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(Sun Sentinel)   If you're going to try to shoplift $53-worth of meat by shoving it down your pants, just get in your car and drive away. Don't stop to first remove your license plate   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 67
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2012-06-24 01:06:21 AM

Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: That's when a passerby, Joseph Patrick, saw what was happening, went over to Smith's white 1999 Mercury and yelled at him to stop.

Why the fark would anyone who didn't work at the place bother getting involved?

I better not check your past posts and find out you're one of the fools yelling about how Paterno should have gotten involved in the Sandusky mess.

Shoplifting isn't really in the same ballpark as serial child molestation. If someone's being assaulted sure, step in if you think you can make a difference. But $53 in meat? F*ck that. Even if I was an employee there I'd just let the cops handle it rather than risk getting shot, stabbed, run over, etc.

Getting involved is getting involved. If someone can justify not stopping a shoplifter because it's no big deal, let the cops deal with it, the store is insured, they can justify not stopping a molester because that's not my kid, let the cops deal with it, I have to be at the gym in 26 minutes.

I take it you're not familiar with bystander effect (aka Kitty Genovese syndrome). It is VERY EASY to justify not getting involved, no matter how dire the circumstances. (Why didn't any of those 38 people call the cops? Why didn't someone go down and stop the killer? Because they didn't want to risk harm, let the cops deal with it, maybe it's just a lover's quarrel.) The more people can say "it's no big deal," the more likely they are not to do anything.

And if that's not good enough for you, consider that losing $53 worth of meat means the store has to increase prices due to shrinkage, and because they now have to hire a security guard, use antitheft devices, etc. We all pay for everyone's apathy, even when nobody dies.


We'll have to agree to disagree. You're usually pretty reasonable, but in this case your slope is slippery and your equivalence false.
 
2012-06-24 01:10:06 AM

Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: That's when a passerby, Joseph Patrick, saw what was happening, went over to Smith's white 1999 Mercury and yelled at him to stop.

Why the fark would anyone who didn't work at the place bother getting involved?

I better not check your past posts and find out you're one of the fools yelling about how Paterno should have gotten involved in the Sandusky mess.

Shoplifting isn't really in the same ballpark as serial child molestation. If someone's being assaulted sure, step in if you think you can make a difference. But $53 in meat? F*ck that. Even if I was an employee there I'd just let the cops handle it rather than risk getting shot, stabbed, run over, etc.

Getting involved is getting involved. If someone can justify not stopping a shoplifter because it's no big deal, let the cops deal with it, the store is insured, they can justify not stopping a molester because that's not my kid, let the cops deal with it, I have to be at the gym in 26 minutes.

I take it you're not familiar with bystander effect (aka Kitty Genovese syndrome). It is VERY EASY to justify not getting involved, no matter how dire the circumstances. (Why didn't any of those 38 people call the cops? Why didn't someone go down and stop the killer? Because they didn't want to risk harm, let the cops deal with it, maybe it's just a lover's quarrel.) The more people can say "it's no big deal," the more likely they are not to do anything.

And if that's not good enough for you, consider that losing $53 worth of meat means the store has to increase prices due to shrinkage, and because they now have to hire a security guard, use antitheft devices, etc. We all pay for everyone's apathy, even when nobody dies.




So then, are you willing to intercede if a group of young urban dwellers commences a 'flash rob' while you're in a convenience store?
 
2012-06-24 01:20:18 AM
Gryfalcon, you did that quickly and I may have to go inside & put down the phone if we're gonna have a deep-dive : )

Thing is, I agree that people often don't step up when they should and i'll spare you the csb when I have.
Bottom-line: your equating letting someone bolt with some meat to watching a child molestation and taking no action is, frankly, bullshiat
 
2012-06-24 02:23:28 AM
my elderly 91 year old grandmother has owned a trailer park for over 50 year, I remember a couple years back this crackhead head come and try to Sell her (keep in mind now she's for foot 8 inches in about 90 pounds and live alone) these 50 pounds sacks of giant baking potatoes... she prolly couldn't finish that sack by herself in a year. He was weirdly aggressive, insisting she needed the potatoes while the whole time dropping the price until he got down to about 5 dollars a sack at which point he is begging her to buy a sack. Needless to say he didn't buy any potatoes. I often picture in my mind him on the corner, trying to trade potatoes for crack.
 
2012-06-24 03:00:58 AM

Gyrfalcon: Apathy isn't something most people can just turn on and off. It's a progression from "Shoplifting is not my problem" to "Calling the cops is not my problem" to "Stopping a molester is not my problem."


Yeah, you're full of shiat.
 
2012-06-24 03:44:33 AM

jsh1972: my elderly 91 year old grandmother has owned a trailer park for over 50 year, I remember a couple years back this crackhead head come and try to Sell her (keep in mind now she's for foot 8 inches in about 90 pounds and live alone) these 50 pounds sacks of giant baking potatoes... she prolly couldn't finish that sack by herself in a year. He was weirdly aggressive, insisting she needed the potatoes while the whole time dropping the price until he got down to about 5 dollars a sack at which point he is begging her to buy a sack. Needless to say he didn't buy any potatoes. I often picture in my mind him on the corner, trying to trade potatoes for crack.



So you sold the spuds for crack?
 
2012-06-24 03:50:16 AM

amidoinitright: Reminds of when I was sitting on my brothers front porch drinking a beer when a questionable character on a bicycle rides past. "Hey guys, wanna buy some t-bones?" He opens up his vest to display the goods. Yum, T-bones lightly marinated in 6 day old armpit juice.


See? This is the problem with people. You were offered a golden opportunity for cheap steaks, and you, like most plebians, simply passed it by. Sure, maybe his current selection wasn't up to your standards, but that was a grade A employee willing to bust his ass and assume risk just to save you a dollar. Ask him to steal some zip lock bags and properly store them, and I bet that man comes back within 30 minutes with exactly what you want. You need to leverage peoples strengths while helping them with their weaknesses. THAT'S how you get ahead in life.

/damn 99% and their inability to create jobs
 
2012-06-24 03:58:17 AM

elffster: jsh1972: my elderly 91 year old grandmother has owned a trailer park for over 50 year, I remember a couple years back this crackhead head come and try to Sell her (keep in mind now she's for foot 8 inches in about 90 pounds and live alone) these 50 pounds sacks of giant baking potatoes... she prolly couldn't finish that sack by herself in a year. He was weirdly aggressive, insisting she needed the potatoes while the whole time dropping the price until he got down to about 5 dollars a sack at which point he is begging her to buy a sack. Needless to say he didn't buy any potatoes. I often picture in my mind him on the corner, trying to trade potatoes for crack.


So you sold the spuds for crack?

Noooo, of course not.

/I would have sold them for heroin.
 
2012-06-24 06:02:25 AM

Boudica's War Tampon: Craig Ferguson tells the famous story of Chicken Margaret of Glasgow, the shoplifter of frozen chickens.


That was great. Short and to the point.
And funny.
 
2012-06-24 06:35:35 AM
I was afraid I might be the only TPB fan here but am leaving quite content
 
2012-06-24 06:37:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocLwRlbn1-E NSFW language
 
2012-06-24 06:44:46 AM

jsh1972: keep in mind now she's for foot 8 inches in about 90 pounds and live alone


that's awesome
 
2012-06-24 07:34:55 AM

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Larry Kroger at the Food King

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2012-06-24 08:43:04 AM
Richard Homer Smith, 56, remained in jail Saturday and was charged with petit theft, failing to stop and remain at an accident involving injury and improper backing.

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2012-06-24 10:11:37 AM

Big Ramifications: RibbyK: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x218]
Larry Kroger at the Food King
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Boon was only trying to keep Pinto's sweater cold
 
2012-06-24 11:28:41 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Richard Homer Smith, 56, remained in jail Saturday and was charged with petit theft, failing to stop and remain at an accident involving injury and improper backing.

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get off the computer. NOW!!!
 
2012-06-24 12:10:27 PM

mephisto6: fusillade762: That's when a passerby, Joseph Patrick, saw what was happening, went over to Smith's white 1999 Mercury and yelled at him to stop.

Why the fark would anyone who didn't work at the place bother getting involved?

I watched a beer-run at this place by my house awhile back. I was grabbing a 6 of Stella, when 2 kids (looked about 15), lugged two cases of Bud or something up to the counter.
It was the strangest beer-run I've seen. Why rush to the counter and wait for them to ask for ID?

When they bolted, the guy started towards the door, then said "f*ckers" and meandered on back. Wasn't his shiat or mine either. Mumbled something about having to fill out a goddamn incident report, then turned to me.

I pointed at my 6-pack, nodded at the door & said, "so. can I just..."
He sighed and said something about rather you wouldn't, so I got my debit card out and we went about the day.

That store was out $22 or something.


The real crime is that you bought Stella.
 
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