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2012-06-23 07:59:55 PM  

Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.


Arizona is for hating. Florida is for making fun of.
 
2012-06-23 08:02:12 PM  

Assimilate This: Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.

It's because of the 2000 election. Farkers have never forgiven Florida for that, nor will they. If Gore had been president, none of this would have happened.


You had me until that last sentence. 6/10.
 
2012-06-23 08:04:05 PM  

Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.


It's just jealousy.
 
2012-06-23 08:08:39 PM  
cant we solve this TODAY?
announce that floriduh is on their own,starting today, unless they start building levees and dikes. If they dont, we just need to build a wall and not let them north ...

fark EM
everyone KNOWS that the end is coming, is ANYONE doing ANYTHING to prepare??
bahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha
 
2012-06-23 08:09:24 PM  

chuckufarlie: according to scientists in Liverpool, England, the ocean levels have been rising for the last 1000 years. That makes it rather difficult to put the blame on global warming unless you are really, really stupid.

Sadly, the people who believe in global warming are really, really, really stupid.


Good thing it's been called climate change for the last thirty years.

Also, care to explain why increasing levels of CO2 have made it basically impossible for oysters reproduce in Oregon if CO2 (the main cause of climate change) hasn't been increasing? I'll wait.
 
2012-06-23 08:11:20 PM  

platedlizard: chuckufarlie: according to scientists in Liverpool, England, the ocean levels have been rising for the last 1000 years. That makes it rather difficult to put the blame on global warming unless you are really, really stupid.

Sadly, the people who believe in global warming are really, really, really stupid.

Good thing it's been called climate change for the last thirty years.

Also, care to explain why increasing levels of CO2 have made it basically impossible for oysters reproduce in Oregon if CO2 (the main cause of climate change) hasn't been increasing? I'll wait.


toss in some viagra?
(reads article)
toss in some baking soda?

;-)

I kid
I kid
 
2012-06-23 08:13:53 PM  

Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.


Here's how I see it: all the crazies who wanted to go to California but were too big a failure ended up in Florida.
 
2012-06-23 08:13:56 PM  

slotz: Assimilate This: Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.

It's because of the 2000 election. Farkers have never forgiven Florida for that, nor will they. If Gore had been president, none of this would have happened.

You had me until that last sentence. 6/10.


By "this" I mean Fark rage at Florida, not global warming. If the 2000 election had gone the other way, Florida would be just another state with stupid coming out of it.
 
2012-06-23 08:15:07 PM  

Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.


The one time I was in Florida I was listening to the local radio, which was airing commercials for some "adult" store. I learned that I could get all manner of interesting purchases, including sexy lingerie "also available in plus sizes".

That pretty much answered all the questions I had about the state.
 
2012-06-23 08:24:18 PM  

Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.


I was born there, The hate is justified.

Don't Judge MEEEEE!!!!
 
2012-06-23 08:28:40 PM  

platedlizard: chuckufarlie: according to scientists in Liverpool, England, the ocean levels have been rising for the last 1000 years. That makes it rather difficult to put the blame on global warming unless you are really, really stupid.

Sadly, the people who believe in global warming are really, really, really stupid.

Good thing it's been called climate change for the last thirty years.

Also, care to explain why increasing levels of CO2 have made it basically impossible for oysters reproduce in Oregon if CO2 (the main cause of climate change) hasn't been increasing? I'll wait.


1. It is called anthropogenic global warming (AGW) Always has been, always will be,

2. Can you prove:
 
2012-06-23 08:31:00 PM  

platedlizard: chuckufarlie: according to scientists in Liverpool, England, the ocean levels have been rising for the last 1000 years. That makes it rather difficult to put the blame on global warming unless you are really, really stupid.

Sadly, the people who believe in global warming are really, really, really stupid.

Good thing it's been called climate change for the last thirty years.

Also, care to explain why increasing levels of CO2 have made it basically impossible for oysters reproduce in Oregon if CO2 (the main cause of climate change) hasn't been increasing? I'll wait.


Can you prove that the increasing levels of CO2 are the cause of the oysters situation?
Can you prove that the CO2 increases causing this problem are not natural increases?

I'll wait,

You see, it is really, really, really, really stupid to make the accusation that you have made without evidence to justify it.
 
2012-06-23 08:34:14 PM  

ghare: Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.

Here's how I see it: all the crazies who wanted to go to California but were too big a failure ended up in Florida.


There are problems in California that are not experienced in Florida - earthquakes, mudslides, raging fires to name a few.

Florida DOES have to deal with hurricanes but with a hurricane you have many days of warning to get to Atlanta. Earthquakes and mudslides do not give a warning.
 
2012-06-23 08:34:21 PM  

chuckufarlie: according to scientists in Liverpool, England, the ocean levels have been rising for the last 1000 years. That makes it rather difficult to put the blame on global warming unless you are really, really stupid.

Sadly, the people who believe in global warming are really, really, really stupid.


I'm gonna go out on a limb here, having done no googles, and say that ocean levels have been rising since the end of the last ice age and will continue to rise until all the goddamn ice melts. Having said that, let's say fark all the science on both sides of the debate and ask yourself what statement seems more correct.

1) For the last 100+ years we have been pumping into the atmosphere the smoke and burned remains of multiple types of fuel, that has been locked in the earths crust for millions of years, at a rate of billions of tons per year (essentially all at once). Surprisingly this has had no effect on the planet.

2) For the last 100+ years we have been pumping into the atmosphere the smoke and burned remains of multiple types of fuel, that has been locked in the earths crust for millions of years, at a rate of billions of tons per year. The effects are many and unpredictable, most of which we have yet to feel the full force of due to the insanely fast pace we burned all that shiat.

I'm in the option 2 camp but for me it's that simple, all the science, while I find it interesting, confuses shiat. Cause and effect however, I can easily wrap my head around and see multiple times per day in almost any situation. The conclusion I came to at a very young age is that "EVERYTHING EFFECTS SOMETHING" this is no different.
 
2012-06-23 08:42:04 PM  
That mountain near the Canary Islands will slide into the ocean and cause a tsunami that will put an end to Florida's problems and relieve us of New York City too
 
2012-06-23 08:48:24 PM  

Avery614: chuckufarlie:


I'd like to add that I would much rather solve a problem that doesn't exist than ignore a problem that does.
 
2012-06-23 08:48:44 PM  

Avery614: chuckufarlie: according to scientists in Liverpool, England, the ocean levels have been rising for the last 1000 years. That makes it rather difficult to put the blame on global warming unless you are really, really stupid.

Sadly, the people who believe in global warming are really, really, really stupid.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, having done no googles, and say that ocean levels have been rising since the end of the last ice age and will continue to rise until all the goddamn ice melts. Having said that, let's say fark all the science on both sides of the debate and ask yourself what statement seems more correct.

1) For the last 100+ years we have been pumping into the atmosphere the smoke and burned remains of multiple types of fuel, that has been locked in the earths crust for millions of years, at a rate of billions of tons per year (essentially all at once). Surprisingly this has had no effect on the planet.

2) For the last 100+ years we have been pumping into the atmosphere the smoke and burned remains of multiple types of fuel, that has been locked in the earths crust for millions of years, at a rate of billions of tons per year. The effects are many and unpredictable, most of which we have yet to feel the full force of due to the insanely fast pace we burned all that shiat.

I'm in the option 2 camp but for me it's that simple, all the science, while I find it interesting, confuses shiat. Cause and effect however, I can easily wrap my head around and see multiple times per day in almost any situation. The conclusion I came to at a very young age is that "EVERYTHING EFFECTS SOMETHING" this is no different.


If you want to accept the idea that the global weather system is as simplistic as a greenhouse, go right ahead and believe it AGW.

But you should also know that CO2 is only a minor contributor to greenhouse gases and the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere that is the result of man's activities is only a very small portion of the total CO2 in the atmosphere. You are worried about something that is only a very small amount of the total.

You should know that since 1850, the total average temperature change has been less than one degree Centigrade. You should also know that we have no accurate idea what the actual temperatures were prior to 1850 because all we have in proxy data. You should also know that the margin of error for that proxy data is almost as big as the total change recorded since 1850. That means that we really have no idea what the trends were prior to 1850.

You should also know that throughout the history of this planet, CO2 increases have always followed an increase in temperature - according to ice core samples.

You should also know that the IPCC has altered the scientific findings in order to make the document more politically acceptable.

There is more too this than just noticing that man produces lots of CO2.
 
2012-06-23 08:50:25 PM  

Avery614: Avery614: chuckufarlie:

I'd like to add that I would much rather solve a problem that doesn't exist than ignore a problem that does.


"solve a problem that does not exist" You are extremely ignorant.
 
2012-06-23 08:53:31 PM  

MAYORBOB: If Florida sinks into the sea, what state will take the lead in Fark Classic links?


Arizona. Followed by TexASS, and then one of either Kansas, Oklahoma, or Kentucky. A red state, basically.
 
2012-06-23 08:55:03 PM  

Rodeodoc: It's from the weight of all the fat ass New Yorkers and Pennsytuckians that bring their lard asses down here. Stay the fark home.


Up here in the hills of North Central PA, we get a huge influx of Hoverround pilots from May thru October.

And they all bring their "Hands off my medicare, no soshullism" derp with them.

That door swings both was sparky.

Something to keep in mind.
 
2012-06-23 09:01:49 PM  

chuckufarlie: There is more too this than just noticing that man produces lots of CO2


I'm not trying to debate any of that (although I do kind of see the earth as one gigantic farking greenhouse). I'm just saying I have a hard time believing that the burning of that much shiat has no effect on the planet, but then I have a hard time believing any action of that magnitude will have no effect on the planet. Warming, cooling, ozone depletion, hell even the effects of removing all that shiat from the ground in the first place, I have no idea what the consequences are but I do believe there will be consequences. I'm not a scientist, I don't pretend to be even remotely capable of extrapolating useful shiat from all the data that's been gathered. I will, more often than not (alright almost always) side with the scientific consensus until adequately proven otherwise. Since there seems to be a bit of a rift I side with my own common sense and science, I'll also admit I could be dead wrong, I just don't think so.

All that being said, my main issue with this entire debacle is that it seems like it has become a "red vs blue" debate. That's the last thing it should be.
 
2012-06-23 09:05:04 PM  

chuckufarlie: "solve a problem that does not exist" You are extremely ignorant.


How is erring on the side of caution ignorant? All I was trying to say was that working on this and finding out we didn't need to is far more appealing than ignoring something until it bites us in the ass.
 
2012-06-23 09:13:48 PM  
Is there anyway we can speed the process back up again?
 
2012-06-23 09:14:20 PM  

Avery614: chuckufarlie: "solve a problem that does not exist" You are extremely ignorant.

How is erring on the side of caution ignorant? All I was trying to say was that working on this and finding out we didn't need to is far more appealing than ignoring something until it bites us in the ass.


You said that you want to solve a problem that does not exist. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist. It is that whole DOES NOT EXIST part that would cause you problems.

Have you seen the proposed solutions for this "problem"? Maybe you should look into it.
 
2012-06-23 09:15:15 PM  

wichitaleaf: Oh snap. I'm goin to key west in a month. Should I bring a boat.


Nope, just plenty of lube.
 
2012-06-23 09:15:37 PM  

Avery614: chuckufarlie: There is more too this than just noticing that man produces lots of CO2

I'm not trying to debate any of that (although I do kind of see the earth as one gigantic farking greenhouse). I'm just saying I have a hard time believing that the burning of that much shiat has no effect on the planet, but then I have a hard time believing any action of that magnitude will have no effect on the planet. Warming, cooling, ozone depletion, hell even the effects of removing all that shiat from the ground in the first place, I have no idea what the consequences are but I do believe there will be consequences. I'm not a scientist, I don't pretend to be even remotely capable of extrapolating useful shiat from all the data that's been gathered. I will, more often than not (alright almost always) side with the scientific consensus until adequately proven otherwise. Since there seems to be a bit of a rift I side with my own common sense and science, I'll also admit I could be dead wrong, I just don't think so.

All that being said, my main issue with this entire debacle is that it seems like it has become a "red vs blue" debate. That's the last thing it should be.


It is a political issue and that is all that it is. Even the IPCC admits that it is. Look into the solutions proposed by the IPCC and then see if you want to sign up.
 
2012-06-23 09:15:45 PM  
Hmm eventually I'll have beach front property.
 
2012-06-23 09:42:00 PM  

chuckufarlie: You said that you want to solve a problem that does not exist. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist. It is that whole DOES NOT EXIST part that would cause you problems.

Have you seen the proposed solutions for this "problem"? Maybe you should look into it.


Oh FFS, I was saying I'd rather work on things like clean energy, reducing emissions, getting off of fossil fuels even if we don't have to rather than sitting around like the farks in Pompeii saying I'm sure that smoking mountain is nothing to worry about.

Insurance policies = Solving problems that don't exist.

You, I assume pay auto insurance even though you may never get into an accident. You have solved a problem that doesn't exist yet and may never exist.

I assume you have life insurance. You have solved the problem of your funeral costs and hopefully some of the financial needs of your loved ones. That problem does not exist yet and my not exist before the end of the policy term.

I see working on getting rid of pollutants, fossil fuels etc. as a sort of planetary insurance policy. Hopefully nothing happens, but if it does we have it covered.
 
2012-06-23 09:42:40 PM  

Bucky Katt: Hmm eventually I'll have beach front property.


if you live another 1000 years, you might.
 
2012-06-23 10:11:26 PM  

Avery614: chuckufarlie: You said that you want to solve a problem that does not exist. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist. It is that whole DOES NOT EXIST part that would cause you problems.

Have you seen the proposed solutions for this "problem"? Maybe you should look into it.

Oh FFS, I was saying I'd rather work on things like clean energy, reducing emissions, getting off of fossil fuels even if we don't have to rather than sitting around like the farks in Pompeii saying I'm sure that smoking mountain is nothing to worry about.

Insurance policies = Solving problems that don't exist.

You, I assume pay auto insurance even though you may never get into an accident. You have solved a problem that doesn't exist yet and may never exist.

I assume you have life insurance. You have solved the problem of your funeral costs and hopefully some of the financial needs of your loved ones. That problem does not exist yet and my not exist before the end of the policy term.

I see working on getting rid of pollutants, fossil fuels etc. as a sort of planetary insurance policy. Hopefully nothing happens, but if it does we have it covered.


You're arguing with a troll who wants to wait till we're all neck deep in meltwater before acknowledging there might be something to deal with. His idea of an insurance policy is to not have one, and then hope his car gets hit by an uninsured motorist who is ALSO a criminal and will be willing to settle.
 
2012-06-23 10:15:54 PM  

Assimilate This: slotz: Assimilate This: Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.

It's because of the 2000 election. Farkers have never forgiven Florida for that, nor will they. If Gore had been president, none of this would have happened.

You had me until that last sentence. 6/10.

By "this" I mean Fark rage at Florida, not global warming. If the 2000 election had gone the other way, Florida would be just another state with stupid coming out of it.


I stand corrected, and defer to your Fark-longevity.
 
2012-06-23 10:31:17 PM  

chuckufarlie: Avery614: chuckufarlie: "solve a problem that does not exist" You are extremely ignorant.

How is erring on the side of caution ignorant? All I was trying to say was that working on this and finding out we didn't need to is far more appealing than ignoring something until it bites us in the ass.

You said that you want to solve a problem that does not exist. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist. It is that whole DOES NOT EXIST part that would cause you problems.

Have you seen the proposed solutions for this "problem"? Maybe you should look into it.


What proposals? Like the one to convert the US off of fossil fuels entirely in 50 years without sacrificing lifestyle, for a total cost of less than one Iraq war? Because those are the types of proposals I read about.
 
2012-06-23 10:36:01 PM  
FTFA: Ben Strauss, chief operating officer of Climate Central, an independent research and journalism organization, warned that much of the southern peninsula south of Lake Okeechobee would be virtually uninhabitable within 250 years.

Disney knew this all along... They'll wind up building oceanfront hotels in Orlando and Clermont.

That will drive up the value of all those RV parks in the surrounding area... At least the ones that don't wind up under water.

How ironic that this is occurring in a state full of people who vote for politicians who tell everyone that none of this is occurring.
 
2012-06-23 10:43:50 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.

Arizona is for hating. Florida is for making fun of.


Actually, the formula is simple...

Florida = Arizona + humidity - state income tax
 
2012-06-23 10:45:35 PM  

BolloxReader: chuckufarlie: Avery614: chuckufarlie: "solve a problem that does not exist" You are extremely ignorant.

How is erring on the side of caution ignorant? All I was trying to say was that working on this and finding out we didn't need to is far more appealing than ignoring something until it bites us in the ass.

You said that you want to solve a problem that does not exist. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist. It is that whole DOES NOT EXIST part that would cause you problems.

Have you seen the proposed solutions for this "problem"? Maybe you should look into it.

What proposals? Like the one to convert the US off of fossil fuels entirely in 50 years without sacrificing lifestyle, for a total cost of less than one Iraq war? Because those are the types of proposals I read about.


That is NOT the proposal. The idea is to penalize companies in first world countries based on the amount of CO2 they emit. The third world and developing countries will not be penalized, instead they will be the beneficiary of the money gathered by penalizing the first world countries. And just to make it a bit worse, China and India are considered developing countries and will be granted money.

Take a look at the pollution pouring out of China and India.

Get it? Corporations that are getting penalized in the USA or other developed countries will see a great incentive to move to third world countries.

The IPCC wants to distribute the wealth of the developed countries to the third world.

IPCC Official: "Climate Policy Is Redistributing The World's Wealth"


Climate policy has almost nothing to do with environmental protection anymore, says the German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world's resources will be negotiated. -Neue Zürcher Zeitung, 14 November 2010
First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore. - Ottmar Edenhofer, Neue Zürcher Zeitung, 14 November 2010
Kyoto is about the economy, about leveling the playing field for big businesses worldwide. -former EU Environment Minister Margot Wallstrom, 2000
Kyoto is essentially a socialist scheme to suck money out of wealth-producing nations.-Stephen Harper, Canadian Prime Minister, 2002
A climate change response must have at its heart a redistribution of wealth and resources. - Emma Brindal, Friends of the Earth, 2007
Blindly accepting Western science's prognosis could have social and economic costs for India. Climate science today is not just a scientific enterprise, but also a political enterprise. - Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh, The Hindu, 17 November 2010

And the only thing that has changed since is that they want to be more extreme.

Link
 
2012-06-23 10:45:37 PM  

Coco LaFemme: MAYORBOB: If Florida sinks into the sea, what state will take the lead in Fark Classic links?

Arizona. Followed by TexASS, and then one of either Kansas, Oklahoma, or Kentucky. A red state, basically.


Michigan may also be a possibility. It's a blue state, but who knows what the future holds. (I love it, but man it has problems right now.)
 
2012-06-23 10:47:01 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: Ben Strauss, chief operating officer of Climate Central, an independent research and journalism organization, warned that much of the southern peninsula south of Lake Okeechobee would be virtually uninhabitable within 250 years.

Disney knew this all along... They'll wind up building oceanfront hotels in Orlando and Clermont.

That will drive up the value of all those RV parks in the surrounding area... At least the ones that don't wind up under water.

How ironic that this is occurring in a state full of people who vote for politicians who tell everyone that none of this is occurring.


what is not happening is AGW.
 
2012-06-23 11:11:10 PM  

Avery614: chuckufarlie: You said that you want to solve a problem that does not exist. You cannot solve a problem that does not exist. It is that whole DOES NOT EXIST part that would cause you problems.

Have you seen the proposed solutions for this "problem"? Maybe you should look into it.

Oh FFS, I was saying I'd rather work on things like clean energy, reducing emissions, getting off of fossil fuels even if we don't have to rather than sitting around like the farks in Pompeii saying I'm sure that smoking mountain is nothing to worry about.

Insurance policies = Solving problems that don't exist.

You, I assume pay auto insurance even though you may never get into an accident. You have solved a problem that doesn't exist yet and may never exist.

I assume you have life insurance. You have solved the problem of your funeral costs and hopefully some of the financial needs of your loved ones. That problem does not exist yet and my not exist before the end of the policy term.

I see working on getting rid of pollutants, fossil fuels etc. as a sort of planetary insurance policy. Hopefully nothing happens, but if it does we have it covered.


I'm glad to hear you are almost definitely in favor of voter ID laws. The Democrats have been yelping for years that it's solving a problem that doesn't exist.
 
2012-06-24 12:25:59 AM  

Cataholic: I'm glad to hear you are almost definitely in favor of voter ID laws. The Democrats have been yelping for years that it's solving a problem that doesn't exist.


What makes you think I'm a Democrat? I think both parties are pretty equally farked at this point, neither seems to be able to actually lead the country towards anything positive, whether it be for obstructionist tactics, stupidity, or the inability to reach a consensus within their own party. At the federal level, I see the vote of an individual as little more than a suggestion anyway. Personally I'm just a bit sick of voting for the lesser of 2 evils and watching the country slip just a little more. If it wasn't for state and local elections, I probably wouldn't vote at all.

Gyrfalcon: You're arguing with a troll who wants to wait till we're all neck deep in meltwater before acknowledging there might be something to deal with. His idea of an insurance policy is to not have one, and then hope his car gets hit by an uninsured motorist who is ALSO a criminal and will be willing to settle.


Oh I know he's right up there with General Green Text, 10 pounds of cheddar, and a few others. I only engage when I'm at work and am trying to kill some time. It's also why I refuse to get into a science "link war" with them. It takes far too much time to debunk what are essentially blogs and websites that state they're "bridging the gap between reality and official science." I'm a reasonably intelligent person, in college, and able to think for myself. I have all the confidence in the world I can look at many scientific studies and articles and understand them without some website "bridging the gap" for me. That being said, the main reason I come here is for amusement. I really thought it was amusing that a guy essentially named fark you charlie was debating the validity of climate science with a dude claiming to be the ghost of Tex Avery. Why any of us are taken seriously is beyond me. Honest to god most of the names and personalities on this site just conjure images of cartoon characters in my head. On the other hand I have you farkied as "dude I agree with alot", so you have that going for you.
 
2012-06-24 12:51:31 AM  
scratch.mit.edu

show me the car fox
 
2012-06-24 12:53:29 AM  
Oh I know he's right up there with General Green Text, 10 pounds of cheddar, and a few others. I only engage when I'm at work and am trying to kill some time. It's also why I refuse to get into a science "link war" with them. It takes far too much time to debunk what are essentially blogs and websites that state they're "bridging the gap between reality and official science." I'm a reasonably intelligent person, in college, and able to think for myself. I have all the confidence in the world I can look at many scientific studies and articles and understand them without some website "bridging the gap" for me. That being said, the main reason I come here is for amusement. I really thought it was amusing that a guy essentially named fark you charlie was debating the validity of climate science with a dude claiming to be the ghost of Tex Avery. Why any of us are taken seriously is beyond me. Honest to god most of the names and personalities on this site just conjure images of cartoon characters in my head. On the other hand I have you farkied as "dude I agree with alot", so you have that going for you.


Well, that's nice to know. :)

If you're the ghost of Tex Avery, does that mean you channel Bugs Bunny? Or are you one of Tex's more wolvish creations?
 
2012-06-24 01:04:43 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Well, that's nice to know. :)

If you're the ghost of Tex Avery, does that mean you channel Bugs Bunny? Or are you one of Tex's more wolvish creations?


Oh I'm a Daffy man through and through,(in taste and personality, my first role model) however like all young boys, I do love that Red Hot Riding Hood and Swing Shift Cinderella......

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2012-06-24 01:15:08 AM  

PacManDreaming: Fano: Cue bugsbunnysawingoffflorida.jpg

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zulius: sid2112: Fano: Cue bugsbunnysawingoffflorida.jpg

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Do it and I pull the trigger, I swearz!
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Excellent. Someone had to do it. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-06-24 01:51:46 AM  

Igor Jakovsky: Florida has been underwater before and it will be again. They have shell pits and quarries in the middle of the state that routinely yield marine fossils when dug. I live on a barrier island here and have no illusions that it will be underwater again at some point in the future.


Marine fossils are found everywhere. On mountain tops, even.

/exit, stage left.
 
2012-06-24 02:29:43 AM  
If Florida ever did sink completely beneath the waves I'd have to give up being an atheist.
 
2012-06-24 04:41:47 AM  

bingethinker: According to the "sky is falling" predictions from a few years ago, Florida should be under six feet of water by now.


There is absolutely no evidence for your statement. As a hydrogeologist who attended this conference, I do not appreciate flippant comments like this that undermine the extraordinarily complex, interdisciplinary work that thousands of scientists, engineers, municipal governments and businesses are doings to monitor, model and create response measures for such an intricate system. Climate change is a real phenomenon backed up by a diverse range of environmental indicators. One of its consequences, sea level rise, will ultimately displace millions of people in Florida and ruin billions of dollars of commercial/residential real estate, arable land and infrastructure. If we don't get our shiat together, the effects will be even worse.

Even Wells Fargo and FPL (the southern branch of NextEra Energy, one of the largest utilities in the country) participated in the conference. They are rightfully concerned about billions of dollars in long-term investments in their customers here and, ironically, are hoping to lobby the Florida Legislature to begin long-term regional planning.

I, along with thousands of other people with a lifetime of scientific investigation under their belts, have carefully considered multiple lines of indisputable evidence, to demonstrate that climate change is a completely normal phenomenon clearly documented by fossil trends and ancient traces of atmospheric conditions. The direction of climate change can be altered by the input of atmospheric gases which have thermodynamically predictable interactions with input of heat from the sun.

Please consider doing more research to develop a more informed opinion. I can provide you with tons of sources and explain some of the subtle quantitative details. This is not the type of topic that can be understood by reading one or even one hundred journal articles. This is one of the reasons why laypeople cannot grasp that scientists could agree on the fundamentals and debate the subtleties. There is an enormous, on-going investment of time needed to remain informed. Therefore, I'm not surprised that, in a society that thinks 30-second talking points are adequate to explain complex political issues, the details regarding climate change would be lost. This is really unfortunate because it is completely up to the wealthy, first-world countries as to whether the human response to climate change will be controlled or chaotic.
 
2012-06-24 09:09:05 AM  

Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.


I've been to Florida at least 10 or 12 times. Like the old saying: Nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. Between the humidity and voracious bugs in the summer and the snowbirds in the winter, and the ridiculous prices for stuff year round...

Also: Welcome_to_Fark.jpg


/the Bugs Bunny sawing off Florida always bothered me because it should have collided with Cuba.
//geography geek
 
2012-06-24 09:21:09 AM  
Except for all the studies that show sea levels have only risen by a few mm since 1950. (PDF, Pages 11-12)
 
2012-06-24 11:01:45 AM  

Gleeman: Rufus Lee King: I never did understand all the Florida hate on this site. How many of you people disparaging Florida have even been there? I'm there quite a bit, and honestly don't see what's so bad. Is it some kind of elaborate joke that I don't get? Hell, I guess.

I've been to Florida at least 10 or 12 times. Like the old saying: Nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. Between the humidity and voracious bugs in the summer and the snowbirds in the winter, and the ridiculous prices for stuff year round...

Also: Welcome_to_Fark.jpg


/the Bugs Bunny sawing off Florida always bothered me because it should have collided with Cuba.
//geography geek


how can u saw off a state?
from a geography perspective it MAKES NO SENSE
do u know how deep the core of the earth goes??
oh u. just go and play your gay games
 
2012-06-24 11:02:05 AM  

Gleeman: Except for all the studies that show sea levels have only risen by a few mm since 1950. (PDF, Pages 11-12)


First rule of research is know what the interest is in the results. A quick search on "Friends of Science", the people who this study was prepared for yeilded this;

In an August 12, 2006, article The Globe and Mail revealed that the group had received significant funding via anonymous, indirect donations from the oil industry, including a major grant from the Science Education Fund, a donor-directed, flow-through charitable fund at the Calgary Foundation. The donations were funneled through a University of Calgary trust account research set up and controlled by U of C Professor Barry Cooper.


Well color me suspicious.....
 
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