Rich beautiful control freak sociopaths have problems, too. Still no sympathy from me.

Vienna is his greatest song. That is all.

titwrench: Vienna is his greatest song. That is all.

"Summer, Highland Falls" would like a word with you

The Piano Man's battle with that uptown girl has been going on for the longest time.

/I still think he's an innocent man, but I guess it wasn't a matter of trust.
//He can't handle pressure, but she's always a woman to me.

buntz: titwrench: Vienna is his greatest song. That is all.

"Summer, Highland Falls" would like a word with you

I forgot about that song, great piano work. I still love Vienna though. There is just something about that song.

Sounds like Christie Brinkley is the one going to extremes, starting the fires, making the good die young, and never likes people just the way they are.

You would think she would just want to end it and head down the Holiday Road.

Beaver1224: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ♫ She's still crazy after all these years... ♫

Wrong guy. That was Carly Simon...you know - sang "Yesterday."

No, that was James Taylor. You're thinking of Dan Fogelberg, who wrote "Take It Easy" for the Little River Band.

puckrock2000: Beaver1224: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ♫ She's still crazy after all these years... ♫

Wrong guy. That was Carly Simon...you know - sang "Yesterday."

No, that was James Taylor. You're thinking of Dan Fogelberg, who wrote "Take It Easy" for the Little River Band.

Thanks for that information. I always confuse the drummers from Queen and Supertramp. Was that before or after Steve Winwood left the LRB?

Someone should point out to her that Peter Cook has been dead since 1995.

buntz: titwrench: Vienna is his greatest song. That is all.

"Summer, Highland Falls" would like a word with you

Brender and Eddie would like a word with both of you.

king of vegas: after We Didn't Start the Fire I became a hater. I can't listen to any of his music now without hating every single particle of his being.

Hemingway, Eichmann, "Stranger in a Strange Land"
Dylan, Berlin, I stole this song from R.E.M.

king of vegas: Billy Joel inflicted upon us some of the worst music ever known to man. We Didn't Start the Fire, Uptown Girl, A Matter of Trust, I Go to Extremes, Tell Her About It, and The River of Dreams are several examples. These songs aren't just bad, they're ear-achingly fingernails-on-a-chalkboard bad. They are so bad they make Sheryl Crow songs seem like high talent. Billy Joel had a few good songs early but after We Didn't Start the Fire I became a hater. I can't listen to any of his music now without hating every single particle of his being.

You sound like a joy of a person to be around. Let me guess, you almost tried to slit your thoat after having to hear three bars of a Nickleback song.

/music is subjective
//just because you don't like it doesn't mean sharing an opinion like this will radicially change someone else's opinion
///it just makes you look like a douche.

BTW, was I wrong, or did Billy and Christie have a pretty amicable divorce? I seem to remember they just grew apart, but I could be wrong.

MattyFridays: BTW, was I wrong, or did Billy and Christie have a pretty amicable divorce? I seem to remember they just grew apart, but I could be wrong.

She couldn't handle the drinking and musician lifestyle. Both of them pretty much said that.

So, she took up with someone she thought she could control.

Oh, well.

king of vegas: MattyFridays: king of vegas: Billy Joel inflicted upon us some of the worst music ever known to man. We Didn't Start the Fire, Uptown Girl, A Matter of Trust, I Go to Extremes, Tell Her About It, and The River of Dreams are several examples. These songs aren't just bad, they're ear-achingly fingernails-on-a-chalkboard bad. They are so bad they make Sheryl Crow songs seem like high talent. Billy Joel had a few good songs early but after We Didn't Start the Fire I became a hater. I can't listen to any of his music now without hating every single particle of his being.

You sound like a joy of a person to be around. Let me guess, you almost tried to slit your thoat after having to hear three bars of a Nickleback song.

/music is subjective
//just because you don't like it doesn't mean sharing an opinion like this will radicially change someone else's opinion
///it just makes you look like a douche.

0/10

No, he's right.
It does make you look like a douche.

Oh Christie, do you know how many pubescent boys would have eaten a basket filled with dog pee soaked sammichs just to get within sniffing distance of your adorable little hoohaw back in the day?

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ♫ She's still crazy after all these years... ♫

king of vegas: Billy Joel inflicted upon us some of the worst music ever known to man.

MattyFridays: /music is subjective

whither_apophis: //billy joel's music sux

What's the matter with the crowd I'm seein', don't you know that they're out of touch?

buntz: titwrench: Vienna is his greatest song. That is all.

"Summer, Highland Falls" would like a word with you

"Miami: 2017" has next.

king of vegas: Billy Joel inflicted upon us some of the worst music ever known to man. We Didn't Start the Fire, Uptown Girl, A Matter of Trust, I Go to Extremes, Tell Her About It, and The River of Dreams are several examples. These songs aren't just bad, they're ear-achingly fingernails-on-a-chalkboard bad. They are so bad they make Sheryl Crow songs seem like high talent. Billy Joel had a few good songs early but after We Didn't Start the Fire I became a hater. I can't listen to any of his music now without hating every single particle of his being.

1/10, sincere but not hype enough.

fferret: buntz: titwrench: Vienna is his greatest song. That is all.

"Summer, Highland Falls" would like a word with you

"Miami: 2017" has next.

"Captain Jack" calls dibs.

and that is a damned good short set list.

CptnSpldng: fferret: buntz: titwrench: Vienna is his greatest song. That is all.

"Summer, Highland Falls" would like a word with you

"Miami: 2017" has next.

"Captain Jack" calls dibs.

and that is a damned good short set list.

And finish with "The Entertainer".

the "Stranger" album is pretty darn great, "turnstiles" is underrated.

"52nd street" and "glass houses" are alright pop/rock albums.

But "the Iron Curtain" is really where he actually took CHANCES and did something different. his songwriting matured, experimented with different styles, a lot of the songs are great, no french crap like "you were the one".

Then he plunged everything down the crapper and threw it off the cliff with " An Innocent Man".

"Any mother in America, if you're protecting your children from someone, particularly a mother of her net worth, would you go off and do Broadway and give him the children for five months straight?"

yes, that is kind of strange. If she's an "angry, vindictive woman" as her ex claims, wouldn't she try to keep him away from the kids? Because everyone knows that that's the first thing the psycho ex-biatch does--tries to take the kids away from him. And the courts ALWAYS side with her.

But it's perfectly normal for a guy to have an affair with an 18-year old employee. He was just sick of Christie's shiat. I'm sure he has no character issues whatsoever.

king of vegas: Music is subjective to a small extent but Beethoven's 5th is a greater achievement . . .

That's pretty heavy for a Billy Joel thread.

/I mean - it's a Billy Joel thread!

king of vegas: Music is subjective to a small extent but Beethoven's 5th is a greater achievement than "She wears short skirts I wear sneakers" or whatever that is.

Billy Joel's "This Night" uses the second movement of Ludwig van Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata. Beethoven is credited as one of the song's writers on the sleeve of the album as "L.V. Beethoven".

Good song, too. Both of them, actually!

Saw Billy Joel at a show when the news of her remarriage broke.

He was commode huggin' drunk and would not stop talking about it. More like ranting bitterly about it. Like if several thousand people got to watch the meltdown you had in your dorm freshman year when what's her name dumped you and you drank a bottle of Captain Morgan and wrote songs and hurled....

Kinda, epic, in it's own way.

titwrench: Vienna is his greatest song. That is all.

Is that the one that goes, "Good night Viennnaa/you city of a million something or others"?

/kidding
//it's a really good song

cryinoutloud: "...But it's perfectly normal for a guy to have an affair with an 18-year old employee....

Well, it's certainly normal to THINK about it.

Divorce chick goes crazy & makes up accusations so wack-a-do everyone but her sees right through it.

Also dog bites man.

So men still have to write child support checks to women even when they're the caretakers for the kids?

The more I read of the divorce/family court system, the more I seem to think the the patriarchal establishment is a bigger manufactured myth than the liberal media.

InmanRoshi: So men still have to write child support checks to women even when they're the caretakers for the kids?

The more I read of the divorce/family court system, the more I seem to think the the patriarchal establishment is a bigger manufactured myth than the liberal media.

Divorce law varies from state to state, but generally speaking, no. After divorce, there's two kinds of payments that are made - child support and alimony. Child support is just that, support for the child. Whoever has the kids gets the checks, based on a formula that figures out how much the little bugger costs and who has the greater burden of care. So when you get a divorce where the mom gets the kids and the dad gets a weekend every other week and two months in the summer, the court figures up how much the kids cost, then figures up what the split of custody is, and orders the dad to pay the difference over to mom. Other factors like standard of living and employment also figure into the formula. One parent might also be charged with keeping health insurance on the kids.

Alimony (or maintenance) is different. That's a payment directly from one spouse to another that is based off the needs of the receiving spouse. Has nothing to do with the kids and is a completely separate payment, with completely separate (usually stricter) criteria. That's usually what you get when the millionaire CEO divorces the housewife after 20 years of marriage and the woman doesn't even have an associate's degree. It's not really that common of an award, as the court generally expects the receiving party to get off their ass and pay their own way pretty damn quick. Child support, on the other hand, is supposed to be used for the kids, and the spouse receiving it can be in deep shiat if they're not doing the right thing with the money.

A Billy Joel song that kicks ass.

Yeah, he's recorded a few turds. But he's also got plenty of good ones out there. Also, the man has a sick amount of talent.