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(BusinessWeek)   Olive Garden and Red Lobster struggle to revive sales, as American appetite for authentic Italian foods and high-class seafood cuisine dwindles   (businessweek.com) divider line 149
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2012-06-22 05:36:06 PM
7 votes:
2012-06-22 07:01:12 PM
5 votes:
Red Lobster and Olive Garden are in the same category as Applebee's, Chili's, On the Border, Chi-Chi's (remember those?), etc. Piss poor representations of their respective cuisines. Joe's Crab Shack sucks, too.
When you know where all the independent restaurants or hole-in-the-wall joints are in town, the chains just don't cut it.
Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB. Same goes for Italian-- why spend a fortune eating at Carrabba's when V's or Garozzo's has much better food? It might sound snobby, and that's okay, but there's no way anyone can say with a straight face that the food is better at those chain restaurants.
2012-06-22 06:54:44 PM
4 votes:
This past Easter I took my mother and daughter to Red Lobster after church service because my mother really wanted to go and since she's 63 with MS she tends to get her way. Even she had to admit that it was a god-awful meal, especially considering what we paid and I know that I will never eat there again. Mind you I have fairly mid-western plebian tastes when it comes to food so I am not hard to please, however deep fried everything with a side of icky tartar sauce was not worth the price tag. AT least Mom got to share some of her memories about eating there back in the 70's and 80's, which was a nice part of the day for her, but I don't think she'll ask to go back.

Plus, since we were in our Easter Sunday clothes and no one dresses up to go out anymore, (why do American white people dress casually for everything?!) we were emphatically overdressed. Only one other elderly couple was there dressed up. They, too, had just come from church and one look around was nearly enough to send them back out the door only the wife insisted on staying.

Overpriced, lousy food and no ambiance is not a way to attract customers.
2012-06-22 06:48:19 PM
4 votes:
I currently live in "fly over" country and there are plenty of decent local Italian places. Italian is hardly exotic food. Are there really places in this country so devoid of local restaurants that they need to do Olive Garden?


Doc Daneeka

iaazathot: On the other hand the same business group operates PF Chang's which has some decent food by comparison.

One of the worst meals I ever had was at a PF Chang's. It was disgusting.


I had PF Changs when it was still relatively unknown outside a few branches. Their duck was pretty good. Once they became more or less national, they must have seriously slipped on standards. And imho, it now sucks. I wouldn't eat there.
2012-06-22 06:43:06 PM
4 votes:

Jgok: I'll never understand it... Someone asks where to get good Italian food in town, I start listing off a dozen good locally-owned places, and they interrupt me to ask if there's an Olive Garden in town.

/I thought you wanted ITALIAN food.


EXACTLY.. And if you live within a few hours of a coastline there is NO EXCUSE to eat at Red Lobster.. Hell even in Philly you can eat seafood that is still kicking pulled out of the ocean the day before or that very morning..
2012-06-22 06:37:57 PM
4 votes:

kroonermanblack: I'll agree with the red lobster thing, I like the bread and that's about it.

Olive garden, while not being 'good' italian food, is a passable enough go at it that it's fine. All one really ever wants from faux italian is too much bread/starch/pasta, and passable sauce. I choose better when I can, but if you just want to 'go get something', it's fine. Like Mcdonalds isn't super cuisine, but it's a passable interpretation of a burger.


The thing is though, it's not even cheap. I guess if you just totally don't know an area, and can't be bothered to use urbanspoon or google local or something, that'd be the only reason I can see to go to those places.
2012-06-22 06:34:43 PM
4 votes:
Olive Garden = Salt flavored heated frozen pasta
Red Lobster = Salt flavored frozen seafood
2012-06-22 06:32:03 PM
4 votes:
I dunno if Red Lobster changed, or my tastes did, but that shiat is terrible. So damn salty that you can't even taste what you're eating, it's disgusting.
2012-06-22 09:44:33 PM
3 votes:
Certain members of my family, whose names are best left unsaid, love Olive Garden. I had the misfortune of sitting through a birthday dinner there a few weeks ago, it was a 45 minute wait for a table. A few days later I found a mom and pop Italian restaurant in the same town that not only had the best manicotti I've ever had, they were practically empty that night. On the way home I drove by Olive Garden and sure enough, the parking lot is packed and I see people standing by the door waiting to get in.

I don't want to live in this country anymore.
2012-06-22 07:34:05 PM
3 votes:

LtDarkstar: What's funny is watching all of the ghetto black people who go to Red Lobster in their "finest" fake furs and crap because to them that's a "very upscale restaurant" LOL! I wonder how many times Red Lobster has been asked if they take food stamps :P


It's even funnier watching the trailer trash white folks like you that go there dressed in your best CAT hat and flannel laughing at them when everybody already knows the real joke is that Red Lobster is the closest that you will ever get to an upscale restaurant.
2012-06-22 07:03:13 PM
3 votes:

dericwater: TheGreatGazoo: OG and RL both have decent dinner rolls/bread sticks.

The last time I ate at RL it was next to the hotel I was staying at. I got shrimp pasta alfredo (pretty hard to screw up). It was served with the cheese on the top molten and the cheese in the middle raw.

Which means it wasn't microwaved. Otherwise, the cheese in the middle would be melted and the cheese on top would not.


I see people make this assertion, and yet no microwave oven I've ever used has actually worked like this. I have yet to encounter one that cooks from the inside out. If you have a make and model you can recommend, that'd be awesome. I'd love to give it a spin.
2012-06-22 06:59:01 PM
3 votes:

Hermione_Granger: Plus, since we were in our Easter Sunday clothes and no one dresses up to go out anymore, (why do American white people dress casually for everything?!) we were emphatically overdressed.


European white people don't put on their suits to go to McDonalds either...
2012-06-22 06:41:19 PM
3 votes:
PF Chang's is the worst mass-market chinese food I've ever been in. It's vile. The food is way over salted and even if they claim no MSG, I leave there with that MSG shake and the tightening of the throat.

Just vile and way too expensive for chinese.
2012-06-22 06:38:36 PM
3 votes:
I'll never understand it... Someone asks where to get good Italian food in town, I start listing off a dozen good locally-owned places, and they interrupt me to ask if there's an Olive Garden in town.

/I thought you wanted ITALIAN food.
2012-06-22 06:34:43 PM
3 votes:
Yay, food snob thread!
2012-06-22 06:34:32 PM
3 votes:
I'll agree with the red lobster thing, I like the bread and that's about it.

Olive garden, while not being 'good' italian food, is a passable enough go at it that it's fine. All one really ever wants from faux italian is too much bread/starch/pasta, and passable sauce. I choose better when I can, but if you just want to 'go get something', it's fine. Like Mcdonalds isn't super cuisine, but it's a passable interpretation of a burger.
2012-06-22 06:33:08 PM
3 votes:
all you can eat shrimp at red lobster or get the fark out
2012-06-23 12:17:11 AM
2 votes:
My hubby and I got a 25 dollar gift card to Olive Garden from my mom-in-law. Thinking that would cover our meal we ate, I had a glass of wine, he had a soda, no dessert we had to pay 30 bucks out of pocket! I can go to REAL Italian restaraunts for less. Why would ANYONE go there?
2012-06-22 10:57:52 PM
2 votes:

TravisBickle62: I don't really want authentic ethnic food, because most of the world's people are dirt poor and they eat shiat.

So if you want a really authentic ethnic meal, you are going to get served up a plate of shiat.



Doesn't get more ignorant than this

Gotta love Americans
2012-06-22 10:20:35 PM
2 votes:

urban.derelict: Omahawg: Interesting, but what the hell's Capers?

sarcasm or a real question?

Yeah. I don't understand it either. Are they pickled peas or something? What's with the jar of formaldehyde? Who the f*ck would eat that?


I'm astounded that it's possible to make it to adulthood without know what capers are.

I suppose it's possible if you're the type of person who doesn't know that cheese comes in colors other than orange.
2012-06-22 10:14:04 PM
2 votes:
As someone who grew up in a commercial fishing family and having all sorts of fresh fish, lobster, and clams I have to laugh at people that think RL is decent food. I can get lobster caught the same day which doesn't make any difference since they'll live in the fridge for days. Live clams will last a couple weeks in the fridge. WTF do seafood vendors bother to say fresh clams/lobster? As long as they are alive they taste the same. Eat a dead clam and you'll have your head in the toilet for hours. Haven't had Maine lobster, but would love to compare it to Cape Cod lobster, don' think there would be a difference. Besides I get my lobster free so why bother. Having striped bass ceviche as an appetizer tomorrow, yummmm.
2012-06-22 09:48:45 PM
2 votes:

ZeroCorpse: styckx: My favorite ghetto place (and by ghetto I mean stereotyping the place by the commericials) is Golden Corral. I see their commercials all the time and lol @ the fattie magnet Chocolate Wonderfall and now they're even giving away Cotton Candy.. That place is the poster child for obesity in America.

I used to work in a Sveden House restaurant. It was a smorgasbord (using the term loosely. It was really just a run-of-the-mill buffet), and every Sunday all the absolute fattest people in the tri-city area would drop in, pay their $5.00 a head (this was the 80s), and stay there ALL DAY, eating like pigs.

It was disgusting. I'm not just talking about your average fat people, here. I'm talking about the kind of people who need two chairs... The kind of people who have to wash with a rag on a stick... The kind of people who probably have car keys and missing household pets stuck within their folds of fat.

And these heifers would load up their plates with everything at once. Mashed potatoes with chocolate sauce? You bet! Swedish Meatballs covered in nacho cheese? Oh, yes! Beef gravy milkshakes? They did it. An entire plate heaped with Jell-O and corn? Yes, they did that, too. Getting their coffee in a bowl? Yes. Filling a plastic cup with chili, water, and cheese, and then drinking it? Yes, they did this, too.

Barfing on the table and shiatting on the floor in the restroom? That was them, as well. One time, I even found a plate full of chicken bones in a stall, on the floor next to the toilet... Some porker waddled in there with a pile of fried chicken and sat there crapping and eating for what must have been at least 15 minutes. Possibly more. It was a lot of chicken bones. I think it might have been the equivalent of a chicken and a half. And the bones were cracked, too. They sucked the marrow out of at least some of them. ...All while taking a dump.

The place was horrific. It was almost 30 years ago, and I still occasionally have nightmares about it. And the worst thing about it was the the owner had a strict rule: No bussing the tables until the whole party leaves. That meant the mess piled up in the middle of the table, and under it, and on the floor next to chairs... All while these people stayed for hours and hours, eating more food in a day than some people eat in a month.

So the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral doesn't bother me. It has nothing on the Sveden House.


WTF!!!!!
I have worked in a few restaurants in my day but WTF!!!!
2012-06-22 09:33:01 PM
2 votes:
I figure the people who like Red Lobster or Olive Garden either:

1) Don't have any other options in their area.
2) Haven't ever had decent quality/tasting food of the respective food type.
3) Simply don't know better due to either 1 and/or 2.

I have no problems with chain restaurants, although many of them are terrible. Some are decent though. However, many of them are reasonably priced so I can see why people would eat there - for economic reasons. For the life of me I don't know why anyone would pay $30 a plate at Red Lobster when you can go to an upscale restaurant and get a MUCH MUCH MUCH better entree for the same price. You might get less food, but the quality is so much higher. Do you really need all you can eat anything?

Olive Garden just microwaves frozen meals so I don't why anyone would eat there, it's really repulsive. I don't really care if it's authentic Italian food or not as this is not a concern for me, what concerns me is that is extremely low quality and tastes bad.

And as much as I despise a place like Denny's, I can at least see why someone would eat there if you can get a meal for $3 or whatever. I refuse to step foot in the place, but it's more reasonable to me than paying high prices for low quality.
2012-06-22 09:21:06 PM
2 votes:

styckx: My favorite ghetto place (and by ghetto I mean stereotyping the place by the commericials) is Golden Corral. I see their commercials all the time and lol @ the fattie magnet Chocolate Wonderfall and now they're even giving away Cotton Candy.. That place is the poster child for obesity in America.


I used to work in a Sveden House restaurant. It was a smorgasbord (using the term loosely. It was really just a run-of-the-mill buffet), and every Sunday all the absolute fattest people in the tri-city area would drop in, pay their $5.00 a head (this was the 80s), and stay there ALL DAY, eating like pigs.

It was disgusting. I'm not just talking about your average fat people, here. I'm talking about the kind of people who need two chairs... The kind of people who have to wash with a rag on a stick... The kind of people who probably have car keys and missing household pets stuck within their folds of fat.

And these heifers would load up their plates with everything at once. Mashed potatoes with chocolate sauce? You bet! Swedish Meatballs covered in nacho cheese? Oh, yes! Beef gravy milkshakes? They did it. An entire plate heaped with Jell-O and corn? Yes, they did that, too. Getting their coffee in a bowl? Yes. Filling a plastic cup with chili, water, and cheese, and then drinking it? Yes, they did this, too.

Barfing on the table and shiatting on the floor in the restroom? That was them, as well. One time, I even found a plate full of chicken bones in a stall, on the floor next to the toilet... Some porker waddled in there with a pile of fried chicken and sat there crapping and eating for what must have been at least 15 minutes. Possibly more. It was a lot of chicken bones. I think it might have been the equivalent of a chicken and a half. And the bones were cracked, too. They sucked the marrow out of at least some of them. ...All while taking a dump.

The place was horrific. It was almost 30 years ago, and I still occasionally have nightmares about it. And the worst thing about it was the the owner had a strict rule: No bussing the tables until the whole party leaves. That meant the mess piled up in the middle of the table, and under it, and on the floor next to chairs... All while these people stayed for hours and hours, eating more food in a day than some people eat in a month.

So the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral doesn't bother me. It has nothing on the Sveden House.
2012-06-22 08:29:21 PM
2 votes:
Chain restaurants are fine if you want average, consistent food.

But when I'm out of town, I already have a Red Lobster back home I don't eat at, so why bother?
2012-06-22 08:02:46 PM
2 votes:
If Texas is any indication, I think part of their dwindling sales might be a result of other chains which emphasize higher-quality(relatively) food, in particular the owners of Fish Daddy's and Cheddar's, have been intentionally locating their competing franchises near to Red Lobster and Olive Garden shops, especially in growing markets. The price differences between a Carino's and an Olive Garden aren't that different, and the difference in quality is enormous.
Biv
2012-06-22 07:58:29 PM
2 votes:

DocFarker: How do a bunch of honkie crakers turn an article about Red Lobster and Olive Garden loosing business in piss poor economic times into a race issue?


LOSING, it's LOSING damn it. Why do so many people spell that wrong?

I ate at OG once, it was decent but expensive. As someone else says, I think the location has a lot to do with it. Never been to a RL or PF.

I'm guilty of being fond of Panda Express. Black Pepper Chicken FTW.
2012-06-22 07:53:38 PM
2 votes:

KOOLmike: Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB.


Because On The Border's Gringo-Mex is so different from authentic Mexican that it's essentially an entirely different cuisine altogether. It's sorta like comparing French and Italian cuisine and arguing about which is more authentically Italian. Of course Italian food is more Italian than French food, but that doesn't make French food BAD. I happen to like both.
2012-06-22 07:48:39 PM
2 votes:

hbk72777: Ray Liotta described what Olive Garden makes in Goodfellas

"I asked for spaghetti with marinara and I got egg noodles and ketchup"


You should try an "Italian" restaurant in a Japanese shopping mall sometime.

Well, no, really, you shouldn't.

Ever.
2012-06-22 06:58:08 PM
2 votes:
I think the reason old people like OG is because you can gum the pasta. Seriously, I don't think the people who run that restaurant have ever heard of al-dente.
2012-06-22 06:48:13 PM
2 votes:
Olive Garden is the worst crap on the face of the planet.
2012-06-22 06:47:13 PM
2 votes:
My GF loves olive garden for the breadsticks and italian dressing. She drags me there a few times a year to get her fix, even though there is a much better and cheaper locally owned italian restaurant about a mile from our house.

Getting old time, the attempt at making it "when you're here you're family", needs to stop. They need some better dividers or sound dampeners, even half empty, I can barely hear myself speak. That, and when was the last time you paid your family to cook for you?
2012-06-22 06:46:12 PM
2 votes:
Our Olive Garden is always packed; it's like the fancy restaurant for the ghetto and the "eh, it's slightly more Italian than the little bitty place you can't get into anyway" for the rest of us.

As for Red Lobster...why they thought a Red Lobster would do good in the South Coast of Massachusetts is beyond me.

\but apparently the one next to Downtown Disney is good because it's their show restaurant :P
2012-06-22 06:39:43 PM
2 votes:

Rufus Lee King: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Called my dad on father's day. He said he'd gone to Red Lobster for dinner only to find it "full of every black and mexican" in the area.

I LOL'd at his racism.

Wow, didn't take long to insert "racism" into it, eh?


and another dummy who doesn't know how an implication works and how easily it is to read between the lines when talking to someone you know like a family member or close friend.

If a farker said it to another farker in text and you assume racism that is bad.

When someone you intimately know gives you some variation of the old "those people" line in real life it is easy to tell if they are being racist or not.

You are either trolling, dense or a racist.
2012-06-22 06:39:05 PM
2 votes:
I don't get the Red Lobster hate: took the mrs. there last month on a date, the wood-fire-grilled salmon was teh sex. Really, very good, and yet still reasonably priced.
2012-06-22 06:35:33 PM
2 votes:

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Called my dad on father's day. He said he'd gone to Red Lobster for dinner only to find it "full of every black and mexican" in the area.

I LOL'd at his racism.


rlv.zcache.com
2012-06-22 06:33:44 PM
2 votes:
On the other hand the same business group operates PF Chang's which has some decent food by comparison. All the little old ladies in this town just go on and on about how we need an Olive Garden. My wife is from a very Italian family (grandfather off the boat), and it just drives her crazy.
2012-06-22 06:32:33 PM
2 votes:
Olive Garden I can stomach.

Red Lobster?

strongdogz.com
2012-06-23 10:31:32 PM
1 votes:
The feed at Longhorns today was great, FWIW. Damn good NY Sirloin, cooked perfectly.
2012-06-23 07:49:07 PM
1 votes:

Your Average Witty Fark User: JesseL: Great restaurants for those really special occasions when even someplace as fancy as Applebee's or Chili's won't do.

I don't know why you douchebags have to rag on those four chains constantly. They're great for what they do- if you want fine dining, go to a fine dining establishment. If you want a steak, go to a steakhouse. If you want what they're offering, go there.

No need to be dicks about it.

/says this every.goddamn.time.


And what exactly do they do that's so great? Provide an nonthreatening choice for people across the nation who enjoy moderately priced family dining and food that consistently uses salt and cheese to make up for the fact that it's otherwise bland, poorly prepared, and made with low quality ingredients? They're farking McDonald's with pretensions.
2012-06-23 03:11:39 PM
1 votes:

Your Average Witty Fark User: JesseL: Great restaurants for those really special occasions when even someplace as fancy as Applebee's or Chili's won't do.

I don't know why you douchebags have to rag on those four chains constantly. They're great for what they do- if you want fine dining, go to a fine dining establishment. If you want a steak, go to a steakhouse. If you want what they're offering, go there.

No need to be dicks about it.

/says this every.goddamn.time.


White-knighting chain restaurants every.goddamn.time.?

How noble.
2012-06-23 01:34:13 AM
1 votes:

The Jami Turman Fan Club: farkityfarker: MeAs much as I hear the term "authentic" Italian food, or Mexican food, or whatever else, I've still yet go get an explanation of what it actually consists of.

Authentic Mexican food involves tortillas, cheese, and refried beans, in various combinations. Oh, and hot sauce. I had some before they put on the hot sauce, it was the blandest stuff imaginable.


Rick Bayless should punch you in the nuts for saying that.
2012-06-23 12:56:05 AM
1 votes:

marcre3363: I had some friends from Iowa who went to Manhattan to run the marathon. When they told me they went to the Olive Garden in Times Square for dinner the night before, I was floored. I've eaten at a good half-dozen fantastic Italian restaurants in Manhattan, all of which I randomly stumbled across. But they're small town and wanted to go to a place they recognized.

When my wife and I were in Minnesota a few years ago, we decided to eat at the Olive Garden for lunch. She ordered a lunch pizza that was good. I looked the menu up and down and couldn't find a single entree that looked good. So I ordered a soup/salad/breadstick combo, which was quite good. But I would never go there for a real "meal".

Twenty years ago, I thought it was a decent place. Now I know better.


Then why didnt they stay home? Im sure they could have found a marathon somewhere in iowa instead of spending probably hundreds of dollars to go to the big scary city where they proceeded to do what they could do any night of the week back home. If that attitude makes me a snob, fine, but i just dont understand people who will fly halfway around the world and then go to farking mcdonalds.

And i dont even like to travel that much, theres so many things around just my state that ive never done, literally hundreds of restaurants in the city that i still havent eaten at yet, all without the expense or hassle of getting on a plane. Ill admit i like Red Robin, but if im down in chicago for the weekend im not even going to bother looking for one, that would never even occur to me, my thinking is going to be what CANT i get back home.
2012-06-23 12:28:20 AM
1 votes:

styckx: Oh and Applebees doesn't suck if you look at its usefulness correctly.

Usually Applebees has one of the better bar setups and some of the best drunk food available. I spent more time in my drinking days getting hammered at Applebees than the local bars..


Sorry dude, but that sounds really pathetic.


I think whats killing these chains, in part, is the rise of smartphones. Most of the times ive been to olive garden has been on the road, driving through some random town, no way to know whats good, see an OG, its like "well, at least we know itll be ok" im sure theres a good place a few blocks away, but if youre not a local how to find it pre yelp/urbanspoon days.

And with these no one has any reason to go to red lobster ever.

ecx.images-amazon.com


Make em with milk instead of water so theyre a little richer and maybe spray some pam ontop to make em authentically greasy if you really want.
2012-06-22 11:58:49 PM
1 votes:

Benjimin_Dover: intelligent comment below: badgerb: Benjimin_Dover: I'm not sure why ANY person goes out to a restaurant to get "Italian." Seriously? It's a sauce on some shape of pasta. You can do the same shiat at your place for a buck or so worth of stuff.

This.

Italian food is overrated.


Go to Italy before you say that.

Or even Chicago, NYC, LA

No matter where you go, what you get in an Italian place is not much different than what can be bought at a grocery store. just about any one of them, you can go into the frozen food section and find all kinds of bags of "something-alfredo" or "something-parmesiano" or whatever nonsense they do. It might not be the best but the crap in any restaurant sure isn't going to be seven times better to coinside with the price. I love steak. I know quite a few joints that do an awesome job. I complain the same about them. I have to go out to eat because my gf makes me. I can do almost as good for far far far far far less cost at home. So when it comes to restaurants and having to take it in the ass costwise, I am going to to someplace where it takes a little more effort to make my meal than pouring whatever sauce on some pasta or eggplant or chicken. Because in the end, that is the majority of Italian.


*sigh*

That is because Italian food is so popular because it is so good that it has been bagged and processed.

/Gonna go buy a bag of pre-marinated burger patties. Love them so much.
//Try following an actual recipe for something as simple as chicken piccata and make it at home. Then you'll see why there are so many Italian pre-prepared in the local grocery store.
2012-06-22 11:36:59 PM
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: misanthropic1: However, a quick glance at urbanspoon yields a lot of pretty highly rated restaurants with a $10-15 entree range

What is 'highly rated'? I see a couple Olive Garden's in the 80% range and Red Lobsters in the upper 70's. People tend to rate OK food that is cheap pretty high. For God's sake, Tony Luke's is rated 87% on that site and it's a steak sandwich place!

I'm no expert on center city Philly, but outside of 'pubs', I'd say the City Tavern is a reasonably priced place. Obviously just one random dude's opinion, but I'd consider it a place with food well above an Olive Garden or Red Lobster and once you get into seafood or beef on their menu, you are looking at $24.95 or higher. I had rack of lamb there for $34.95 on my birthday and it was out of this world. If I'm getting an entree for less than $20 that is beef or seafood, I won't expect it to be much better than the chains.


If City Tavern is your reference point, you need to try more Philly restaurants.

Suggestions that won't break the bank:

Melograno
Parc
Tinto
Zahav
Friday Saturday Sunday
Meme
Shake Shack
2012-06-22 11:34:42 PM
1 votes:
I live in St. Louis. We have a neighborhood call The Hill with one of the best Italian food outside of NYC and many of them are quite reasonable.... Someone pls shoot me if you ever see me at a R. L or O.G.
Sad thing is there are actually many locals who go to these sorry excuse for Italian food.
2012-06-22 11:07:57 PM
1 votes:

MrEricSir: Why do elderly folks love Olive Garden so much? Seems like every time I go by one, there's a flock of 70+ folks waiting outside. Do they get a discount, or did they simply reach the age where they can't taste anything and don't care? Or both?


They feel comfortable there. No big screen TVs and visual assaults like a sports bar. No Loud music so you have to shout.
It's not just Olive Garden; Go into most 'hipster places'. And older person would feel wildly out of place there. Be aware of your surroundings...and you'll see the places you go are also frequented by people in your same age group.
2012-06-22 10:59:59 PM
1 votes:

misanthropic1: theknuckler_33: I love the disdain for Olive Garden and Red Lobster... as if you are supposed to get high quality cuisine at an Applebess-level chain restaurant. For the $16 or so you'll pay for an entree there, it's acceptable.

Is that sarcasm or are you just unwilling to drive into downtown? I mean, I suppose you specified "Applebess-level" which entails way overpriced, low-quality food, but you can do so much better for $16-$20 an entree in Philly it's not even in the ballpark next to the one it's not even in.

/IMFSO


I don't get the point of going to those places when Perkins, Embers, IHOP, and other places serve the same food for 2/3 of the price. The main difference between that and the Applebee's level is that the latter servers alcohol.

Example- why does anybody go to Olive Garden instead of Fazoli's?
2012-06-22 10:32:05 PM
1 votes:

The Jami Turman Fan Club: farkityfarker: MeAs much as I hear the term "authentic" Italian food, or Mexican food, or whatever else, I've still yet go get an explanation of what it actually consists of.

Authentic Mexican food involves tortillas, cheese, and refried beans, in various combinations. Oh, and hot sauce. I had some before they put on the hot sauce, it was the blandest stuff imaginable.


You're a riot. Ahem: http://hugosrestaurant.net/

/traditional Mexican is an incredibly diverse, regionally-oriented cuisine
//tex-mex is as you described, give or take some lard and/or beef
2012-06-22 10:31:47 PM
1 votes:

rustypouch: urban.derelict: Omahawg: Interesting, but what the hell's Capers?

sarcasm or a real question?

Yeah. I don't understand it either. Are they pickled peas or something? What's with the jar of formaldehyde? Who the f*ck would eat that?

I'm astounded that it's possible to make it to adulthood without know what capers are.

I suppose it's possible if you're the type of person who doesn't know that cheese comes in colors other than orange.


I've memorized the PLU code (4543) for Belgian endive because the clerks always ask me what it is. But a few weeks ago I was buying asparagus and the checkout girl asked, "Is this asparagus?" At least she knew the word.
2012-06-22 10:31:11 PM
1 votes:

rustypouch: I'm astounded that it's possible to make it to adulthood without know what capers are.


I worked with a fifty-year-old woman in Huntsville, Alabama who didn't know what a date was.
2012-06-22 10:26:06 PM
1 votes:

AbortionsForAll: MrHappyRotter: Benjimin_Dover: I'm not sure why ANY person goes out to a restaurant to get "Italian." Seriously? It's a sauce on some shape of pasta. You can do the same shiat at your place for a buck or so worth of stuff.

The vegan place that operates below me serves gluten-free non-GMO orginically grown in the U.S. pasta and pasta sauces. They have the most incredible vegan meatballs made with a combination of mycoprotein and soy-based gelatins, you would never know it wasn't beef, aside from how easily it breaks apart in your mouth and the fact that it's a bit saltier and slightly more bland.

Tell me that you can make that for what you describe as "a buck or so worth of stuff". Vegan meatballs alone cost almost $2 per service (I did the math).

Mmmm... You're making me hungry just talking about it...


I love you.
2012-06-22 10:19:41 PM
1 votes:

John Buck 41: Cup_O_Jo: This company also bought Longhorns and are destroying it.

That sucks. My daughter is taking me, Mrs. Buck, and my parents (her grandparents) there tomorrow. Went to Longhorns a little over a year ago. Enjoyed it.

Also went to the Ground Round about a year ago. My FiL poured ketchup (KETCHUP!) on a ribeye steak. It was all I could do not to jump across the table and strangle him.


Ground Round? Holy shiat they still exist? I remember when I was a kid (I'm 35) I remember dad taking me to the Ground Round and they'd play silent movies on a projector.. Was the coolest shiat.. Then I remember at some point they switched over to attracting Hipsters and turned it into a Sports bar.. Then it closed years ago.
2012-06-22 10:16:36 PM
1 votes:

urban.derelict: Omahawg: Interesting, but what the hell's Capers?

sarcasm or a real question?

Yeah. I don't understand it either. Are they pickled peas or something? What's with the jar of formaldehyde? Who the f*ck would eat that?


Respectively: flower buds, it's pickling liquid, and me. It's quintessential to much Mediterranean food, high-end tarter sauces/seafood salads, and most anything with smoked salmon (especially on an everything bagel with cream cheese and red onion). If you're more comfortable with double cheeseburgers though, more power to ya, I guess.
2012-06-22 10:15:49 PM
1 votes:

Cup_O_Jo: This company also bought Longhorns and are destroying it.


That sucks. My daughter is taking me, Mrs. Buck, and my parents (her grandparents) there tomorrow. Went to Longhorns a little over a year ago. Enjoyed it.

Also went to the Ground Round about a year ago. My FiL poured ketchup (KETCHUP!) on a ribeye steak. It was all I could do not to jump across the table and strangle him.
2012-06-22 10:10:47 PM
1 votes:

HempHead: kidsizedcoffin: Rufus Lee King: Speaking of crabs: When I worked in a seafood restaurant in Charleston, SC quite a few tourists would ask if the Alaskan king crabs were caught locally. They weren't kidding, either. Sure, they were caught locally. We caught them in boxes from a huge freezer in Shallotte, NC!

That's like asking if Chilean Sea Bass is caught in Chile.

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Yeah; the marketing department decided the human race wasn't decimating the world's most endangered commercial fishery fast enough and ordered a name change to rectify the problem...

/try not to eat it, mostly succeed
//pity it's so damn tasty
2012-06-22 10:08:52 PM
1 votes:
Why do elderly folks love Olive Garden so much? Seems like every time I go by one, there's a flock of 70+ folks waiting outside. Do they get a discount, or did they simply reach the age where they can't taste anything and don't care? Or both?
2012-06-22 10:00:45 PM
1 votes:

9beers: MrHappyRotter: Red Lobster == DISGUSTING

It's obviously not the best seafood but I've never had a problem with it when I've been there. If anything is disgusting, it's the people you see there. Most of the time you'd think the Red Lobster was attached to the local Wal-Mart.


I'm sorry, whether it was two, ten or twenty years ago, if a restaurant serves me dried out (but somehow slimey on the outside), tasteless and tiny scallops,. there's a very good chance I'm going to automatically assume their food is nasty. Serve me that same quality food a second time in a row, and I'm going to automatically assume their food is nasty and inedible for the entire span of my natural life. This is especially true for the cost/quality ratio of that chain. The only redeeming quality has been and likely always will be the cheesy biscuits they served, so I pray to God that they haven't done away with that.
2012-06-22 09:56:52 PM
1 votes:

Optimus Composite: Certain members of my family, whose names are best left unsaid, love Olive Garden. I had the misfortune of sitting through a birthday dinner there a few weeks ago, it was a 45 minute wait for a table. A few days later I found a mom and pop Italian restaurant in the same town that not only had the best manicotti I've ever had, they were practically empty that night. On the way home I drove by Olive Garden and sure enough, the parking lot is packed and I see people standing by the door waiting to get in.

I don't want to live in this country anymore.


Olive Garden has better marketing, and people will believe marketing, even if it's offal
2012-06-22 09:54:40 PM
1 votes:
www.copykat.com

The only reason I'll still eat at Red Lobster.

Though with some Bisquick you can make better ones at home that aren't nearly as salty.

/I also love their coconut shrimp
//Judge me, I don't care!
///Yes, I've had good seafood. Maryland and South Carolina. Delicious.
2012-06-22 09:50:33 PM
1 votes:
I find it sadly amusing that a thread bashing Olive Garden/Red Lobster will get about the same number of comments as a thread praising Taco Bell's new Doritos taco shells.
2012-06-22 09:48:14 PM
1 votes:

DocFarker: ZombiesYall: Hey, is this the thread where we brag about being too high-class to eat at chain restaurants?

Yelp, but you can only brag if your white though..


I'm more of a pinkish-beige, does this disqualify me?
2012-06-22 09:46:01 PM
1 votes:
Ersatz food for ersatz people.
2012-06-22 09:45:47 PM
1 votes:

Funk Brothers: This is what a kitchen in an average Red Lobster looks like.
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Oh Christ, that looks like it's from Silent farking Hill.
2012-06-22 09:43:39 PM
1 votes:
I used to love going to Red Lobster for those little baked shrimp scampi dishes, and the cheddar biscuits.

But, ever since I figured out how to make both myself, and how damn easy it was, I don't think I'll ever go back.

You have to drag me into an Olive Garden... I've never been pleased with the food at those places, and they're always so crowded and noisy it makes me want to pull an 'Arnold In Kindergarten Cop' in the middle of dinner. My family, however loves those kind of places, so whenever we get together it's Olive Garden/Red Lobster/Red Robin/Applebees...

/Ok, and occasionally Black Angus... They're OK...
2012-06-22 09:40:50 PM
1 votes:

highwayrun: I should be in the kitchen: highwayrun: I should be in the kitchen: I still tease my mom about the first time she and dad came to visit me in Vegas, nearly ten years ago now. They had offered to take my then-husband and I out to dinner and she suggested Olive Garden.

Who goes to Vegas to eat at the freakin' Olive Garden?

I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere, the little old man strolling around with his accordion and the all-you-can-drink house wine kick Olive Garden's ass any day.

I know, right? All kinds of choices to love in Vegas. You could be eating at the King's Buffet at the Excalibur or the Starchstravaganza at the Imperial Palace or Rewarmed Taco Night at the El Cortez.

I wouldn't know, I don't eat at buffets.

Funny thing about this city, there are nearly 2 million people in the metro area and we don't live on the Strip. It's not like there would be, you know, food options that cater to locals and tourists beyond the starch-bloated Midwestern Land Whales.

Think Imma hit the little family-owned Greek place by my house for dinner.

I did eat at buffets when I lived there. While some (the Rio, Paris) are better than others (the Orleans, Imperial Palace) they all tend to mediocre, which isn't surprising when you consider to whom they're marketing, namely gullible tourists.

I do have to say, though, Mr. Or Ms. Kitchen, that the best sushi I've ever had, hands down, was on Spring Mountain about a mile off the Strip.


Oh yeah, Chinatown! Awesome sushi places there, as long as they're actually Japanese owned and not Korean. I've had some damn fine Pho down there too.

Some good sushi places out in the 'burbs too, it seems like no matter which side if town you're on there's decent sushi nearby
2012-06-22 09:38:17 PM
1 votes:

Eeyore004: John Buck 41: Been to OG twice. Dragged there once by an ex, met a blind date the 2nd time. Never again. RL? Not so bad. Always enjoyed it. Wish they were still here (Bangor ME)

Wait, the Bangor OG closed? Where will the kids go on prom night if they can't afford the gas to get to Dysart's?


Nope. The RL closed. Quite a few years ago. There's still an Applebee's just up the street (and across from) OG.
2012-06-22 09:32:15 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse:

I used to work in a Sveden House restaurant..


you must have an iron stomach

I'd have vomited right into the middle of the table watching these things

did you ever offer someone a wafer thin mint, just in the vain hope they'd pop?
2012-06-22 09:23:26 PM
1 votes:

kidsizedcoffin: Rufus Lee King: Speaking of crabs: When I worked in a seafood restaurant in Charleston, SC quite a few tourists would ask if the Alaskan king crabs were caught locally. They weren't kidding, either. Sure, they were caught locally. We caught them in boxes from a huge freezer in Shallotte, NC!

That's like asking if Chilean Sea Bass is caught in Chile.


makeapowerfulpoint.files.wordpress.com
2012-06-22 09:17:44 PM
1 votes:

bim1154: The last time I was in a Red Lobster, it smelled like very bad pussy.


Yeah, the last time we went to a RL, which was like 2 -years- ago, I wasn't very impressed at all, especially with that big ass bill they brought me.
The wife always loved eating there as a kid, but that was her last time, made her sick as a dog.

Olive Garden we ate at a couple of times. It was "OK", but I could probably do better at home. Service was nice though.

Five Guys put us in the hospital one time. Myself, my wife and my then 3-year old. They had to put me on IV fluids.
Never went back there again, ever. If I look at a Five Guys while driving by, it makes me sick.
Most likely some nasty bastard back there making burgers who couldn't wash his hands properly.

In the last year, we've been to Checkers, BK, Sonic and McD's. Mostly for the kids, because what parent doesn't let the kids have McD's or the like once or twice a month?
The wife and I usually just have a drink. If we do eat anything there, it's either a burger by itself (no fries, etc) or in the case of McD's, I've been guilty of getting a medium milkshake.
2012-06-22 09:09:43 PM
1 votes:
I've never been to an Olive Garden. My Italian mother would spin in her grave (if she had one - maybe dust up in her urn?) if I ever went there.

But I have been to Red Lobster a few times. Last time was years ago when the whole family went for the "All you can eat Crab misguided promotion that got the VP fired" special. I think our table of four ate 25lbs of crab, probably more, and the damn place was PACKED. All you could hear from every table including ours was cracking and mmmmmm. Never saw the need to go back again when they said they'd never do that promotion again.

/make my own version of their cheddar garlic biscuits
2012-06-22 09:04:33 PM
1 votes:

KOOLmike: Red Lobster and Olive Garden are in the same category as Applebee's, Chili's, On the Border, Chi-Chi's (remember those?), etc. Piss poor representations of their respective cuisines. Joe's Crab Shack sucks, too.


Say what you will, but Chi-Chi's chimichanga remains one of my favorite dishes, and I've never found anyone that does it remotely the same as they did. Nobody gets the sauce or the consistency of the cheese right.

No, it ain't "real" Mexican food, but I've had real Mexican food and it's severely overrated. The Americanized version adds some flavor.

Anyway, I'm sad that Chi-Chi's is gone. There are none left in Michigan that I know of, and I assume the chain is long-since dead.
2012-06-22 09:03:15 PM
1 votes:

Omahawg: KOOLmike: Omahawg: better dressing than olive garden. make it at home any time you please

Short Stop Italian salad dressing:

1 Cup Sugar
2 T Salt
2/3 Cup Water
1 1/2 Cup Cider Vinegar
1 T Parsley
2 Cloves Garlic (minced)
Capers (I use a couple of Tablespoons)
Mix the above and let sit at least 1/2 hour.

Then add:

1 Cup oil
Stir and refrigerate. If oil gets thick let set out 1/2 hour before using.

Interesting, but what the hell's Capers?

sarcasm or a real question?


No, I'm not much of a cook if it doesn't involve a smoke pit, and had never heard of them. I Googled, then C&P'ed your recipe and texted it to the wife. She's intrigued, thanks for posting.
2012-06-22 08:49:02 PM
1 votes:
In my area, both RL and OG are perfectly serviceable, but I can happen to know where I can find seafood and Italian for half of what I'd pay at those two with better-tasting grub. Maybe what their company is finding out is that with the financial strain on the average American household budget during this economic doldrum, there are competing restaurants in their markets that are a better value for the buck.
2012-06-22 08:46:47 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: styckx: Lsherm: I'm as food snobby as anyone else but if you want crab legs - there's no reason NOT to go to Red Lobster. All of the crab legs in the US are precooked anyway, and they can reheat them as well as anyone.

I was just at Red Lobster last week and they had 1.5 pounds of King crab legs for $28. If they're offering that across the country, then Red Lobster is alright by me.

It's been years since I've been to an Olive Garden, but I wouldn't expect great cuisine there, either. However, if something floats your boat and they offer it cheap, I'm not going to judge you if you go.

lolwut?

Don't watch The Deadliest Catch? Almost all of the crab meat that gets shipped elsewhere is cooked and flash frozen right after it's caught. Something about the inability to keep it fresh for very long if it's dead and raw.

So if you're on the east coast like I am and you're eating crab legs - they were caught, cooked, and frozen long before they ever got to the restaurant. Then they're steamed, but that just reheats them.


Interesting..
2012-06-22 08:43:35 PM
1 votes:

styckx: Lsherm: I'm as food snobby as anyone else but if you want crab legs - there's no reason NOT to go to Red Lobster. All of the crab legs in the US are precooked anyway, and they can reheat them as well as anyone.

I was just at Red Lobster last week and they had 1.5 pounds of King crab legs for $28. If they're offering that across the country, then Red Lobster is alright by me.

It's been years since I've been to an Olive Garden, but I wouldn't expect great cuisine there, either. However, if something floats your boat and they offer it cheap, I'm not going to judge you if you go.

lolwut?


Don't watch The Deadliest Catch? Almost all of the crab meat that gets shipped elsewhere is cooked and flash frozen right after it's caught. Something about the inability to keep it fresh for very long if it's dead and raw.

So if you're on the east coast like I am and you're eating crab legs - they were caught, cooked, and frozen long before they ever got to the restaurant. Then they're steamed, but that just reheats them.
2012-06-22 08:35:51 PM
1 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: highwayrun: I should be in the kitchen: I still tease my mom about the first time she and dad came to visit me in Vegas, nearly ten years ago now. They had offered to take my then-husband and I out to dinner and she suggested Olive Garden.

Who goes to Vegas to eat at the freakin' Olive Garden?

I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere, the little old man strolling around with his accordion and the all-you-can-drink house wine kick Olive Garden's ass any day.

I know, right? All kinds of choices to love in Vegas. You could be eating at the King's Buffet at the Excalibur or the Starchstravaganza at the Imperial Palace or Rewarmed Taco Night at the El Cortez.

I wouldn't know, I don't eat at buffets.

Funny thing about this city, there are nearly 2 million people in the metro area and we don't live on the Strip. It's not like there would be, you know, food options that cater to locals and tourists beyond the starch-bloated Midwestern Land Whales.

Think Imma hit the little family-owned Greek place by my house for dinner.


I did eat at buffets when I lived there. While some (the Rio, Paris) are better than others (the Orleans, Imperial Palace) they all tend to mediocre, which isn't surprising when you consider to whom they're marketing, namely gullible tourists.

I do have to say, though, Mr. Or Ms. Kitchen, that the best sushi I've ever had, hands down, was on Spring Mountain about a mile off the Strip.
2012-06-22 08:33:31 PM
1 votes:

jshine: lots of tasty things have come from ethnic food being adapted to local tastes


"Mexican" food served in Northern New Mexico is a great case in point.

/ NM green chile FTW!
2012-06-22 08:27:43 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: I'm as food snobby as anyone else but if you want crab legs - there's no reason NOT to go to Red Lobster. All of the crab legs in the US are precooked anyway, and they can reheat them as well as anyone.

I was just at Red Lobster last week and they had 1.5 pounds of King crab legs for $28. If they're offering that across the country, then Red Lobster is alright by me.

It's been years since I've been to an Olive Garden, but I wouldn't expect great cuisine there, either. However, if something floats your boat and they offer it cheap, I'm not going to judge you if you go.


lolwut?
2012-06-22 08:16:18 PM
1 votes:

AbortionsForAll: ongbok: LtDarkstar: What's funny is watching all of the ghetto black people who go to Red Lobster in their "finest" fake furs and crap because to them that's a "very upscale restaurant" LOL! I wonder how many times Red Lobster has been asked if they take food stamps :P

It's even funnier watching the trailer trash white folks like you that go there dressed in your best CAT hat and flannel laughing at them when everybody already knows the real joke is that Red Lobster is the closest that you will ever get to an upscale restaurant.

Just so you know, your reply was vastly inferior to the statement which you were answering (on multiple levels - humor, accuracy, etc.).


Perhaps, but your unsolicited interjection is vastly inferior to either post.
2012-06-22 08:15:24 PM
1 votes:

MrEricSir: It's 2012... and you still haven't heard of Yelp? Really?


Yelp is pretty useless IMHO. It's like depending on You tube comments for suggestions.
2012-06-22 08:15:14 PM
1 votes:
better dressing than olive garden. make it at home any time you please

Short Stop Italian salad dressing:

1 Cup Sugar
2 T Salt
2/3 Cup Water
1 1/2 Cup Cider Vinegar
1 T Parsley
2 Cloves Garlic (minced)
Capers (I use a couple of Tablespoons)
Mix the above and let sit at least 1/2 hour.

Then add:

1 Cup oil
Stir and refrigerate. If oil gets thick let set out 1/2 hour before using.
2012-06-22 08:13:20 PM
1 votes:

netcentric: It's a Ramen Noodle every night kind of US these days.


This. People can't afford to dine in a restaurant anymore. The wiped out middle class don't even have it delivered never mind going out. We pick it up now.
2012-06-22 08:10:25 PM
1 votes:

ciberido: KOOLmike: Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB.

Because On The Border's Gringo-Mex is so different from authentic Mexican that it's essentially an entirely different cuisine altogether. It's sorta like comparing French and Italian cuisine and arguing about which is more authentically Italian. Of course Italian food is more Italian than French food, but that doesn't make French food BAD. I happen to like both.


Hell, I'll go along with that. OTB is certainly its own cuisine, but I just didn't care for it. Been 10 years, though, so maybe my new non-smoker taste buds will approve if I ever give in to the wife and eat there.
2012-06-22 08:10:12 PM
1 votes:

optikeye: The 'try local places' is a myth when you randomly pick one while traveling as 95precent of them really suck.


If only we could somehow connect our computers, phones, tablets etc. together in a way that they could communicate with each other. Then people could share reviews of all of the local restaurants so that we could make an educated decision. Oh well, let's just go to the Olive Garden.
2012-06-22 08:09:46 PM
1 votes:
I briefly worked at Red Lobster. It was the most filthy, vile, disgusting kitchen I've ever seen. They gave customers dirty silverware, servers made salads with bare, unwashed hands, and everyone picked food off of customer's plates before it went out to them. Every surface from counter to floor was never cleaned properly and was sticky and slimy. The cooks arms and hands were covered in burns and scars. The dishes were in no way clean.

The smell is something I'll never forget. The dish tank made me want to vomit. I had to quit after 2 weeks.

/ 15 year veteran of restaurant work. Even now I work in one on the weekends. I've never seen another kitchen even remotely that bad.
2012-06-22 08:06:39 PM
1 votes:

Eshman: DocFarker: How do a bunch of honkie crakers turn an article about Red Lobster and Olive Garden loosing business in piss poor economic times into a race issue?

Well you see, they fancy themselves "not racist" while at the same time demonstrating that by their very though processes they are, in fact, racist.


Note: "I'm not racist, but" is not a valid legal disclaimer.
2012-06-22 08:04:40 PM
1 votes:

KOOLmike: Red Lobster and Olive Garden are in the same category as Applebee's, Chili's, On the Border, Chi-Chi's (remember those?), etc. Piss poor representations of their respective cuisines. Joe's Crab Shack sucks, too.
When you know where all the independent restaurants or hole-in-the-wall joints are in town, the chains just don't cut it.
Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB. Same goes for Italian-- why spend a fortune eating at Carrabba's when V's or Garozzo's has much better food? It might sound snobby, and that's okay, but there's no way anyone can say with a straight face that the food is better at those chain restaurants.


Buy the pre-cooked lasagna at Sam's Club and eat it for a week. After that you can recognize it at all your local independent restaurants.
2012-06-22 08:03:30 PM
1 votes:

Jument: Meh, I like PF Changs.


My wife & I eat at PF Chang's. She was born in China, lived there until she was 6, and grew up eating home-cooked Chinese food, but she still enjoys PF on occasion.

PF Chang's is distinctly different than the kind of home-cooked Chinese food that her parents make -- not "authentic" -- but "authentic" and "good" are totally independent concepts. Food can be inauthentic and good, or authentic and bad.

/ lots of tasty things have come from ethnic food being adapted to local tastes
2012-06-22 08:03:25 PM
1 votes:

Ed Finnerty: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Called my dad on father's day. He said he'd gone to Red Lobster for dinner only to find it "full of every black and mexican" in the area.

I LOL'd at his racism.

Se gusta skrimps.


And welcome to the "favorites."
2012-06-22 08:03:02 PM
1 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: I still tease my mom about the first time she and dad came to visit me in Vegas, nearly ten years ago now. They had offered to take my then-husband and I out to dinner and she suggested Olive Garden.

Who goes to Vegas to eat at the freakin' Olive Garden?

I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere, the little old man strolling around with his accordion and the all-you-can-drink house wine kick Olive Garden's ass any day.


I know, right? All kinds of choices to love in Vegas. You could be eating at the King's Buffet at the Excalibur or the Starchstravaganza at the Imperial Palace or Rewarmed Taco Night at the El Cortez.
2012-06-22 08:02:13 PM
1 votes:

lilplatinum: No excuse for eating at either of those places after high school... If you eat there you are bad and you should feel bad.. If you live somewhere where those are your choices, you need to move.


Better yet, go down to the Olive Garden or Red Lobster after they close and burn them to the ground. Fire is a cleanser.
2012-06-22 08:00:37 PM
1 votes:
Do they make a book called "white folk lingo for dumbies"? I assume they do so do any of you know where I can get a copy?
2012-06-22 07:57:51 PM
1 votes:
It's a Ramen Noodle every night kind of US these days.
2012-06-22 07:55:48 PM
1 votes:

vicejay: Any Farkers ever heading to New Orleans need to check this site out for the best local eats: http://www.nomenu.com


Oceana Grill, just off Bourbon Street. PoBoys to die for, and burgers the size of the freakin' plate! Followed by begnies (sp) at Cafe Du Monde in the French Market.
2012-06-22 07:55:23 PM
1 votes:
The stupidity of the American Consumer Drone has not changed, they just have less money now.
2012-06-22 07:54:22 PM
1 votes:

PapaChester: They recently opened an Olive Garden and Red Lobster directly next to each other in our redone shopping mall. The old people here love it. No one seems to know that they are owned by the same company.

Then again, no one seems to know the Trader Joe's is German.


They have to live closer to the ones in the 'nard why drive up here? And it just reminds me, I miss the old Bauducco's.... Hurry up and re-open you bastards! Even the new owners were better than the Sysco frozen slop house that is the og.
2012-06-22 07:52:17 PM
1 votes:
All I'm saying is that corporatism has created cheaper food all around, and since I'm poor, when I used to go "out" the food was better. It's only gotten worse since I could afford eating out. shiat, corporations now "vote" in your cheap-ass elections, biatches. You think they'll spend more on your "food" now?

;)
2012-06-22 07:49:16 PM
1 votes:
Better than Long John's?

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

He'll be the judge of that.

/Enjoy your evening.
2012-06-22 07:49:03 PM
1 votes:

Shenanigans!: I see people make this assertion, and yet no microwave oven I've ever used has actually worked like this. I have yet to encounter one that cooks from the inside out. If you have a make and model you can recommend, that'd be awesome. I'd love to give it a spin.


This is like the one we have at work and it cooks about twice as fast as the Magic Chef I have at home. Really amazing actually. I tend to warm something up in little bits. Like start with 99 seconds, then 66 sec, see how it looks, do another 44 seconds and you're done depending on the quantity you're heating.
Link
2012-06-22 07:47:47 PM
1 votes:
Red Lobster is probably the biggest scam amongst the restaurant chains. $40 for a place with $3 worth of old sea food.
2012-06-22 07:45:49 PM
1 votes:

styckx: berylman: styckx: My favorite ghetto place (and by ghetto I mean stereotyping the place by the commericials) is Golden Corral. I see their commercials all the time and lol @ the fattie magnet Chocolate Wonderfall and now they're even giving away Cotton Candy.. That place is the poster child for obesity in America.

Oh yeah I saw that this morning and was thinking alike laughing. I would really like to sit in on their marketing team meetings. It's like their subtly mocking their clientele. Golden Corral, we know you have no dignity left so come on down.

I really want to go there and stick my wang in the chocolate wonderfall and cause a scene for lulz but I would probably end up tased to death.

Dude, people dip steak and meatloaf in that fountain and not for jokes either. Link


shiat, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes.
2012-06-22 07:45:32 PM
1 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: I still tease my mom about the first time she and dad came to visit me in Vegas, nearly ten years ago now. They had offered to take my then-husband and I out to dinner and she suggested Olive Garden.

Who goes to Vegas to eat at the freakin' Olive Garden?

I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere, the little old man strolling around with his accordion and the all-you-can-drink house wine kick Olive Garden's ass any day.


Almost as bad as people who go to New York, home of the best Italian food outside of Italy, and eat at farking Olive Garden. I'm pretty sure those people actually hate food.

/but never-ending pasta!!!11!!
2012-06-22 07:45:27 PM
1 votes:

AbortionsForAll: ongbok: LtDarkstar: What's funny is watching all of the ghetto black people who go to Red Lobster in their "finest" fake furs and crap because to them that's a "very upscale restaurant" LOL! I wonder how many times Red Lobster has been asked if they take food stamps :P

It's even funnier watching the trailer trash white folks like you that go there dressed in your best CAT hat and flannel laughing at them when everybody already knows the real joke is that Red Lobster is the closest that you will ever get to an upscale restaurant.

Just so you know, your reply was vastly inferior to the statement which you were answering (on multiple levels - humor, accuracy, etc.).


No it is pretty accurate. After all you seem to know a lot about what type of people frequent Red Lobster. The only way for you to have that type of knowledge on the subject is if you frequent the place quite often yourself, and that would tend to prove the point that Red Lobster is the closest that you will ever get to upscale dinning. Me on the other hand, I have no idea what kind of people frequent either Red Lobster or the Olive Garden because I have never been to a Red Lobster and only been to Olive Garden twice in mt life. Furthermore since I was a child I was taught that if you were going to eat out, you really should look for upscale places to eat.
2012-06-22 07:45:04 PM
1 votes:

Any Pie Left: I don't get the Red Lobster hate: took the mrs. there last month on a date, the wood-fire-grilled salmon was teh sex. Really, very good, and yet still reasonably priced.


I don't know about anybody else in this thread, but I certainly don't hate Olive Garden or Red Lobster. I eat at both places occasionally, generally when someone else suggests it. It's just that there is better seafood and better Italian available, at least where I live.

Earlier in the thread someone suggested using urbanspoon or google local to find better. Personally, I read the food page of an old-fashioned paper newspaper. You could try just asking friends and co-workers for suggestions. But whatever your methods, I advise you to shop around and see if there's anything nearby you might like better.

But hey, if you enjoy Red Lobster and you're happy, more power to you.
2012-06-22 07:36:30 PM
1 votes:
I still tease my mom about the first time she and dad came to visit me in Vegas, nearly ten years ago now. They had offered to take my then-husband and I out to dinner and she suggested Olive Garden.

Who goes to Vegas to eat at the freakin' Olive Garden?

I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere, the little old man strolling around with his accordion and the all-you-can-drink house wine kick Olive Garden's ass any day.
2012-06-22 07:36:12 PM
1 votes:

ongbok: LtDarkstar: What's funny is watching all of the ghetto black people who go to Red Lobster in their "finest" fake furs and crap because to them that's a "very upscale restaurant" LOL! I wonder how many times Red Lobster has been asked if they take food stamps :P

It's even funnier watching the trailer trash white folks like you that go there dressed in your best CAT hat and flannel laughing at them when everybody already knows the real joke is that Red Lobster is the closest that you will ever get to an upscale restaurant.


Just so you know, your reply was vastly inferior to the statement which you were answering (on multiple levels - humor, accuracy, etc.).
2012-06-22 07:36:10 PM
1 votes:
I have to say the biggest gap between what the commercial shows and what you get on your plate has to be Red Lobster.
2012-06-22 07:33:45 PM
1 votes:
My sister-in-law and her husband always want us to go meet them at either Red Lobster, Olive Garden, the Golden Corral or some other shiat hole for dinner on a regular basis. I stopped going out with them to eat in the late 80s when that side of the wife's family constantly met at the "Old Country Buffet". I put my foot down and said no more will I go to any of those places. It caused a rift in the force for a few years. I still won't go.
2012-06-22 07:32:22 PM
1 votes:

falcon176: all you can eat shrimp at red lobster or get the fark out


I will happily get the fark out.

/skrimp snob
2012-06-22 07:32:18 PM
1 votes:

Ed Finnerty: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Called my dad on father's day. He said he'd gone to Red Lobster for dinner only to find it "full of every black and mexican" in the area.

I LOL'd at his racism.

Se gusta skrimps.


www.fohguild.org

/oblig
2012-06-22 07:31:26 PM
1 votes:

meat0918: Could it be that Americans got pissy at their CEO and didn't want to go to a place that doesn't want to give sick employees time off or give them lunch breaks?


You've obviously never worked in food services. You make a f*cking killing on tips but you don't get a break for 8 hours and you make $2.15/hr.
2012-06-22 07:31:25 PM
1 votes:

12349876: saintstryfe: See, to me, it's the exact OPPOSITE of Snobby. Snobby is paying more for something less - if you can get good food for less money, and you do that, you're not being a foodie, or pretentious - you're being sane.

To me, snobby is looking down judgmentally on other people's tastes, and there's plenty of that in this thread. By your definition, a hipster who thinks some independent band is better than the mainstream and looks down on the "conformists" who like the mainstream bands who "sold out" can't be a snob because it's cheaper to get a ticket to an independent band than to a mainstream.


Can't look down on something that's not there. In all seriousness though, you seem like the kind of person that takes exception to people choosing which businesses they patronize based on the business practices of said institution; if it's good enough for you, it should be good enough for them, no?
2012-06-22 07:28:25 PM
1 votes:
Shenanigans!:
I see people make this assertion, and yet no microwave oven I've ever used has actually worked like this. I have yet to encounter one that cooks from the inside out. If you have a make and model you can recommend, that'd be awesome. I'd love to give it a spin.


I think this is a common misconception because the microwaves are tuned to be absorbed primarily by water molecules and heating something like a cup of water the water will end up hotter than the cup making it seem to be cooking from the inside when in fact the waves are coming from the outside and are just passing through. You prolly knew that already but just in case.
2012-06-22 07:28:21 PM
1 votes:

12349876: saintstryfe: See, to me, it's the exact OPPOSITE of Snobby. Snobby is paying more for something less - if you can get good food for less money, and you do that, you're not being a foodie, or pretentious - you're being sane.

To me, snobby is looking down judgmentally on other people's tastes, and there's plenty of that in this thread. By your definition, a hipster who thinks some independent band is better than the mainstream and looks down on the "conformists" who like the mainstream bands who "sold out" can't be a snob because it's cheaper to get a ticket to an independent band than to a mainstream.


Dude, if you bump ya some Bieber on your way to Olive Garden, that's your deal and I certainly don't think any less of you for it. You just can't bump Bieber in my car, nor will I be joining you at Olive Garden. There are no aspersions being cast here either way.
2012-06-22 07:27:44 PM
1 votes:
Go ahead and laugh about it - I do. But when I was growing up in rural Alabama Red Lobster was where you took your girlfriend if you were really trying to impress her and had saved up your money to be able to afford it.
2012-06-22 07:26:12 PM
1 votes:
I am sicilian, french, and Colombian, who is from South Louisiana.

REd lobster is farking awful.

Olive Garden does have a good salad.

I live in Ocala Florida, and we have an all you can eat chinese buffet with crawfish, that are hideous, but every black person in town eats about ten plates....
2012-06-22 07:25:18 PM
1 votes:

optikeye: I'll go to Olive Garden when on road trips, and get their soup and salad combo.
The 'try local places' is a myth when you randomly pick one while traveling as 95precent of them really suck. But then again 100 percent of Applebees really suck.


Think I found your problem...

/aware that much of small-town America is a culinary wasteland
//but not all of it
///slash
2012-06-22 07:25:17 PM
1 votes:
I am so glad to live in a city with real food and great local restaurants. If your gonna be a snob about something, what you tickle your taste buds with and put in your body is a great thing to be a snob about. Goes for beer and booze too.
2012-06-22 07:23:04 PM
1 votes:
My favorite ghetto place (and by ghetto I mean stereotyping the place by the commericials) is Golden Corral. I see their commercials all the time and lol @ the fattie magnet Chocolate Wonderfall and now they're even giving away Cotton Candy.. That place is the poster child for obesity in America.
2012-06-22 07:18:44 PM
1 votes:
Yesterday the wife and I went to Olive Garden and we were making jokes at them the whole time. Like they ran out Gnocci Soup and we were offered alternatives, and my wife asked how long it would take to defrost a new batch. Anyway, good times. I made this graphic earlier and it seemed fitting to share it. I am no photoshop pro. Just having some fun. It's what I picture Olive Garden's kitchen to look like.

sites.google.com
2012-06-22 07:13:05 PM
1 votes:

KOOLmike: ROBOTwHUM4NHAIR: KOOLmike: Red Lobster and Olive Garden are in the same category as Applebee's, Chili's, On the Border, Chi-Chi's (remember those?), etc. Piss poor representations of their respective cuisines. Joe's Crab Shack sucks, too.
When you know where all the independent restaurants or hole-in-the-wall joints are in town, the chains just don't cut it.
Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB. Same goes for Italian-- why spend a fortune eating at Carrabba's when V's or Garozzo's has much better food? It might sound snobby, and that's okay, but there's no way anyone can say with a straight face that the food is better at those chain restaurants.

Im not even sure if it was a national chain, but if it was add Cooker's to that list.

Hmm, never heard of Cooker's. What type of food did they claim to serve?


It was one of those applebee/ tgi friday like places. Dont remember too much about them they closed down when i was like 12
2012-06-22 07:11:55 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: meat0918

Could it be that Americans
...don't think the economy is doing as great as this idiot does.
[cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356]


Shove it, trollboy... he said the private sector was doing fine, and it is... unemployment is way inflated by the number of government workers he is cutting... but if you want to go back to hiring more government employees and big government waste, Romney has already promised he'll add at least a hundred thousand more... and your taxes will go down... and the deficit will go down... and hell, he'd probably pull a Newt and promise a moon base, but that just seems too specific.
2012-06-22 07:11:31 PM
1 votes:
http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/Red-Lobster-Cheddar-Bay-Biscuits-Recip e.html - save yourself a 15 dollars an entree, go buy some good trout, fry or pan sear it, then make these
2012-06-22 07:09:55 PM
1 votes:

optikeye: I'll go to Olive Garden when on road trips, and get their soup and salad combo.
The 'try local places' is a myth when you randomly pick one while traveling as 95precent of them really suck.


Prior to things like Yelp this might have been a problem. While not perfect its certainly a better litmus test than blind guessing and unlike a chain restaraunt there is a chance you will come away without a wallet filled on nausea and a step closer to type 2 diabetes.
2012-06-22 07:08:24 PM
1 votes:

KOOLmike: Red Lobster and Olive Garden are in the same category as Applebee's, Chili's, On the Border, Chi-Chi's (remember those?), etc. Piss poor representations of their respective cuisines. Joe's Crab Shack sucks, too.
When you know where all the independent restaurants or hole-in-the-wall joints are in town, the chains just don't cut it.
Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB. Same goes for Italian-- why spend a fortune eating at Carrabba's when V's or Garozzo's has much better food? It might sound snobby, and that's okay, but there's no way anyone can say with a straight face that the food is better at those chain restaurants.


See, to me, it's the exact OPPOSITE of Snobby. Snobby is paying more for something less - if you can get good food for less money, and you do that, you're not being a foodie, or pretentious - you're being sane.

We have a fantastic Italian place called Enzo's - use to be the lunch place for all the IBM bigwigs when IBM was big in this area. Great pizza, fantastic pasta, lots of cheap, good food, real Italian deserts, nice people. Yet because it's not on the "main drag" and Olive Garden is, guess which one you can't get a table at?

/it's just nicer for me, they own the building, they'll never close
2012-06-22 07:07:17 PM
1 votes:
I'll go to Olive Garden when on road trips, and get their soup and salad combo.
The 'try local places' is a myth when you randomly pick one while traveling as 95precent of them really suck. But then again 100 percent of Applebees really suck.
2012-06-22 07:03:27 PM
1 votes:
My father once went to a trade show where the organizers were replaced the next year for several reasons.

The next year's announcement started off "First of all this year we will be going to a city where 'Red Lobster' is not the best establishment in town."
2012-06-22 06:59:18 PM
1 votes:

dericwater: PF Chang's is the worst mass-market chinese food I've ever been in. It's vile. The food is way over salted and even if they claim no MSG, I leave there with that MSG shake and the tightening of the throat.

Just vile and way too expensive for chinese.


Meh, I like PF Changs. I agree on overpriced though. I end up going maybe once every 2 years because the wait is ridiculous and I don't like the prices. A lot of the dishes are very sweet and probably horribly bastardized, but I'm not to ashamed to admit that kind of food turns me on.
2012-06-22 06:57:56 PM
1 votes:
Yea, grew up in Boston and married an Italian... Never been to either place, and don't feel the need to...
2012-06-22 06:55:21 PM
1 votes:
meat0918

Could it be that Americans

...don't think the economy is doing as great as this idiot does.
cdn.breitbart.com
2012-06-22 06:53:46 PM
1 votes:
Ray Liotta described what Olive Garden makes in Goodfellas

"I asked for spaghetti with marinara and I got egg noodles and ketchup"
2012-06-22 06:53:07 PM
1 votes:
Olive Garden sucks. I hate going there. I'd rather eat at Jack in the Box or McDonalds.
2012-06-22 06:52:49 PM
1 votes:
Last time I went to Red Lobster our waiter smelled like he'd just gotten done chain smoking for an hour back by the dumpsters and wouldn't stop this annoying humming/singing thing he was doing while we were trying to place our order. He was an African American gentleman, and wouldn't stop carrying on with the African American customers in his area. Had very little time for us. When my scallop appetizer thing came, it tasted like his hands probably smelled. Couldn't finish my meal.

Won't be a next time, but if there is I'm just going to continually ask for more cheesy biscuits and water.
2012-06-22 06:52:31 PM
1 votes:
Any Farkers ever heading to New Orleans need to check this site out for the best local eats: http://www.nomenu.com
2012-06-22 06:51:14 PM
1 votes:

Abner Doon: I dunno if Red Lobster changed, or my tastes did, but that shiat is terrible. So damn salty that you can't even taste what you're eating, it's disgusting.


My BP goes up 20 points just driving past one!

Part of the appeal of RL must be the mystery dishes. Reading their menu is like being on an expedition with Darwin. Do they just make up this shiat? I guess "immature, tasteless crustaceon" is not as sexy as "Zimbabwe Lobster"
2012-06-22 06:49:30 PM
1 votes:

Evenbiggerknickers: must include this

NSFW language

Link


fark that, easy. The girl. Now, if we're talking Cheddar Bay Biscuits (which I can only assume are made in Cheddar Bay, ME) then the choice becomes more difficult.
2012-06-22 06:49:02 PM
1 votes:

Jgok: I'll never understand it... Someone asks where to get good Italian food in town, I start listing off a dozen good locally-owned places, and they interrupt me to ask if there's an Olive Garden in town.

/I thought you wanted ITALIAN food.


Same thing for me. Went over to some yokel backlot town. Asked where's a nice restaurant. "You mean like a Denny's?" I replied, "No, something better than that." "Well, there's Red Lobster, but I can't recall where it is..."
2012-06-22 06:45:12 PM
1 votes:
Lobster Garden? Best of both worlds?
2012-06-22 06:44:26 PM
1 votes:
A) I love this headline.

B) The last time I was in a Red Lobster was 9/11 and I hold them directly responsible.
2012-06-22 06:44:08 PM
1 votes:
Everything I've had at Red Lobster has been delicious.

Respect my opinion!
2012-06-22 06:43:39 PM
1 votes:

meat0918: Could it be that Americans got pissy at their CEO and didn't want to go to a place that doesn't want to give sick employees time off or give them lunch breaks?

Regulatory mandates flowing from federal health care reform may be the most visible, but the list also includes measures such as new mandatory paid leave provisions that require us to change the way we accommodate employees who need to take time off when they are ill and ever more unrealistic requirements regarding employee meal and rest breaks that, in California for example, force our employees to take breaks in the middle of serving lunch or dinner


yeah...that's it I'm sure moron. Most have never read or heard this crap....or even cared.
2012-06-22 06:40:02 PM
1 votes:
Once my in-laws were visiting some town and the hotel concierge asked them if they needed dinner recommendations. They said they wanted Italian so he called a cab to take them to Romanos, purportedly the town's best. Turned out to be Romano's Macaroni Grill
2012-06-22 06:39:39 PM
1 votes:
They recently opened an Olive Garden and Red Lobster directly next to each other in our redone shopping mall. The old people here love it. No one seems to know that they are owned by the same company.

Then again, no one seems to know the Trader Joe's is German.
2012-06-22 06:34:59 PM
1 votes:
Been to OG twice. Dragged there once by an ex, met a blind date the 2nd time. Never again. RL? Not so bad. Always enjoyed it. Wish they were still here (Bangor ME)
2012-06-22 06:31:02 PM
1 votes:

9beers: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Called my dad on father's day. He said he'd gone to Red Lobster for dinner only to find it "full of every black and mexican" in the area.

I LOL'd at his racism.

That's not racism, it's a fact. The last time I was in a Red Lobster, it was about 75% black and that's in an area where blacks make up 10% of the population at most. Brothers will drive their asses off for some bad seafood.


It depends on how it was said. My guess is his dad said it in the same manner my dad would say it and it very much was racist.
2012-06-22 06:30:44 PM
1 votes:

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Called my dad on father's day. He said he'd gone to Red Lobster for dinner only to find it "full of every black and mexican" in the area.

I LOL'd at his racism.


Se gusta skrimps.
2012-06-22 06:09:09 PM
1 votes:

meat0918: Could it be that Americans got pissy at their CEO and didn't want to go to a place that doesn't want to give sick employees time off or give them lunch breaks?



I would like to imagine that Americans suddenly got enlightened, but I don't see it.

Most retail companies do the same type of crap. Sure, maybe on paper they give employees breaks and sick time, but in practice it doesn't happen.
 
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