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(Buzzfeed)   You remember that Anti-Obama painter? Well, he's at it again, and here is his latest masterpiece   (buzzfeed.com) divider line 652
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2012-06-24 12:49:03 AM

Death_Poot: I just want to know, how is that any different from this, except for your political perspective:

[ttoes.files.wordpress.com image 640x909]

Go on, give me a rational, non emotional, non name calling explanation, without calling me racist, etc


The difference is one is supposed to be a positive message about getting America working again, and the other is supposed to be a negative message about how much Obama hates the Constitution.

Another big difference is that this is only one in a SERIES of paintings about how much Obama hates the Constitution.
 
2012-06-24 12:51:53 AM

puffy999: The funniest thing about that picture is that the man is holding dollar bills.

I bet you could take the talented, albeit insane, man who makes this art and back him into a logical corner within two seconds.


One thing I would love to ask him in person:

"In your most famous painting (with Jesus and the Constitution), your website says when you hover the mouse over Thomas Jefferson that he intended the 'wall of separation between Church and State' that he wrote about to be taken as a wall that only blocks the government from controlling or interfering with religion, not the other way around.

"Okay, you're an artist, right? Here's a blank piece of paper. Draw a sketch of this wall (not door, gate, turnstile, ramp, or whatever: Jefferson specifically called it a wall! Double-you, Aye, Ell, Ell, wall!) that could've been constructed using any technology that Jefferson would've known about, that blocks passage only from one side to the other, but freely allows passage in the opposite direction."
 
2012-06-24 12:52:41 AM

runcible spork: Death_Poot: ...apart from the obama painting being adopted as a campaign tool, there is no difference.

If you honestly cannot discern a difference other than that between the two, then I'm afraid you lack subtlety in a variety of areas: formal expression, representation, composition, purpose, etc.

scruffy1: ... He claims that he has no political message and I believe that he honestly believes it in the same way that a blind person believes that the only color in the world is "darkness," that's what he has been led to believe all his life therefore it must be true, and anyone that doesn't believe the same, well there is something wrong with them.

C'mon, even a blind person with a smidgen on awareness is able to appreciate that just because they are physically unable to perceive something that is eminently provable doesn't mean that they can't accept its objective veracity. Unless... did you mean a blind person deprived of contact with sighted people?


Yes I shoulda specified that part.
 
2012-06-24 12:56:31 AM

skepticultist: So I posted on this douchebag's Facebook, telling him that he's like Norman Rockwell reborn...without any taste, grace or human decency. I suggest y'all take a moment to stop by his Facebook page and let him know what you think of his art as well.


To what end? It wouldn't make me feel better and if I were him I'd say 'Sorry, I cant hear you over the large piles of money being dumped in my lap.'

Like I've said, hating Democrats is one of the most profitable ventures out there.
 
2012-06-24 12:57:42 AM

Fista-Phobia: So lack of pic posting leads to alts.


www.empireonline.com

Alts lead to confusion...

Confusion leads to fear...

Fear leads to erectile dysfunction...

Erectile dysfunction is the path to the dark side.
 
2012-06-24 12:59:35 AM
I'm the libiest lib that ever libed and I think that a collection of those would be an interesting cover for my walls. I'd get a good background color for the walls and hang them up. They'd make great discussion pieces when we have guests over.

I don't know if I'd have 'Obama burning the Constitution' or 'Jesus Holding the Constitution' above my TV/faux-fireplace and, thus, my centerpiece.
 
2012-06-24 01:05:21 AM
I like this one it's like a where's waldo, except you find the brown guy (who's not Obama).
s3-ec.buzzfed.com
 
2012-06-24 01:07:24 AM

Death_Poot: I just want to know...



Also:

img205.imageshack.us25.media.tumblr.com

That's another critical difference. Has to do with purpose and use.
 
2012-06-24 01:08:37 AM

gimmegimme: Fista-Phobia: So lack of pic posting leads to alts.

[www.empireonline.com image 355x400]

Alts lead to confusion...

Confusion leads to fear...

Fear leads to erectile dysfunction...

Erectile dysfunction is the path to the dark side.


But I promise I'll return to complete my training!
 
2012-06-24 01:09:29 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-24 01:10:25 AM
img716.imageshack.us
 
2012-06-24 01:13:01 AM

Rich Cream: [img716.imageshack.us image 494x457]


HA!
 
2012-06-24 01:14:01 AM

ultraholland: Rashnu: I'm guessing Obama put these people in chains just to protect that chicken from getting brutally f*cked.

what the hell are Kim Jong-il and Dinnerjacket doing back there?


It's to show that Obama is a Communist Islamofascist Royalist (saw a Saudi royal in there as well).
 
2012-06-24 01:14:51 AM

runcible spork: Death_Poot: I just want to know...

Also:

[img205.imageshack.us image 50x75][25.media.tumblr.com image 93x75]

That's another critical difference. Has to do with purpose and use.



Whoops, used a "HOPE" version instead of the "CHANGE" version in the original comment. Doesn't matter, that would have been legible too. And just imagine if I'd resized them to the same area rather than height!
 
2012-06-24 01:19:18 AM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Jim_Callahan: Sadly, I made the mistake of studying real history 'n shiat

So you're one of them edgucated libural elitists then? Why you hate Murika, whie?


To be fair, before I started hanging out here I always assumed that basic civics and a working knowledge of at least US history pre-WW2 was standard. So I'm really only evaluating my education as thorough in context, not claiming to be a master historian or anything.

But, yeah, I have the PhD (albeit not in liberal arts) and am a registered Democrat and a de facto Rochdale Socialist (not the same as Marxism, which is what's usually used to mark the "far left").

intelligent comment below: Yeah, the nerve of that guy for reacting to the Confederacy taking up arms against the Constitution and the states.


Forgive me for not being particularly fond of a guy that literally sent the army to burn down a number of newspapers that published negative opinion pieces on his administration. Or praising the brilliant policy of not really coordinating war strategy at the national level and leaving it to a dozen generals to ad lib, extending the war for years longer than it should have lasted, and then finally settling on the guy that essentially threw bodies into the meat grinder until they jammed it to do the final push.

I know Lincoln was there when the stuff ended and got some PR bonus points for dying in office, but frankly the north mostly won the war in spite of his administration, not because of.
 
2012-06-24 01:20:39 AM

Fista-Phobia: Rich Cream: [img716.imageshack.us image 494x457]

HA!


I don't get it.

There is no spoon?
 
2012-06-24 01:21:09 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Zmog: I wanna know what that guy has in his pocket. Looks like he shoved a daily wage's worth of cheeseburgers in there. Or possibly a bunch of ferrets.



The Empowered Man

He represents every man, woman and child of every color and creed who is an American. Like you and me, he hopes for a better life, to find the American dream of happiness and prosperity. But now, because of unconstitutional acts imposed upon the American people by our government we stand on the precipice of disaster. What will his opportunities be in the future? Will he ever have a chance to realize the American Dream?

Yes! He has got off his bench, ripped the Constitution out from under the feet of Obama and holds it up to the world. He is empowered to save our nation.

How? He understands the Constitution and liberties and laws therein. He also carries a Bible in his right coat pocket. He knows from where his true empowerment comes.


Thats hilarious, because a good chunk of the 10 commandments are incompatible with the US Constitution, and many of whats left are meant for the states to handle.
 
2012-06-24 01:25:08 AM

vygramul: Fista-Phobia: Rich Cream: [img716.imageshack.us image 494x457]

HA!

I don't get it.

There is no spoon?


It's all ball bearings nowadays.
 
2012-06-24 01:25:56 AM

Jim_Callahan: To be fair, before I started hanging out here I always assumed that basic civics and a working knowledge of at least US history pre-WW2 was standard. So I'm really only evaluating my education as thorough in context, not claiming to be a master historian or anything.


You'll be pleased to know that a knowledge of US history post-WW2 is also also non-standard for most Americans
 
2012-06-24 01:32:25 AM

Lsherm:
For all the idiots glomming onto this guy's paintings, 50 million more looked at that and thought Obama was going to "change the world."

Idiots abound.


Actually, most of us looked at the opposition and recoiled in abject horror.
 
2012-06-24 01:32:38 AM

hillbillypharmacist: Why would Wall Street and socialist organization support the same dude?


Because socialist policies benefit the top 0.01%
 
2012-06-24 01:34:07 AM
Wait... so all I have to do is paint some moronic shiat that will appeal the baser instincts of conservatives and slap a huge price tag on it and I'll be rich? hmmm... might just have to do that.
 
2012-06-24 01:35:18 AM

vygramul: Fista-Phobia: Rich Cream: [img716.imageshack.us image 494x457]

HA!

I don't get it.

There is no spoon?


Or there's that article about the secret service taking away cutlery before he appeared at a function today.
 
2012-06-24 01:39:40 AM

Lsherm: For all the idiots glomming onto this guy's paintings, 50 million more looked at that and thought Obama was going to "change the world."

Idiots abound.



Who would have thought Republicans obstructing government makes sure nothing get done?
 
2012-06-24 01:42:11 AM

Paul Baumer: Do we have freedom when half the country pays taxes to support the other half?

I know it's just a talking point but lord that one trolls me proper every time. I guess children, retirees, housewives and the disabled need to start paying taxes and so this chump can skimp on his share.


Pesky facts and figures.
 
2012-06-24 01:42:32 AM

Ed Grubermann: Lsherm:
For all the idiots glomming onto this guy's paintings, 50 million more looked at that and thought Obama was going to "change the world."

Idiots abound.

Actually, most of us looked at the opposition and recoiled in abject horror.


Agreed. For some of us Obama wasn't the answer. He was just the choice that wasn't nearly as bad. It will be like that in November.
 
2012-06-24 01:43:35 AM

Death_Poot: I just want to know, how is that any different from this, except for your political perspective:

[ttoes.files.wordpress.com image 640x909]

Go on, give me a rational, non emotional, non name calling explanation, without calling me racist, etc


That picture one is iconic. This isn't. Observe it's simplicity in comparison to the maelstrom of "symbolism" in the more conservative paintings. These paintings are noisy in their subject matter, dreary in their color schemes. The morass of elements in these paintings mix together into a bland sea of grey. The Change poster is stark, high-contrast, and yet deep in emotion.

tl:dr Less is more.

/sorry, I sometimes get melodramatic when talking about art.
 
2012-06-24 01:43:56 AM

SouthernFriedYankee: Paul Baumer: Do we have freedom when half the country pays taxes to support the other half?

I know it's just a talking point but lord that one trolls me proper every time. I guess children, retirees, housewives and the disabled need to start paying taxes and so this chump can skimp on his share.

Pesky facts and figures.


Because federal income taxes are the only taxes people pay*.


*if you are so ignorant that retarded people think you are stupid.
 
2012-06-24 01:44:06 AM

Jim_Callahan: To be fair, before I started hanging out here I always assumed that basic civics and a working knowledge of at least US history pre-WW2 was standard.


Yeah, the internet will shatter one's faith in the human condition, that's for sure. And what's really sad is that this is the best internet forum I've found in terms of people that actually understand things, excluding professional organization websites.
 
2012-06-24 01:45:15 AM

Mrfusticle: I'd bet my left one that the your founding fathers would hate the current Republican agitprop with the intensity of a thousand suns.
They were mostly Deists after all.


I agree.

/Deist
 
2012-06-24 01:56:47 AM
This guy can't even follow the same damn visual metaphors.

In the first pic, the guy is ignoring the cash as he cuts free of the system. In the second pic he clearly has a stack of cash in his hands.

Perhaps he is simply illustrating the duality of nature that tea party patriots feel when cashing their social security checks, all the while biatching about the government and how evil it is.
 
2012-06-24 02:01:25 AM

rubi_con_man: If the government can gently reduce the liquidity of the market at the point where it starts to go wrong, then strong economic growth occurs.


Ironically, the Chinese communists avoided a crash by raising interest rates a bit, but what they really did was raise the margin requirements on the banks; actually they raised them a few times during the blowing of the worldwide real estate bubble. They suffered to an extent when all the western private-central-bank countries went blooey, but because they didn't let speculation get out of hand, it didn't hurt them nearly as bad.

How sad, that communists understood this better than supposed capitalists. Then again, what we have is crony capitalism, aka corporatism. Our bunch of thieves understood it - they simply didn't care.
 
2012-06-24 02:03:09 AM

runcible spork: And just imagine if I'd resized them to the same area rather than height!



img205.imageshack.us25.media.tumblr.com
25.media.tumblr.com

(3750 pixel2, 3864 pixel2, 3740 pixel2)


/ yes, I'm off on my own track.
 
2012-06-24 02:04:10 AM

cman: I can't wait to see how this will be described as somehow racist. That will be fun to watch


Pathetic troll.
 
2012-06-24 02:10:31 AM
SouthernFriedYankee: Ironically, the Chinese communists avoided a crash by raising interest rates a bit, but what they really did was raise the margin requirements on the banks; actually they raised them a few times during the blowing of the worldwide real estate bubble. They suffered to an extent when all the western private-central-bank countries went blooey, but because they didn't let speculation get out of hand, it didn't hurt them nearly as bad.

How sad, that communists understood this better than supposed capitalists. Then again, what we have is crony capitalism, aka corporatism. Our bunch of thieves understood it - they simply didn't care.


And how different is corporatism from fascism when corporations are legally empowered to practically buy government? >shudder<
 
2012-06-24 02:15:15 AM

SouthernFriedYankee: Paul Baumer: Do we have freedom when half the country pays taxes to support the other half?

I know it's just a talking point but lord that one trolls me proper every time. I guess children, retirees, housewives and the disabled need to start paying taxes and so this chump can skimp on his share.

Pesky facts and figures.


None of which really abnegate the point - people who make little to no income but have a federal tax filing requirement aren't some cabal of freeloaders - they are simply people who make little to no income. I don't really see them as some sort of privileged class that are undertaxed to the detriment of our society. The implication of such a statement is clear though, that some folk actually believe this to be the case. Do you think taxes ought be levied on this class of people, and if so to what extent?
 
2012-06-24 02:20:01 AM

intelligent comment below: Oh great, another Fark Independent "Both sides are bad" troll


So disagreeing with leftism makes one a troll, and eveything one says "derp."

Ok. As long as I understand your logic, and your debate skills.

I will offer concrete facts to support my position, thankyouverymuch:

Estonia I

Estonia II

Estonia III

I wish I had another example than this one country, but unfortunately, everyone else is trying the same old Keynesian stuff which is not going to work. When another country decides to get a clue, I'll let you know. You won't listen, I imagine, but I'll still let you know.
 
2012-06-24 02:20:09 AM

JohnnyC: Wait... so all I have to do is paint some moronic shiat that will appeal the baser instincts of conservatives and slap a huge price tag on it and I'll be rich? hmmm... might just have to do that.


Pfft, why bother learning to paint. Just take a picture of a beach, slap a bible quote on it and sell prints for $15 a pop. You'll be rich in no time.
 
2012-06-24 02:24:27 AM

runcible spork: And how different is corporatism from fascism when corporations are legally empowered to practically buy government? >shudder<


Exactly. There is no difference, but to use the word fascism conjures up images that promptly raise cries of "Godwin!!!!11!!1!"
 
2012-06-24 02:24:28 AM

Mr.Tangent: I like this one it's like a where's waldo, except you find the brown guy (who's not Obama).
[s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 625x416]


Dude is about to hacksaw himself in the junk. Also, shouldn't someone be f*cking that chicken (rooster)?
 
2012-06-24 02:27:44 AM
Guy's been huffing too much paint thinner.
 
2012-06-24 02:33:51 AM

Paul Baumer: None of which really abnegate the point - people who make little to no income but have a federal tax filing requirement aren't some cabal of freeloaders - they are simply people who make little to no income. I don't really see them as some sort of privileged class that are undertaxed to the detriment of our society. The implication of such a statement is clear though, that some folk actually believe this to be the case. Do you think taxes ought be levied on this class of people, and if so to what extent?


No, not a cabal of freeloaders. However, the fact that they don't actually pay into the system means they have little to no incentive to want to see the system run in an economically responsible fashion. That's not a good state of affairs, when we're talking about close to half of the citizenry, is it?

It's not a question of wanting to tax the poor*; not only is that a rather cruel idea, but they don't have any money - that's sorta the definition of being poor, right? I've turned over in my head for a long time the question of how to keep people who aren't paying taxes from being able to have a say in how taxes are spent, as there's a complete conflict of interest there. But I haven't come up with anything even remotely feasable.

*Interestingly enough, taxing the crap out of cigarettes, fast food and so forth "because they're bad for you" hits the poor disporportionately hard, and most of the folks advocating those taxes are democrats and other self-identified progressives. I think those sorts of tax policies are also total crap.
 
2012-06-24 02:41:54 AM
Phukking morons. How much bath salts are they consuming that makes them believe a Tea Party Romney world is going to help anyone in the United States except for those who already HAVE "theirs"?
 
2012-06-24 02:46:39 AM

runcible spork: And how different is corporatism from fascism when corporations are legally empowered to practically buy government? >shudder<


Corporatism IS Fascism. That was Mussolini's original term for it when he organized the Italian labor force into non-competitive syndicates.
 
2012-06-24 02:47:06 AM

No Such Agency: ActualFarkal:
RulerOfNone: Political tripe aside, this guy is a rather decent artist.

Ooh! Ooh! You know who ELSE was a rather decent artist?

/Godwinrar
//I has it

Well, except I wouldn't characterize Hitler's work as "rather decent". I'd call it technically competent but dull, lacking in any emotional or evocative component whatsoever. At most it portrays a mawkish idealized sentimentality about his country that would mirror later Nazi attitudes.

[iliketowastemytime.com image 640x417]



NoSuch, I read your comment in Patrick Bateman's voice.
 
2012-06-24 02:53:45 AM

Ishkur: runcible spork: And how different is corporatism from fascism when corporations are legally empowered to practically buy government? >shudder<

Corporatism IS Fascism. That was Mussolini's original term for it when he organized the Italian labor force into non-competitive syndicates.



I admit I'm not a political wonk (thank goodness!) and also that Wikipedia isn't the best authority, but they seem to indicate that fascism is a type of corporatism.
 
2012-06-24 02:56:47 AM

Sabyen91: cman: I can't wait to see how this will be described as somehow racist. That will be fun to watch

Pathetic troll.


You must be new to Fark. If you approve of anything that is anti-Obama, then you're a racist. You must conform, citizen.
 
2012-06-24 02:59:05 AM

Ishkur: runcible spork: And how different is corporatism from fascism when corporations are legally empowered to practically buy government? >shudder<

Corporatism IS Fascism. That was Mussolini's original term for it when he organized the Italian labor force into non-competitive syndicates.


Nuh-uh, fascism is... Like... Arugula death-panels and stuff!
 
2012-06-24 03:08:23 AM

Jim_Callahan: Sadly, I made the mistake of studying real history 'n shiat


Right. Sure. Just like Republicans are "Real Americans."
 
2012-06-24 03:09:12 AM

runcible spork: Jim_Callahan: runcible spork: / I wonder if the Cash-for-Clunkers had any effect on overall automobile emissions?

It was far too limited in scope to make any real difference in emissions. The potential environmental effect was sort of a bonus, the primary reason for the program was to give the auto industry a shot in the arm, sort of an indirect mini-bailout, not to placate the Lorax.

It sorta had some effect there, but obviously didn't make a major difference on those grounds either.

Overall a well-intended program that didn't hurt, but not what you'd call a roaring success either.

Kind of what I assumed. Thanks!


Might have helped lower the amount of oil the US imports, which has dropped a fair amount lately.
 
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