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(BusinessWeek)   Olive Garden and Red Lobster struggle to revive sales, as American appetite for authentic Italian foods and high-class seafood cuisine dwindles   (businessweek.com ) divider line
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2012-06-23 12:12:40 AM  

misanthropic1: Benjimin_Dover: intelligent comment below: badgerb: Benjimin_Dover: I'm not sure why ANY person goes out to a restaurant to get "Italian." Seriously? It's a sauce on some shape of pasta. You can do the same shiat at your place for a buck or so worth of stuff.

This.

Italian food is overrated.


Go to Italy before you say that.

Or even Chicago, NYC, LA

No matter where you go, what you get in an Italian place is not much different than what can be bought at a grocery store. just about any one of them, you can go into the frozen food section and find all kinds of bags of "something-alfredo" or "something-parmesiano" or whatever nonsense they do. It might not be the best but the crap in any restaurant sure isn't going to be seven times better to coinside with the price. I love steak. I know quite a few joints that do an awesome job. I complain the same about them. I have to go out to eat because my gf makes me. I can do almost as good for far far far far far less cost at home. So when it comes to restaurants and having to take it in the ass costwise, I am going to to someplace where it takes a little more effort to make my meal than pouring whatever sauce on some pasta or eggplant or chicken. Because in the end, that is the majority of Italian.

Well, really the old world ethos of the cuisine is preserving the purity of quality ingredients (as I've been told, read, and experienced). So, while the preparations are often simple, they walk a fine line and depend on top shelf ingredients... the last part is the hinge; the quality of raw ingredients in Europe (in my experience and that of others' I've talked to) is so much better than the Monsanto mass-ag and factory farm meats we get here (for the most part) that it gets lost in translation. I'd take a food-oriented tour of the country before writing the whole epicurean culture off wholesale. Even then, a good sauce made with care from scratch is still a thing of beauty, even from unremarkable ingredients; do you mostly cook from cans or something?


I should also clarify. I don't dislike Italian food. I rather enjoy it even. The point I am making is it is not worth going to a restaurant for. Maybe it it is better over on the mother boot but here? Not even close.

Similar to Indian food. Does it taste bad? No. Why do I not want to go an Indian place when my friends in jersey want to go there? Because I want EAT my food not drink it. The three places I have been were identical. I went to three because I didn't think I was judging it fairly by going to only one. Third strike and it is out. Every one of them was identical. Every dish in there was a slurry type of thing except for one. Some kind of chicken. I guess when your region of the world is flooded by typhoons for half the year, the cuisine is going to evolve into sloppy wet dishes.
 
2012-06-23 12:13:13 AM  

Omahawg: misanthropic1: urban.derelict: Omahawg: Interesting, but what the hell's Capers?

sarcasm or a real question?

Yeah. I don't understand it either. Are they pickled peas or something? What's with the jar of formaldehyde? Who the f*ck would eat that?

Respectively: flower buds, it's pickling liquid, and me. It's quintessential to much Mediterranean food, high-end tarter sauces/seafood salads, and most anything with smoked salmon (especially on an everything bagel with cream cheese and red onion). If you're more comfortable with double cheeseburgers though, more power to ya, I guess.

a place 'round here used to serve a holsteiner schnitzel: basic schniztel with cream cheese, lox, and capers. best thing ever. nom nom nom


So they more or less just said "fark the bagel"... I could get behind that.

/giggety-giggety
 
2012-06-23 12:14:37 AM  

ZombiesYall: Hey, is this the thread where we brag about being too high-class to eat at chain restaurants?


Eat? I survive off of sniffed farts and boiled ant sweat
 
2012-06-23 12:17:11 AM  
My hubby and I got a 25 dollar gift card to Olive Garden from my mom-in-law. Thinking that would cover our meal we ate, I had a glass of wine, he had a soda, no dessert we had to pay 30 bucks out of pocket! I can go to REAL Italian restaraunts for less. Why would ANYONE go there?
 
2012-06-23 12:17:40 AM  

ZeroCorpse: KOOLmike: Red Lobster and Olive Garden are in the same category as Applebee's, Chili's, On the Border, Chi-Chi's (remember those?), etc. Piss poor representations of their respective cuisines. Joe's Crab Shack sucks, too.

Say what you will, but Chi-Chi's chimichanga remains one of my favorite dishes, and I've never found anyone that does it remotely the same as they did. Nobody gets the sauce or the consistency of the cheese right.

No, it ain't "real" Mexican food, but I've had real Mexican food and it's severely overrated. The Americanized version adds some flavor.

Anyway, I'm sad that Chi-Chi's is gone. There are none left in Michigan that I know of, and I assume the chain is long-since dead.


It was hard for them to recover after that Hepatitis A incident in PA 10 years ago.
 
2012-06-23 12:25:18 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: I should also clarify. I don't dislike Italian food. I rather enjoy it even. The point I am making is it is not worth going to a restaurant for. Maybe it it is better over on the mother boot but here? Not even close.

Similar to Indian food. Does it taste bad? No. Why do I not want to go an Indian place when my friends in jersey want to go there? Because I want EAT my food not drink it. The three places I have been were identical. I went to three because I didn't think I was judging it fairly by going to only one. Third strike and it is out. Every one of them was identical. Every dish in there was a slurry type of thing except for one. Some kind of chicken. I guess when your region of the world is flooded by typhoons for half the year, the cuisine is going to evolve into sloppy wet dishes.


I take your point; not every regional cuisine is everyone's bag. Personally, I LOVE Indian food, and having been attempting to grind my own curries from scratch without some old-world grandmother's guidance, have immense respect for the complexity and intricacy of the art. But you're right; the bulk of the food is going to be some manner of stew over rice, kind of like Ethiopian; it's good, but only if you're down with its basic nature.

/first time I heard of Ethiopian dining I wondered "how do they recreate THAT eating experience? Lock you in a cage for a week then give you an unseasoned broiled rat?"...
//it's good if you're down with stews on yeasty flatbread or French-fusion
 
2012-06-23 12:27:07 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: ZombiesYall: Hey, is this the thread where we brag about being too high-class to eat at chain restaurants?

Eat? I survive off of sniffed farts and boiled ant sweat


Good plan: more biomass than humans, no?
 
2012-06-23 12:28:20 AM  

styckx: Oh and Applebees doesn't suck if you look at its usefulness correctly.

Usually Applebees has one of the better bar setups and some of the best drunk food available. I spent more time in my drinking days getting hammered at Applebees than the local bars..


Sorry dude, but that sounds really pathetic.


I think whats killing these chains, in part, is the rise of smartphones. Most of the times ive been to olive garden has been on the road, driving through some random town, no way to know whats good, see an OG, its like "well, at least we know itll be ok" im sure theres a good place a few blocks away, but if youre not a local how to find it pre yelp/urbanspoon days.

And with these no one has any reason to go to red lobster ever.

ecx.images-amazon.com


Make em with milk instead of water so theyre a little richer and maybe spray some pam ontop to make em authentically greasy if you really want.
 
2012-06-23 12:30:41 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: OG and RL both have decent dinner rolls/bread sticks.

The last time I ate at RL it was next to the hotel I was staying at. I got shrimp pasta alfredo (pretty hard to screw up). It was served with the cheese on the top molten and the cheese in the middle raw.


Hot on the outside and cold on the inside? I'll bet that crap was pre-made and they threw it in the microwave.
 
2012-06-23 12:38:08 AM  
I had some friends from Iowa who went to Manhattan to run the marathon. When they told me they went to the Olive Garden in Times Square for dinner the night before, I was floored. I've eaten at a good half-dozen fantastic Italian restaurants in Manhattan, all of which I randomly stumbled across. But they're small town and wanted to go to a place they recognized.

When my wife and I were in Minnesota a few years ago, we decided to eat at the Olive Garden for lunch. She ordered a lunch pizza that was good. I looked the menu up and down and couldn't find a single entree that looked good. So I ordered a soup/salad/breadstick combo, which was quite good. But I would never go there for a real "meal".

Twenty years ago, I thought it was a decent place. Now I know better.
 
2012-06-23 12:46:09 AM  
I am wondering after reading all these posts, is Fark run by David Duke?
 
2012-06-23 12:56:05 AM  

marcre3363: I had some friends from Iowa who went to Manhattan to run the marathon. When they told me they went to the Olive Garden in Times Square for dinner the night before, I was floored. I've eaten at a good half-dozen fantastic Italian restaurants in Manhattan, all of which I randomly stumbled across. But they're small town and wanted to go to a place they recognized.

When my wife and I were in Minnesota a few years ago, we decided to eat at the Olive Garden for lunch. She ordered a lunch pizza that was good. I looked the menu up and down and couldn't find a single entree that looked good. So I ordered a soup/salad/breadstick combo, which was quite good. But I would never go there for a real "meal".

Twenty years ago, I thought it was a decent place. Now I know better.


Then why didnt they stay home? Im sure they could have found a marathon somewhere in iowa instead of spending probably hundreds of dollars to go to the big scary city where they proceeded to do what they could do any night of the week back home. If that attitude makes me a snob, fine, but i just dont understand people who will fly halfway around the world and then go to farking mcdonalds.

And i dont even like to travel that much, theres so many things around just my state that ive never done, literally hundreds of restaurants in the city that i still havent eaten at yet, all without the expense or hassle of getting on a plane. Ill admit i like Red Robin, but if im down in chicago for the weekend im not even going to bother looking for one, that would never even occur to me, my thinking is going to be what CANT i get back home.
 
2012-06-23 01:10:01 AM  

ZeroCorpse: styckx: My favorite ghetto place (and by ghetto I mean stereotyping the place by the commericials) is Golden Corral. I see their commercials all the time and lol @ the fattie magnet Chocolate Wonderfall and now they're even giving away Cotton Candy.. That place is the poster child for obesity in America.

I used to work in a Sveden House restaurant. It was a smorgasbord (using the term loosely. It was really just a run-of-the-mill buffet), and every Sunday all the absolute fattest people in the tri-city area would drop in, pay their $5.00 a head (this was the 80s), and stay there ALL DAY, eating like pigs.

It was disgusting. I'm not just talking about your average fat people, here. I'm talking about the kind of people who need two chairs... The kind of people who have to wash with a rag on a stick... The kind of people who probably have car keys and missing household pets stuck within their folds of fat.

And these heifers would load up their plates with everything at once. Mashed potatoes with chocolate sauce? You bet! Swedish Meatballs covered in nacho cheese? Oh, yes! Beef gravy milkshakes? They did it. An entire plate heaped with Jell-O and corn? Yes, they did that, too. Getting their coffee in a bowl? Yes. Filling a plastic cup with chili, water, and cheese, and then drinking it? Yes, they did this, too.

Barfing on the table and shiatting on the floor in the restroom? That was them, as well. One time, I even found a plate full of chicken bones in a stall, on the floor next to the toilet... Some porker waddled in there with a pile of fried chicken and sat there crapping and eating for what must have been at least 15 minutes. Possibly more. It was a lot of chicken bones. I think it might have been the equivalent of a chicken and a half. And the bones were cracked, too. They sucked the marrow out of at least some of them. ...All while taking a dump.

The place was horrific. It was almost 30 years ago, and I still occasionally have nightmares about it. And the w ...


Sveden House at State and Center?
 
2012-06-23 01:21:22 AM  

Cyno01: marcre3363: I had some friends from Iowa who went to Manhattan to run the marathon. When they told me they went to the Olive Garden in Times Square for dinner the night before, I was floored. I've eaten at a good half-dozen fantastic Italian restaurants in Manhattan, all of which I randomly stumbled across. But they're small town and wanted to go to a place they recognized.

When my wife and I were in Minnesota a few years ago, we decided to eat at the Olive Garden for lunch. She ordered a lunch pizza that was good. I looked the menu up and down and couldn't find a single entree that looked good. So I ordered a soup/salad/breadstick combo, which was quite good. But I would never go there for a real "meal".

Twenty years ago, I thought it was a decent place. Now I know better.

Then why didnt they stay home? Im sure they could have found a marathon somewhere in iowa instead of spending probably hundreds of dollars to go to the big scary city where they proceeded to do what they could do any night of the week back home. If that attitude makes me a snob, fine, but i just dont understand people who will fly halfway around the world and then go to farking mcdonalds.

And i dont even like to travel that much, theres so many things around just my state that ive never done, literally hundreds of restaurants in the city that i still havent eaten at yet, all without the expense or hassle of getting on a plane. Ill admit i like Red Robin, but if im down in chicago for the weekend im not even going to bother looking for one, that would never even occur to me, my thinking is going to be what CANT i get back home.


hell, i'm from a small town in iowa and don't know what's wrong with those people either. we loved finding funky out of the way local places long before it was trendy. easy rule of thumb: avoid any ethnic restaurant where no obvious member of that ethnicity is dining there.
 
2012-06-23 01:25:19 AM  
For all the Red Lobster hate, being stuck in BFE, midwest and about as far from open sea as you can get, there's not much else available if you want a) dining out, and b) "seafood".
And for the life of me I don't get what all the wal-mart commentary is, as the local one is exceptionally well maintained & waited, mostly being populated by the more politely quiet small family outings. The olive garden further up the road is a complete zoo, however. The shiat on my plate there was nasty, too.
 
2012-06-23 01:28:22 AM  
I'm not a huge seafood fan, and I went to Red Lobster for just one thing - their biscuits. Problem is, they made their biscuits more healthy by removing a bunch of the butter, thus making them not as much fun. Goodbye Red Lobster.
 
2012-06-23 01:34:13 AM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: farkityfarker: MeAs much as I hear the term "authentic" Italian food, or Mexican food, or whatever else, I've still yet go get an explanation of what it actually consists of.

Authentic Mexican food involves tortillas, cheese, and refried beans, in various combinations. Oh, and hot sauce. I had some before they put on the hot sauce, it was the blandest stuff imaginable.


Rick Bayless should punch you in the nuts for saying that.
 
2012-06-23 01:37:55 AM  

RussianPooper: meat0918: Could it be that Americans got pissy at their CEO and didn't want to go to a place that doesn't want to give sick employees time off or give them lunch breaks?

Regulatory mandates flowing from federal health care reform may be the most visible, but the list also includes measures such as new mandatory paid leave provisions that require us to change the way we accommodate employees who need to take time off when they are ill and ever more unrealistic requirements regarding employee meal and rest breaks that, in California for example, force our employees to take breaks in the middle of serving lunch or dinner

Requiring restaurants to give breaks in the middle of lunch or dinner rush is asinine and only shows that the regulators are clueless, not to mention people like you who think it's a reason to boycott.


The requirement in California isn't that the breaks come in the middle of service; it's that they come after X number of hours. But it's easier for Clarence Otis to whine about the mean old regulators than is is to tell store managers to adjust the schedules of their employees appropriately.

urban.derelict: meat0918: Could it be that Americans got pissy at their CEO and didn't want to go to a place that doesn't want to give sick employees time off or give them lunch breaks?

You've obviously never worked in food services. You make a f*cking killing on tips but you don't get a break for 8 hours and you make $2.15/hr.


News flash: California has its own labor laws, and while it's no worker's paradise here, those laws (which cover roughly 10% of the American workforce) are a model for the rest of the country.
 
2012-06-23 01:40:10 AM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Rick Bayless should punch you in the nuts for saying that.


And then cook his nuts in a delicious, aromatic mole sauce!
 
2012-06-23 01:40:25 AM  

styckx: Jgok: I'll never understand it... Someone asks where to get good Italian food in town, I start listing off a dozen good locally-owned places, and they interrupt me to ask if there's an Olive Garden in town.

/I thought you wanted ITALIAN food.

EXACTLY.. And if you live within a few hours of a coastline there is NO EXCUSE to eat at Red Lobster.. Hell even in Philly you can eat seafood that is still kicking pulled out of the ocean the day before or that very morning..


And if you're really lucky, it was caught locally!

media.lehighvalleylive.com
 
2012-06-23 01:54:08 AM  

styckx: Lsherm: styckx: Lsherm: I'm as food snobby as anyone else but if you want crab legs - there's no reason NOT to go to Red Lobster. All of the crab legs in the US are precooked anyway, and they can reheat them as well as anyone.

I was just at Red Lobster last week and they had 1.5 pounds of King crab legs for $28. If they're offering that across the country, then Red Lobster is alright by me.

It's been years since I've been to an Olive Garden, but I wouldn't expect great cuisine there, either. However, if something floats your boat and they offer it cheap, I'm not going to judge you if you go.

lolwut?

Don't watch The Deadliest Catch? Almost all of the crab meat that gets shipped elsewhere is cooked and flash frozen right after it's caught. Something about the inability to keep it fresh for very long if it's dead and raw.

So if you're on the east coast like I am and you're eating crab legs - they were caught, cooked, and frozen long before they ever got to the restaurant. Then they're steamed, but that just reheats them.

Interesting..


Not interesting, just fact. The only quality difference for crab legs at a restaurant are the bulk sell at the beginning of each season. Smaller legs are cheaper, and buffets tend to buy those along with cheaper restaurants. Bigger buyers get the larger or higher quality legs.

Either buyer just has to reheat the legs. You can get crab legs at a five star restaurant and they're buying the same precooked legs everyone else is. They can present it differently, but it's the same product. There's no talent to crab legs - they were already cooked right out of the boat. So spending extra money at a restaurant is extra stupid.
 
2012-06-23 02:03:43 AM  
 
2012-06-23 02:08:47 AM  

Indubitably: Smeggy Smurf: ZombiesYall: Hey, is this the thread where we brag about being too high-class to eat at chain restaurants?

Eat? I survive off of sniffed farts and boiled ant sweat

Good plan: more biomass than humans, no?


Beats me. I starved to death years ago
 
2012-06-23 02:15:55 AM  

Ficoce:

I finally have it down. I found the secret to good lasagna is to use real ingredients and don't take short cuts. I improved my prep speed and can knock it out in 45 minutes.

I don't like lasagna very much anymore.


Clearly, you put too much effort into it and ruined the whole thing. My lasagne might not be 'perfect' but I think it's pretty farkin' good.

/the secret is sour cream
//and four kinds of cheese
 
2012-06-23 02:20:47 AM  
i love the commercial of the american og chefs in tuscany learning the art of italian cuisine

/not very picky, except for some vegetables
//ate at "tasty goody" chinese buffet restaurant tonight
///with strawberry lemonade (with strawberry "pops")
 
2012-06-23 02:24:38 AM  

I should be in the kitchen: I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere,


Thanks for the suggestion. Will keep in mind. But, um, is this Google Street View by any chance accurate?

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-23 02:53:55 AM  

rustypouch: urban.derelict: Omahawg: Interesting, but what the hell's Capers?

sarcasm or a real question?

Yeah. I don't understand it either. Are they pickled peas or something? What's with the jar of formaldehyde? Who the f*ck would eat that?

I'm astounded that it's possible to make it to adulthood without know what capers are.

I suppose it's possible if you're the type of person who doesn't know that cheese comes in colors other than orange.


Jeebus, even Walmart sells Capers.
 
2012-06-23 02:55:54 AM  
My subjective feeling is that these places have raised prices pretty fast since the 2008 downturn ... entrees used to be $10-$12, now closer to $20.

The OG near us is fine for "can't be arsed cooking" and the kitchen staff may only speak Spanish but they manage a consistent al dente.

Having grown up on the ocean, I find RL / JCS / LJS a little scary.
 
2012-06-23 03:04:08 AM  
Here's an idea. Stop using frozen food, we can tell.

Oh and next time you come out with a dish (talking to you OG) that is a hit dont' take it away to make room for shiaty frozen food !!!
 
2012-06-23 03:59:10 AM  

vicejay: Any Farkers ever heading to New Orleans need to check this site out for the best local eats: http://www.nomenu.com


One of the interesting things about our town (the actual town, not the surrounding metro area) is that you really can't get a chain meal outside of fast food.

Look, chain restaurants are fine, for what they are. You roll in, grab a $15 lunch, take pity on the waitress and tip her $10, then you leave with the required calories and proteins. But damn I love being able to stroll around and have like 20 local options to pick from without even starting my vehicle. It's one of the things that give a place her own character rather being Just Another City.

There are no Applebee's or Chili's in downtown New Orleans. Some people are perplexed by this, which makes me wonder why they fly down here in the first place. I'll take a $10 po-boy and frozen schooner of Abita at Liuzza's, thank you very much. I'm gonna stop talking about this topic lest we be here all night.

/recently went to Parasol's just for the roast beef, and managed not to get drunk
//crazy, right?
 
2012-06-23 04:16:16 AM  
Olive garden is actually quite good... I don't know if they used to be worse, but they are one of the better chains I've experienced.
 
2012-06-23 04:27:24 AM  
I still don't like it that Red Lobster stopped serving hushpuppies. It's the only seafood place I've ever been to that doesn't serve hushpuppies. I remember the rumor being that it was because a yankee who doesn't understand how much us southerners like our hushpuppies bought the chain
 
2012-06-23 04:57:38 AM  

enderthexenocide: screw you guys, i love the olive garden. i go there a couple times a year and i've never had a bad experience. i've also been to more "authentic" local italian places and the food was 1) more expensive 2) took longer to arrive at my table and 3) tasted just about the same as olive garden's food anyway, so why bother? olive garden used to have this shrimp ravioli in garlic sauce stuff and my god it was the most delicious thing i've ever had in my life.


... if you were Milano, you'd know ravioli's only flavor is cervello. Shrimp has no place in raw pasta.
 
2012-06-23 04:59:20 AM  

jason1178: Pulitzer prize winning food reviewer's April Fool's joke backfires, has to review the Olive Garden


I'm a foodie and an Italian cook and waiter and do both whenever... and that was still an asshole review.

/"Oh this was good but fark 'em" the asshole should have written.
//Not defending Olive Garden, I've said what I think, but that's just a troll review.
 
2012-06-23 05:14:25 AM  

on the road: I should be in the kitchen: I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere,

Thanks for the suggestion. Will keep in mind. But, um, is this Google Street View by any chance accurate?

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Go back to that exact Street View image and make a 180. Google apparently put the restaurant on the wrong side of the street.

Jgok: I'll never understand it... Someone asks where to get good Italian food in town, I start listing off a dozen good locally-owned places, and they interrupt me to ask if there's an Olive Garden in town.

/I thought you wanted ITALIAN food.


I gave up on most chains years ago. We used to have an OG up the road, always packed, but they closed it. At the time I was sad, but after 3 trips to Italy I've gotten over it. Luckily I grew up in an area with plenty of mom and pop Italian restaurants... One of them's been in operation since Prohibition.
 
2012-06-23 09:17:13 AM  
You people eat bagged salads.
You people would eat at a place that had a gravy fountain.

Now I'm off to prepare dinner.
That's right. Prepare dinner at 9:15 in the AM.

Give me this day's meat, yesterday's bread, and last year's cider.
 
2012-06-23 09:52:35 AM  
eater.com
 
2012-06-23 10:31:39 AM  

macadamnut: John Buck 41: My local real Italian restaurant. Awesome doesn't come close to describing it.

Link

Wow, I live in Orono & have never heard of that place. Did it used to be Tesoro?


No idea.
 
2012-06-23 10:42:44 AM  
Darden Restaurants = Frozen food.

It's all terrible. Long Horn, Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Bahama Breeze...awful. There are big chains out there that don't freeze almost every piece of meat on the menu, and they're less expensive to boot. I avoid Darden restaurants at all costs.
 
2012-06-23 10:43:24 AM  

misanthropic1: The Jami Turman Fan Club: farkityfarker: MeAs much as I hear the term "authentic" Italian food, or Mexican food, or whatever else, I've still yet go get an explanation of what it actually consists of.

Authentic Mexican food involves tortillas, cheese, and refried beans, in various combinations. Oh, and hot sauce. I had some before they put on the hot sauce, it was the blandest stuff imaginable.

You're a riot. Ahem: http://hugosrestaurant.net/

/traditional Mexican is an incredibly diverse, regionally-oriented cuisine
//tex-mex is as you described, give or take some lard and/or beef


I'm not talking about tex-mex. I'm saying that if you go to an average diner in Monterrey, that's what you're going to get. The "mexican" food I've gotten in Mexican restaurants here (owned and served by Mexicans) was far better than the food I got in Mexico.
 
2012-06-23 10:53:46 AM  
As a person living in Europe, authentic Italian food is terrible. The only authentic food worth a damn is Turkish and varieties of asian food. Ill stick with American Italian, American pizza, and American steak houses. Red Lobster has the best biscuits and cheese sticks. Olive Garden is alright but rather flat in flavor.
 
2012-06-23 11:44:33 AM  

jason1178: Pulitzer prize winning food reviewer's April Fool's joke backfires, has to review the Olive Garden


What a boring and pretentious fool. I'm not a fan of Olive Garden, but that doesn't make me better than someone who is. And it's not bad. It's just not anything special.
 
2012-06-23 12:28:33 PM  

Tman144: OnlyM3: meat0918

Could it be that Americans
...don't think the economy is doing as great as this idiot does.
[cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356]

Dude, fark off. Who brings politics into a farking Red Lobster thread?


Gay people. NTTAWWT (though it is annoying)
 
2012-06-23 12:55:41 PM  

Allen. The end.: rustypouch: I'm astounded that it's possible to make it to adulthood without know what capers are.

I worked with a fifty-year-old woman in Huntsville, Alabama who didn't know what a date was.


I'm told you can find them online.
 
2012-06-23 02:00:42 PM  

JesseL: Great restaurants for those really special occasions when even someplace as fancy as Applebee's or Chili's won't do.


I don't know why you douchebags have to rag on those four chains constantly. They're great for what they do- if you want fine dining, go to a fine dining establishment. If you want a steak, go to a steakhouse. If you want what they're offering, go there.

No need to be dicks about it.

/says this every.goddamn.time.
 
2012-06-23 03:06:06 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: misanthropic1: The Jami Turman Fan Club: farkityfarker: MeAs much as I hear the term "authentic" Italian food, or Mexican food, or whatever else, I've still yet go get an explanation of what it actually consists of.

Authentic Mexican food involves tortillas, cheese, and refried beans, in various combinations. Oh, and hot sauce. I had some before they put on the hot sauce, it was the blandest stuff imaginable.

You're a riot. Ahem: http://hugosrestaurant.net/

/traditional Mexican is an incredibly diverse, regionally-oriented cuisine
//tex-mex is as you described, give or take some lard and/or beef

I'm not talking about tex-mex. I'm saying that if you go to an average diner in Monterrey, that's what you're going to get. The "mexican" food I've gotten in Mexican restaurants here (owned and served by Mexicans) was far better than the food I got in Mexico.


I've had some pretty terrible food in Mexico, but I've also had some great fresh-caught ceviches and seafood, some surprisingly good tex-mex-esque fare, and some really good upscale dining specializing in traditional Mayan preparations. In my experience, most places in the world have a lot of bad food, but also some really great food, if you know where to look.
 
2012-06-23 03:11:39 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: JesseL: Great restaurants for those really special occasions when even someplace as fancy as Applebee's or Chili's won't do.

I don't know why you douchebags have to rag on those four chains constantly. They're great for what they do- if you want fine dining, go to a fine dining establishment. If you want a steak, go to a steakhouse. If you want what they're offering, go there.

No need to be dicks about it.

/says this every.goddamn.time.


White-knighting chain restaurants every.goddamn.time.?

How noble.
 
2012-06-23 03:12:12 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: JesseL: Great restaurants for those really special occasions when even someplace as fancy as Applebee's or Chili's won't do.

I don't know why you douchebags have to rag on those four chains constantly. They're great for what they do- if you want fine dining, go to a fine dining establishment. If you want a steak, go to a steakhouse. If you want what they're offering, go there.

No need to be dicks about it.

/says this every.goddamn.time.


And why buy from local retailers when you can get most of the same stuff from Walmart? Elitist scum with their smug conscientious-consumption; if exclusively corporate consumption is good enough for me, it should be good enough for everyone goddamnit!
 
2012-06-23 03:28:56 PM  

lilplatinum: Why can't you people eat real food? Personally, I can't wait to go to Manhattan and eat at the TGI Fridays in Times Square..


My family went to NYC for a wedding. We et my uncle and cousin up after having one of the best goddamn Italian meals of my life, family style, that broke down to about $15 for each of us. Fresh basil and mozzarella and best tomatoes I've eaten that I didn't pick out of a garden myself, awesome just in season asparagus, too much pasta and fresh bread for us to make a dent in... a decade later and I remember it.

My cousin and uncle went to the Times Square Olive Garden. And raved about it. My dad and I still exchange a glance anytime either one of them recommends a restaurant, a decade later.

/like eating in the private kitchen of a delightful Italian stereotype!
 
2012-06-23 03:39:55 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: The Jami Turman Fan Club: farkityfarker: MeAs much as I hear the term "authentic" Italian food, or Mexican food, or whatever else, I've still yet go get an explanation of what it actually consists of.

Authentic Mexican food involves tortillas, cheese, and refried beans, in various combinations. Oh, and hot sauce. I had some before they put on the hot sauce, it was the blandest stuff imaginable.

Rick Bayless should punch you in the nuts for saying that.


I laughed.

The authentic taqueria by my house doesn't put cheese on anything except a bit of quesco fresco on the veggie tacos, maybe a torta.
 
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