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(Daily Mail)   Real life Hotwheels™ double loop stunt looks cool, totally safe   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 33
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2012-06-22 05:54:21 PM
this never worked out for me in real life...but i'm not an engineer
 
2012-06-22 10:02:24 PM
i725.photobucket.com

I prefer the loops on the old Johnny Lightning Cyclone track.

Now that would be a cool thing to see in full scale/real life.
 
2012-06-22 10:17:48 PM

Fark Me To Tears: [i725.photobucket.com image 640x345]

I prefer the loops on the old Johnny Lightning Cyclone track.

Now that would be a cool thing to see in full scale/real life.


Only at scale speed.
 
2012-06-22 10:19:23 PM
Top Gear just did it like 3 days ago in the video tab - but kudos for using orange track and an actual Hot Wheels logo
 
2012-06-22 10:20:52 PM
Absolutely it is totally safe. Did you not see the frickin safety net in it?
 
2012-06-22 10:24:32 PM
Wake me up when they ditch Hot Wheels and get one of those insane Darda loops.
 
2012-06-22 10:27:33 PM
Great, another 'stunt' that requires no skill.

/unless you consider driving straight a skill
 
2012-06-22 10:30:38 PM

MrEricSir: Wake me up when they ditch Hot Wheels and get one of those insane Darda loops.


Yep.
 
2012-06-22 10:31:37 PM

BigRightRear: Great, another 'stunt' that requires no skill.

/unless you consider driving straight a skill


well, depending on the loop, you have to steer a little to the right or left.
UNDER SUPER SWEET HIGH GEE FORCES!!! BRAH!!
call me when they do it with a boat.
 
2012-06-22 10:32:58 PM
I like when people think like this.
 
2012-06-22 10:37:23 PM

Fark Me To Tears: [i725.photobucket.com image 640x345]

I prefer the loops on the old Johnny Lightning Cyclone track.

Now that would be a cool thing to see in full scale/real life.



That looks like slot cars. Hotwheels or matchbox tracks was all gravity...you had to start on the top floor and run down the stairs. The track pieces connected with little red connector tongues.
 
2012-06-22 10:41:58 PM
i181.photobucket.com

They should have loops and jumps and crazy lights on every NASCAR race.


/god I locked that cheeseball movie!
// too bad it tanked at the box office
///also, too bad LSD is illegal.
 
2012-06-22 10:42:48 PM

Benjimin_Dover: Absolutely it is totally safe. Did you not see the frickin safety net in it?


Don't start. I'm still upset that the Niagara Falls guy had an ankle tether.
 
2012-06-22 10:57:24 PM
Did anyone else instinctively start humming the theme from Hard Drivin' upon reading this headline?
 
2012-06-22 10:59:32 PM

ChrisDe: Benjimin_Dover: Absolutely it is totally safe. Did you not see the frickin safety net in it?

Don't start. I'm still upset that the Niagara Falls guy had an ankle tether.


The inside of the cars will prolly be filled with foam peanuts too.
 
2012-06-22 11:01:31 PM
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Approves of this.
 
2012-06-22 11:39:57 PM
Heh. We always used to launch two cars from opposite directions so they'd smash together at the top of the loop.
 
2012-06-22 11:41:03 PM

Electrode: Did anyone else instinctively start humming the theme from Hard Drivin' upon reading this headline?


I sure did

Then I started thinking about someone building a real criss cross crash.
 
2012-06-22 11:50:50 PM
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Bob Burnquist approves. Switch.
 
2012-06-23 12:03:16 AM

Riche: [i181.photobucket.com image 340x256]

They should have loops and jumps and crazy lights on every NASCAR race.


/god I locked that cheeseball movie!
// too bad it tanked at the box office
///also, too bad LSD is illegal.


I also liked that movie. And i also thought during it "man, id really like to try shrooms and watch this again".


Fano: Electrode: Did anyone else instinctively start humming the theme from Hard Drivin' upon reading this headline?

I sure did

Then I started thinking about someone building a real criss cross crash.


I think some places do sorta a combination demo derby/sprint car racing on a figure 8 track.
 
2012-06-23 12:08:26 AM
FTFA: "Mr McKay added: 'When you drive through the loop and you turn towards the center and there's an outward force, and having the right amount of force allows you to go upside down without falling."

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I personally believe that Hot Wheels are unable to do loops because, uh, some, uh. . . cars out there in our nation don't have gravity and, uh, I believe that our, uh, racing like such as in hammerhead turns and, uh, the corkscrew, every stunt like such as, and, I believe that they should, our racing over HERE in Hot Wheels should help the real cars, uh, or, uh, should help hammerhead turns and should help the corkscrew and the Immelman, so we will be able to build up our future, for our stunt drivers.
 
2012-06-23 12:14:50 AM

gweilo8888: FTFA: "Mr McKay added: 'When you drive through the loop and you turn towards the center and there's an outward force, and having the right amount of force allows you to go upside down without falling."

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I personally believe that Hot Wheels are unable to do loops because, uh, some, uh. . . cars out there in our nation don't have gravity and, uh, I believe that our, uh, racing like such as in hammerhead turns and, uh, the corkscrew, every stunt like such as, and, I believe that they should, our racing over HERE in Hot Wheels should help the real cars, uh, or, uh, should help hammerhead turns and should help the corkscrew and the Immelman, so we will be able to build up our future, for our stunt drivers.


I bow to your greatness.
 
2012-06-23 12:17:31 AM
what's a car
 
2012-06-23 12:34:33 AM

Fano: Electrode: Did anyone else instinctively start humming the theme from Hard Drivin' upon reading this headline?

I sure did

Then I started thinking about someone building a real criss cross crash.


Now THAT would be great to watch.
 
2012-06-23 01:17:52 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: what's a car


Nothing, whats a matta wit you?
 
2012-06-23 01:30:25 AM
FTA: "There's 7g of force so we have a 3,000 lb car to counteract it"

LoLWuT? That's a disturbing amount of high school physics fail for one short sentence, especially one formatted as a quote from one of the engineers.

The mass of the car is largely irrelevant without aerodynamics, except to the stress on the ramp structure.

I am curious as to why they are pulling so much as 7g ... clearly, all you need to stay firmly planted is around 2g at the top of the loop (1 for gravity, 1 to hold on). Too tired to do the math on entry speed at this hour. Maybe they expect to lose a lot of speed to friction on the first loop.

At that high a loading, my concern would be tyre pressures and suspension compliance to maintain control.

/ our local "country club" private track has a dip just before a hairpin, I can get about 1.6g of braking on the R compounds with the suspension on full compression :)
 
2012-06-23 01:52:21 AM

Abox: Fark Me To Tears: [i725.photobucket.com image 640x345]

I prefer the loops on the old Johnny Lightning Cyclone track.

Now that would be a cool thing to see in full scale/real life.


That looks like slot cars. Hotwheels or matchbox tracks was all gravity...you had to start on the top floor and run down the stairs. The track pieces connected with little red connector tongues.


They were NOT slot cars. Johnny Lightning was a direct competitor with Hot Wheels. The track pieces assembled with plastic tongues just like Hot Wheels' tracks did. The biggest difference between the two was that the Johnny Lightning cars and tracks were a slightly larger gauge than HW, so the HL cars were just a little too big to work with HW track. Not by much, but just enough to make them incompatible with each other. Basic HW track was yellow/orange with purple/red connectors. Basic JL track was red with yellow connectors. The connectors and tracks were not interchangeable because of the slight gauge difference.

The JL cars were pretty much the same construction as HW, except JL cars had a protrusion at the bottom at the front axle which served as a catapult hook. Some Johnny Lightning track sets came with a catapult section that required you to watch as the cars passed over it. You would then shove a handle in the same direction as the car was moving, the handle being attached to a catapult mechanism that would catch the car's "hook" and launch it for another lap around the track. It was a cool setup and it allowed for wild track configurations like the Cyclone (shown in the photo in my earlier posting).

In response to Johnny Lightning's catapult setup, Hot Wheels came out with their battery-powered Super Charger, which accelerated the cars with rollers as they passed through it (it even allowed for variable speeds). That was when JL came out with three black dual-track setups, including the Cyclone. The catapults were still manually operated and required a keen eye and fast reflexes to operate properly.

Not to be outdone, HW countered again with new rechargeable NiCad-powered cars called Sizzlers. Sizzlers would work okay on regular HW track and curves -- but not on the standard gravity loops or on the jump ramps. However, to really exploit Sizzlers, you needed to buy the Sizzlers' super-wide black track with wide high-banked curves. On these tracks, the Sizzlers would flat-out move until their batteries ran down. When that happened, you plugged them into their charging station, and a minute or so later, you were ready to run again.

At that point, Hot Wheels pretty much killed Johnny Lightning as far as track sales went. Matchbox cars -- although well-liked -- didn't have the elaborate tracks and accessories that Hot Wheels did. During the days of the track wars, Hot Wheels dominated.
 
2012-06-23 02:06:56 AM

Abox: Hotwheels or matchbox tracks was all gravity...you had to start on the top floor and run down the stairs.


Hot Wheels, Johnny Lightning, and Matchbox all had basic "economy" tracks that worked that way. Hot Wheels had clamps that you could attach to a table top, attach the track or (start gate) to them and then the track sloped down to the floor where it would continue, depending upon the configuration, through curves and/or loops. Dual sets had a plastic start gate with a push button that released the cars simultaneously and a plastic finish gate that dropped a checkered flag down over the winning car's lane. Johnny Lightning and Matchbox had their own versions of gravity track setups.

The gravity sets were just the beginning though, as I've explained in my previous post.
 
2012-06-23 02:20:41 AM
Zero g at the top, radius of 30 ft,
v^2 / r = g
v^2/30 = 32
v ~- 30 ft/sec = 20 mph at the top but
mgh = 1/2 m v^2 going down so add
v = sqrt(2 g h) = sqrt(2(32)(30)) ~= 44 ft/sec = 30 mph
so 30 mph + 20 mph = 50 mph going in.
G-forces at the bottom
g = v^2 / r = (44 + 30)^2/30 ~= 180 ~= 5.7 g's.

/Wait, this is slashdot right?
 
2012-06-23 03:48:18 AM
We live in amazing times... I approve.
 
2012-06-23 07:10:05 AM
nice FAKE article there... subby needs to learn to read.
 
2012-06-23 09:27:11 AM

a far candle: Zero g at the top, radius of 30 ft,
v^2 / r = g
v^2/30 = 32
v ~- 30 ft/sec = 20 mph at the top but
mgh = 1/2 m v^2 going down so add
v = sqrt(2 g h) = sqrt(2(32)(30)) ~= 44 ft/sec = 30 mph
so 30 mph + 20 mph = 50 mph going in.
G-forces at the bottom
g = v^2 / r = (44 + 30)^2/30 ~= 180 ~= 5.7 g's.

/Wait, this is slashdot right?


i was told there would be no math!
 
2012-06-23 11:55:41 AM
Fifth Gear did it a few years ago. Without safety nets. Awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZoVAZGgsw
 
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