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(BusinessWeek)   Olive Garden and Red Lobster struggle to revive sales, as American appetite for authentic Italian foods and high-class seafood cuisine dwindles   (businessweek.com ) divider line
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2012-06-22 07:48:16 PM  

kidsizedcoffin: styckx: berylman: styckx: My favorite ghetto place (and by ghetto I mean stereotyping the place by the commericials) is Golden Corral. I see their commercials all the time and lol @ the fattie magnet Chocolate Wonderfall and now they're even giving away Cotton Candy.. That place is the poster child for obesity in America.

Oh yeah I saw that this morning and was thinking alike laughing. I would really like to sit in on their marketing team meetings. It's like their subtly mocking their clientele. Golden Corral, we know you have no dignity left so come on down.

I really want to go there and stick my wang in the chocolate wonderfall and cause a scene for lulz but I would probably end up tased to death.

Dude, people dip steak and meatloaf in that fountain and not for jokes either. Link

shiat, if this is gonna be that kind of party, I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes.


Bread pudding for me.
 
2012-06-22 07:48:39 PM  

hbk72777: Ray Liotta described what Olive Garden makes in Goodfellas

"I asked for spaghetti with marinara and I got egg noodles and ketchup"


You should try an "Italian" restaurant in a Japanese shopping mall sometime.

Well, no, really, you shouldn't.

Ever.
 
2012-06-22 07:49:03 PM  

Shenanigans!: I see people make this assertion, and yet no microwave oven I've ever used has actually worked like this. I have yet to encounter one that cooks from the inside out. If you have a make and model you can recommend, that'd be awesome. I'd love to give it a spin.


This is like the one we have at work and it cooks about twice as fast as the Magic Chef I have at home. Really amazing actually. I tend to warm something up in little bits. Like start with 99 seconds, then 66 sec, see how it looks, do another 44 seconds and you're done depending on the quantity you're heating.
Link
 
2012-06-22 07:49:16 PM  
Better than Long John's?

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

He'll be the judge of that.

/Enjoy your evening.
 
2012-06-22 07:52:17 PM  
All I'm saying is that corporatism has created cheaper food all around, and since I'm poor, when I used to go "out" the food was better. It's only gotten worse since I could afford eating out. shiat, corporations now "vote" in your cheap-ass elections, biatches. You think they'll spend more on your "food" now?

;)
 
2012-06-22 07:53:38 PM  

KOOLmike: Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB.


Because On The Border's Gringo-Mex is so different from authentic Mexican that it's essentially an entirely different cuisine altogether. It's sorta like comparing French and Italian cuisine and arguing about which is more authentically Italian. Of course Italian food is more Italian than French food, but that doesn't make French food BAD. I happen to like both.
 
2012-06-22 07:54:22 PM  

PapaChester: They recently opened an Olive Garden and Red Lobster directly next to each other in our redone shopping mall. The old people here love it. No one seems to know that they are owned by the same company.

Then again, no one seems to know the Trader Joe's is German.


They have to live closer to the ones in the 'nard why drive up here? And it just reminds me, I miss the old Bauducco's.... Hurry up and re-open you bastards! Even the new owners were better than the Sysco frozen slop house that is the og.
 
2012-06-22 07:54:29 PM  

Eshman: DocFarker: How do a bunch of honkie crakers turn an article about Red Lobster and Olive Garden loosing business in piss poor economic times into a race issue?

Well you see, they fancy themselves "not racist" while at the same time demonstrating that by their very though processes they are, in fact, racist.


Thank you for explaining.
 
2012-06-22 07:55:23 PM  
The stupidity of the American Consumer Drone has not changed, they just have less money now.
 
2012-06-22 07:55:39 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: I still tease my mom about the first time she and dad came to visit me in Vegas, nearly ten years ago now. They had offered to take my then-husband and I out to dinner and she suggested Olive Garden.

Who goes to Vegas to eat at the freakin' Olive Garden?



Yo mamma?
 
2012-06-22 07:55:48 PM  

vicejay: Any Farkers ever heading to New Orleans need to check this site out for the best local eats: http://www.nomenu.com


Oceana Grill, just off Bourbon Street. PoBoys to die for, and burgers the size of the freakin' plate! Followed by begnies (sp) at Cafe Du Monde in the French Market.
 
2012-06-22 07:57:35 PM  
Lowest common denominator dreck. I'd rather eat dog food.
 
2012-06-22 07:57:51 PM  
It's a Ramen Noodle every night kind of US these days.
 
Biv
2012-06-22 07:58:29 PM  

DocFarker: How do a bunch of honkie crakers turn an article about Red Lobster and Olive Garden loosing business in piss poor economic times into a race issue?


LOSING, it's LOSING damn it. Why do so many people spell that wrong?

I ate at OG once, it was decent but expensive. As someone else says, I think the location has a lot to do with it. Never been to a RL or PF.

I'm guilty of being fond of Panda Express. Black Pepper Chicken FTW.
 
2012-06-22 07:59:22 PM  

Shoop008: iaazathot: On the other hand the same business group operates PF Chang's which has some decent food by comparison.

PF Changs is owned by PF Changs. Darden does not own or run it. Darden is basically Red Lobster and Olive garden with some other minor chains or specialty restaurants.


Paul French owns PF Changs ( and Pei Wie ).
 
2012-06-22 08:00:37 PM  
Do they make a book called "white folk lingo for dumbies"? I assume they do so do any of you know where I can get a copy?
 
2012-06-22 08:02:13 PM  

lilplatinum: No excuse for eating at either of those places after high school... If you eat there you are bad and you should feel bad.. If you live somewhere where those are your choices, you need to move.


Better yet, go down to the Olive Garden or Red Lobster after they close and burn them to the ground. Fire is a cleanser.
 
2012-06-22 08:02:46 PM  
If Texas is any indication, I think part of their dwindling sales might be a result of other chains which emphasize higher-quality(relatively) food, in particular the owners of Fish Daddy's and Cheddar's, have been intentionally locating their competing franchises near to Red Lobster and Olive Garden shops, especially in growing markets. The price differences between a Carino's and an Olive Garden aren't that different, and the difference in quality is enormous.
 
2012-06-22 08:03:02 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: I still tease my mom about the first time she and dad came to visit me in Vegas, nearly ten years ago now. They had offered to take my then-husband and I out to dinner and she suggested Olive Garden.

Who goes to Vegas to eat at the freakin' Olive Garden?

I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere, the little old man strolling around with his accordion and the all-you-can-drink house wine kick Olive Garden's ass any day.


I know, right? All kinds of choices to love in Vegas. You could be eating at the King's Buffet at the Excalibur or the Starchstravaganza at the Imperial Palace or Rewarmed Taco Night at the El Cortez.
 
2012-06-22 08:03:16 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-22 08:03:25 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Called my dad on father's day. He said he'd gone to Red Lobster for dinner only to find it "full of every black and mexican" in the area.

I LOL'd at his racism.

Se gusta skrimps.


And welcome to the "favorites."
 
2012-06-22 08:03:30 PM  

Jument: Meh, I like PF Changs.


My wife & I eat at PF Chang's. She was born in China, lived there until she was 6, and grew up eating home-cooked Chinese food, but she still enjoys PF on occasion.

PF Chang's is distinctly different than the kind of home-cooked Chinese food that her parents make -- not "authentic" -- but "authentic" and "good" are totally independent concepts. Food can be inauthentic and good, or authentic and bad.

/ lots of tasty things have come from ethnic food being adapted to local tastes
 
2012-06-22 08:03:35 PM  

RussianPooper: Requiring restaurants to give breaks in the middle of lunch or dinner rush is asinine and only shows that the regulators are clueless, not to mention people like you who think it's a reason to boycott.


Is the opposition really to give breaks in the middle of lunch or dinner rush, or to give breaks, period?
 
2012-06-22 08:04:40 PM  

KOOLmike: Red Lobster and Olive Garden are in the same category as Applebee's, Chili's, On the Border, Chi-Chi's (remember those?), etc. Piss poor representations of their respective cuisines. Joe's Crab Shack sucks, too.
When you know where all the independent restaurants or hole-in-the-wall joints are in town, the chains just don't cut it.
Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB. Same goes for Italian-- why spend a fortune eating at Carrabba's when V's or Garozzo's has much better food? It might sound snobby, and that's okay, but there's no way anyone can say with a straight face that the food is better at those chain restaurants.


Buy the pre-cooked lasagna at Sam's Club and eat it for a week. After that you can recognize it at all your local independent restaurants.
 
2012-06-22 08:06:39 PM  

Eshman: DocFarker: How do a bunch of honkie crakers turn an article about Red Lobster and Olive Garden loosing business in piss poor economic times into a race issue?

Well you see, they fancy themselves "not racist" while at the same time demonstrating that by their very though processes they are, in fact, racist.


Note: "I'm not racist, but" is not a valid legal disclaimer.
 
2012-06-22 08:08:04 PM  

HempHead: Buy the pre-cooked lasagna at Sam's Club and eat it for a week. After that you can recognize it at all your local independent restaurants.


It's true -- I know plenty of local places that are (in cases, far) worse than the big chains. There are also a few local places that are truly stellar, but they are rare. Chains are at least consistently ok; neither bad nor truly excellent.
 
2012-06-22 08:09:03 PM  
How does a thread about food go racism?

Oh, yeah.

Racists and perceptions.

Color me surprised.

;)
 
2012-06-22 08:09:11 PM  

optikeye: But then again 100 percent of Applebees really suck.


Maybe it's a local thing, but the Applebee's restaurants I've eaten at here have served me pretty decent food. One plus point for them is that the kitchen is open late. I'm often looking for dinner at 11:00 PM, and around here, the only other choices at that time of night are drive-thru burger joints, Denny's and Village Inn. If I'm eating earlier, though, there are better choices.

Haven't eaten at Olive Garden in years, but I ate at Red Lobster once a few months ago. Never again.
 
2012-06-22 08:09:46 PM  
I briefly worked at Red Lobster. It was the most filthy, vile, disgusting kitchen I've ever seen. They gave customers dirty silverware, servers made salads with bare, unwashed hands, and everyone picked food off of customer's plates before it went out to them. Every surface from counter to floor was never cleaned properly and was sticky and slimy. The cooks arms and hands were covered in burns and scars. The dishes were in no way clean.

The smell is something I'll never forget. The dish tank made me want to vomit. I had to quit after 2 weeks.

/ 15 year veteran of restaurant work. Even now I work in one on the weekends. I've never seen another kitchen even remotely that bad.
 
2012-06-22 08:10:01 PM  
Ah, restaurant snobbery. Right up there with wine snobbery and fair food snobbery.
 
2012-06-22 08:10:03 PM  

LtDarkstar: What's funny is watching all of the ghetto black people who go to Red Lobster in their "finest" fake furs and crap because to them that's a "very upscale restaurant" LOL! I wonder how many times Red Lobster has been asked if they take food stamps :P


Pappadeaux in Texas is the exact same.
 
2012-06-22 08:10:09 PM  

Indubitably: How does a thread about food go racism?

Oh, yeah.

Racists and perceptions.

Color me surprised.

;)


P.S. Cut your skin off: you all look the same to me, you?
 
2012-06-22 08:10:12 PM  

optikeye: The 'try local places' is a myth when you randomly pick one while traveling as 95precent of them really suck.


If only we could somehow connect our computers, phones, tablets etc. together in a way that they could communicate with each other. Then people could share reviews of all of the local restaurants so that we could make an educated decision. Oh well, let's just go to the Olive Garden.
 
Biv
2012-06-22 08:10:14 PM  

styckx: Oh and Applebees doesn't suck if you look at its usefulness correctly.

Usually Applebees has one of the better bar setups and some of the best drunk food available. I spent more time in my drinking days getting hammered at Applebees than the local bars..


And get the Black and Blue Burger...so farking good.
 
2012-06-22 08:10:24 PM  
"Olive Garden and Red Lobster struggle to revive sales" ...

When in doubt, merge

gowausau.webs.com


/red olive?
 
2012-06-22 08:10:25 PM  

ciberido: KOOLmike: Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB.

Because On The Border's Gringo-Mex is so different from authentic Mexican that it's essentially an entirely different cuisine altogether. It's sorta like comparing French and Italian cuisine and arguing about which is more authentically Italian. Of course Italian food is more Italian than French food, but that doesn't make French food BAD. I happen to like both.


Hell, I'll go along with that. OTB is certainly its own cuisine, but I just didn't care for it. Been 10 years, though, so maybe my new non-smoker taste buds will approve if I ever give in to the wife and eat there.
 
2012-06-22 08:11:13 PM  

Biv: DocFarker: How do a bunch of honkie crakers turn an article about Red Lobster and Olive Garden loosing business in piss poor economic times into a race issue?

LOSING, it's LOSING damn it. Why do so many people spell that wrong?

I ate at OG once, it was decent but expensive. As someone else says, I think the location has a lot to do with it. Never been to a RL or PF.

I'm guilty of being fond of Panda Express. Black Pepper Chicken FTW.


the last spelling bea i wuz in i quit because i was loosing it.
 
2012-06-22 08:11:20 PM  

Shenanigans!: dericwater: TheGreatGazoo: OG and RL both have decent dinner rolls/bread sticks.

The last time I ate at RL it was next to the hotel I was staying at. I got shrimp pasta alfredo (pretty hard to screw up). It was served with the cheese on the top molten and the cheese in the middle raw.

Which means it wasn't microwaved. Otherwise, the cheese in the middle would be melted and the cheese on top would not.

I see people make this assertion, and yet no microwave oven I've ever used has actually worked like this. I have yet to encounter one that cooks from the inside out. If you have a make and model you can recommend, that'd be awesome. I'd love to give it a spin.


The heating properties of a microwave oven depend on the frequency of microwaves that it uses; there are hot spots and cold spots that match the wave length. Which is why most modern microwaves have turntables, and microwave meal cooking instructions recommend resting the food for a minute or so before consumption.

Given the wave nature of microwaves, removing the turntable from your microwave also allows a simple experiment to work out the speed of light, by measuring the distance between the heated areas.

Link
Link
 
Biv
2012-06-22 08:12:29 PM  

DocFarker: Do they make a book called "white folk lingo for dumbies"? I assume they do so do any of you know where I can get a copy?


Yes, it's called the dictionary. Most fine bookstores should carry one.

If you can't find it, just aks.
 
2012-06-22 08:12:51 PM  

HempHead: KOOLmike: Red Lobster and Olive Garden are in the same category as Applebee's, Chili's, On the Border, Chi-Chi's (remember those?), etc. Piss poor representations of their respective cuisines. Joe's Crab Shack sucks, too.
When you know where all the independent restaurants or hole-in-the-wall joints are in town, the chains just don't cut it.
Here in KC, I don't understand why anyone would eat at On the Border when there is better, more authentic Mexican faire such as El Maguey or Manny's, often with lower prices than OTB. Same goes for Italian-- why spend a fortune eating at Carrabba's when V's or Garozzo's has much better food? It might sound snobby, and that's okay, but there's no way anyone can say with a straight face that the food is better at those chain restaurants.

Buy the pre-cooked lasagna at Sam's Club and eat it for a week. After that you can recognize it at all your local independent restaurants.


I don't doubt it, but why would I want to chance ruining the perfect little world of food snobbiness I've built for myself?
 
2012-06-22 08:13:02 PM  

thoughtsausage: I should be in the kitchen: I still tease my mom about the first time she and dad came to visit me in Vegas, nearly ten years ago now. They had offered to take my then-husband and I out to dinner and she suggested Olive Garden.

Who goes to Vegas to eat at the freakin' Olive Garden?

I talked them into Battista's Hole in the Wall. The food is good--not spectacular, but the cool "Old Vegas" atmosphere, the little old man strolling around with his accordion and the all-you-can-drink house wine kick Olive Garden's ass any day.

Almost as bad as people who go to New York, home of the best Italian food outside of Italy, and eat at farking Olive Garden. I'm pretty sure those people actually hate food.

/but never-ending pasta!!!11!!


Now that's just wrong! When I'm in New York, I like to go to my favorite little pizza joint called Sbarro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKuT3dIwfc
 
2012-06-22 08:13:20 PM  

netcentric: It's a Ramen Noodle every night kind of US these days.


This. People can't afford to dine in a restaurant anymore. The wiped out middle class don't even have it delivered never mind going out. We pick it up now.
 
2012-06-22 08:13:51 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Called my dad on father's day. He said he'd gone to Red Lobster for dinner only to find it "full of every black and mexican" in the area.

I LOL'd at his racism.


I was at the NTTA (toll both authority place for Dallas, TX) and two middle age white women where in front of me and a black guy was paying and he said something about cash so one of the women opened her book and wrote in big bold letters "that is what they only carry."

I would say I am shocked by the blatant racism but old white people make me laugh because they do it so frequently and don't care. Meanwhile if you say a thing about them they raise a stink.

/red lobster is trash
//the biscuits are the only thing and my wife can make them exactly at home so she just makes those when I want some crappy seafood.
 
2012-06-22 08:14:42 PM  
Evenbiggerknickers;must include this

NSFW language

Link...i'd choose A for sure and the go cook us dinner
 
Biv
2012-06-22 08:14:54 PM  

Indubitably: How does a thread about food go racism?

Oh, yeah.

Racists and perceptions.

Color me surprised.

;)


What color is that? I want to make fun of you.
 
2012-06-22 08:15:14 PM  
better dressing than olive garden. make it at home any time you please

Short Stop Italian salad dressing:

1 Cup Sugar
2 T Salt
2/3 Cup Water
1 1/2 Cup Cider Vinegar
1 T Parsley
2 Cloves Garlic (minced)
Capers (I use a couple of Tablespoons)
Mix the above and let sit at least 1/2 hour.

Then add:

1 Cup oil
Stir and refrigerate. If oil gets thick let set out 1/2 hour before using.
 
2012-06-22 08:15:24 PM  

MrEricSir: It's 2012... and you still haven't heard of Yelp? Really?


Yelp is pretty useless IMHO. It's like depending on You tube comments for suggestions.
 
2012-06-22 08:15:29 PM  
I have done et in worser places then either of them, n paid more. No shiat.
 
2012-06-22 08:16:18 PM  

AbortionsForAll: ongbok: LtDarkstar: What's funny is watching all of the ghetto black people who go to Red Lobster in their "finest" fake furs and crap because to them that's a "very upscale restaurant" LOL! I wonder how many times Red Lobster has been asked if they take food stamps :P

It's even funnier watching the trailer trash white folks like you that go there dressed in your best CAT hat and flannel laughing at them when everybody already knows the real joke is that Red Lobster is the closest that you will ever get to an upscale restaurant.

Just so you know, your reply was vastly inferior to the statement which you were answering (on multiple levels - humor, accuracy, etc.).


Perhaps, but your unsolicited interjection is vastly inferior to either post.
 
2012-06-22 08:17:54 PM  

Biv: DocFarker: Do they make a book called "white folk lingo for dumbies"? I assume they do so do any of you know where I can get a copy?

Yes, it's called the dictionary. Most fine bookstores should carry one.

If you can't find it, just aks.


Dicktionary
 
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