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(Yahoo)   Several thousand future inmates protest Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Tent City Jail complex   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 21
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2012-06-24 12:32:04 PM
3 votes:

diaphoresis: You know what scares me about tent city? People live in AZ and commit crimes KNOWING tent city exists.

Personally, I would have thought having a 'tent city' would be a deterrent to committing crimes in AZ. Obviously, there are an excessive amount of stupid criminals (redundancy intended) living in AZ. If I ever had to live in tent city, then got out, I would make DAMN sure I would commit crimes in some other state.


Many of the people living in the "tent city" have been convicted of no crime.
2012-06-24 02:55:47 PM
2 votes:
Nothing will be solved by Joe dying, because he's a symptom, not the cause.

The real source of trouble in Maricopa for the foreseeable future can be more accurately blamed on 'Fossil Panic'. You have an artificially pumped up population of out-of-state seniors who bring all their requisite baggage, outmoded racism and 'new-guy' insecurity. Add on some ego issues that come from fears of becoming irrelevant with age. So they flex their political and financial muscle and vote for anybody - anybody - who will faithfully shoehorn their skewed and innapropriate viewpoints into everything, logic and ethics be damned.

None of that will go away with Sherrif Joe when he dies. They'll just find someone else like him to vote for, probably someone even worse. Once the Boomer generation dies off to a point where they lose enough influence, only then will change finally come.
2012-06-24 01:20:09 PM
2 votes:
If there is a single person that I would breath a sign of relief if I heard about their assassination it would be old joe.


Funny that the older generations biatched about a tiny wall in Berlin. Now they want to build miles of fences and put people in camps. Funny how things work.
2012-06-24 01:08:42 PM
2 votes:

skinink: It seems like he will never leave his position unless he dies. But it seems like the majority of voters in that area want him as Sheriff, so I don't see what the problem is. Are many of those protesters actually registered to vote? I can't understand why one of the most controversial officials in the U.S. hasn't been voted out yet.


You're right, he will retain his position until he dies or is killed. Most people (even in Phoenix) don't go to jail and most aren't immigrants, so you have scores of people who just shrug and say, "He says what he thinks."
No he doesn't. He says what will continue to get him elected.
He also jails journalists without cause, uses resources to harass political opponents, sends his buddies to suites on Coronado island for "training", zip-ties mexicans without cause, fails to investigate hundreds of reported sexual abuse cases in areas he won't win, and grandstands on a platform of cruelty disguised as machismo.
I could point specifics to my co-worker all day and when it comes time to vote, he will still choose that dip-stick because it doesn't effect him. And, "Well he says what he thinks."
He won't refute a single thing and put a check by his name.
Sheriff Joke will continue until the day he dies, because most people are not outwardly effected by his lunacy and he provides the comfort of a sticky electric blanket.
Hooray, complacency.
2012-06-24 12:47:21 PM
2 votes:
I have huge problems with Sheriff Joe. Hes my sheriff, and i get to vote against him.. which i do. Count me in the anyone but Joe camp.. but my problems with him aren't with how he runs the jail. Im totally fine with the tents, the pink undies, the baloney sandwiches.. all thats fine. I think its not much more than theater, but its fine. My problem with Sheriff Joe is that hes an attention whore who spends more time concocting ways to get on TV than he does doing his job. We don't need a celebrity sheriff. Also, hes completely corrupt, he uses county resources to go after political opponents, and its not even subtle he does it right out in the open, cause he knows he has the vote of all the blue hairs and old dudes. Ill be happy the day he kicks the bucket.. cant be too far away now.. hes what? 80? and that seems to be the only way we will get rid of him.
2012-06-24 12:39:25 PM
2 votes:
Sheriff Joe should be the only resident of Tent City. In his case, the tent should be inside the Artic Circle..
2012-06-24 12:31:39 PM
2 votes:
Fark Arizona.
2012-06-24 12:30:12 PM
2 votes:

diaphoresis: You know what scares me about tent city? People live in AZ and commit crimes KNOWING tent city exists.

Personally, I would have thought having a 'tent city' would be a deterrent to committing crimes in AZ. Obviously, there are an excessive amount of stupid criminals (redundancy intended) living in AZ. If I ever had to live in tent city, then got out, I would make DAMN sure I would commit crimes in some other state.


Why, it's almost like preventing crime is more complicated than dreaming up draconian punishments!
2012-06-24 04:43:29 PM
1 votes:

LavenderWolf: Psychomancer: I work for a different Arizona law enforcement agency and beleive that Arpiao is wrong most of the time and that he is too old to remain sheriff, but tent city is one of his good ideas that actually works. The tents are no different that those our service men and women live in in Afghanistan. During the day, the inmates can go into the air conditioned day room. Jail is not supposed to be fun.

The fark is wrong with you people?

They are TENTS in the DESERT.

It doesn't farking MATTER if the US military also sleeps in tents in the desert. You don't sentence people to be in the f*cking army. I've been in tents in the high heat of summer, as I was in the military using those same goddamn tents you cite. Forcibly confining someone to one is torture. I am not being facetious, I am not exaggerating, it is torture. So shut the fark up, show me what a tough you guy are and videotape yourself spending time in a 130+ degree tent.


I guess that there was an awful lot of torture going on in Arizona jails and prisons prior to the advent of air conditioning.

Not having A/C for prisoners is TORTURE! WAAAAAA!
2012-06-24 01:36:30 PM
1 votes:
I'm not an American, so forgive me if I get this wrong, but I think most people would describe this a concentration camp.

Do I have that right?
2012-06-24 01:21:38 PM
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: I agree jail isn't supposed to be fun, but Arpiao is mistreating inmates.




the most recent death in one of Sheriff Joe's jail

ast Friday, six months after Atencio was buried with full military honors, the Maricopa County medical examiner released an unusual autopsy report that paints a horrifying picture of his last hours.

Atencio's cause of death was tied to "complications of cardiac arrest" due to "acute psychosis, law enforcement subdual and multiple medical problems," wrote the medical examiner, Mark Fischione. The medical examiner didn't specify whether Atencio died of natural causes or was killed by the officers.

Atencio is at least the 12th inmate to die under strange circumstances in the Maricopa County jail system. (The Phoenix New Times lists 11 other such cases here.) And listing "law enforcement subdual" as one cause of death, according to former Maricopa County chief prosecutor Rick Romley, is particularly unusual because it could implicate law enforcement in Atencio's death.

The former soldier's allegedly rough treatment by officers at Arpaio's infamous Fourth Avenue jail in Phoenix was caught on routine jail video tape. By then, Atencio had been in police custody for over four hours and had been showing signs of "acute psychosis," the medical examiner reports. The video appears to show burly officers from Phoenix and Maricopa County piling on Atencio, apparently after he said something, though exactly what remains unclear because jail cameras don't record audio.




and of course, the families inevitably sue, and the cases are as far as i can tell, ALWAYS RESOLVED VIA SETTLEMENT TO AVOID TRIAL.

and maricopa county taxpayers foot the bill.

sometime i wonder why i live in this backwards ass fark of a burg.
2012-06-24 01:02:41 PM
1 votes:
Legalize pot and I wont have a problem with tent city, carboard box city, or even newspaper blanket city.
2012-06-24 12:59:49 PM
1 votes:

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Put Goldwater Institute in those tents.


Amen, brother.

If you think Joe Arpaio is corrupt, just look into the US Senate seat held by Barry Goldwater and John McCain. Do the words "Mafia...murder...convicted felon owning a liquor distributorship...Don Bolles...Joe Bonano...Kemper Marley...dog racing..." mean anything to you?

Everyone...EVERYONE...in Arizona politics is dirty but there is dirty and then there is stink so bad that upwind only means the big chunks of shiat miss you.
2012-06-24 12:51:34 PM
1 votes:

diaphoresis: You know what scares me about tent city? People live in AZ and commit crimes KNOWING tent city exists.


People commit crimes in spite of the death penalty. How come it is a reasonable idea to expect that living in a tent is supposed to be an effective crime deterrent when death isn't?
2012-06-24 12:49:26 PM
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  2012-06-24 12:41:15 PM  
i know at least two people at the protest and i'm bet money my sister is there. she's the kind of person -- i said this yesterday to the people going -- who will stand in front of cops and flips them off, then biatch about getting arrested.

she's taken on this militant / civil disobedience type personality at an odd stage in her life.

*sigh*

31,000 unserved felony arrest warrants in maricopa county and....

Sheriff Joe raids a brake repair company to arrest six undocumented / illegals
31,000 unserved felony arrest warrants in maricopa county and sheriff joe will raid a freaking


Lets us not forget the over 400 SEX CRIMES HE WILLINGLY DID NOT HAVE INVESTIGATED!
2012-06-24 12:43:41 PM
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: diaphoresis: You know what scares me about tent city? People live in AZ and commit crimes KNOWING tent city exists.

Personally, I would have thought having a 'tent city' would be a deterrent to committing crimes in AZ. Obviously, there are an excessive amount of stupid criminals (redundancy intended) living in AZ. If I ever had to live in tent city, then got out, I would make DAMN sure I would commit crimes in some other state.

Many of the people living in the "tent city" have been convicted of no crime.


As I understand the tent city, it's only volunteers serving sentences who are there. Anyone held because they can't make bail isn't in tent city. Anyone elderly or with medical issues isn't in tent city.
2012-06-24 12:39:45 PM
1 votes:

diaphoresis: You know what scares me about tent city? People live in AZ and commit crimes KNOWING tent city exists.


Actually they are thinking "Well if Joe can commit crimes and the people love him, they will love me to!" They forget that they are not some senile white guy with a gun , badge, and a haterd for the Constitution going "It's them messsicans!"
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2012-06-24 12:36:21 PM
1 votes:
"The U.S. Justice Department has accused the sheriff's office of racially profiling Latinos in its immigration patrols."

© the DOJ needs to understand that there aren't many Canadians immigrating from the south.
2012-06-24 12:34:15 PM
1 votes:
Organizers say conditions at "Tent City" complex are inhumane. The sheriff has said he doesn't see any problems with housing inmates in tents and often points out that some members of the U.S. military live in tents.

Not for any long term housing the military doesn't.

And issues of whether this is inhumane aside, I think the bigger issue I think would be security. How do you separate and protect prisoners from each other when all you are working with tent flaps? At the very least, I would think having walls would mean needing fewer staff.
2012-06-24 12:26:12 PM
1 votes:
I work for a different Arizona law enforcement agency and beleive that Arpiao is wrong most of the time and that he is too old to remain sheriff, but tent city is one of his good ideas that actually works. The tents are no different that those our service men and women live in in Afghanistan. During the day, the inmates can go into the air conditioned day room. Jail is not supposed to be fun.
2012-06-24 12:25:46 PM
1 votes:
It seems like he will never leave his position unless he dies. But it seems like the majority of voters in that area want him as Sheriff, so I don't see what the problem is. Are many of those protesters actually registered to vote? I can't understand why one of the most controversial officials in the U.S. hasn't been voted out yet.
 
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