) it harms men in a pretty big way.

Really, you idiots think Title IX is the reason why minor men's sports are being eliminated? If you learned one thing from 1980's college comedies it's The Dean can't be trusted.

Sports is good. For all.
Beyond the obvious physical health benefits, the socialization, teamwork skills, the inevitable concern for the health of the planet and all inhabitants, discovery of one's own limits both mentally and physically...I can think of not much else that a nation should consume itself with. Sure beats vampire teenagers.
/socialized sports for all - I'm for it!

1. Women's sports are best when they're based on grace. That usually means there's a judges' table.

2. If you're going to get rational about it, the revenue sports are based on the ringer system. There aren't many student-athletes in the big programs. Get rid of athletes who aren't in school primarily to get a degree. Suddenly, Title IX is about as controversial as equal numbers of gym classes. I know that won't happen. Title IX is a another example of the courts fixing a deficiency of the free-market system.

That list should have had Dara Torres on it. She's one of the few athletes that I remember by name after the last Olympics; I hope she qualifies for London.

Wow, the chauvinism is suffocating in this thread..."waah, let's exclude half of the world's population from any sort of athletic activity because we don't want to watch it!" Note: just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it shouldn't exist, or that our colleges should get rid of them because they aren't money-makers. The people griping that men are being hurt by this are just coming up with excuses...if men really want to play something, they'll go to a college that has it. Same as women. No one with true athletic ability in a sport will suffer because of Title XI. If you have a problem with it, instead of getting rid of Title XI, get rid of sports in college period. Then you don't have to worry about fairness. More women go to college than men (http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-01-26-genderequity26_ST_N .htm) by a ratio of 57% to 43%, so it's women who are paying more college costs, anyway. This has nothing to do with whether men or women are equal at athletics, and everything to do with small-minded trolls who like to perceive hurts against their entire sex because of some government mandate that they would have never even heard of if ESPN didn't gripe about it daily in regards to college football.

/yes, I am a college football fan
//get tired of the "pay athletes so we don't have to see our program hurt by arbitrary NCAA violations!" arguments
///take your hate out on the NCAA, not women

Komplex: Really, you idiots think Title IX is the reason why minor men's sports are being eliminated? If you learned one thing from 1980's college comedies it's The Dean can't be trusted.

Lucky I had my iPad on my lap or else I would have spit hot coffee all over myself.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: rka: Plus, you'd pretty much wipe out every academic program except the very few that bring in grants.

You're going to have to explain wtf that has to do with Title IX.

While I agree with quite a bit, the fact remains that a lot of programs lose money.

Some Bass Playing Guy: Wow. There's a whole like of jackasses in this thread.

I'm not much of a fan of women's sports, myself, but the deserve the opportunity to participate and compete. I don't give a shiat if women's sports are "popular" or big revenue generators.

Title IX means women get that opportunity.

The only thing I think most get tired of is how the try and force it on the public, the WNBA is a massive failure but nobody acknowledges it.

Unless they are hot and wearing spandex I just don't care.

We no can dunk, but good fundamentals. That more fun to watch.

bborchar: Wow, the chauvinism is suffocating in this thread..."waah, let's exclude half of the world's population from any sort of athletic activity because we don't want to watch it!" Note: just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it shouldn't exist, or that our colleges should get rid of them because they aren't money-makers. The people griping that men are being hurt by this are just coming up with excuses...if men really want to play something, they'll go to a college that has it. Same as women. No one with true athletic ability in a sport will suffer because of Title XI. If you have a problem with it, instead of getting rid of Title XI, get rid of sports in college period. Then you don't have to worry about fairness. More women go to college than men (http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-01-26-genderequity26_ST_N .htm) by a ratio of 57% to 43%, so it's women who are paying more college costs, anyway. This has nothing to do with whether men or women are equal at athletics, and everything to do with small-minded trolls who like to perceive hurts against their entire sex because of some government mandate that they would have never even heard of if ESPN didn't gripe about it daily in regards to college football.

/yes, I am a college football fan
//get tired of the "pay athletes so we don't have to see our program hurt by arbitrary NCAA violations!" arguments
///take your hate out on the NCAA, not women

Title IX, not XI- too early in the morning

"@ss like a 12 year old boy"

1971-72 or 1981-82? An infographic shouldn't contradict itself. It hurts credibility.

ZoSo_the_Crowe: It IS sexist, however, to implement policies which discriminate against men and contributes to the reduction of programs for male athletes. You know, like Title IX.

And this is how I know you don't know shiat about Title IX. There are 3 different ways you can be Title IX compliant in regards to athletics:

1. Participation opportunities are proportionate to enrollment (i.e. if 60% of students are men, 60% of athletics are male sports)

2. Continued expansion progress for the underrepresented sex (i.e. it doesn't meet proportion, but new opportunities have been added each year)

3. Accommodating the interest and ability of the underrepresented sex (i.e. if females are underrepresented but they're only interested in softball, then that's the only sport that the college needs to have)

You only need to match ONE of the above. Show me where it says anything about reducing opportunities for one gender or the other. The truth is that colleges have been looking for an excuse to cut non-revenue generating programs (like men's wrestling) and Title IX is a convenient scapegoat.