SultanofSchwing: URAPNIS: Genevieve Marie: Yea, I hate it. Cannot stand it when I'm trying to go about my day and some guy needs to make sure that I know he's staring at my ass. It doesn't make me feel good, it makes me feel uncomfortable with my surroundings.

Same here.

So your problem is that you don't like the thought that someone found you attractive?

Sounds to me like a man staring at your ass is the least of your issues...

No, the problem is I don't know what else that man is willing to do if he can't even filter what's coming out of his face.

Troublesome Strumpet: Looks like we're going green. Cue the clueless farktards in 3. . . 2. . .

Yes, because that extra 5 bucks a month you spend to read poop threads or "What are you having for lunch" makes you a goddamn genius.

Is there a petition to keep the sign?

What I find offensive is that somebody took the time to start a survey to ban something they don't have to look at.

Modern society has completely wrung out that last vestiges of the female sense of humor.

Troublesome Strumpet: I take it subby isn't a woman who's been harassed on the street.

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Digital Communist: Big Man On Campus: What nonsense, how can a billboard possibly improve the self esteem in women? Are women really that simple? If so, I've got wallpaper I want to sell to newly married men.

There is nothing that can make some people happy. They would complain if the sign wasn't there if they had nothing better to whine about.

There is a double standard and the only option is to apologize for whatever the perceived and imagined insult of the day is, and carry on.

No, the only option is to keep your damn opinions to yourself when you see an attractive woman on the street.

Dr. Goldshnoz: Yes, it does. girls dress like hos because they like being looked at. if you didn't like being looked at, you wouldn't show so much and you would dress more appropriately.

You've got to be trolling. Seriously. So much ignorance in everything you've posted here, and I usually find you intelligent and funny.

Why whistle and cat call at all, though? Aren't you capable of having a look at a nice ass passing by without announcing it? Is subtlety that difficult a concept?

She needs to stop being so sensitive, know her role, and get back in the kitchen.

The My Little Pony Killer: No, the problem is I don't know what else that man is willing to do if he can't even filter what's coming out of his face.

So, every male who catcalls, whistles, or stares at you for any indeterminate amount of time has a very high potential to be a rapist. Got it.

Women are guilty of this same shiat. Typical double standard.

SultanofSchwing: URAPNIS: Genevieve Marie: Yea, I hate it. Cannot stand it when I'm trying to go about my day and some guy needs to make sure that I know he's staring at my ass. It doesn't make me feel good, it makes me feel uncomfortable with my surroundings.

Same here.

So your problem is that you don't like the thought that someone found you attractive?

Sounds to me like a man staring at your ass is the least of your issues...

Oh, I've got issues.
You don't know the half of it.

namegoeshere: Why whistle and cat call at all, though? Aren't you capable of having a look at a nice ass passing by without announcing it? Is subtlety that difficult a concept?

SO MUCH THIS. When you catcall and whistle at women, you're letting them know that you have POOR IMPULSE CONTROL, which is something a lot of people DON'T find attractive for obvious reasons.

If you ABSOLUTELY MUST say anything at all, you could try introducing yourself to her and putting her on a human level, don't turn her into some object that you feel some right to just because of how she's dressed or where she's walking.

Digital Communist: There is a double standard and the only option is to apologize for whatever the perceived and imagined insult of the day is, and carry on.

Ok, I'll bite. What "double standard" do you think is going on here?

Troublesome Strumpet: I take it subby isn't a woman who's been harassed on the street.

No, can't say say I am or that I have. But the idea that this billboard harassing someone, the initiator invoking "won't somebody think of the children?" and the online petition...welcome to Fark.

SultanofSchwing: The My Little Pony Killer: No, the problem is I don't know what else that man is willing to do if he can't even filter what's coming out of his face.

So, every male who catcalls, whistles, or stares at you for any indeterminate amount of time has a very high potential to be a rapist. Got it.

Yes, he's showing me that he's got very poor impulse control. It wouldn't happen if he'd use his brain for long enough to realize that the person in the dress is a HUMAN FARKING BEING.

Grobbley: Women are guilty of this same shiat. Typical double standard.

Citation.

The My Little Pony Killer: Dr. Goldshnoz: Is it really harassment if you whistle at a beautiful woman? not saying i do it, not saying its mature or intellectual, but something tells me the kind of frigid person that gets their panties in a twist over this isn't getting whistled at to begin with, so whats the problem exactly?

The problem is that it's not a compliment in the eyes of the women that you're doing it to, no matter how much you really really want it to be, so knock it off. Women are not eye candy, they're not dressed up to get attention from you, they simply want to go about their day. Let them.

This just in, The My Little Pony Killer speaks for all women.

/I've had plenty of women give me positive reactions when I indicate that they are beautiful. Surprisingly enough, not all women are biatches all of the time.
//I understand if you don't like it, just ignore it and move on, or remove the stick from your ass and take a compliment instead of throwing a fit

Dr. Goldshnoz 2012-06-22 01:58:54 PM

Genevieve Marie: The My Little Pony Killer: Seriously. Just because AbbeySomeone found it okay doesn't mean that the rest of the women who put up with that crap have to.

/boy, am I glad AbbeySomeone doesn't speak for all women

Yea, I hate it. Cannot stand it when I'm trying to go about my day and some guy needs to make sure that I know he's staring at my ass. It doesn't make me feel good, it makes me feel uncomfortable with my surroundings.

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Then stop wearing these, dumbass.

No matter what a woman wears (or doesn't wear) - does not give you the right to comment on attire, heckle her, compliment her or whistle at her.

Just mind your own damned business and keep your eyes, hands and comments to yourself.

Genevieve Marie: The My Little Pony Killer: Seriously. And it makes me then plan out ways that I can avoid being in that particular area ever again. I could give a rat's ass about your intentions when the actual action that you take makes me feel like I need to go home, shower, and throw on a burqa.

Yup. I've done that so many times- altered my routes walking around to avoid areas where I know guys that like to catcall hangout. It makes me feel like prey, and it's scary and awful in ways that a lot of men don't bother to even try and understand.

Grobbley: I think a woman who is offended by a man whistling at her in a way that indicates he's attracted to her is probably more of a douchebag than the guy whistling.

Yes, because having our own thoughts and routines interrupted so that someone we don't know whose attention we didn't seek can let us know that he finds us sufficiently farkable is something we should enjoy.

Do you think you are the only ones who ever feel uncomfortable or insecure in public? Do you think it would be fun if everyone made a big production about how those particular situations made them feel uncomfortable and the world should descend on them to fix it?

The Bunyip: Troublesome Strumpet: I take it subby isn't a woman who's been harassed on the street.

No, can't say say I am or that I have. But the idea that this billboard harassing someone, the initiator invoking "won't somebody think of the children?" and the online petition...welcome to Fark.

Welcome to the real world, where you do not own a woman's reaction nor do you hold the permission for how she can react when you decide to show poor impulse control by yelling or whistling at her on the street.

The My Little Pony Killer: namegoeshere: Why whistle and cat call at all, though? Aren't you capable of having a look at a nice ass passing by without announcing it? Is subtlety that difficult a concept?

SO MUCH THIS. When you catcall and whistle at women, you're letting them know that you have POOR IMPULSE CONTROL, which is something a lot of people DON'T find attractive for obvious reasons.

If you ABSOLUTELY MUST say anything at all, you could try introducing yourself to her and putting her on a human level, don't turn her into some object that you feel some right to just because of how she's dressed or where she's walking.

Or how much she's charging or what her "man" says that she'll do in your car for you...

The My Little Pony Killer: Dr. Goldshnoz: Genevieve Marie: The My Little Pony Killer: Seriously. Just because AbbeySomeone found it okay doesn't mean that the rest of the women who put up with that crap have to.

/boy, am I glad AbbeySomeone doesn't speak for all women

Yea, I hate it. Cannot stand it when I'm trying to go about my day and some guy needs to make sure that I know he's staring at my ass. It doesn't make me feel good, it makes me feel uncomfortable with my surroundings.

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Then stop wearing these, dumbass.

Doesn't matter what somebody is wearing, dumbass.

Lulz. That's so adorable.

Grobbley: Women are guilty of this same shiat. Typical double standard.

I admit I love a nice male ass in a faded pair of levis. Yeah, you bet I look. Subtly. I would never openly ogle. Because it's rude and classless. And I wouldn't ever whistle or cat call a stranger. Because, ick.

The My Little Pony Killer: Dr. Goldshnoz: Is it really harassment if you whistle at a beautiful woman? not saying i do it, not saying its mature or intellectual, but something tells me the kind of frigid person that gets their panties in a twist over this isn't getting whistled at to begin with, so whats the problem exactly?

The problem is that it's not a compliment in the eyes of the women that you're doing it to, no matter how much you really really want it to be, so knock it off. Women are not eye candy, they're not dressed up to get attention from you, they simply want to go about their day. Let them.

This. It's obnoxious. To be fair, I never get whistled at. My friends do. I assume that means I don't get an opinion, yes?

SultanofSchwing: URAPNIS: Genevieve Marie: Yea, I hate it. Cannot stand it when I'm trying to go about my day and some guy needs to make sure that I know he's staring at my ass. It doesn't make me feel good, it makes me feel uncomfortable with my surroundings.

Same here.

So your problem is that you don't like the thought that someone found you attractive?

Sounds to me like a man staring at your ass is the least of your issues...


No, your problem is that you're an entitled ass-hat who thinks that all women everywhere live only to serve people with penises.

Why the fark do men think women want to hear it if you think we're hot? We're not going to sleep with you. And it doesn't make us happy to know that you want to fark us. It makes us sick.

It's really not to much to ask to have men keep their horny thoughts to themselves. FFS.

Grobbley: The My Little Pony Killer: Dr. Goldshnoz: Is it really harassment if you whistle at a beautiful woman? not saying i do it, not saying its mature or intellectual, but something tells me the kind of frigid person that gets their panties in a twist over this isn't getting whistled at to begin with, so whats the problem exactly?

The problem is that it's not a compliment in the eyes of the women that you're doing it to, no matter how much you really really want it to be, so knock it off. Women are not eye candy, they're not dressed up to get attention from you, they simply want to go about their day. Let them.

This just in, The My Little Pony Killer speaks for all women.

/I've had plenty of women give me positive reactions when I indicate that they are beautiful. Surprisingly enough, not all women are biatches all of the time.
//I understand if you don't like it, just ignore it and move on, or remove the stick from your ass and take a compliment instead of throwing a fit

It's not a compliment though, and I refuse to take it as such just because it makes you feel bad (you poor farking baby) or just because other women don't rightfully put you in your place. Girls are brought up from a very young age to be NICE to everybody, so I'm not surprised that you somehow think that their "acceptance" of your "compliment" makes you think that you somehow have a right to act like an animal in public. I'm not a biatch just because I find you slimey, you're the asshole who initiated the situation in the first place.

And no, I will not just ignore it and move on, because as I said earlier, it makes pieces of shiat like you think that what you are doing is okay, when it is ANYTHING but.

Hermione_Granger: No matter what a woman wears (or doesn't wear) - does not give you the right to comment on attire, heckle her, compliment her or whistle at her.

Just mind your own damned business and keep your eyes, hands and comments to yourself.

Finally, I no longer have to compliment my wife. Thank you for this.

The My Little Pony Killer: SultanofSchwing: The My Little Pony Killer: No, the problem is I don't know what else that man is willing to do if he can't even filter what's coming out of his face.

So, every male who catcalls, whistles, or stares at you for any indeterminate amount of time has a very high potential to be a rapist. Got it.

Yes, he's showing me that he's got very poor impulse control. It wouldn't happen if he'd use his brain for long enough to realize that the person in the dress is a HUMAN FARKING BEING.

I'm pretty sure they do realize that. Since the same outfit on an Orangutan would be unlikely to produce the same reaction.

ciberido: Digital Communist: There is a double standard and the only option is to apologize for whatever the perceived and imagined insult of the day is, and carry on.

Ok, I'll bite. What "double standard" do you think is going on here?

Point in case, the mural FTA was removed because it was offensive to women, never mind the fact that it makes men all seem like jeering neanderthals.

If a man complained that a woman said something to the effect of "You look nice today" he would be summarily dismissed. If a woman complains, we get a fark thread.

I've always found this to be rather boorish:

Grobbley: Troublesome Strumpet: Yeah, not everyone likes it, and not everyone understands that there's a line between "You look nice today" and "Woo baby I wanna tap that! Hey, where you going? What, too good to talk to me? biatch!"

Here's a question, do you think it's offensive if it stops at "Woo baby I wanna tap that!"? Because the sign in question doesn't give the impression that the construction workers are being douchebags, it is simply referring to the act of whistling. I think a woman who is offended by a man whistling at her in a way that indicates he's attracted to her is probably more of a douchebag than the guy whistling.

But I will certainly agree that if it turns into "Hey, where you going? What, too good to talk to me? biatch!" it's well beyond inappropriate. But those words even without the whistling would be inappropriate.

The guy doing the whistling is doing it in front of other men, and for the benefit of his position in his peer group. It is a male-bonding ritual at the expense of the woman. It is not a date-getting strategy.

So... boosting womens' self esteem by putting their worth in terms of appearance alone and denigrating the entire construction profession. Yeah, that's clearly a great sign that's doing wonders for civility and sexual equality.

Digital Communist: There is a double standard and the only option is to apologize for whatever the perceived and imagined insult of the day is, and carry on.

Is there? I've gotten catcalls from cougars who'd seen a bit too much Sex + the City or something, and I'm not even particularly attractive (or maybe I am and just ain't wired to notice it). There's your women acting boorish and me stereotyping an entire demographic, seems fairly on par with me.

Basically the only way to not deal with mild harassment in an urban environment is to never be over the age of 12 or under the age of 35. If you're 12-17 cop and shop owners will harass you on the assumption you're stealing or planning to steal something at all time, at 18-25 you're considered as an object of sexual desire above your other qualities by default (for example, you'll be judged a lot harder for being fat) and from 25-35 old people will harass you at random from a combination of feeling their generation was better and that they're entitled to your material aid at random because you "owe them" (if you say "for what? a polluted biosphere, a crashed economy, and overtly religious politicians trying to destroy the country's essential liberties?" that's apparently being rude).

Summary: move to the suburbs or a high-income rural area or suck it up and deal. The rest of the 95% of humanity that lives in the city has to deal with the 10% of people that are annoying, obtrusive or outright assholes on a daily basis as well, instead of putting up posters and writing op-eds about it how about you do what the rest of us do and complain to your elderly parents? After all, things were better when they were your age, and you owe them for bringing you into the world for some reason apparently.

Digital Communist: Do you think you are the only ones who ever feel uncomfortable or insecure in public? Do you think it would be fun if everyone made a big production about how those particular situations made them feel uncomfortable and the world should descend on them to fix it?

Oh, I'm sorry, are you being whistled at and called a prude when you ignore it? Are you followed and harassed just because you chose to get up, get dressed, and go out into the world today?

No?

Then STFU about how other people react to being treated like that. Or at least quit acting so shocked when people don't like it and vocally object.

/it's not about "fun"
//it's about going about my day without HARASSMENT.

Where's my goddam sammich, women?!?!

/ducks & covers

Nynaeve224: SultanofSchwing: URAPNIS: Genevieve Marie: Yea, I hate it. Cannot stand it when I'm trying to go about my day and some guy needs to make sure that I know he's staring at my ass. It doesn't make me feel good, it makes me feel uncomfortable with my surroundings.

Same here.

So your problem is that you don't like the thought that someone found you attractive?

Sounds to me like a man staring at your ass is the least of your issues...


No, your problem is that you're an entitled ass-hat who thinks that all women everywhere live only to serve people with penises.

Why the fark do men think women want to hear it if you think we're hot? We're not going to sleep with you. And it doesn't make us happy to know that you want to fark us. It makes us sick.

It's really not to much to ask to have men keep their horny thoughts to themselves. FFS.

I'm sorry that you're under the assumption I sit on my deck whistling at everything that walks by. I'm also sorry that you're an overzealous hosebeast.

Dr. Goldshnoz: The My Little Pony Killer: Dr. Goldshnoz: Yes, it does. girls dress like hos because they like being looked at. if you didn't like being looked at, you wouldn't show so much and you would dress more appropriately.

You've got to be trolling. Seriously. So much ignorance in everything you've posted here, and I usually find you intelligent and funny.

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Only half-troll. Seriously, if someone bugs you, tell them to stop and grow up, but don't go around trying to speak for ALL women as hating attention to their beauty and needing to not "put up" with it, because its a farce.

And when someone objects to the way that you choose to treat them, you stop treating them as such, you don't throw a victim party and act injured about it. Nor do you turn around and harass them further because you're mad.

It's best that men treats women they see on the street like dog shiats on the sidewalk. Ignore and avoid them with indifference.