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(Miami Herald)   Three Miami top chefs to hold weekend cook-off featuring python, wild boar and lionfish, to encourage Floridians to start eating the local invasive species   (miamiherald.com) divider line 98
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2012-06-23 04:06:43 PM  
They want Floridians to eat old people moving south?
 
2012-06-23 04:55:49 PM  
This is sort of like the Snakehead fishing tournament they hold up here. Rules are each fish has to be killed, and there's a big cookout at the end.
 
2012-06-23 04:57:54 PM  
My python boots are too tight.
 
2012-06-23 05:22:51 PM  
I love smoked turkey, when it's not too expensive.
 
2012-06-23 06:23:41 PM  
I have a friend who goes out boar hunting around here, cooks 'em in his smoker. Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing? If so then I guess I'm a stupid Floridian, but that shiat is delicious.
 
2012-06-23 06:49:26 PM  
Tastes like chicken
 
2012-06-23 06:51:53 PM  
Should be eating Guido, Snowbird, and French-Canadian Loons.
 
2012-06-23 06:52:28 PM  
Is there a system of commercial harvesting and distribution for these invasive species?

Once you open up the purchasing channels then suppliers will make a dent. You might have to subsidize something at some point to get the chain going but then it will be self sufficient until the invasive species are rare. Then economics becomes a cyclical predator.
 
2012-06-23 06:54:00 PM  
I've had lionfish pizza while in Bonaire and its actually pretty good - not too fishy tasting.
 
2012-06-23 06:54:39 PM  

wyltoknow: I have a friend who goes out boar hunting around here, cooks 'em in his smoker. Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing? If so then I guess I'm a stupid Floridian, but that shiat is delicious.


We've got a place here in Portland that serves boar tacos. Need to try them sometime.
 
2012-06-23 06:56:00 PM  

Trapped87: not too fishy tasting


Just for the record, if you are eating fish and it tastes fishy it's because it isn't fresh.
 
2012-06-23 06:56:15 PM  
Encouraging Floridians to catch venomous lionfish, or hunt huge pythons or aggressive boars, is a win-win situation.

The invasive species get rarer, and the dumber Floridians get weeded out.
 
2012-06-23 06:57:06 PM  
Cuban Sandwich?
 
2012-06-23 06:59:14 PM  

fusillade762: wyltoknow: I have a friend who goes out boar hunting around here, cooks 'em in his smoker. Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing? If so then I guess I'm a stupid Floridian, but that shiat is delicious.

We've got a place here in Portland that serves boar tacos. Need to try them sometime.


Really? Where?
 
2012-06-23 07:00:43 PM  
I'm sure it'll be easier than the cook-off featuring C++.
 
2012-06-23 07:04:31 PM  

"... to encourage Floridians to start eating the local invasive species "


So, Canadian Snowbirds, then?

 
2012-06-23 07:10:08 PM  
"Invasivore" would be a great name for a metal band.
 
2012-06-23 07:11:26 PM  
I've had lionfish - it's pretty farking tasty. My understanding is that it's a biatch to catch, so the economics aren't quite there to make it commercially viable.
 
2012-06-23 07:12:35 PM  
Invasive species? They gonna put snowbirds on the menu too?
 
2012-06-23 07:14:13 PM  

fusillade762: wyltoknow: I have a friend who goes out boar hunting around here, cooks 'em in his smoker. Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing? If so then I guess I'm a stupid Floridian, but that shiat is delicious.

We've got a place here in Portland that serves boar tacos. Need to try them sometime.



There's also a place that serves an excellent boar ragu- can't remember the name, though.
 
2012-06-23 07:14:29 PM  

Edsel: I've had lionfish - it's pretty farking tasty. My understanding is that it's a biatch to catch, so the economics aren't quite there to make it commercially viable.


That's because they'll fark you up.
 
2012-06-23 07:18:50 PM  
Mmmm..wild boar cooked slow over a cooker or a pit. Pull it apart, add your favorite bbq sauce. Win.
 
2012-06-23 07:20:00 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Mmmm..wild boar cooked slow over a cooker or a pit. Pull it apart, add your favorite bbq sauce. Win.


Why would you add BBQ sauce?

Just take a slice and get to it.
 
2012-06-23 07:24:49 PM  

buckler: fusillade762: wyltoknow: I have a friend who goes out boar hunting around here, cooks 'em in his smoker. Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing? If so then I guess I'm a stupid Floridian, but that shiat is delicious.

We've got a place here in Portland that serves boar tacos. Need to try them sometime.

Really? Where?


Pok Pok

Though I was mistaken, it's not in a taco. 2nd item down under "Charcoal grilled specialties" on the right side of the menu page.
 
2012-06-23 07:29:45 PM  

wyltoknow: I have a friend who goes out boar hunting around here, cooks 'em in his smoker. Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing? If so then I guess I'm a stupid Floridian, but that shiat is delicious.


I actually see this article as a good thing both for and about Florida, and as a good example for other states with edible invasive species. If it's edible and invasive, we should be eating the fark out of it. Boar is DAMN good. If python is anything like rattlesnake, it'll be pretty tasty too. Never had lionfish, so I can't comment there.
 
2012-06-23 07:30:14 PM  

nimeye: fusillade762: wyltoknow: I have a friend who goes out boar hunting around here, cooks 'em in his smoker. Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing? If so then I guess I'm a stupid Floridian, but that shiat is delicious.

We've got a place here in Portland that serves boar tacos. Need to try them sometime.

There's also a place that serves an excellent boar ragu- can't remember the name, though.


Giorgio's
 
2012-06-23 07:32:08 PM  
from ocean.pacific import lionfish
 
2012-06-23 07:32:43 PM  
Nutria: The other white swamp rat

Nutria are everywhere. Have seen this little mutherfarkers in Oregon.
 
2012-06-23 07:32:57 PM  

wildcardjack: Is there a system of commercial harvesting and distribution for these invasive species?

Once you open up the purchasing channels then suppliers will make a dent. You might have to subsidize something at some point to get the chain going but then it will be self sufficient until the invasive species are rare. Then economics becomes a cyclical predator.


I don't know if there is a lot of commercial demand for any of these, but the hunting/fishing regulations are pretty lax for all of them.

For wild pigs/boars you don't even need a hunting permit if you are on private land, and there is no season limit or bag limit. For public land you need a hunting license, but the approved season is most of the year.

For pythons you don't need a hunting license for private land and there is no bag limit, but you do need to sign up for the python hunting program if you want to catch them in the everglades.

For lionfish all you need is a recreational fishing license and you can catch up to 100lbs.
 
2012-06-23 07:33:36 PM  
They could put a bounty on each python, say 10 or 20 bucks. Within a few years, the population would go Passenger Pigeon or American Bison. Ditto with pretty much any invasive species. If unemployed high school kids could go out and collect hundreds of dollars in bounties every week, it would help the local economy too.
 
2012-06-23 07:36:51 PM  

Jgok: wyltoknow: I have a friend who goes out boar hunting around here, cooks 'em in his smoker. Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing? If so then I guess I'm a stupid Floridian, but that shiat is delicious.

I actually see this article as a good thing both for and about Florida, and as a good example for other states with edible invasive species. If it's edible and invasive, we should be eating the fark out of it. Boar is DAMN good. If python is anything like rattlesnake, it'll be pretty tasty too. Never had lionfish, so I can't comment there.


Many landowners will allow hunters free access to their land to hunt wild hogs. The wild hogs are a nuisance that destroy crops, harass livestock (and sometimes eat the young), and chase out native game species. It's a win-win for the landowners and the hunters - the hunters get free access to a mostly unregulated hunting environment, and the landowners get free removal of a pest species.
 
2012-06-23 07:40:12 PM  
i115.photobucket.com

The face-eating diet is still popular in Miami
 
2012-06-23 07:46:54 PM  

skinink: "... to encourage Floridians to start eating the local invasive species "
So, Canadian Snowbirds, then?


The Ohio variety too.
 
2012-06-23 07:49:36 PM  

wyltoknow: . Is this supposed to be a "omg look at dem stupid Floridians" thing?


No, actually I think it's an instance of something cool being done in florida.

I could go for a leg of roast boar right now, with mashed potatoes and gravy.

/northeasterner
 
2012-06-23 07:51:25 PM  
Watch out for brain worms!
 
2012-06-23 07:52:03 PM  

Welfare Xmas: Trapped87: not too fishy tasting

Just for the record, if you are eating fish and it tastes fishy it's because it isn't fresh.


Or ots mackeral
 
2012-06-23 07:54:55 PM  

wildcardjack: Is there a system of commercial harvesting and distribution for these invasive species?

Once you open up the purchasing channels then suppliers will make a dent. You might have to subsidize something at some point to get the chain going but then it will be self sufficient until the invasive species are rare. Then economics becomes a cyclical predator.


SUBSIDIZE? But that's socialism!

JungleBoogie: They could put a bounty on each python, say 10 or 20 bucks. Within a few years, the population would go Passenger Pigeon or American Bison. Ditto with pretty much any invasive species. If unemployed high school kids could go out and collect hundreds of dollars in bounties every week, it would help the local economy too.


Just what we need: thousands of unemployed high school kids wandering through the Everglades with guns. What could possibly go wrong?
 
2012-06-23 07:55:49 PM  
Any one mention snow birds yet? No?

/disappoint
 
2012-06-23 07:56:31 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: They want Floridians to eat old people moving south?


Done in one.
 
2012-06-23 07:56:52 PM  

DORMAMU: Any one mention snow birds yet? No?

/disappoint


CTRL-F much?
 
2012-06-23 07:58:05 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: wildcardjack: Is there a system of commercial harvesting and distribution for these invasive species?

Once you open up the purchasing channels then suppliers will make a dent. You might have to subsidize something at some point to get the chain going but then it will be self sufficient until the invasive species are rare. Then economics becomes a cyclical predator.

SUBSIDIZE? But that's socialism!

JungleBoogie: They could put a bounty on each python, say 10 or 20 bucks. Within a few years, the population would go Passenger Pigeon or American Bison. Ditto with pretty much any invasive species. If unemployed high school kids could go out and collect hundreds of dollars in bounties every week, it would help the local economy too.

Just what we need: thousands of unemployed high school kids wandering through the Everglades with guns. What could possibly go wrong?


What could go wrong?


Darwinism in florida?


/grabs popcorn & beer
 
2012-06-23 07:58:18 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: They want Floridians to eat old people moving south?


Only older Jewish retirees will be served for those asking to keep Kosher.
 
2012-06-23 07:59:51 PM  
We got plenty of wild pigs in Texas as well, come on down and blast 'em, be my guest.

They are also a huge problem in Hawa'ii, where they are destroying the environment.

Help save the environment-----support big game hunting.
 
2012-06-23 08:00:22 PM  

Welfare Xmas: DORMAMU: Any one mention snow birds yet? No?

/disappoint

CTRL-F much?


Well that took less time to snag one than I thought it would...
 
2012-06-23 08:01:23 PM  

MAYORBOB: FirstNationalBastard: They want Floridians to eat old people moving south?

Only older Jewish retirees will be served for those asking to keep Kosher.


*snort*

Well played
 
2012-06-23 08:05:23 PM  
Boar have been in Florida since Ponce de Leon. Or maybe it was De Soto. Regardless, that's like 500 years. How long does it take to qualify as native?
 
2012-06-23 08:06:08 PM  
What, no REAL Cuban sammich on the menu??
 
2012-06-23 08:11:52 PM  

skinink: "... to encourage Floridians to start eating the local invasive species "
So, Canadian Snowbirds, then?


Someone has to bring some money to your economy.
 
2012-06-23 08:15:06 PM  
Have hunted hogs locally when I was in high school. Now i prefer to let the kids do it and reap the rewards. The trick is to catch them live, and put them in a pen. Feed them corn for about 6 months then voila tasty ribs, etc in the smoker. I've got friends who supply local charity events with them. As far as lionfish it is my understanding that the best way to catch them is to spear them. They may or may not bite on regular bottom fishing gear. Pythons, no clue. I live north of the everglades. This event sounds cool, wish I could get down there.
 
2012-06-23 08:16:11 PM  

revrendjim: Boar have been in Florida since Ponce de Leon. Or maybe it was De Soto. Regardless, that's like 500 years. How long does it take to qualify as native?


Ecosystems evolve over millenia, and Florida's hasn't had time to adapt especially with the increased impact of humans and development. There are some natural predators to the wild hogs in FL like alligators, panthers, and bears, but all of those have been pushed farther and farther away by the encroach of civilization. Florida Panthers have become endangered and tend to avoid people as it is, and people freak out when large alligators and bears start wandering into their neighborhoods, so wildlife control has to take them out, while the hogs merrily hang out and keep causing trouble.
 
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