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2012-06-22 11:36:23 PM  

I sound fat: R.A.Danny: TsukasaK: //you people calling for him to be raped etc are terrible

You people trying to defend him like he's a human worthy of mercy are terrible.

Normally, I will say that prison rape should NEVER be part of a punishment, but...

No, I cant do it. Prison rape should never be part of a punishment. Because if the state knows it happens and still doesn't do EVERYTHING to prevent it, while at the same time keeping people from leaving the situation. That means the STATE is complaisant, and since you and I are part of the state..... Regardless of the facts of any prisoner's situation, every time this happens, we are all guilty of the assault to some degree.

Seriously, civilized human beings don't sink to the level of this trash and hope that he gets old testament justice.

/start prosecuting those in charge of the prison for it, it will stop. it CAN and should be prevented.


The only way it would be completely stopped is if everyone stayed locked down for 24 hours a day. And no trustees either. Plus, a LOT of rapes occur cause the victem comes in thinking he's a badass and doesn't show his elders respect. And some is just good ol' fashion man love and one claims he was raped later cause he doesn't want his family to know he was prison gay.

/ former inmate
 
2012-06-22 11:36:32 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: No one has "called for" it - they're just stating that it will happen.


With great glee and joy.

Same thing.
 
2012-06-22 11:37:04 PM  

Bull Schmitt: Stopped for sliders in his last moments of 'freedom'.


The show was kinda okay, but that was his last request before jail? I would have gone for Doctor Who or something
 
2012-06-22 11:37:25 PM  
Even though he is guilty, I wish they would go back and talk to that wife of his. Or maybe one of his "adopted" kids will come forward with details about what it was like in the Sandusky household. I know Jerry is a guilty perv, but I have questions.
How can a husband ( a raging pedophile) get away with this behaviour at home and his wife not know???????
 
2012-06-22 11:37:46 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]
HIs showers will be more frightening than this one.

/good


Nightmare fuel.
 
2012-06-22 11:38:24 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: flamingboar: . I thought Nancy Grace's head was going to explode.

the world is not so lucky


We are cursed with seeing her nipple :(
 
2012-06-22 11:38:41 PM  

geom_00: Owangotang: Even a panel that included nine jurors with direct ties to Penn State University was able to see the monster among them and send him away, understanding the local and regional shame of the truth - that a community too reverent of football enabled, abetted and facilitated the serial rape of children.

This Penn Stater has been saying that Jerry should have been guilty since DAY ONE.


Congrats, you are just like the rest of us. The problem is not that Penn Staters think Sandusky is guilty, it is that many I've seen put it all on him. Their focus is solely on Sandusky, overlooking Spanier, Schultz, Thomas Harmon, and of course Joe Paterno.

Just wait until the stadium is named for Paterno.
 
2012-06-22 11:38:42 PM  

Biness: desertgeek: On Sandusky's moran of a lawyer, Scott Van Pelt nails my thoughts:

"It seems all the systemic failures involving Sandusky included his defense attorney who appears to have escaped from an awful sit-com"

What a farking idiot that guy is.

Joe Amendola: the worst attorney in America.


I thought the lawyer for FunnyJunk had that title all wrapped up this year, but a challenger appears.
 
2012-06-22 11:39:11 PM  

ComicBookGuy: MrHappyRotter: No matter what I say, I'm.....


I'm not over you.

*clap...clap...clap...*

Sort of like trying to play leapfrog and failing, eh?

Yellow diamonds in the night. Now we're standing side by side. As your shadow crosses mine. What it takes to come alive. It's the way you're feelin' I just can't deny, but I gotta let it go.

We fell in love in a hopeless place. We fell in love in a hopeless place. We fell in love in a hopeless place. We fell in love in a hopeless place.
 
2012-06-22 11:39:29 PM  

TheManofPA: I hate listening to Madden, but he has been on a roll with this thing.


I'm just hearing John Madden in my head because of this line.

'Now you see, what the prosecution needs to do here is present the story from several of the victims plus from the witnesses. The way to win a conviction is with a guilty verdict....and 'BOOM' there it is!'

/Know you said Mark Madden
 
2012-06-22 11:40:18 PM  

geom_00: Owangotang: Even a panel that included nine jurors with direct ties to Penn State University was able to see the monster among them and send him away, understanding the local and regional shame of the truth - that a community too reverent of football enabled, abetted and facilitated the serial rape of children.

This Penn Stater has been saying that Jerry should have been guilty since DAY ONE.



I wouldn't mind beating him with a one of those poster tubes...
 
2012-06-22 11:40:27 PM  

flamingboar: HLN is all over this story like flies on poop. I thought Nancy Grace's head was going to explode.


Stories like this make Nancy Grace's vagina nice and wet:

i78.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-22 11:40:27 PM  

Bull Schmitt: TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Taken ill, and out on bail for the next few years during the appeals process in 5....4...3...2....

Hell, he'll be out by Monday.
Mark my words.

You don't get bail for appeals.
============

Yeah you do. I've heard of it many many times.
Even after repeat conviction, some people are allowed time to turn themselves in after they've been given time to get their affairs in order.

He wasn't convicted for misdemeanors.
==========

Neither were alot of other people. The guys from Enron requested it, I think some were granted it, and some weren't.
Rob Blagoyavitch (or whatever his name is) requested it as well, he didn't get it though.
But requesting bail during the appeal process is not uncommon, and isn't always denied.

Blago was allowed to put his affairs in order and turn himself in to Federal Prison. Stopped for sliders in his last moments of 'freedom'.

/24-7 Eyewitness coverage, they even had reporters on the plane with him that day.


That's true, but it's also true that Blago wasn't found guilty of 45 counts of child sexual abuse either.
 
2012-06-22 11:40:45 PM  

Biness: TommyymmoT: 9beers: Why do the victims have attorneys?

Massive pending civil suits I would guess. I hope Penn State has their insurance paid up.

Liability insurance likely doesn't cover this


A little thing known as Employment Practices Liability for acts committed when he was employed there. For the stuff like McQueary saw, might get murkier since he was no longer employed by the school (maybe no difference since he was a professor emeritus). But the thing here is that schools on this level have deductibles high enough to give you palpitations. Whatever is in the alumni donations to the football program is about to be flushed out the door.
 
2012-06-22 11:41:05 PM  

girlygirlmpls: Even though he is guilty, I wish they would go back and talk to that wife of his. Or maybe one of his "adopted" kids will come forward with details about what it was like in the Sandusky household. I know Jerry is a guilty perv, but I have questions.
How can a husband ( a raging pedophile) get away with this behaviour at home and his wife not know???????


She chose to ignore it. She is guilty as well.
 
2012-06-22 11:41:14 PM  

Rann Xerox: flamingboar: HLN is all over this story like flies on poop. I thought Nancy Grace's head was going to explode.

Stories like this make Nancy Grace's vagina nice and wet:

[i78.photobucket.com image 640x956]


YOUNASTY
 
2012-06-22 11:41:36 PM  

Aar1012: TheManofPA: I hate listening to Madden, but he has been on a roll with this thing.

I'm just hearing John Madden in my head because of this line.

'Now you see, what the prosecution needs to do here is present the story from several of the victims plus from the witnesses. The way to win a conviction is with a guilty verdict....and 'BOOM' there it is!'

/Know you said Mark Madden


Top it off with a bloomin' onion! BOOM!
 
2012-06-22 11:42:27 PM  

Rann Xerox: flamingboar: HLN is all over this story like flies on poop. I thought Nancy Grace's head was going to explode.

Stories like this make Nancy Grace's vagina nice and wet:


I was trying to eat a sandwhich...I think I will try again after some eye bleach.
 
2012-06-22 11:42:27 PM  

MrHappyRotter: the lord god: MrHappyRotter:


Same to you. Yeah it is me.
 
2012-06-22 11:42:28 PM  

Owangotang: geom_00: Owangotang: Even a panel that included nine jurors with direct ties to Penn State University was able to see the monster among them and send him away, understanding the local and regional shame of the truth - that a community too reverent of football enabled, abetted and facilitated the serial rape of children.

This Penn Stater has been saying that Jerry should have been guilty since DAY ONE.

Congrats, you are just like the rest of us. The problem is not that Penn Staters think Sandusky is guilty, it is that many I've seen put it all on him. Their focus is solely on Sandusky, overlooking Spanier, Schultz, Thomas Harmon, and of course Joe Paterno.

Just wait until the stadium is named for Paterno.


Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.
 
2012-06-22 11:42:54 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Sports coach or Catholic priest? It's getting harder to tell the difference anymore these days.


Boy Scout troops leaders, too. Don't forget about them.
 
2012-06-22 11:42:55 PM  

Biness: Aar1012: TheManofPA: I hate listening to Madden, but he has been on a roll with this thing.

I'm just hearing John Madden in my head because of this line.

'Now you see, what the prosecution needs to do here is present the story from several of the victims plus from the witnesses. The way to win a conviction is with a guilty verdict....and 'BOOM' there it is!'

/Know you said Mark Madden

Top it off with a bloomin' onion! BOOM!


Pfft, if it isn't Terducken it isn't Madden.
 
2012-06-22 11:43:01 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Biness: desertgeek: On Sandusky's moran of a lawyer, Scott Van Pelt nails my thoughts:

"It seems all the systemic failures involving Sandusky included his defense attorney who appears to have escaped from an awful sit-com"

What a farking idiot that guy is.

Joe Amendola: the worst attorney in America.

I thought the lawyer for FunnyJunk had that title all wrapped up this year, but a challenger appears.


I thought the same thing, but seeing how Amendola had been on this case for a few months and farked up a lot (starting with letting Sandusky do that NBC interview); I give the title to him.

/but it's damn close
 
2012-06-22 11:43:55 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Bull Schmitt: TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Taken ill, and out on bail for the next few years during the appeals process in 5....4...3...2....

Hell, he'll be out by Monday.
Mark my words.

You don't get bail for appeals.
============

Yeah you do. I've heard of it many many times.
Even after repeat conviction, some people are allowed time to turn themselves in after they've been given time to get their affairs in order.

He wasn't convicted for misdemeanors.
==========

Neither were alot of other people. The guys from Enron requested it, I think some were granted it, and some weren't.
Rob Blagoyavitch (or whatever his name is) requested it as well, he didn't get it though.
But requesting bail during the appeal process is not uncommon, and isn't always denied.

Blago was allowed to put his affairs in order and turn himself in to Federal Prison. Stopped for sliders in his last moments of 'freedom'.

/24-7 Eyewitness coverage, they even had reporters on the plane with him that day.

That's true, but it's also true that Blago wasn't found guilty of 45 counts of child sexual abuse either.


OTOH, he did try to rape the hell out of a Senate seat. And it was farkin' golden.
 
2012-06-22 11:43:59 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.


There are a number of powerful people, who, had they done the right thing, could have stopped this. They didn't.
 
2012-06-22 11:44:31 PM  

Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Sabyen91: TommyymmoT: Taken ill, and out on bail for the next few years during the appeals process in 5....4...3...2....

Hell, he'll be out by Monday.
Mark my words.

You don't get bail for appeals.
============

Yeah you do. I've heard of it many many times.
Even after repeat conviction, some people are allowed time to turn themselves in after they've been given time to get their affairs in order.

He wasn't convicted for misdemeanors.
==========

Neither were alot of other people. The guys from Enron requested it, I think some were granted it, and some weren't.
Rob Blagoyavitch (or whatever his name is) requested it as well, he didn't get it though.
But requesting bail during the appeal process is not uncommon, and isn't always denied.

Pennsylvania does not allow bail for someone who is getting life in prison. If they are getting more than 3 years it looks like it isn't allowed. Link (PDF warning)


I don't think he's been sentenced yet. I hear 90 days, and yeah, you're right, there is no bail in most places after you've been convicted of a "capital crime", but he wasn't convicted of a "capital crime".

Yes, he's facing life (400 something years actually), but what he actually gets, we won't know, for about 90 days.

Don't get me wrong I'm not cheering the guy on (unless he's setting himself on fire) I'm just saying that the justice system is drastically different for certain (rich, connected, or famous) people, than it is for you and me.
 
2012-06-22 11:44:32 PM  

Sabyen91: Biness: Aar1012: TheManofPA: I hate listening to Madden, but he has been on a roll with this thing.

I'm just hearing John Madden in my head because of this line.

'Now you see, what the prosecution needs to do here is present the story from several of the victims plus from the witnesses. The way to win a conviction is with a guilty verdict....and 'BOOM' there it is!'

/Know you said Mark Madden

Top it off with a bloomin' onion! BOOM!

Pfft, if it isn't Terducken it isn't Madden.


Yea, but John Madden was the spokesman for outback.

C'mon, don't Amendola this
 
2012-06-22 11:44:40 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Triumph: Jake Havechek: Have fun with this Public Relations nightmare Penn State!

Forget the public relations nightmare - have fun with the civil lawsuits. Jerry Sandusky isn't the deep pockets here, Penn State is.

At the end of the day I really don't think the university should be held liable for anything. Sandusky, of course, the AD and any administrators who knew and covered it up, sure, but suing the school does nothing but reduce resources available to tens of thousands of students who had nothing to do with this and who are just trying to educate themselves for a better future.


You may not think that they should be held liable, but they will be for many millions. It's gonna get very punitive. They let this guy use their university as his own personal hunting grounds.
 
2012-06-22 11:44:41 PM  

Bull Schmitt: OTOH, he did try to rape the hell out of a Senate seat. And it was farkin' golden.


Yeah, but the Senate seat was asking for it.
 
2012-06-22 11:44:44 PM  
may he rot in jail for the rest of his days. the death penalty's too good for him.
 
2012-06-22 11:45:05 PM  

Bull Schmitt: Blago was allowed to put his affairs in order and turn himself in to Federal Prison. Stopped for sliders in his last moments of 'freedom'.


He was a garden variety asshole, not a kid raper.
 
2012-06-22 11:45:08 PM  
Jeffrey Toobin - "The Catholic church and Penn State University have a lot to answer for".

Please please please let these voices of reason stem the tide of creepy college football devotees who want this to all just go away.
 
2012-06-22 11:45:11 PM  

AbbeySomeone: girlygirlmpls: Even though he is guilty, I wish they would go back and talk to that wife of his. Or maybe one of his "adopted" kids will come forward with details about what it was like in the Sandusky household. I know Jerry is a guilty perv, but I have questions.
How can a husband ( a raging pedophile) get away with this behaviour at home and his wife not know???????

She chose to ignore it. She is guilty as well.


She should be jailed as an accessory if it can be proven. It's a shame that it can't. A real big shame.
 
2012-06-22 11:45:11 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Owangotang: geom_00: Owangotang: Even a panel that included nine jurors with direct ties to Penn State University was able to see the monster among them and send him away, understanding the local and regional shame of the truth - that a community too reverent of football enabled, abetted and facilitated the serial rape of children.

This Penn Stater has been saying that Jerry should have been guilty since DAY ONE.

Congrats, you are just like the rest of us. The problem is not that Penn Staters think Sandusky is guilty, it is that many I've seen put it all on him. Their focus is solely on Sandusky, overlooking Spanier, Schultz, Thomas Harmon, and of course Joe Paterno.

Just wait until the stadium is named for Paterno.

Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.


Oh, well, in that case that makes his inaction after that ok then.
 
2012-06-22 11:45:44 PM  

Biness: C'mon, don't Amendola this


If I were a lawyer I would slap you with my glove.
 
2012-06-22 11:45:56 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.


Thank you.

Gary Schultz WAS the CHIEF of PSU Police...which is NOT a rent a cop university police force.

doglover: I wouldn't mind beating him with a one of those poster tubes...


Thank you. I needed that laugh.
 
2012-06-22 11:46:03 PM  

girlygirlmpls: Even though he is guilty, I wish they would go back and talk to that wife of his. Or maybe one of his "adopted" kids will come forward with details about what it was like in the Sandusky household. I know Jerry is a guilty perv, but I have questions.
How can a husband ( a raging pedophile) get away with this behaviour at home and his wife not know???????


That would make an interesting interview. What was the atmosphere like AFTER the conviction? How did Sandusky spend his last moments of freedom? Did he savor it or believe he would be innocent?
 
2012-06-22 11:46:22 PM  
I ignored your mom. I am guilty of her sins, too.
 
2012-06-22 11:46:42 PM  

TommyymmoT: I don't think he's been sentenced yet. I hear 90 days, and yeah, you're right, there is no bail in most places after you've been convicted of a "capital crime", but he wasn't convicted of a "capital crime".

Yes, he's facing life (400 something years actually), but what he actually gets, we won't know, for about 90 days.

Don't get me wrong I'm not cheering the guy on (unless he's setting himself on fire) I'm just saying that the justice system is drastically different for certain (rich, connected, or famous) people, than it is for you and me.


No, I didn't think you were cheering the guy on. I think you are being a bit cynical, though. I don't see any way that he sees one more day of freedom.
 
2012-06-22 11:47:18 PM  

9beers: jaylectricity: Why does anybody have attorneys?

They've been accused of a crime or they want to sue somebody for damages. So tell me, which one applies here?


I want you to stop saying retarded things. Or...maybe you're brilliant. Victims need attorneys now. Otherwise they won't know how to work the system.
 
2012-06-22 11:47:18 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Hey Fark. Let's do the Internet a favor and forget about the whole overplayed RIP meme?


hellosundaymorning.com.au

Rest in peace ripped mime
 
2012-06-22 11:47:24 PM  

desertgeek: Mad_Radhu: Biness: desertgeek: On Sandusky's moran of a lawyer, Scott Van Pelt nails my thoughts:

"It seems all the systemic failures involving Sandusky included his defense attorney who appears to have escaped from an awful sit-com"

What a farking idiot that guy is.

Joe Amendola: the worst attorney in America.

I thought the lawyer for FunnyJunk had that title all wrapped up this year, but a challenger appears.

I thought the same thing, but seeing how Amendola had been on this case for a few months and farked up a lot (starting with letting Sandusky do that NBC interview); I give the title to him.

/but it's damn close


Look what he was working with. He knew he was f*cked no matter what. I'm sure, he was paid well.
 
2012-06-22 11:47:31 PM  

Iowan73: Those of you who still have your heads up Paterno's ass, understand this. Regardless of whether you think he should have gone to the police with the information McQuery gave him, it is undeniable that he allowed Sandusky to continue to use his access to the Penn State football program to groom boys so he could molest them. Sandusky still had the run of the facility up until he was arrested.


No, he didn't. He was told that Sandusky's keys were taken from him. There isn't any evidence that Joe knew that Sandusky was still using the showers.

Part of the reason why I'm giving Joe a break was because he was 114 years old. I find it very easy to believe that he didn't know what was going on those last few years.
 
2012-06-22 11:47:33 PM  

Sabyen91: Biness: Aar1012: TheManofPA: I hate listening to Madden, but he has been on a roll with this thing.

I'm just hearing John Madden in my head because of this line.

'Now you see, what the prosecution needs to do here is present the story from several of the victims plus from the witnesses. The way to win a conviction is with a guilty verdict....and 'BOOM' there it is!'

/Know you said Mark Madden

Top it off with a bloomin' onion! BOOM!

Pfft, if it isn't Terducken it isn't Madden.


There is a prison rape joke in there somewhere
 
2012-06-22 11:48:08 PM  
i bet you he will be turning alot of tight ends into wide receivers.
 
2012-06-22 11:48:09 PM  
Just to get us guys back to normal, here's a pic for us...

www.wheninromebro.com
 
2012-06-22 11:48:09 PM  
www.mkrob.com
 
2012-06-22 11:48:30 PM  

R.A.Danny: TuteTibiImperes: Paterno did go to the police when he was told about Sandusky's actions, and the police didn't do anything about it.

There are a number of powerful people, who, had they done the right thing, could have stopped this. They didn't.


Yep. I remember reading somewhere that Sandusky was just the tip of the iceberg and was part of a group that was networking kids to all sorts of people. Wish I had saved that article.
 
2012-06-22 11:48:34 PM  
No winners here - none.

The good news is that hopefully the victims can start their healing process and move on from this. They probably walk around with shame and guilt that isn't easily removed. Sandusky's family (outside of the wife I would guess) also needs to heal and deal with their denial that he could have done these "horrible" things.

I'm giving thanks for organizations like RAINN and Superheroes for Kids that help deal with the victims in the aftermath of this drama.

I'm not focusing effort on Sandusky - he's proven he's not worth mine.

I'm not a Penn State fan, so not really clouded here by that whole mess.
 
2012-06-22 11:48:39 PM  

girlygirlmpls: Or maybe one of his "adopted" kids will come forward with details about what it was like in the Sandusky household.



You didn't hear? One of his adopted kids did come forward with a claim of abuse. They were going to use his testimony as a rebuttal if Sandusky had testified.
 
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