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(Cracked)   CDC: "Men have 3x the number of sexual partners as women." Mathematics: "The CDC is retarded"   (cracked.com) divider line 113
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2012-06-22 12:20:28 PM
The number could explained simply. I know a few people that have had sex with in excess of 250 women so far excluding hookers, most stop counting at 100 and just use averaging per month. If you throw in pro athletes and show biz types whose number is a best guess of 500 plus, it makes the men that do not know how to talk women or are poor and ugly hovering at less than 5 have a higher average.
 
2012-06-22 12:43:39 PM
The number is incredibly easy to explain. So easy in fact, that Cracked had to make a fundamental change to the survey results in order to write this article.
 
2012-06-22 12:59:37 PM
Without going three links deep to find it, does the original survey only count straight people or does it include people that are gay/bisexual?
 
2012-06-22 01:14:59 PM
Well, the problem is obvious: they're using self-reported numbers. And with men tending to inflate their numbers, and women deflating them, the overall coming out as men having 3x as many partners is really not very surprising. It doesn't mean the media is sexist (although bad at math is likely), it just means people lie about sex. A lot.
 
2012-06-22 01:16:45 PM
Can't count how many women I've slept with.. Lost count at the age of 30 and i'm well past the count of 100. But i've always gone with the low hanging fruit.. That girl in a group of 5 that I know I can bang. I could easily see the statistic being reliable as only certain women sleep around where most men will have a hard time saying no to free bootie. Though a large portion of men have no idea how to get a woman into bed so that offsets guys like me who get to "make the rounds" as it were.
 
2012-06-22 01:17:52 PM
Headline: "CDC: "Men have 3x the number of sexual partners as women." Mathematics: "The CDC is retarded""

Reality: Men report 3x the number of sexual partners as women in a survey where no one will follow up and ask for any kind of proof.
 
2012-06-22 01:52:10 PM

eurotrader: The number could explained simply. I know a few people that have had sex with in excess of 250 women so far excluding hookers, most stop counting at 100 and just use averaging per month. If you throw in pro athletes and show biz types whose number is a best guess of 500 plus, it makes the men that do not know how to talk women or are poor and ugly hovering at less than 5 have a higher average.


And there are probably (close to) equally as many women who- during their slutty years- did the same.

I know plenty of women who do it now, or did it in their teens and 20s and got it out of their system. Still racked up 100+ partners in their lifetime.

Its all about reporting. And come on... its obvious. Men brag more, women less so.
 
2012-06-22 02:02:10 PM

downstairs: eurotrader: The number could explained simply. I know a few people that have had sex with in excess of 250 women so far excluding hookers, most stop counting at 100 and just use averaging per month. If you throw in pro athletes and show biz types whose number is a best guess of 500 plus, it makes the men that do not know how to talk women or are poor and ugly hovering at less than 5 have a higher average.

And there are probably (close to) equally as many women who- during their slutty years- did the same.

I know plenty of women who do it now, or did it in their teens and 20s and got it out of their system. Still racked up 100+ partners in their lifetime.

Its all about reporting. And come on... its obvious. Men brag more, women less so.


And, when you're a woman and you're ready to settle down, the ones worth settling down with are the ones who tend to freak out when a woman has a higher number of partners than they do. So there is that.
 
2012-06-22 02:11:24 PM
The numbers will go up with more people seeing sex as a recreational pastime. The only time you have to sell the idea of only sex for love is talking to your own daughter when she is still under 18 and she knows you're a hypocrite about some things anyway. Sex can be a lot of fun and knowing everyone's name is overrated and could lead to problems anyway, esp. from crazy women. Live in a foreign country for a little while, woman love to try new, and there can be an argument for a genetic drive for it as well. Or just visit New Zealand.
 
2012-06-22 02:21:21 PM

eurotrader: The number could explained simply. I know a few people that have had sex with in excess of 250 women so far excluding hookers, most stop counting at 100 and just use averaging per month. If you throw in pro athletes and show biz types whose number is a best guess of 500 plus, it makes the men that do not know how to talk women or are poor and ugly hovering at less than 5 have a higher average.


I hope you don't trade currencies based on the level of understanding of mathematics displayed by your statement.

Do you believe that there are fewer men than women in the population? That these values are medians rather than means? That the pool of responses is biased across gender? That the reporting is differentially reliable with respect to gender? That a much higher percentage of contacts are male to male than female to female?

Seriously, are you incapable of the most basic mathematical reasoning?
 
2012-06-22 02:23:27 PM

susansto-helit: And, when you're a woman and you're ready to settle down, the ones worth settling down with are the ones who tend to freak out when a woman has a higher number of partners than they do. So there is that.


My wife had has had more than me, and she's not shy about it. Doesn't bother me any. Meh, I guess some guys are insecure about that sort of thing. I don't know why our individual pasts would have any effect on how I think of her now.
 
2012-06-22 02:39:05 PM
I made sweet, sweet love to this thread and two others. One was in the politics tab. Doctor said a little ointment would clear that right up, though.
 
2012-06-22 02:56:47 PM
Since it's a Cracked link, shouldn't it be 6x as many?
 
2012-06-22 03:04:52 PM
Woo! Eskimo brothers!
 
2012-06-22 03:35:56 PM
We counting orifices or bodies?
 
2012-06-22 03:38:10 PM

bronyaur1: That these values are medians rather than means?


wait wait wait wait
are you saying that I cant just pretend that median and average (mean) are the same thing?
bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

I was laughing so hard when I tried to read that abortion of an excuse of math and logic in the article.
 
2012-06-22 03:39:18 PM
Mathematics: "The CDC has itself blowing up at the end of Season 1 of Walking Dead. We have Danica McKellar."
 
2012-06-22 03:44:46 PM
They are not counting age in this. Women sleep with older men far more regularly than young men sleep with older chicks.

In other words: this makes the potential pussy "pool" potentially more plentiful for polyamourous male persons of a certain age.
 
2012-06-22 03:46:58 PM

Shaggy_C: They are not counting age in this. Women sleep with older men far more regularly than young men sleep with older chicks.

In other words: this makes the potential pussy "pool" potentially more plentiful for polyamourous male persons of a certain age.


Oh yeah man.. My post 30 days have been hectic. I'm that guy that I used to hate when I was 22 or so. Mid 30s, plenty of money to screw around with, nice car/boat/plane etc etc.. Easy pickens!
 
2012-06-22 03:52:52 PM

xynix: Oh yeah man.. My post 30 days have been hectic. I'm that guy that I used to hate when I was 22 or so. Mid 30s, plenty of money to screw around with, nice car/boat/plane etc etc.. Easy pickens!


I believe it. Though I must say the 'playing the field' thing started to get old quickly when hangovers actually started to matter. It would annoy me to no end that the college girl I would be hooking up with on Saturday night would still be on a bender come Tuesday afternoon while I was sitting in the office dealing with real work. Guess I need to up my target age group again!
 
2012-06-22 03:55:14 PM

eurotrader: The number could explained simply. I know a few people that have had sex with in excess of 250 women so far excluding hookers, most stop counting at 100 and just use averaging per month. If you throw in pro athletes and show biz types whose number is a best guess of 500 plus, it makes the men that do not know how to talk women or are poor and ugly hovering at less than 5 have a higher average.


This still would not make the difference. I see others have explained the failure which is you to you. I will not go further on this.

Evolutionary psychologists have examined how many individuals people desire to have in the lifetime of them. The means are way different such that this is close to 7 to 1 or so. The medians are actually quite close the same. Of course some of those who have responded to this are the TotalFark.com website male posters and probably said "5000" but the true actuality is they will not ever do the sexing.

But basically this is the regurgitated story. I have seen this many times over the past decade or so in statistics books and other sources.
 
2012-06-22 04:33:25 PM
This guy also needs to consider life expectancy.

Women who have sex with multiple men are more likely to be murdered by their spouse, thus are unable to respond to the survey.

So, let's start with that same 5/5 example the guy uses.
Males A, B, and C marry Females A, B, C respectively. Each married couple has sex with each other, so average of 1 partner on both sides..
Male A has sex with females A (his wife), B (Male B's wife), D, and E.
Male B finds out about it and murders Female B.

So, number of sexual partners reported by gender.
A (4), B (1), C(1), D(0), E(0) = 6
A (1), , C(1), D(1), E(1) = 4

Now it turns out Male A is also a serial killer:
A (4), B(1), C(1), D(0), E(0) = 6
A (1), , C(1) = 2
 
2012-06-22 04:35:45 PM

Shaggy_C: xynix: Oh yeah man.. My post 30 days have been hectic. I'm that guy that I used to hate when I was 22 or so. Mid 30s, plenty of money to screw around with, nice car/boat/plane etc etc.. Easy pickens!

I believe it. Though I must say the 'playing the field' thing started to get old quickly when hangovers actually started to matter. It would annoy me to no end that the college girl I would be hooking up with on Saturday night would still be on a bender come Tuesday afternoon while I was sitting in the office dealing with real work. Guess I need to up my target age group again!


I've been blessed by a superior constitution! I'm 38 and have no problem pounding down drinks from Friday until Sunday and having a solid work week going forward. I just had blood work done because I'm getting to be an old farker and doctors want to do that too me every year. Anyways my liver still shows up as normal. WTF! Doctor says he's seen many 20 year olds less healthy than me. My current GF by the way is 23 ;)
 
2012-06-22 04:55:21 PM

xynix: Shaggy_C: xynix: Oh yeah man.. My post 30 days have been hectic. I'm that guy that I used to hate when I was 22 or so. Mid 30s, plenty of money to screw around with, nice car/boat/plane etc etc.. Easy pickens!

I believe it. Though I must say the 'playing the field' thing started to get old quickly when hangovers actually started to matter. It would annoy me to no end that the college girl I would be hooking up with on Saturday night would still be on a bender come Tuesday afternoon while I was sitting in the office dealing with real work. Guess I need to up my target age group again!

I've been blessed by a superior constitution! I'm 38 and have no problem pounding down drinks from Friday until Sunday and having a solid work week going forward. I just had blood work done because I'm getting to be an old farker and doctors want to do that too me every year. Anyways my liver still shows up as normal. WTF! Doctor says he's seen many 20 year olds less healthy than me. My current GF by the way is 23 ;)


How many minutes do you have to get to the gym? Is it about 26?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-06-22 05:01:56 PM
Cracked only counts live humans. Wait until this thread hits the main page we see all the liters who typically have carnal relations with dead women and neighbors' pets. 3X will seem a bit low.
 
2012-06-22 05:02:35 PM

xynix: I've been blessed by a superior constitution! I'm 38 and have no problem pounding down drinks from Friday until Sunday and having a solid work week going forward.


Same here. Never get hangovers anymore.
 
2012-06-22 05:10:52 PM
Not around Fark, they don't.
 
2012-06-22 05:25:16 PM
Guess it's worth pointing out that it's the nature of two genders, the first of which is obligated to spread his seed so to speak, and the second of which has a biological incentive to be more choosy (so they know who the father is for each gestation). Of course the former is going to have more partners by pure statistics.
 
2012-06-22 05:27:50 PM
Maybe it counted Chinese rubber mushrooms as partners.

www.examiner.com
 
2012-06-22 05:30:39 PM
I stopped counting my sex partners when I hit 700 by my 19th birthday. Seeing as how the number of women I had sex with increased at an exponential rate, I'd say I've easily had around (1.15 X 1019) partners.
 
2012-06-22 05:30:44 PM
They are also making assumptions about what the word 'average' means.

Cracked' maths is correct for the "arithmetic mean", which is what most people think the word 'average' means.

But a mathematician will tell you there are also things called "Modes" and "Medians" both of which are types of "averages" as typically used by human being, and it IS possible for the mode and median of men's sexual partners to be different than that of woman.

Mode basically means the number that most people have. That is, if most men have 3 partners, but a few have none and some have 1000, the mode is still 3. Women could easily have a mode of 2 and men could have a mode of 5. Or vice versa.

Median is effectively the number that half have more and half have less.

That is, it is possible for half of all men have more than 4 partners and half have less, while simultaneously half of all women have more than 2 partners and half have less.
 
2012-06-22 05:30:44 PM

Somaticasual: Guess it's worth pointing out that it's the nature of two genders, the first of which is obligated to spread his seed so to speak, and the second of which has a biological incentive to be more choosy (so they know who the father is for each gestation). Of course the former is going to have more partners by pure statistics.


They'll have the same number of partners...
 
2012-06-22 05:32:03 PM
Some moron at Cracked has decided he's Marilyn vos Savant all of a sudden?
 
2012-06-22 05:38:17 PM
The median number could be different, but I don't think that's what they're reporting.
 
2012-06-22 05:39:46 PM

chimp_ninja: Headline: "CDC: "Men have 3x the number of sexual partners as women." Mathematics: "The CDC is retarded""

Reality: Men report 3x the number of sexual partners as women in a survey where no one will follow up and ask for any kind of proof.


THIS

How many guys are going to admit to not getting laid in months/years? Exactly zero. How many guys will multiply the number of partners they've had to make them look like complete studs? Approx. 99.99%. Hell, if some random survey guy asks me a question like that, I guarantee I'll lie.

/Stud
//Totally not a virgin
 
2012-06-22 05:42:06 PM
3 times 0 is still 0.

:(
 
2012-06-22 05:48:10 PM
I have never lied about the number of women I've had sex with. Just two, and both of them, Christina Hendricks and Megan Fox, will back me up on this.
 
2012-06-22 05:50:08 PM

The Green Manalishi: How many guys are going to admit to not getting laid in months/years? Exactly zero. How many guys will multiply the number of partners they've had to make them look like complete studs? Approx. 99.99%. Hell, if some random survey guy asks me a question like that, I guarantee I'll lie.


This is assuming that 99.99% of men still have egos as frail as when they were teenagers. I don't believe most guys over 35 feel insecure about the number of women they have slept with.
 
2012-06-22 05:54:20 PM

The Green Manalishi: How many guys are going to admit to not getting laid in months/years? Exactly zero. How many guys will multiply the number of partners they've had to make them look like complete studs? Approx. 99.99%. Hell, if some random survey guy asks me a question like that, I guarantee I'll lie.


I'd have no reason to lie. And I haven't slept with that many women. I've always liked the ease of getting laid in a long-term relationship.
 
2012-06-22 05:54:29 PM
The article does report the medians for both men and women. Since they report sex partners, I suspect the gay male population skews the results. I lived in the SF Bay area for a decade. If the live styles several of my gay friends were any indication (and even within a close order of magnitude of the truth), it wasn't unusual for them to have sex with more partners in a month than I'd had in my life. Every encounter is 2x in the guy column and zero in the female.
 
2012-06-22 05:55:02 PM
Actual survey results:
Republican men have 3x as many sex partners as their wives.
 
2012-06-22 06:00:23 PM
I'm having sex with you right now, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2012-06-22 06:04:21 PM

downstairs: The Green Manalishi: How many guys are going to admit to not getting laid in months/years? Exactly zero. How many guys will multiply the number of partners they've had to make them look like complete studs? Approx. 99.99%. Hell, if some random survey guy asks me a question like that, I guarantee I'll lie.

I'd have no reason to lie. And I haven't slept with that many women. I've always liked the ease of getting laid in a long-term relationship.


This frank honesty is depressing. Where are all the sharp-knees/gym in 26 minutes guys? This is Fark, isn't it?
 
2012-06-22 06:11:17 PM

MayoSlather: The Green Manalishi: How many guys are going to admit to not getting laid in months/years? Exactly zero. How many guys will multiply the number of partners they've had to make them look like complete studs? Approx. 99.99%. Hell, if some random survey guy asks me a question like that, I guarantee I'll lie.

This is assuming that 99.99% of men still have egos as frail as when they were teenagers. I don't believe most guys over 35 feel insecure about the number of women they have slept with.


I'm willing to bet real money that if a man has only had 0-2 sexual partners, he is very likely to lie. Maybe not 99.99%, but there are lots of frail egos out there. Even if they've had more experience, many would still not be truthful...it's a very intimate thing that many wouldn't divulge.
 
2012-06-22 06:15:08 PM
Yet women have 3x the STD infection rate.

Damn you mathematics.
 
2012-06-22 06:18:57 PM
I'm saving myself for my one true love. Xardox, Destroyer of Worlds.

*sigh*
 
2012-06-22 06:26:12 PM

theurge14: 3 times 0 is still 0.

:(


dtdstudios.com
 
2012-06-22 06:35:29 PM
Mean, median, mode.
 
2012-06-22 06:43:52 PM
It's actually pretty simple.

Men multiply their number, and women divide. Pretty much, most folks lie on this sort of survey.
 
2012-06-22 06:49:51 PM
dtdstudios.com
 
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