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2012-06-24 03:20:47 PM  
Sharp knees.
 
2012-06-24 03:39:50 PM  
I'm surprised how grimy and shop-worn most of the surfaces are in there.. I get the fact that it had been in service for nearly 3 decades, but you'd think someone would wipe down the thing with some windex and a lint-free rag once in a while..

Cool closeup tho. Too bad it doesn't offer fullscreen mode.
 
2012-06-24 04:16:18 PM  
Which one's the check engine light?
 
2012-06-24 04:33:05 PM  
It's not extreme detail until you see skateboarders drinking Mountain Dew.
 
2012-06-24 04:33:46 PM  
That gives me a sad. Good night, sweet orbiter.
 
2012-06-24 04:44:49 PM  
The "Bob switch" is an example of compensating for the fact that the space shuttle control panels were designed with the intention that crews would not wear pressure suits, except for the first four test flights which used Columbia outfitted with two ejection seats and a lot of other equipment the other orbiters wouldn't have.
 
2012-06-24 04:54:33 PM  
I really wanted to like it, but apparently big images are now too much for my quad-core PC to handle.
 
2012-06-24 05:07:23 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I really wanted to like it, but apparently big images are now too much for my quad-core PC to handle.


They take all that time to get these images and then publish them online using some shiat quality plugin that was designed for Netscape 3. If I were the photographer I'd be pissed off.
 
2012-06-24 05:18:18 PM  
WFT do they need all of those buttons for?

1. Light huge fire
2. Float awhile
3. Fall
 
2012-06-24 05:19:00 PM  
Where's the cigarette lighter?
 
2012-06-24 05:20:12 PM  
Return to flight asap please
 
2012-06-24 05:33:13 PM  

Russ1642: They take all that time to get these images and then publish them online using some shiat quality plugin that was designed for Netscape 3. If I were the photographer I'd be pissed off.


Chrome on a 4 year old Macbook and it didn't begin break a sweat, so perhaps a rogue browser plugin. Don't see the issue.

Getting back to the picture- I see that some of the control labelling is intentionally obscured. For what purpose? Is one of them labelled 'Rooskie Laser', or something like that?
 
2012-06-24 05:42:15 PM  
Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion : I really wanted to like it, but apparently big images are now too much for my quad-core PC to handle.

Works fine on my i7.

// but I've tuned the hell out of this machine.
 
2012-06-24 05:44:25 PM  
This would have been more relevant 5 years ago.
 
2012-06-24 06:02:25 PM  

brainscab: Return to flight asap please


Even if they wanted to they couldn't. All the companies who created parts have either shut down operations a half decade ago or refocused on other business.
 
2012-06-24 06:12:10 PM  

gingerjet: brainscab: Return to flight asap please

Even if they wanted to they couldn't. All the companies who created parts have either shut down operations a half decade ago or refocused on other business.


Buying 386s on ebay still?


Abe Vigoda's Ghost: This would have been more relevant 5 years ago.


infinitely so
 
2012-06-24 06:20:15 PM  
This is extremely cool.

/where's the banana dispenser?
 
2012-06-24 06:20:42 PM  

Rockstone: Buying 386s on ebay still?


Despite common belief the flight computers in the shuttles were modern.
 
2012-06-24 06:21:44 PM  
"You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it?"

/Loved that movie...
 
2012-06-24 06:37:55 PM  
Holy Crap. That looks incredibly low tech.
 
2012-06-24 06:45:15 PM  

Bhasayate: Holy Crap. That looks incredibly low tech.


Yeah, they should probably retire it.
 
2012-06-24 06:57:48 PM  

Warchild: Bhasayate: Holy Crap. That looks incredibly low tech.

Yeah, they should probably retire it.


I mean, that looks low tech for 20 years ago even.
 
2012-06-24 07:05:10 PM  

Bhasayate: I mean, that looks low tech for 20 years ago even.


I know, I was just messin' with ya.
 
2012-06-24 07:09:48 PM  
Where's the inanimate carbon rod?
 
2012-06-24 07:12:42 PM  
nightsonvenus.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-24 07:21:54 PM  
I saw it in person on Thursday. Still an amazing piece of machinery.
 
2012-06-24 07:31:44 PM  

Bhasayate: Holy Crap. That looks incredibly low tech.


Looks like the typical MIL-STD-1472 interface to me. The switches are designed that way on purpose. Certain things you do not want displayed on the glass that were designed from the beginning to be dumb/analog. The more you convert stuff to digital software the more things go wrong because of poor coding and requirements flow down when going from analog to digital. As the number of bits gets ad channels get larger the more things will go wrong because of unforseen conditions and poor testing. A simple analog switch does not have that problem. It is very hard to go from an old analog design to a pure digital cockpit. System architecture usually prevents this because there would be massive rework to sensors and components from providing a simple 5VDC/28VDC and ground signals to a digital bit. That is why I think the next generation spacecraft (I am looking at you Dragon) will be amazing to fly. All those switches for tank valves, guidance computers and even circuit breakers will be digital.
 
2012-06-24 07:55:46 PM  
Thanks, subby. That was an enjoyable half-hour, going from panel to panel, exploring. :)
 
2012-06-24 08:20:41 PM  

Echo0: Bhasayate: Holy Crap. That looks incredibly low tech.

Looks like the typical MIL-STD-1472 interface to me. The switches are designed that way on purpose. Certain things you do not want displayed on the glass that were designed from the beginning to be dumb/analog. The more you convert stuff to digital software the more things go wrong because of poor coding and requirements flow down when going from analog to digital. As the number of bits gets ad channels get larger the more things will go wrong because of unforseen conditions and poor testing. A simple analog switch does not have that problem. It is very hard to go from an old analog design to a pure digital cockpit. System architecture usually prevents this because there would be massive rework to sensors and components from providing a simple 5VDC/28VDC and ground signals to a digital bit. That is why I think the next generation spacecraft (I am looking at you Dragon) will be amazing to fly. All those switches for tank valves, guidance computers and even circuit breakers will be digital.


My father-in-law works for a company that makes switches and indicator lights and it is very strict. Switches cannot be accidentally toggled or have some kind of middle part like a typical light switch. Indicator lights have to be visible when lit or invisible when unlit in direct sunlight. A typical car's dashboard is a perfect example of what an indicator light should not be like.
 
2012-06-24 08:20:45 PM  

rhiannon: Which one's the check engine light?


ALL OF THEM!

Seriously cool though!
 
2012-06-24 08:31:53 PM  
I've been tapping on my keyboard and saying "enhance" for a couple hours now.

"Zoom in on that screw. Enhance. Can we sharpen up that reflection? That's our perp. Got him."
 
2012-06-24 08:56:53 PM  

unyon: Russ1642: They take all that time to get these images and then publish them online using some shiat quality plugin that was designed for Netscape 3. If I were the photographer I'd be pissed off.

Chrome on a 4 year old Macbook and it didn't begin break a sweat, so perhaps a rogue browser plugin. Don't see the issue.

Getting back to the picture- I see that some of the control labelling is intentionally obscured. For what purpose? Is one of them labelled 'Rooskie Laser', or something like that?


Didn't find any of those. Roughly where are they?
 
2012-06-24 09:36:37 PM  
Great pics. The next one will be even better.

Some things that are high tech appear that way since people have made generation after generation of them, continually improving them, like walkmen-type things; we've only make one generation of space shuttles, so far.
 
2012-06-24 09:46:29 PM  
Who doesn't want to us that toilet?

/ you would miss
 
2012-06-24 10:03:47 PM  
 
2012-06-24 10:14:03 PM  
On mobile. Have to check it out later on a full rig.
 
2012-06-24 10:27:01 PM  
Now before I say something, I must preface it with "You'll always be my special girl, and a technological marvel. There is no comparison to you baby."


//That said...what a hodgepodge pile of crap.
 
2012-06-24 10:27:23 PM  

Lego_Addict: Who doesn't want to us that toilet?

/ you would miss


I attended the high-school level camp at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL in 1989. Campers assigned to be astronauts would spend the better part of 24 hours inside a full-size space shuttle crew cabin mockup. It was originally built for filming the "real" space scenes in the 1986 movie SpaceCamp and looked pretty accurate, complete with the mid-deck toilet which has a scene in the movie. The camp counsellors took time to make sure everyone understood that the toilet was NOT real, not hooked up to anything, and they didn't want to have to clean it again. Please exit the shuttle through the crew hatch and use the real bathroom in the building when needed.
 
2012-06-24 11:01:25 PM  
Oooo...what font are the labels on those controls?
 
2012-06-24 11:18:59 PM  

redly1: Oooo...what font are the labels on those controls?


Enterprise Sans
 
2012-06-24 11:45:35 PM  
SO much a bookmark for later...

(at least I'm honest about it)
 
2012-06-25 12:05:30 AM  
I like how it looks as if you could take the whole thing apart with a #2 Phillips screwdriver...it really is low tech.
 
2012-06-25 12:42:30 AM  

LtDarkstar: "You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it?"



One my favorite movie quotes. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-06-25 12:48:26 AM  

Nem Wan: I attended the high-school level camp at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL in 1989. Campers assigned to be astronauts would spend the better part of 24 hours inside a full-size space shuttle crew cabin mockup. It was originally built for filming the "real" space scenes in the 1986 movie SpaceCamp and looked pretty accurate, complete with the mid-deck toilet which has a scene in the movie. The camp counsellors took time to make sure everyone understood that the toilet was NOT real, not hooked up to anything, and they didn't want to have to clean it again. Please exit the shuttle through the crew hatch and use the real bathroom in the building when needed.



I did that camp around 1991. I recall that one of the other teams accidentally skipped an important step during their mission. During launch, someone forgot the part where the Shuttle actually, you know, LEAVES THE LAUNCHPAD FOR SPACE. So when they got to the part where they released the external rockets and fuel tank, they were technically still sitting on the launchpad. Twenty years later and the image of that in my mind still makes me laugh.

I bombed the freaking test they give you on the first day to decide what you'll do during your "mission," and I ended up stuck in mission control, which pissed me off since my grandfather was an engineer in the Shuttle program and I actually knew quite a bit about it. I wanted to be at the Shuttle controls so badly.
 
2012-06-25 12:54:26 AM  
As part of my work, I was able to see the inside of the shuttle while they were still in use. It was amazing and something I'll never forget. But after taking it all in the first hour I was in the flight deck, I asked the worker there (forgot for the life of me what their official title is/was) what the red circles with punched out holes were - he said they were for fire extinguisher access in case any of the electrical wiring caught fire. Just insert nozzle and go. Seeing as how almost all of the ones I saw had been punched, I asked if that was a common occurrence. He laughed and said that no, it wasn't, just that the astronauts loved poking them with their fingers. Thought that was pretty funny.

/yeah I know, CSS (it was cool to me dammit)
 
2012-06-25 01:24:39 AM  

otiosa: As part of my work, I was able to see the inside of the shuttle while they were still in use. It was amazing and something I'll never forget. But after taking it all in the first hour I was in the flight deck, I asked the worker there (forgot for the life of me what their official title is/was) what the red circles with punched out holes were - he said they were for fire extinguisher access in case any of the electrical wiring caught fire. Just insert nozzle and go. Seeing as how almost all of the ones I saw had been punched, I asked if that was a common occurrence. He laughed and said that no, it wasn't, just that the astronauts loved poking them with their fingers. Thought that was pretty funny.

/yeah I know, CSS (it was cool to me dammit)


Thank you so much for answering the question I hadn't asked! I was wondering about those...
 
2012-06-25 02:18:37 AM  
Damn, zoom in on some of that velcro :P
 
2012-06-25 10:32:06 AM  

Bhasayate: Warchild: Bhasayate: Holy Crap. That looks incredibly low tech.

Yeah, they should probably retire it.

I mean, that looks low tech for 20 years ago even.


The good thing about low tech is, things don't break as easily and when they do, its MUCH easier to fix.
However, I'm guessing that these components only look old. After all, they are just a bunch of switches.
 
2012-06-25 01:21:50 PM  

Bhasayate: Warchild: Bhasayate: Holy Crap. That looks incredibly low tech.

Yeah, they should probably retire it.

I mean, that looks low tech for 20 years ago even.


It was designed 40 years ago. What exactly looks low tech about it though?
 
2012-06-25 01:29:00 PM  

impaler: Bhasayate: Warchild: Bhasayate: Holy Crap. That looks incredibly low tech.

Yeah, they should probably retire it.

I mean, that looks low tech for 20 years ago even.

It was designed 40 years ago. What exactly looks low tech about it though?


To give an analogy, I suppose it reminds me more of the inside of a World War II fighter jet than the inside of a Modern fighter jet. That was my first thought.
 
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