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(Archaeorama)   Scientists find 13,000 year old trinitite, the melted glass formed by nuclear blasts, all over the planet. I'm not saying it was aliens, but   (archaeorama.com) divider line 47
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2012-06-23 08:44:29 AM
"The very high temperature melt-glass appears identical to that produced in known cosmic impact events such as Meteor Crater in Arizona, and the Australasian tektite field," said Kennett.

"The melt material also matches melt-glass produced by the Trinity nuclear airburst of 1945 in Socorro, New Mexico. The extreme temperatures required are equal to those of an atomic bomb blast, high enough to make sand melt and boil," he said.


Boiling sand... I think I will pass.
 
2012-06-23 01:28:53 PM
I always said those Neanderthals didn't go down without a fight.
 
2012-06-23 01:34:40 PM
Oh great. We'll never hear the end of it from Tom Cruise.

/all hail Xenu!
 
2012-06-23 02:20:39 PM
Aw hell, subby... The world is only 6,000 years old, so that doesn't make any sense.
 
2012-06-23 03:09:46 PM
the Australasian tektite field

www.mobygames.com

It's dangerous to go alone.
 
2012-06-23 03:25:17 PM
So that's what happened to Atlantis.
 
2012-06-23 03:27:35 PM

Dr.Zom: So that's what happened to Atlantis.


It was nuked from orbit. Only way to be sure.
 
2012-06-23 03:29:21 PM
Please don't make those Ancient Aliens guys right...I get the feeling they'll let it go to their heads.
 
2012-06-23 03:51:09 PM
Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita........we know the history we just choose to ignore it.
 
2012-06-23 04:08:40 PM

Fark Me To Tears: Aw hell, subby... The world is only 6,000 years old, so that doesn't make any sense.


i224.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-23 04:17:32 PM
I saw 'Ancient Aliens' for the first time just the other day. Tsoukalos was making the argument that because you can draw a straight line through four very old viking shrines, the only possible conclusion was the vikings could fly.

Flying vikings.

I want to keep watching, but I should probably stand on principle and ignore it.
 
2012-06-23 04:19:49 PM

Zalan: "The very high temperature melt-glass appears identical to that produced in known cosmic impact events such as Meteor Crater in Arizona, and the Australasian tektite field," said Kennett.

"The melt material also matches melt-glass produced by the Trinity nuclear airburst of 1945 in Socorro, New Mexico. The extreme temperatures required are equal to those of an atomic bomb blast, high enough to make sand melt and boil," he said.

Boiling sand... I think I will pass.


I loved the end of the article: "The presence of a thick charcoal layer in the ancient village in Syria indicates a major fire associated with the melt-glass and impact spherules 12,900 years ago. Evidence suggests that the effects on that settlement and its inhabitants would have been severe,"

Ya think?
 
2012-06-23 04:38:28 PM

Action Seal: I saw 'Ancient Aliens' for the first time just the other day. Tsoukalos was making the argument that because you can draw a straight line through four very old viking shrines, the only possible conclusion was the vikings could fly.

Flying vikings.

I want to keep watching, but I should probably stand on principle and ignore it.


Blasphemer, you deny the existence of the Valkyrie!
Stone them!
 
2012-06-23 04:51:46 PM

Action Seal: I saw 'Ancient Aliens' for the first time just the other day. Tsoukalos was making the argument that because you can draw a straight line through four very old viking shrines, the only possible conclusion was the vikings could fly.

Flying vikings.

I want to keep watching, but I should probably stand on principle and ignore it.


I am a viking, and we do fly on occasion. Nothing fancy... more like random levetation.

We mostly use it as a stupid bar trick nowadays to get free drinks.

A little bit of bezerker juice, second star on the on the right, and striaght on to valhalla
 
2012-06-23 04:59:36 PM
FTA: Younger Dryas Boundary (YDB)

As opposed to the Older Wet-ass Boundary (OWB)
 
2012-06-23 05:05:07 PM
Also, its a boogy man article. Trinitite is glass like material formed from a nuclear blast, first observed after the trinity test. It's where we get the term "glass parking lot" from.
But trinitite is particular to nuclear explosions and holds residual radiation from the blast that created it

The material they are talking about here could have been created by lightning or a very, very hot fire.
And yes, an impact event. But the latent radiation from that would have a differnt profile than a nuke blast.

Straws, they are grasping at them. I hope they get their grant money.
 
2012-06-23 05:10:20 PM

Zalan: "The very high temperature melt-glass appears identical to that produced in known cosmic impact events such as Meteor Crater in Arizona, and the Australasian tektite field," said Kennett.

"The melt material also matches melt-glass produced by the Trinity nuclear airburst of 1945 in Socorro, New Mexico. The extreme temperatures required are equal to those of an atomic bomb blast, high enough to make sand melt and boil," he said.

Boiling sand... I think I will pass.


Interestingly, this is the first mention I have seen of an airburst test at Trinity in 1945. Why was this test concealed until now? What device was used? How as it fused for the drop?
 
2012-06-23 05:30:26 PM

Cerebral Knievel:

I am a viking, and we do fly on occasion. Nothing fancy...


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-06-23 05:36:17 PM

SwiftFox: Zalan: "The very high temperature melt-glass appears identical to that produced in known cosmic impact events such as Meteor Crater in Arizona, and the Australasian tektite field," said Kennett.

"The melt material also matches melt-glass produced by the Trinity nuclear airburst of 1945 in Socorro, New Mexico. The extreme temperatures required are equal to those of an atomic bomb blast, high enough to make sand melt and boil," he said.

Boiling sand... I think I will pass.

Interestingly, this is the first mention I have seen of an airburst test at Trinity in 1945. Why was this test concealed until now? What device was used? How as it fused for the drop?


The Trinity Test was the first test of a nuclear device by the Manhattan Project. The bomb was placed atop a 100-ft steel tower to simulate being dropped from an airplane. It was a plutonium-implosion type bomb.

Also, I don't think the test had ever been concealed; details of the test were released after the Hiroshima bombing.

Link
 
2012-06-23 05:44:19 PM

Action Seal: I saw 'Ancient Aliens' for the first time just the other day. Tsoukalos was making the argument that because you can draw a straight line through four very old viking shrines, the only possible conclusion was the vikings could fly.

Flying vikings.

I want to keep watching, but I should probably stand on principle and ignore it.


The first season had some interesting history and geography. I never knew about the underground cities in Turkey. I am curious as to why mankind entered a megolithic age. They usually have a good run up of evidence, then slam you with the unwarranted "aliens" conclusion.

The more recent evidence, such as nazis and aliens, the founding fathers and aliens, and suicide cults and aliens were not just ludicrous, but outright offensive at parts. As you noticed. :)
 
2012-06-23 05:50:47 PM
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

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2012-06-23 06:06:42 PM
Link seems farked.
 
2012-06-23 06:14:52 PM
The Mahabharata supposedly recounts events that took place around 11,000-12,000 B.C.
the following are some quotes from the Mahabharata

"Hurled a single projectile charged with the power of the Universe."

"An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with all its splendor."

"It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt."

"A gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas."

"The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable."

"Hair and nails fell out."

"Pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white."

"After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected."

"To escape from this fire the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment."


Admittedly the quotes above are taken from various chapters of the Mahabharata and do not appear as a single story as many web sites would have you to believe. Even so interesting visuals from 13,000 years ago.

You can read the Mahabharata online free here.
 
2012-06-23 06:22:34 PM

Willstar: Link seems farked.


Link

it's the daily fail but it doesn't seem to be farked
 
2012-06-23 06:30:35 PM

runner_one: The Mahabharata supposedly recounts events that took place around 11,000-12,000 B.C.
the following are some quotes from the Mahabharata

"Hurled a single projectile charged with the power of the Universe."

"An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with all its splendor."

"It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt."

"A gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas."

"The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable."

"Hair and nails fell out."

"Pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white."

"After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected."

"To escape from this fire the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment."


Admittedly the quotes above are taken from various chapters of the Mahabharata and do not appear as a single story as many web sites would have you to believe. Even so interesting visuals from 13,000 years ago.

You can read the Mahabharata online free here.


You are awesome.
 
2012-06-23 06:58:27 PM

born_yesterday: Please don't make those Ancient Aliens guys right...I get the feeling they'll let it go to their heads.


No, Ancient Aliens has very little to do with stuff like this. Their core thesis is that ancient peoples were stupid and must have had help from advanced being who'd mastered the technology of stacking rocks on top of each other.
 
2012-06-23 07:00:32 PM

mark_bert: FTA: Younger Dryas Boundary (YDB)

As opposed to the Older Wet-ass Boundary (OWB)


Ha, I get it! Because it contains the words "dry" and "ass," right? Ha!
 
2012-06-23 07:04:06 PM

Cerebral Knievel: Also, its a boogy man article. Trinitite is glass like material formed from a nuclear blast, first observed after the trinity test. It's where we get the term "glass parking lot" from.
But trinitite is particular to nuclear explosions and holds residual radiation from the blast that created it

The material they are talking about here could have been created by lightning or a very, very hot fire.
And yes, an impact event. But the latent radiation from that would have a differnt profile than a nuke blast.

Straws, they are grasping at them. I hope they get their grant money.


I'm confused. Did you RTFA or not? TFA doesn't suggest a nuclear origin at all. It specifically suggests one or more cosmic impacts. Unless you only skimmed it, and you think they mean that trinitite is scattered aroudn the world, which is also doesn't say. Or you're confusing TFA with subby's headline, which is a joke.
 
2012-06-23 07:07:02 PM

SwiftFox: Zalan: "The very high temperature melt-glass appears identical to that produced in known cosmic impact events such as Meteor Crater in Arizona, and the Australasian tektite field," said Kennett.

"The melt material also matches melt-glass produced by the Trinity nuclear airburst of 1945 in Socorro, New Mexico. The extreme temperatures required are equal to those of an atomic bomb blast, high enough to make sand melt and boil," he said.

Boiling sand... I think I will pass.

Interestingly, this is the first mention I have seen of an airburst test at Trinity in 1945. Why was this test concealed until now? What device was used? How as it fused for the drop?


If it's the first mention you've seen, it's because you haven't paid attention. It's been well known for decades. Here are the details, read them yourself.
 
2012-06-23 07:11:18 PM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Cerebral Knievel: Also, its a boogy man article. Trinitite is glass like material formed from a nuclear blast, first observed after the trinity test. It's where we get the term "glass parking lot" from.
But trinitite is particular to nuclear explosions and holds residual radiation from the blast that created it

The material they are talking about here could have been created by lightning or a very, very hot fire.
And yes, an impact event. But the latent radiation from that would have a differnt profile than a nuke blast.

Straws, they are grasping at them. I hope they get their grant money.

I'm confused. Did you RTFA or not? TFA doesn't suggest a nuclear origin at all. It specifically suggests one or more cosmic impacts. Unless you only skimmed it, and you think they mean that trinitite is scattered aroudn the world, which is also doesn't say. Or you're confusing TFA with subby's headline, which is a joke.


This, RTFA moran.
 
2012-06-23 07:13:11 PM
So how big of an object has to impact earth for this to be observed in places thousands of miles from eachother.....if its that young, where is the crater?
 
2012-06-23 08:08:09 PM
Meteorites, especially large ones, can imitate a nuclear blast on impact. The heat from the blast is known to cause fusion of material near the blast site, and has been found before at other sites than this one. Some impactors have been found to contain large amount of irridium, and leave radioactivity behind. This radioactivity has a completely different signature than a nuclear blast.
 
2012-06-23 08:08:12 PM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: born_yesterday: Please don't make those Ancient Aliens guys right...I get the feeling they'll let it go to their heads.

No, Ancient Aliens has very little to do with stuff like this. Their core thesis is that ancient peoples were stupid and must have had help from advanced being who'd mastered the technology of stacking rocks on top of each other.


Because you know, if you can truck across intergalatic space you need a drawing of a spider in Peru who help guide you to a landing point. It all makes perfect sense.

Think about it, if we found another civilization rock stacking and geoglyphs would be the first things we teach them....of and we'd leave all instructions in crop circles.
 
2012-06-23 08:26:22 PM

runner_one: The Mahabharata supposedly recounts events that took place around 11,000-12,000 B.C.
the following are some quotes from the Mahabharata

"Hurled a single projectile charged with the power of the Universe."

"An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with all its splendor."

"It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt."

"A gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas."

"The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable."

"Hair and nails fell out."

"Pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white."

"After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected."

"To escape from this fire the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment."


Admittedly the quotes above are taken from various chapters of the Mahabharata and do not appear as a single story as many web sites would have you to believe. Even so interesting visuals from 13,000 years ago.

You can read the Mahabharata online free here.


I rarely say TL;DR, but daaaaaaang does that need a study guide.
 
2012-06-23 09:17:09 PM

runner_one: The Mahabharata supposedly recounts events that took place around 11,000-12,000 B.C.


I belive the correct technical term for this statement is bullshiat. The Indus valley Civilization onyl dates back to 3500 BCE. The Indo-European invasions only to ~1500 BC. Hinduism in any form even remotely similar to that described in the Mahabharata is ~800 BCE. The earliest known fragments of stories in the Mahabharata are only from ~400 BCE.So unless we accept that Hinduism arose in India 8000 years before the earliest known complex culture in India, experienced and recorded certain events, then ended - taking along every single possible trace of its existence - a different civilization appeared 3500 BCE, was taken over by outside invaders, the two then synthesized and recreated a virtual identical culture to the "lost" one, and then found perfectly preserved records of the "lost" civilization, made copies, and then destroyed the records that had miraculously survived so long; unless we accept all that, the Mahabharata has jack-all to do with the article.

I'll let you in on a little secret: ancient peoples were not totally honest, perfectly accurate stenographers. They lied, they exaggerated, the discussed things in allegorical terms, and they just straight up made shiat up. Accepting anything from the archaic and/or ancient world without a Pacific-Ocean-sized grain of salt is explicitly stating you are a mental retard who regularly gets scammed by Nigerians. Without independent corroboration, you can pretty much assume any number presented by an ancient author is too big by at least one, if not more, orders of magnitude - and he's most likely still dragging the significant digits from out of his ass
 
2012-06-23 10:06:00 PM
mimg.ugo.com
 
2012-06-23 11:26:09 PM
lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-06-24 03:08:53 AM
phalamir,

Jesus, Lady Killjoy, take a pill. While you were busy with your self- righteous, rage- induced, keyboard- pounding typo- filled missive and completely missing runner_one's point ( and pretty much admitting you're a mental retard for doing so,) the rest of us figured out that post was about anachronistic literary imagery regarding this subject without suggesting it was a historically accurate text.
I'll go ahead and let you in on a little secret; modern blowhards who feel the need to respond to posts based on their own narcissistic short- sightedness may consider taking their own misguided egos with a Pacific- Ocean- sized grain of salt.
 
2012-06-24 03:16:40 AM

dryknife: "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 450x576]


My first thought on seeing this was "We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold."
 
2012-06-24 03:20:38 PM
two words: Sodom and Gomorrah.
 
2012-06-24 08:48:21 PM

theodopolis13: two words: Sodom and Gomorrah.


One word: horseshiat
 
2012-06-24 08:50:17 PM

bobchuck47: phalamir,

Jesus, Lady Killjoy, take a pill. While you were busy with your self- righteous, rage- induced, keyboard- pounding typo- filled missive and completely missing runner_one's point ( and pretty much admitting you're a mental retard for doing so,) the rest of us figured out that post was about anachronistic literary imagery regarding this subject without suggesting it was a historically accurate text.
I'll go ahead and let you in on a little secret; modern blowhards who feel the need to respond to posts based on their own narcissistic short- sightedness may consider taking their own misguided egos with a Pacific- Ocean- sized grain of salt.


So, you guys gettin' it on, then?
 
2012-06-24 10:22:52 PM
I think the Gulf of Mexico is the exit point of a bollide collision and that the Rocky Mountains, California, and the Baja Peninsula arose from the sea by the Earth's rotation against another object. That object was probably a comet. I want to get this proven, but the USGS will not survey what I found to back this theory up.
 
2012-06-25 12:28:12 AM

Dave The Slushy: dryknife: "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 450x576]

My first thought on seeing this was "We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold."


We can't stop here. This is bat country.
 
2012-06-25 04:14:20 AM
Sylvia_Bandersnatch- fingers crossed...
 
2012-06-25 08:03:11 AM

dalbuc: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: born_yesterday: Please don't make those Ancient Aliens guys right...I get the feeling they'll let it go to their heads.

No, Ancient Aliens has very little to do with stuff like this. Their core thesis is that ancient peoples were stupid and must have had help from advanced being who'd mastered the technology of stacking rocks on top of each other.

Because you know, if you can truck across intergalatic space you need a drawing of a spider in Peru who help guide you to a landing point. It all makes perfect sense.

Think about it, if we found another civilization rock stacking and geoglyphs would be the first things we teach them....of and we'd leave all instructions in crop circles.


Humans are dumb.
toulousestreet.files.wordpress.com

Cargo cults FTW!
 
2012-06-25 08:05:28 AM
theagileadvisors.com
 
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