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(LA Times)   How low-budget movie studios "draft" major studios, by quickly producing cheap ripoffs of hit movies that look so similar, consumers rent the wrong DVD   (latimes.com) divider line 26
    More: Stupid, DVD, direct-to-DVD, major studio, movie studios, Antonio Banderas, Puss in Boots, Happy Feet, DreamWorks Animation  
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2012-06-24 07:48:58 PM  
3 votes:
Obviously, consumers are getting pissed off over this trend, and studios like The Asylum admit what they're doing... So why does Redbox, Netflix, and other services even stock these items? Why not fix the problem at the retail level?

Honestly, I can't see how having Transmorphers and the cheap knock-off Puss in Boots is good for Netflix, Redbox, or anyone else in the rental business. It just leads to cranky customers who feel cheated, and it takes up valuable space in the box/queue that could be used for other, better movies.

Instead of stocking crap like this, Redbox would get more of my money by stocking decent older films.

Nobody likes The Asylum, or any of the other knock-off companies. Retailers have a choice in what they stock, and so if you see a knock-off in their selection, it's the retailer's fault it's there. Their buyers could cut off those sources. The companies could choose to stop doing business with these charlatans... But they don't.

It's getting to the point where I'm thinking of canceling Netflix because I'm sick of scrolling past dozens of these schlocky flicks just to find anything decent. I don't mind indie flicks, foreign flicks, low-budget flicks, etc... I just can't stand all the obvious knock-offs and cash-ins. They aren't made to entertain; They're made solely to confuse. Quality does not matter to them.

So STOP IT, Redbox and Netflix! STOP IT, Blockbuster and Amazon VOD! STOP IT, VUDU and Crackle! Stop buying from these studios. People will soon get sick of this crap, and you will be the ones to suffer for it.
2012-06-24 07:04:25 PM  
2 votes:
Most Americans have no idea that they're beeing played constantly.
2012-06-25 12:24:00 PM  
1 votes:

Jackpot777: [cdn09.film.com image 600x400]

The Voice.

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The Choice. Coming to Fox.


upload.wikimedia.org

4.bp.blogspot.com

Granted, a larger space of time between them.
2012-06-25 09:04:48 AM  
1 votes:
Meanwhile, back in the '60s, your grandpa bought your mom a record by those long-haired weirdos from England on the Sullivan show that she wouldn't shut up about.

www.heyrube.com
2012-06-25 06:02:18 AM  
1 votes:
And some parents buy said knockoffs for their kids as a cheaper alternative to seeing the real thing in the theater or buying the DVD thinking "they won't know the difference." Yes, they do. Kids aren't as stupid as some people think they are.
2012-06-25 03:00:57 AM  
1 votes:

Keizer_Ghidorah: Anyone who knows who Vídeo Brinquedo is will certainly recognize what these stinkers are ripoffs of:

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I have never worked in the entertainment industry, but holy shiat I want to beat everyone who is responsible for churning out "mockbusters".
2012-06-24 11:35:07 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-06-24 08:29:51 PM  
1 votes:

calbert: titwrench: I got tricked by a movie at Blockbuster called THE Sling Blade. But the "the" in the title was purposely tiny. I threw in in the DVD player and had my WTF moment. I took it back and Blockbuster wouldn't refund my money or allow me to pick a different movie. Their argument was that the movie was only out a couple of months prior and I shouldn't have expected it to be on DVD already. I never went back.

I don't see what they did wrong here? was the movie scratched? did it not play properly? Did the cover box say 'starring Billy Bob Thornton'?

the problem wasn't with Blockbuster or with that movie. it was with you. pay more attention to what's going on around you in this world and you'll avoid embarrassing situations where your ignorance is exposed.


THIS. Some of you are farking retarded if you don't even know enough to read the title of the video you are renting.
2012-06-24 08:29:00 PM  
1 votes:
Sounds like old news to me. Didn't Roger Corman pretty much make a career out of this?
2012-06-24 08:24:01 PM  
1 votes:
I watched some bootleg of American Warship at home on my plasma... not too bad, but like all the hype said, it was not up to usual Hollywood standards.

Then I made the mistake of watching it's ripoff at the theater... "Battleship" - wow, that movie stunk. How could you make a ripoff of a not-so-great movie so bad? Even worse, it had people who looked like big name stars (no way that was Liam Neeson, but I wasn't hanging around to verify that in the credits)
2012-06-24 08:01:22 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: calbert: fusillade762: One Bad Apple: [newsmanone.files.wordpress.com image 580x745]

[img.movie-list.com image 506x755]

This hardly something that ONLY low budget studios do

An even better example:

[sharetv.org image 230x360]

[www.iceposter.com image 281x400]

[www.movieposter.com image 500x746]

or even better:

[cdn.movieclips.com image 306x480]

[i9.tinypic.com image 273x417]

Did you mean for one of those to be an "E.T." poster?

And apparently it's REALLY bad:

It has been labeled one of the worst films ever made by Rotten Tomatoes, where it holds a 0% rating



I've never seen it. but I figured enough people are familiar with it, or would at least recognize the movie it was trying to copy.

I just went looking for a pic and couldn't decide which one more closely resembled E.T., so I posted them both.
2012-06-24 08:00:28 PM  
1 votes:

Tommy Moo: Why is this trash cluttering up Netflix instant? Netflix is rewarding these parasitic companies, and it's not like we are getting tricked into renting them by the title. Do people actually subscribe to Netflix to watch Almighty Thor, et al?


My question as well, and as someone who watched the video game crash in the 80s, I can say this might lead to a movie crash for all the same reasons.

The video game crash-- particularly Atari's demise-- was caused by too many fly-by-night (and some mid-level) companies releasing incredible amounts of shovelware; Cheap knock-offs and bad games that just resembled others on the cover, or in basic game concepts. These were abundant near the end. Companies-- even the big companies-- were shoveling out bad games with nifty, derivative cover art as if it were a way to print money.

And eventually, consumers wised up and just stopped buying EVERYTHING, because they became wary of the quality of the products, and because they were burned out trying to pick through the chaff to find small grains of wheat.

In the end, consumers will cancel Netflix, and stop sorting through the crap on the Redbox, because they're SICK of digging past the garbage in order to find the one or two decent flicks in the selection.

It would be in Netflix, Amazon, Redbox, Vudu, Cinema Now, and Crackle to refuse to stock these low-budget OBVIOUS knock-offs.

Nobody's saying they should stop stocking low-budget flicks-- Just that they should be discriminating and choose not to stock the ones that are obvious knock-offs, cash-ins, and attempts to scam the consumer. Nobody appreciates this practice. The Asylum, in my mind, is about the same thing as a Nigerian Prince sending me an email, and they can go f♥ck themselves.
2012-06-24 07:39:41 PM  
1 votes:

calbert: I don't see what they did wrong here?


Try reading the headline of this very thread. pay more attention to what's going on around you in this world and you'll avoid embarrassing situations where your ignorance is exposed.
2012-06-24 07:37:11 PM  
1 votes:

Mentalpatient87: titwrench: JOHN MCENROE MY CHILDHOOD NEMESIS: titwrench: I got tricked by a movie at Blockbuster called THE Sling Blade. But the "the" in the title was purposely tiny. I threw in in the DVD player and had my WTF moment. I took it back and Blockbuster wouldn't refund my money or allow me to pick a different movie. Their argument was that the movie was only out a couple of months prior and I shouldn't have expected it to be on DVD already. I never went back.

I cant tell you how many times I did an exchange/refund for "Battle OF Los Angeles" when I was working at a video store. I had like 5 copies of the film and it came out on DVD the DAY Battle: Los Angeles was released in theatres.

I informed the people who thought it was the theatre version that it wasnt, but some people didnt ask. Naturally they all came back later and were irritated. This was like that for about a month. I even asked if we could get a 'shelf talker' (marketing on the shelf) that said something like "Check out the latest film from Asylum Entertainment!" so people could maybe get the hint, but no go.Most of their 'mockbusters' are at least slightly differently named, like "Almighty THOR' for example, but yeah, please everyone, read the box. At least look at it, read the back and if its got the Asylum/SyFy logo, chances are youre going to hate it unless you actively look for that kind of movie.

But at least you made the exchange. This clerk basically told me to pound sand.

Well, learn to goddamn read.


Nothing like hindsight advice from an asshole to help move the story along.
2012-06-24 07:26:56 PM  
1 votes:

One Bad Apple: [newsmanone.files.wordpress.com image 580x745]

[img.movie-list.com image 506x755]

This hardly something that ONLY low budget studios do


An even better example:

sharetv.org

www.iceposter.com

www.movieposter.com
2012-06-24 07:25:59 PM  
1 votes:
Why is this trash cluttering up Netflix instant? Netflix is rewarding these parasitic companies, and it's not like we are getting tricked into renting them by the title. Do people actually subscribe to Netflix to watch Almighty Thor, et al?
2012-06-24 07:17:31 PM  
1 votes:

titwrench: JOHN MCENROE MY CHILDHOOD NEMESIS: titwrench: I got tricked by a movie at Blockbuster called THE Sling Blade. But the "the" in the title was purposely tiny. I threw in in the DVD player and had my WTF moment. I took it back and Blockbuster wouldn't refund my money or allow me to pick a different movie. Their argument was that the movie was only out a couple of months prior and I shouldn't have expected it to be on DVD already. I never went back.

I cant tell you how many times I did an exchange/refund for "Battle OF Los Angeles" when I was working at a video store. I had like 5 copies of the film and it came out on DVD the DAY Battle: Los Angeles was released in theatres.

I informed the people who thought it was the theatre version that it wasnt, but some people didnt ask. Naturally they all came back later and were irritated. This was like that for about a month. I even asked if we could get a 'shelf talker' (marketing on the shelf) that said something like "Check out the latest film from Asylum Entertainment!" so people could maybe get the hint, but no go.Most of their 'mockbusters' are at least slightly differently named, like "Almighty THOR' for example, but yeah, please everyone, read the box. At least look at it, read the back and if its got the Asylum/SyFy logo, chances are youre going to hate it unless you actively look for that kind of movie.

But at least you made the exchange. This clerk basically told me to pound sand.


Well, learn to goddamn read.
2012-06-24 07:07:54 PM  
1 votes:

BizarreMan: Apparently the rental outlets don't care about having pissed off customers because they were conned into renting the wrong movie.


how is it a con? are these knock-off titles misrepresenting something?

Abraham Lincoln vs. Zombies is not Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
American Warships is not Battleship
Kiara: The Brave is not Brave
Chop Kick Panda is not Kung Fu Panda
The Day the Earth Stopped is not The Day the Earth Stood Still...

Those movie companies are not committing any type of fraud, what is on those disks is what is says in the descriptions of those movies.

what if Redbox advertised those b-movie knock offs as, "If you can't afford, or are unable, or hate going to the theater to see XYZ on its opening weekend... why not pick up XXYZ today. It's not the big-budget Hollywood release, but it only costs $1.20 and the same basic storyline is followed."?

Would that help you in deciding if you were going to rent it or not?

When you rent the DVD at Redbox, it gives you the description of the movie as you are adding it to your cart, in that description, you'll probably also see information such as actors, director, studio, release date...

If you're incapable of discerning a major Hollywood release from a B-movie knockoff, then don't take your frustration out on the call center employee at Redbox.
2012-06-24 06:57:16 PM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: TRANSMORPHERS.

That is all.


randall120.files.wordpress.com
2012-06-24 06:50:13 PM  
1 votes:
My seven-year old son watched Chop Kick Panda on Netflix and loved it. He understands perfectly well what it's ripping off, he recognizes when they lift lines from Star Wars, he made mocking comments at the worst moments, and appreciates it for the cheaply-made badly-animated knockoff that it is. Then he insisted on watching it again. I've never felt prouder of my parenting.

/Redbox, by the way, need to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror and ask how they feel about knowingly participating in ripping off their customers.
//And if they feel OK about it, at least ask themselves whether it's a good business strategy
2012-06-24 06:34:33 PM  
1 votes:
I got tricked by a movie at Blockbuster called THE Sling Blade. But the "the" in the title was purposely tiny. I threw in in the DVD player and had my WTF moment. I took it back and Blockbuster wouldn't refund my money or allow me to pick a different movie. Their argument was that the movie was only out a couple of months prior and I shouldn't have expected it to be on DVD already. I never went back.
2012-06-24 06:00:29 PM  
1 votes:
FTA: That's why the Asylum is sending a small crew to Cambodia to shoot what could be the hottest drafting opportunity title of the holiday season: "Age of the Hobbits."

Age of the Hobbits? Considering how protective the Tolkien Estate is, how is this even being considered much less made?
2012-06-24 05:27:45 PM  
1 votes:

Vodka Zombie: Why rent them? SyFy broadcasts them all the time.


The time will come when SyFy's TV schedule is comprised of nothing but those horrible low-grade monster films.

And it will be a glorious time.
2012-06-24 05:22:49 PM  
1 votes:
Why rent them? SyFy broadcasts them all the time.
2012-06-24 04:55:21 PM  
1 votes:
TRANSMORPHERS.

That is all.
2012-06-24 04:07:35 PM  
1 votes:
wow! really? so companies are making money off of the ignorance of the American consumer?

I almost spit out my bottled water.
 
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