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(Ahram Online)   Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Mursi wins Egyptian presidential election, becoming the first non-military president of Egypt   (english.ahram.org.eg) divider line 285
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2012-06-24 01:42:04 PM  
We need to pool our money and open up a chain of burka shops accross Egypt. We'll call it "Farkin' Burkas". We'll make a killing! Who's in?
 
2012-06-24 01:44:18 PM  

Curious: quickdraw: Curious: not only is the average woman's life going to get a lot worse

You seem awfully sure of that and Im wondering why.

ordinarysteve: MB has said they will support the Camp David Peace accord, as well as protecting women and minority rights.

because unlike ordinarysteve i don't believe them. they are trying like crazy to project rationality but (like the republicans) their base is going to rip them for that.

there is a complicating factor in the military that none of us can adequately predict right now. Egypt's best long term prospects are for an open society but the same can be said for Afghanistan and you know how well that's working out.


Can't predict the military? notsureifserious.jpg

Let me 'predict' it for you:

The Egyptian military is going to continue playing their role as decider of foreign policy decisions and they're going to leave domestic matters to the feuding goverment.

They're going to continue to play the line of neutrality to Israel and give grudging help to the Palestinians, but they're NOT going to do anything that's going to cause the flood of aid and weaponry from the West to dry up. They'll overthrow the Egyptian government and install a puppet before they allow the Egyptian state to get aggressive with Israel again.
 
2012-06-24 01:44:56 PM  

Infernalist: There's a lot of hysterical womenrepublicans in this thread.


FIFY
 
2012-06-24 01:46:11 PM  

This Amp Goes To 11: dawnofdaycare: The Spinx and the the statues of the pharaohs are open for being destroyed now, just like like the Buddhist statues destroyed in Afghanistan. Sad.

Your understanding of middle east culture, politics and religion is pretty superficial if that's what you genuinely believe.


Why, yes. Yes it is. I have based my entire belief structure on what learned from the internet.
 
2012-06-24 01:46:32 PM  
On this planet there are a sh*atload of bridges that are currently missing their trolls.

Egyptians aren't stupid. Many Egyptian physicians (both men & women) have moved to and practice here in the US, they know how the "western world" works and so do their friends & family back home.

They have access to satallite TV so they have news access as well as cultural access and have had for years. Unlike some other third world nations Egypt's upper & middle class have access to decent education as well as some rights for women (compared to some other Islamic nations i.e. Iran or Indonesia).

If Egypt decides to tangle militarily with Israel they will pay a price.

In this case, I believe the "Islamic Brotherhood" has bitten off far more than they can chew.
 
2012-06-24 01:47:03 PM  

Mrtraveler01: But to be fair ALL born against aren't educated in the "traditional" sense. Religious brainwashing is a kind of education right?


Please don't lump the rest of us Christians in with these Martians....

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-24 01:49:08 PM  

willyfreddy: [img41.imageshack.us image 499x171]

I don't have time to track down the reference myself, but when the uprising started I vividly recall the Muslim Brotherhood claiming that they have no intention of ever seeking power in Egypt. It would be awesome, and very educational, if someone could find that reference for us.

/shocked that the MB didn't follow through on their word
//not rly


It's like how the Ayatollah Khomeini never had any intention of seeking power over Iran. Banisadr was elected president.

/but then Banisadr started blaspheming Islam, with that "separation of church and state" nonsense
//so Khomeini "had no choice" but to replace him
 
2012-06-24 01:49:38 PM  

Infernalist: Respect is given as it is received. You don't see scientists going to churches passing out copies of Darwin's 'Evolution of the Species'


You might try it. I would not find that offensive at all. If handing out Bibles is all it takes to offend you.....
 
2012-06-24 01:49:46 PM  

quickdraw: Perhaps my paper on Furryism and Midsummer Nights Dream for my MFA in Theatre was in poor taste but I dont think it's a regime changer.


btw that's not how i remember it :)
 
2012-06-24 01:51:19 PM  

Aikidogamer: Infernalist: Respect is given as it is received. You don't see scientists going to churches passing out copies of Darwin's 'Evolution of the Species'

You might try it. I would not find that offensive at all. If handing out Bibles is all it takes to offend you.....


It doesn't offend me but it does sound pretty tempting to go to one of those bigass megachurches in town and troll them with this.

/very lapsed Catholic
 
2012-06-24 01:54:57 PM  
Mrtraveler01

Gdalescrboz: Mrtraveler01
Gdalescrboz: Nogale

You really have to wonder about Muslims. They overthrow oppressive regimes - and vote in Islamists.

Now, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has made promises that it won't institute Sharia law, won't force women to cover their hair, etc. Did the Egyptian voters actually buy those promises?


Millions of you libs bought Obama's

I just voted for him because he wasn't a Republican to be honest.

After 8 years of Bush, I didn't think we needed 4 more years of Republican failure.

And you got 4/8 more years of Bush

Yeah, i should've voted for McCain. I mean he wouldn't have replicated the Bush years any better than Obama did right?

Let me guess, I should've voted for neo-confederate RON PAUL right?


Sure, i dont care. Anything not Republican/Dem main stream would be nice
 
2012-06-24 01:55:43 PM  

zulius: [pnmedia.gamespy.com image 200x200] ...suddenly, he appears?
/not the same brotherhood?


Keep you eye on space..Tiberium will really FARK our environment.
 
2012-06-24 01:58:59 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Aikidogamer: Infernalist: Respect is given as it is received. You don't see scientists going to churches passing out copies of Darwin's 'Evolution of the Species'

You might try it. I would not find that offensive at all. If handing out Bibles is all it takes to offend you.....

It doesn't offend me but it does sound pretty tempting to go to one of those bigass megachurches in town and troll them with this.

/very lapsed Catholic


I'd join you. What is faith if it cannot withstand a reference book or an opposing view?
 
2012-06-24 01:59:11 PM  
How many jets did we sell these f*cking idiots?

/time for a new reality show
//the real bomb-shelter wives
///of Tel Aviv
 
2012-06-24 01:59:30 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Mrtraveler01

Gdalescrboz: Mrtraveler01
Gdalescrboz: Nogale

You really have to wonder about Muslims. They overthrow oppressive regimes - and vote in Islamists.

Now, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has made promises that it won't institute Sharia law, won't force women to cover their hair, etc. Did the Egyptian voters actually buy those promises?


Millions of you libs bought Obama's

I just voted for him because he wasn't a Republican to be honest.

After 8 years of Bush, I didn't think we needed 4 more years of Republican failure.

And you got 4/8 more years of Bush

Yeah, i should've voted for McCain. I mean he wouldn't have replicated the Bush years any better than Obama did right?

Let me guess, I should've voted for neo-confederate RON PAUL right?


Sure, i dont care. Anything not Republican/Dem main stream would be nice


Ah I see, you're one of those kind of voters. Not sure what we should vote for but not Obama and Romney.

You come back with someone better than Obama who is not Romney and then you might have something.
 
2012-06-24 02:03:32 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Ah I see, you're one of those kind of voters. Not sure what we should vote for but not Obama and Romney.

You come back with someone better than Obama who is not Romney and then you might have something.


How about a constitutional amendment that would change the government from winner take all elections to a multi party system?
 
2012-06-24 02:09:22 PM  

Aikidogamer: Mrtraveler01: Ah I see, you're one of those kind of voters. Not sure what we should vote for but not Obama and Romney.

You come back with someone better than Obama who is not Romney and then you might have something.

How about a constitutional amendment that would change the government from winner take all elections to a multi party system?


You mean like a Parliamentary system? I'd love that too but I'm not holding my breath.
 
2012-06-24 02:15:21 PM  
Seems like his opponent graciously conceded defeat, and they're moving on.

Hopefully the Copts get more rights there and a peaceful era of tolerance between everyone develops.
 
2012-06-24 02:17:36 PM  
Will the media still claim Obama is responsible for the Arab Spring now?

Remember how these guys were just a boogey man of the right to undermine Obama's diplomatic success?
 
2012-06-24 02:18:24 PM  
That supposedly Chinese curse of 'May you live in interesting time' is really kicking into full gear this summer
 
2012-06-24 02:23:03 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Will the media still claim Obama is responsible for the Arab Spring now?

Remember how these guys were just a boogey man of the right to undermine Obama's diplomatic success?


No. Do you remember a time you didn't sound so stupid?

No one in a serious position credited this to Obama and those that tried to credit this to Obama were laughed out of the room.
 
2012-06-24 02:25:29 PM  

Aikidogamer: Infernalist: We'll stop calling them dumb when they stop building theme parks putting people in the era as the dinosaurs and expecting us to take them seriously.

I usually tend to not do my science in a theme park, unless it is physics, then it is just plain fun. Ooooooo....roller coaster physics problems! Don't like the park? Don't go. Wait for capitalism to work and they go away or make money just to piss you off. Ever consider picking a smaller brush. Certainly, some religious zealots believe that depiction is accurate, but not many. Also have you ever considered theme parks not repositories of knowledge and should not be treated as such?

When they stop trying to gut science education in the name of religious freedom, then we'll stop calling them stupid.

The word "gut" is going to need context for me to answer this. (funding, teaching alternate theories, offering religious comparison classes?)

When they embrace discovery and scientific achievement rather than condemn it as 'Satanic', then we'll stop mocking them.

Sentiment was covered by the whole "Scientists are Satan's minions" comment.

/If trolling, 3/10.
// If not, a good example of the disrespect for others I was talking about.


You know... I'm Christian. I'm dating a Jew. I live in what might be referred to as "the Bible Belt", around Central Missouri.

I really, really wonder where all of these crazy creationist Christians are. I mean, according to Fark, I'm one. I am supposed to reject all reason, think that Jesus wanted America to nuke all non-believers (which would include the wonderful woman sitting next to me on the couch at this moment) and stone scientists to death for their blasphemy. I'm supposed to be living in the middle of "Jesus' 'Mericuh" where we all bomb abortion clinics and tell people they're going to hell for being gay. Again, I've never met any of these "nutjob Xtians" that supposedly work to make life miserable for the rest of you.

I know quite a few of the people I grew up going to church with are going on to study many things, including biology, computer science, math, and other things that we're supposed to hate. Could it be that most Christians (and Jews, Muslims, etc.) are actually just normal people and see science as perfectly acceptable?
 
2012-06-24 02:28:04 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Gdalescrboz: Mrtraveler01

Gdalescrboz: Mrtraveler01
Gdalescrboz: Nogale

You really have to wonder about Muslims. They overthrow oppressive regimes - and vote in Islamists.

Now, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has made promises that it won't institute Sharia law, won't force women to cover their hair, etc. Did the Egyptian voters actually buy those promises?


Millions of you libs bought Obama's

I just voted for him because he wasn't a Republican to be honest.

After 8 years of Bush, I didn't think we needed 4 more years of Republican failure.

And you got 4/8 more years of Bush

Yeah, i should've voted for McCain. I mean he wouldn't have replicated the Bush years any better than Obama did right?

Let me guess, I should've voted for neo-confederate RON PAUL right?


Sure, i dont care. Anything not Republican/Dem main stream would be nice

Ah I see, you're one of those kind of voters. Not sure what we should vote for but not Obama and Romney.

You come back with someone better than Obama who is not Romney and then you might have something.


Gary Johnson?
 
2012-06-24 02:29:56 PM  

Mrtraveler01: You mean like a Parliamentary system? I'd love that too but I'm not holding my breath.


I know, right. Take heart in the fact many of the under 40 republicans care more about having a great economy than telling people what morals they should have. There is a tug of war in the party and if the more libertarian wing takes over govt will get cheaper and smaller.
 
2012-06-24 02:33:08 PM  

Marine1: I know quite a few of the people I grew up going to church with are going on to study many things, including biology, computer science, math, and other things that we're supposed to hate. Could it be that most Christians (and Jews, Muslims, etc.) are actually just normal people and see science as perfectly acceptable?


It would make many Farker head explode if they new this truth.
 
2012-06-24 02:33:59 PM  

Marine1: really, really wonder where all of these crazy creationist Christians are. I mean, according to Fark, I'm one. I am supposed to reject all reason, think that Jesus wanted America to nuke all non-believers (which would include the wonderful woman sitting next to me on the couch at this moment) and stone scientists to death for their blasphemy. I'm supposed to be living in the middle of "Jesus' 'Mericuh" where we all bomb abortion clinics and tell people they're going to hell for being gay. Again, I've never met any of these "nutjob Xtians" that supposedly work to make life miserable for the rest of you.


You live right down the road from Jefferson City and you're asking us this question?

Or do we need to propose a "don't say gay" bill in schools a second time and regulate strip clubs even further for you to realize these loons do exist.

/Disgruntled Missouri Christian
 
2012-06-24 02:34:44 PM  

Aikidogamer: Marine1: I know quite a few of the people I grew up going to church with are going on to study many things, including biology, computer science, math, and other things that we're supposed to hate. Could it be that most Christians (and Jews, Muslims, etc.) are actually just normal people and see science as perfectly acceptable?

It would make many Farker head explode if they new this truth.


Most Christians I know are pretty sane as well. But it only takes a few idiots to ruin it for the rest of us.
 
2012-06-24 02:35:53 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Will the media still claim Obama is responsible for the Arab Spring now?




The deregulation of the US financial markets caused the Arab Spring, which basically turned out to be what we call in the business a lagging indicator.


1. Financial deregulation during Clinton and Bush II years

2. Speculators drive up price of oil

3. Replacements for oil sought and found in corn ethanol, removing huge swaths of US corn (normally used for for feeding countries all around the world).

4. Price of corn skyrockets. Corn producers realize huge gains in wealth.

5. Riots all over the world protesting the high price of food (i.e. corn). This is what we refer to today as the "Arab Spring". The OWS movement is America's version of this (although more muted) in that it is protesting the rising cost of living while average wages are decreasing, or in other words, class war declared upon the Middle Class.

6. Some of these riots turn into full blown revolutions resulting in the toppling of entire governments.

The irony, of course, being that greedy American kleptocrats have caused the overthrow of many of the puppet regimes they put in place during the Cold War as a check on the Soviets. And judging from the trending of history from a long-term perspective, they will also end up causing the overthrow of their own kleptocratic regime right here in America.

Round and round the wheel goes. Where it will land, no one knows.
 
2012-06-24 02:36:20 PM  
Something tells me the Egyptian "democracy" will be very much like--until recently--the Turkish variety: if the civil government becomes a nuance, the military will "fix" it.
 
2012-06-24 02:43:50 PM  
"After his victory was announced, Morsi resigned from the Muslim Brotherhood and the Freedom and Justice Party, in an apparent effort to send the message that he will represent all Egyptians."

Link
 
2012-06-24 02:45:52 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Aikidogamer: Marine1: I know quite a few of the people I grew up going to church with are going on to study many things, including biology, computer science, math, and other things that we're supposed to hate. Could it be that most Christians (and Jews, Muslims, etc.) are actually just normal people and see science as perfectly acceptable?

It would make many Farker head explode if they new this truth.

Most Christians I know are pretty sane as well. But it only takes a few idiots to ruin it for the rest of us.


Hence the Farva pic....
 
2012-06-24 02:48:19 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Marine1: really, really wonder where all of these crazy creationist Christians are. I mean, according to Fark, I'm one. I am supposed to reject all reason, think that Jesus wanted America to nuke all non-believers (which would include the wonderful woman sitting next to me on the couch at this moment) and stone scientists to death for their blasphemy. I'm supposed to be living in the middle of "Jesus' 'Mericuh" where we all bomb abortion clinics and tell people they're going to hell for being gay. Again, I've never met any of these "nutjob Xtians" that supposedly work to make life miserable for the rest of you.

You live right down the road from Jefferson City and you're asking us this question?

Or do we need to propose a "don't say gay" bill in schools a second time and regulate strip clubs even further for you to realize these loons do exist.

/Disgruntled Missouri Christian


The strip club thing... yeah, but it's more or less offset by the fact that the stretch of interstate known as I-70 between KC and St. Louis is probably the most perverted highway in the country.

As for that dick representative, well, then a Catholic colleague of his came out as gay.

Like I hear about these guys in the news but the way it's said here on Fark (by what would appear to be a bunch of Dawkins acolytes) is that we're all here to impose Biblical law on the land and shiat. It's just not true. Hell, it even comes up in threads not even remotely related to conservative Christians in the US, like this one.
 
2012-06-24 02:51:55 PM  
Meh.

Military still holds actual power.

They just dissolved parliament, why not the presidency?
 
2012-06-24 02:53:25 PM  

Marine1: Like I hear about these guys in the news but the way it's said here on Fark (by what would appear to be a bunch of Dawkins acolytes) is that we're all here to impose Biblical law on the land and shiat. It's just not true. Hell, it even comes up in threads not even remotely related to conservative Christians in the US, like this one.


You want to start a real tizzy, tell them you are a recreational shooter and gun collector as well. Then it is 3..2...1....Flame thread!
 
2012-06-24 02:54:01 PM  

ryant123: steamingpile: Non-military? Riiiiiight......

And to the idiot above the Republicans doesnt want government based in Christian religion, especially the parts about taking away women's rights and killing gays.

But nice troll.

I don't know about killing gays, but the first two things you mention have pretty much become the GOP's official platform.

.
.
The derp here is strong and deep as always.
 
2012-06-24 02:54:36 PM  

Stantz: I never wanted to the the pyramids anyway




i229.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-24 02:58:56 PM  

Aikidogamer: Marine1: Like I hear about these guys in the news but the way it's said here on Fark (by what would appear to be a bunch of Dawkins acolytes) is that we're all here to impose Biblical law on the land and shiat. It's just not true. Hell, it even comes up in threads not even remotely related to conservative Christians in the US, like this one.

You want to start a real tizzy, tell them you are a recreational shooter and gun collector as well. Then it is 3..2...1....Flame thread!


I don't collect guns... and don't like to discuss the topic in public, but, yeah, a nice trip to the range every once in a while is enjoyable.
 
2012-06-24 03:01:20 PM  
"Blow back" from US instigated "regime change". It's easy, just win their hearts and minds. (long read but worth it)
 
2012-06-24 03:03:41 PM  

Hector Remarkable: Stantz: I never wanted to the the pyramids anyway



[i229.photobucket.com image 300x300]


Oh hush, you
 
2012-06-24 03:04:39 PM  
He's says he'll maintain the 1979 Accord.

i229.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-24 03:09:39 PM  

jbar19: Also, the idea that all religion is bad is hysterical yammerings. Say what you want about the Born Agains, but at least they educate their women, and don't drive airplanes into buildings, kill Olympic Athletes, use the law to persecute non believers or object to ALL art, music or flying kites.


Okay. I'll bite. Born agains brainwash their women and provide woefully inadequate education. You're living proof.
 
2012-06-24 03:25:38 PM  

ordinarysteve: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]
Which one of you is this guy? I'm sensing strong overtones of 'murica...fark ya in here


And everything I learned about Christianity I learned in Northern Ireland.
 
2012-06-24 03:31:43 PM  
President Obama: This should make the Middle East a calmer, more rational place ... right?
 
2012-06-24 03:37:28 PM  

ordinarysteve: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]
Which one of you is this guy? I'm sensing strong overtones of 'murica...fark ya in here


That guy is probably an asshole, but I doubt he gets many speeding tickets.
 
2012-06-24 03:38:04 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: President Obama: This should make the Middle East a calmer, more rational place ... right?


No. Clearly we should be more clear in our hypocrisy.

When we said we wanted to spread democracy throughout the Middle East, we REALLY meant to say we wanted to spread US/Israel friendly democracy throughout the Middle East.

But tell me smart guy, what should have Obama done in this situation?
 
2012-06-24 03:39:00 PM  

Jamdug!: ordinarysteve: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]
Which one of you is this guy? I'm sensing strong overtones of 'murica...fark ya in here

That guy is probably an asshole, but I doubt he gets many speeding tickets.


He's a neo-nazi too. The license plate is blurred because it makes some reference to the Aryan nation or something.
 
2012-06-24 03:47:24 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: President Obama: This should make the Middle East a calmer, more rational place ... right?


HotAir parrot. You conservatives should feel lucky. This will be a perfect example of what a strong conservative government is like. I don't put much faith in it seeing as there has never been a successful strong conservative government in the history of mankind that hasn't either been overthrown by the people or been an utter economic failure.
 
2012-06-24 03:54:28 PM  

ObeliskToucher: AlanSmithee: My coworker in my adjacent cubicle is Muslim, from Egypt. As a matter of fact, she voted there and will return back to Canada later this month. And she strongly believes Morsi won't institute Sharia law.

And yet... she's returning to Canada.

/NTTAWWT


Well, she's got citizenship, is smart as a whip, has a well-paying job,and you can be sure she sends money back home. Oh, and she loves Canada. And Egypt too. Turns out she'd like Egypt to be a bit more like Canada. By living here and telling her relatives back in Egypt how great democracy is, I think she's doing good.
 
2012-06-24 03:57:57 PM  
i106.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-24 04:00:38 PM  

Mock26: In before the "muslims are evil" derp.


... and yet, people with your sentiment will turn around and scream to high hell if say, an evangelistic christian runs for president.

Extremists of any sort (be it religious, political, moral, etc) are bad no matter what they represent. Of course if you're fine with a guy who's so encouched in his fundamentalism he runs under the "muslim brotherhood" banner, I'm sure you'd be fine with living over there and enjoying the oppressive hardline fundamentalism and bigoted policies he's going to inflict. Riiiight?
 
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