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2012-06-22 11:49:10 PM  

R.A.Danny: TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

There are a number of powerful people, who, had they done the right thing, could have stopped this. They didn't.


They should be held complicit, and be put in the cell next to him so that they can continue to keep his secrets.
 
2012-06-22 11:49:14 PM  

One Bad Apple: MrHappyRotter: Hey Fark. Let's do the Internet a favor and forget about the whole overplayed RIP meme?

Rest in peace ripped mime


Hahahahaha

Woke up the wife by laughing at this thread. Got some 'splaining to do
 
2012-06-22 11:49:25 PM  

HardRocker488: Here's hoping they don't isolate him from the general population.


Sorry, but they will. Less because of the rape thingy than because he's just too high-profile to place in GP. Also because of his age. He's not going to any kind of supermax PMITA prison. He'll be going someplace for geriatric prisoners.
 
2012-06-22 11:50:00 PM  
rufus-t-firefly LMark: He had an urge that is incompatible with civilized society, and sadly he was not able to suppress it.

Whoa. Really? It was just "incompatible with civilized society?" So, if he did it somewhere in the Amazon, it would be fine? I know that's not what you're intending, but you did say it in a really farked up way.



The folks in the Amazon have a civilization. The social mores may be different than ours, but they exist. And I suspect that the rape of children is no-no there, as well.
 
2012-06-22 11:50:25 PM  

Drummer: Just to get us guys back to normal, here's a pic for us...


Approve
 
2012-06-22 11:50:32 PM  

One Bad Apple: Rest in peace ripped mime


laf... I'll give it to you. That was pretty damn funny, and I hate the RIP meme.
 
2012-06-22 11:50:42 PM  

Drummer: Just to get us guys back to normal, here's a pic for us...

[www.wheninromebro.com image 500x386]


Ok, now I picture her dropping the soap.
 
2012-06-22 11:50:55 PM  
Now that we've put the monster away and condemned Paterno, let's just look the other way regarding the TSA

www.reteaparty.com
 
2012-06-22 11:50:59 PM  

Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: I don't think he's been sentenced yet. I hear 90 days, and yeah, you're right, there is no bail in most places after you've been convicted of a "capital crime", but he wasn't convicted of a "capital crime".

Yes, he's facing life (400 something years actually), but what he actually gets, we won't know, for about 90 days.

Don't get me wrong I'm not cheering the guy on (unless he's setting himself on fire) I'm just saying that the justice system is drastically different for certain (rich, connected, or famous) people, than it is for you and me.

No, I didn't think you were cheering the guy on. I think you are being a bit cynical, though. I don't see any way that he sees one more day of freedom.

============

I sincerely, with all my heart, hope you are correct.
 
2012-06-22 11:51:28 PM  
There's an old Jewish blessing "May you live to 120!"
I hope Sandusky does and spends every single one of those years rotting behind bars.
 
2012-06-22 11:51:54 PM  
Jerry Sandusky had an outstanding coaching career and played a central role in two championship winning teams.

You really do have to remain objective and weigh the good with the bad.
 
2012-06-22 11:52:05 PM  

velvet_fog: farkingismybusiness: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]
HIs showers will be more frightening than this one.

/good

Nightmare fuel.


What. The fark.
 
2012-06-22 11:52:07 PM  
I hope they pass him around in prison like a joint at a Pink Floyd concert.
 
2012-06-22 11:52:18 PM  
Cinemax, Supermax, what's the difference really
 
2012-06-22 11:52:29 PM  

Aar1012: Sabyen91: Biness: Aar1012: TheManofPA: I hate listening to Madden, but he has been on a roll with this thing.

I'm just hearing John Madden in my head because of this line.

'Now you see, what the prosecution needs to do here is present the story from several of the victims plus from the witnesses. The way to win a conviction is with a guilty verdict....and 'BOOM' there it is!'

/Know you said Mark Madden

Top it off with a bloomin' onion! BOOM!

Pfft, if it isn't Terducken it isn't Madden.

There is a prison rape joke in there somewhere


BOOM tough actin tinactin.
 
2012-06-22 11:52:42 PM  

9beers: malaktaus: You didn't hear? One of his adopted kids did come forward with a claim of abuse.

Sure they did, after they realized there was money to be had.


So...you couldn't resist trolling?
 
2012-06-22 11:53:21 PM  
All the Penn State fans who demonized the kid who reported him should be joining him.
 
2012-06-22 11:53:26 PM  

TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Taken ill, and out on bail for the next few years during the appeals process in 5....4...3...2....

Hell, he'll be out by Monday.
Mark my words.

You don't get bail for appeals.
============

Yeah you do. I've heard of it many many times.
Even after repeat conviction, some people are allowed time to turn themselves in after they've been given time to get their affairs in order.

He wasn't convicted for misdemeanors.
==========

Neither were alot of other people. The guys from Enron requested it, I think some were granted it, and some weren't.
Rob Blagoyavitch (or whatever his name is) requested it as well, he didn't get it though.
But requesting bail during the appeal process is not uncommon, and isn't always denied.

Pennsylvania does not allow bail for someone who is getting life in prison. If they are getting more than 3 years it looks like it isn't allowed. Link (PDF warning)

I don't think he's been sentenced yet. I hear 90 days, and yeah, you're right, there is no bail in most places after you've been convicted of a "capital crime", but he wasn't convicted of a "capital crime".

Yes, he's facing life (400 something years actually), but what he actually gets, we won't know, for about 90 days.

Don't get me wrong I'm not cheering the guy on (unless he's setting himself on fire) I'm just saying that the justice system is drastically different for certain (rich, connected, or famous) people, than it is for you and me.


The man is a sociopath and is just waiting for this to blow over or for some of his Penn State buddies to cover for him and bail him out.

geom_00: TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

Thank you.

Gary Schultz WAS the CHIEF of PSU Police...which is NOT a rent a cop university police force.

doglover: I wouldn't mind beating him with a one of those poster tubes...

Thank you. I needed that laugh.


The civil suits are just lining up. There are so many guilty parties here.
 
2012-06-22 11:53:31 PM  
What's the bet on him finding a way to off himself the first chance he gets? They can't watch him all the time.
 
2012-06-22 11:53:42 PM  

TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: I don't think he's been sentenced yet. I hear 90 days, and yeah, you're right, there is no bail in most places after you've been convicted of a "capital crime", but he wasn't convicted of a "capital crime".

Yes, he's facing life (400 something years actually), but what he actually gets, we won't know, for about 90 days.

Don't get me wrong I'm not cheering the guy on (unless he's setting himself on fire) I'm just saying that the justice system is drastically different for certain (rich, connected, or famous) people, than it is for you and me.

No, I didn't think you were cheering the guy on. I think you are being a bit cynical, though. I don't see any way that he sees one more day of freedom.
============

I sincerely, with all my heart, hope you are correct.


From the PA law it looks like he is done.
 
2012-06-22 11:53:59 PM  

AeAe: TuteTibiImperes: Owangotang: geom_00: Owangotang: Even a panel that included nine jurors with direct ties to Penn State University was able to see the monster among them and send him away, understanding the local and regional shame of the truth - that a community too reverent of football enabled, abetted and facilitated the serial rape of children.

This Penn Stater has been saying that Jerry should have been guilty since DAY ONE.

Congrats, you are just like the rest of us. The problem is not that Penn Staters think Sandusky is guilty, it is that many I've seen put it all on him. Their focus is solely on Sandusky, overlooking Spanier, Schultz, Thomas Harmon, and of course Joe Paterno.

Just wait until the stadium is named for Paterno.

Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

Oh, well, in that case that makes his inaction after that ok then.


Paterno wasn't in a law enforcement role, and he wasn't the president of the school or even in charge of the athletics department. Anything he did after reporting what he was told would have been either vigilante justice or beyond his role and responsibilities which could have endangered his position or opened up the university to civil action from Sandusky.

There are plenty of people who could have taken action that would have ended this earlier - the victims by going to the police earlier, the police by taking the accusations of the victims who did go forward seriously, and even the university administrators who likely heard enough reports to at least revoke Sandusky's privileges to use university grounds - but Paterno did what was withing his power, he heard a report second hand, and passed the information along. No one should be asked to throw their career away based on uncorroborated accusations.
 
2012-06-22 11:53:59 PM  

R.A.Danny: TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

There are a number of powerful people, who, had they done the right thing, could have stopped this. They didn't.



Not to mention in such a small town, JoPa was the police, the mayor, the fire chief - hell was Jesus Christ in State College. So much power, yet did very little.
 
2012-06-22 11:54:14 PM  

mc_madness: Jerry Sandusky had an outstanding coaching career and played a central role in two championship winning teams.

You really do have to remain objective and weigh the good with the bad.


And Hitler helped rebuild the German economy during the first few years in power.
 
2012-06-22 11:54:14 PM  

mc_madness: Jerry Sandusky had an outstanding coaching career and played a central role in two championship winning teams.

You really do have to remain objective and weigh the good with the bad.


Obvious troll is obvious
 
2012-06-22 11:54:45 PM  

Chunky Pumpkinhead: Now that we've put the monster away and condemned Paterno, let's just look the other way regarding the TSA

[www.reteaparty.com image 640x425]


How do you think they treat you if you wear one of those "END THE TSA" t-shirts to the airport?
 
2012-06-22 11:54:59 PM  
On a positive note, the prison football team defense just got a little better. Assuming they listen to him and just don't shank him....

Seriously though, there is a chance of ineffective assistance of counsel claim which just might reset the process. The TV interview before the trial, the lawyer comments during the trial, the promising he would testify then not doing so (rightfully so, but never promise what you can't deliver) all look incredibly suspect and could have potentially affected the outcome. If the judge leaned on him not to testify (certainly it was in his best interest and it is highly likely he took the steps to make sure Sandusky knew in exact details what would happen) that could be grounds. Of course he was still guilty as hell without all this, but if he makes the motion, he just might get a new trial where he would promptly be found guilty again. It could still prolong the process and give him a chance to die outside the prison so he might take it.
 
2012-06-22 11:55:29 PM  

mc_madness: Jerry Sandusky had an outstanding coaching career and played a central role in two championship winning teams.

You really do have to remain objective and weigh the good with the bad.


2.bp.blogspot.com

Approves.
 
2012-06-22 11:56:08 PM  

Rann Xerox: flamingboar: HLN is all over this story like flies on poop. I thought Nancy Grace's head was going to explode.

Stories like this make Nancy Grace's vagina nice and wet:


Win.
 
2012-06-22 11:56:23 PM  
Cribbed a Notorious B.I.G. rap lyric? Good jerb subby.
 
2012-06-22 11:56:29 PM  

Biness: WTFDYW: Biness: WTFDYW: I hope that it doesn't come out that the jury heard about Matt Sanduskys readiness to testify that he had been molested also. We'll have a re-do if they did hear about it and said that it had an effect on their decision. You can bet your ass that the defense lawyers will be bugging the hell out of them for this tid bit. All it will take is for one juror to say that he/she heard about it.

It would still have to make a material difference, and that seems unlikely, on the whole

wouldn't it be a contaminated jury if they learned of this? they are talking about this on the radio now. A REAL lawyer is talking about the very thing i just posted.

Yea, I'm an attorney and I've appealed many cases. It has to make a material difference. If he would have been convicted anyway, doesn't matter.

Now ineffective counsel...that might work here.


Didn't his own lawyer come out and say he'd keel over from a heart attack if Sandusky was acquitted on all 48 counts? You know you're boned when even your lawyer is throwing in the towel.
 
2012-06-22 11:57:31 PM  

Drummer: Just to get us guys back to normal, here's a pic for us...

[www.wheninromebro.com image 500x386]


motherofgod.jpg

/fap
 
2012-06-22 11:58:16 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Iowan73: Those of you who still have your heads up Paterno's ass, understand this. Regardless of whether you think he should have gone to the police with the information McQuery gave him, it is undeniable that he allowed Sandusky to continue to use his access to the Penn State football program to groom boys so he could molest them. Sandusky still had the run of the facility up until he was arrested.

No, he didn't. He was told that Sandusky's keys were taken from him. There isn't any evidence that Joe knew that Sandusky was still using the showers.

Part of the reason why I'm giving Joe a break was because he was 114 years old. I find it very easy to believe that he didn't know what was going on those last few years.


He still had an office there! You telling me Paterno didn't know that? It's not about the showers. He used his status as an insider with the Penn State football team to get close to those boys.
 
2012-06-22 11:58:35 PM  
Well good, dude will never see freedom again.

/surprise buttsecks?
 
2012-06-22 11:58:35 PM  
So, with the claims of how bad his lawyer acted, was Sandusky's lawyer the Giant Hyper-Chicken from Futurama?
 
2012-06-22 11:58:52 PM  
So, who will his new husband?
 
2012-06-22 11:58:58 PM  
This thread is turning out so very differently than I expected, I guess that is my fault for spending so much time in the Sports tab. Here's to not making that mistake again!
 
2012-06-22 11:59:25 PM  

Urinal Cake Mix: Biness: WTFDYW: Biness: WTFDYW: I hope that it doesn't come out that the jury heard about Matt Sanduskys readiness to testify that he had been molested also. We'll have a re-do if they did hear about it and said that it had an effect on their decision. You can bet your ass that the defense lawyers will be bugging the hell out of them for this tid bit. All it will take is for one juror to say that he/she heard about it.

It would still have to make a material difference, and that seems unlikely, on the whole

wouldn't it be a contaminated jury if they learned of this? they are talking about this on the radio now. A REAL lawyer is talking about the very thing i just posted.

Yea, I'm an attorney and I've appealed many cases. It has to make a material difference. If he would have been convicted anyway, doesn't matter.

Now ineffective counsel...that might work here.

Didn't his own lawyer come out and say he'd keel over from a heart attack if Sandusky was acquitted on all 48 counts? You know you're boned when even your lawyer is throwing in the towel.


It's actually illegal for your attorney to throw in the towel. You might be farked, but he can't say it
 
2012-06-22 11:59:41 PM  

alwaysjaded: R.A.Danny: TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

There are a number of powerful people, who, had they done the right thing, could have stopped this. They didn't.

Yep. I remember reading somewhere that Sandusky was just the tip of the iceberg and was part of a group that was networking kids to all sorts of people. Wish I had saved that article.


He had ties to many corrupt people. Let's not forget the Kids for cash scandal and the judges that went down for that. They knew him.
 
2012-06-23 12:00:38 AM  
col.stb01.s-msn.com

Was that wrong? Should I not have done them?
 
2012-06-23 12:00:39 AM  

spanarkelspinner: R.A.Danny: TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

There are a number of powerful people, who, had they done the right thing, could have stopped this. They didn't.


Not to mention in such a small town, JoPa was the police, the mayor, the fire chief - hell was Jesus Christ in State College. So much power, yet did very little.


I think you are overestimating his influence. Penn State has close to 50,000 students on the main campus, and the State College metro area has a population of over 150,000, it isn't a small town.
 
2012-06-23 12:03:01 AM  

mc_madness: Jerry Sandusky had an outstanding coaching career and played a central role in two championship winning teams.

You really do have to remain objective and weigh the good with the bad.


Yes, because being good at teaching people how to throw or run with a ball totally outweighs ruining the lives of young boys who were already at risk.
 
2012-06-23 12:03:11 AM  
Co-counsel is happy that his cross-examination of McQueary led to acquittal on the sodomy charge, "the one that got Joe Paterno fired".

Yes asshole, you have just righted that terrible wrong. I hope a Tickle Monster gets you in hell.
 
2012-06-23 12:03:16 AM  
I just think between this...the Catholic church...and the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo...I'm beginning to think it's not all that weird that some men have figured out how to molest young boys for money.

People are stupid. And those of us that realize that live miserable lives.
 
2012-06-23 12:03:30 AM  
Headline's not the funniest. But it's perfect. Props subster.
 
2012-06-23 12:04:34 AM  
Rape isn't the answer to rape.
 
2012-06-23 12:04:55 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: spanarkelspinner: R.A.Danny: TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

There are a number of powerful people, who, had they done the right thing, could have stopped this. They didn't.


Not to mention in such a small town, JoPa was the police, the mayor, the fire chief - hell was Jesus Christ in State College. So much power, yet did very little.

I think you are overestimating his influence. Penn State has close to 50,000 students on the main campus, and the State College metro area has a population of over 150,000, it isn't a small town.


Hopefully, JoePa is in hell right now getting raped by Satan for the little he did after learning about that serial child rapist
 
2012-06-23 12:05:06 AM  

2wolves: Rape isn't the answer to rape.


daris darrison
 
2012-06-23 12:05:06 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: AeAe: TuteTibiImperes: Owangotang: geom_00: Owangotang: Even a panel that included nine jurors with direct ties to Penn State University was able to see the monster among them and send him away, understanding the local and regional shame of the truth - that a community too reverent of football enabled, abetted and facilitated the serial rape of children.

This Penn Stater has been saying that Jerry should have been guilty since DAY ONE.

Congrats, you are just like the rest of us. The problem is not that Penn Staters think Sandusky is guilty, it is that many I've seen put it all on him. Their focus is solely on Sandusky, overlooking Spanier, Schultz, Thomas Harmon, and of course Joe Paterno.

Just wait until the stadium is named for Paterno.

Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

Oh, well, in that case that makes his inaction after that ok then.

Paterno wasn't in a law enforcement role, and he wasn't the president of the school or even in charge of the athletics department. Anything he did after reporting what he was told would have been either vigilante justice or beyond his role and responsibilities which could have endangered his position or opened up the university to civil action from Sandusky.

There are plenty of people who could have taken action that would have ended this earlier - the victims by going to the police earlier, the police by taking the accusations of the victims who did go forward seriously, and even the university administrators who likely heard enough reports to at least revoke Sandusky's privileges to use university grounds - but Paterno did what was withing his power, he heard a report second hand, and passed the information along. No one should be asked to throw their career away based on uncorroborated accusations.


HE.

WAS.

RAPING.

CHILDREN.

Or is his career as a professional jock-sniffer that much more important than doing the right thing?
 
2012-06-23 12:05:29 AM  

2wolves: Rape isn't the answer to rape.


But it IS a hilarious side-effect.
 
2012-06-23 12:05:41 AM  

2wolves: Rape isn't the answer to rape.


Why not?
 
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