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(LA Times)   Helicopter parents decide to open fire after their snowflake was passed over for valedictorian   (latimesblogs.latimes.com) divider line 247
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2012-06-22 12:25:15 PM
Imagine busting your ass to get straight A's for four years and then learning that your parents think you're a "loser."
 
2012-06-22 12:27:01 PM
She didn't have the highest gpa, but thinks she should be valedictorian? Give that Stanford scholarship and NASA internship to someone less whiny.
 
2012-06-22 12:28:12 PM
But according to Eagle Rock Patch, she had only a 4.50 weighted GPA after the first semester of her senior year, one notch below Eagle Rock High's Jasmine Fernandez, who managed a 4.55.

"It's flawed. It's wrong," Carol told The Times. "All her hard work is not being recognized. All she had was straight A's. Not a B, ever."

If you can't do simple math, you shouldn't be a parent. This is a non-story and the parents should be fired out of a cannon into the sun.
 
2012-06-22 12:48:19 PM
Dear Helicopter Parents;

4.55 is bigger than 4.50.

Yours sincerely,
LAUSD
 
2012-06-22 12:50:12 PM
..yes, because fark learning. the only benefit of all that hard work and education is earning a title that no one will give even a single fark about in 2 years.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2012-06-22 01:34:44 PM

leftteffticle: ..yes, because fark learning. the only benefit of all that hard work and education is earning a title that no one will give even a single fark about in 2 years.


Not true. The parents don't get to brag at dinner parties. They'd have gotten years of mileage for her earning "valedictorian", and now they have to settle. Perhaps they're worried that their friends are too stupid to know what a salutatorian is and why being second out of 3,000 is still pretty damn awesome?
 
2012-06-22 01:41:33 PM

leftteffticle: ..yes, because fark learning. the only benefit of all that hard work and education is earning a title that no one will give even a single fark about in 2 years.


FTFM
 
2012-06-22 01:43:32 PM

scottydoesntknow:
If you can't do simple math, you shouldn't be a parent. This is a non-story and the parents should be fired out of a cannon into the sun.


Well, they're claiming that their daughter was not allowed to take AP classes as freshman, which would presumably (the FA doesn't say) have given her an equal or superior GPA. They claim she was a victim of the process, not of her performance.

However, you are correct that this is a non-story, because:

leftteffticle: no one will give even a single fark about in 2 years.


This. Her high school years will hopefully not be her peak.
 
2012-06-22 02:01:32 PM
I have a B to an 8th grade honors student a while back. Let me clarify--the student earned her B. Very smart kid, who got a little lazy at the end of the first semester.

The parents went ballistic and we had no less than three meetings with all manner of administrators present. I asked the dad why he was so upset about it. He said, "She's never had a B in her life. You've ruined a perfect record and this will likely cost her a college scholarship."

My boss didn't appreciate me laughing at the parent.
 
2012-06-22 02:02:19 PM
have = gave.

Should drink more coffee before I type.
 
2012-06-22 02:33:29 PM
4.55 > 4.50

Math is hard, lets go shopping.
 
2012-06-22 02:35:16 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Imagine busting your ass to get straight A's for four years and then learning that your parents think you're a "loser."


Exactly what I was thinking. Holy crap, these people have a hard-working, smart, successful kid, and I'll bet anything that she has no self-confidence whatsoever.
 
2012-06-22 02:35:25 PM
arithmetic is racist or something shiat I don't know
 
2012-06-22 02:36:59 PM

larrycot: I have a B to an 8th grade honors student a while back. Let me clarify--the student earned her B. Very smart kid, who got a little lazy at the end of the first semester.

The parents went ballistic and we had no less than three meetings with all manner of administrators present. I asked the dad why he was so upset about it. He said, "She's never had a B in her life. You've ruined a perfect record and this will likely cost her a college scholarship."

My boss didn't appreciate me laughing at the parent.


You were probably doing the kid a favor. They need to learn life is not perfect. You don't get an A in everything regardless of the situation. Learning to deal with it will probably serve the kid better in life than any A she ever had.

/Also hope you punched the dad in the face and farked his wife.
 
2012-06-22 02:37:35 PM
My daughter got a B in math in 4th grade. I made her stick her hand in a bag of cobras as punishment, and guess what? She never got another B again.

because she died
 
2012-06-22 02:37:39 PM
Man, that sucks.. Imagine all the opportunities she will miss out on now?

Elisha Marquez has been accepted to Ivy League schools and is on her way to Stanford in the fall. The 18-year-old has already nabbed an engineering internship at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and earned a scholarship through the Gates Millennium Scholars program.

Oh wait, nevermind, she's got it made as it is..
 
2012-06-22 02:37:54 PM
I'm more worried that she needed "sleepless nights" to complete high school.

The years at NASA are going to suck for this chick.
 
2012-06-22 02:38:14 PM

larrycot: I have a B to an 8th grade honors student a while back. Let me clarify--the student earned her B. Very smart kid, who got a little lazy at the end of the first semester.

The parents went ballistic and we had no less than three meetings with all manner of administrators present. I asked the dad why he was so upset about it. He said, "She's never had a B in her life. You've ruined a perfect record and this will likely cost her a college scholarship."

My boss didn't appreciate me laughing at the parent.


Is that a true story? Because if it is, I love you for laughing at them.
 
2012-06-22 02:39:11 PM
"It's not my mistake," he added. "It's [the district's] mistake. At the end of the day the grades speak for themselves."

Yea.... and they're saying your kid is second best...
 
2012-06-22 02:39:25 PM
"And to Elisha's mother, Carol, the second-place finish means that her daughter's "sleepless nights" were essentially "for nothing."

Elisha Marquez has been accepted to Ivy League schools and is on her way to Stanford in the fall. The 18-year-old has already nabbed an engineering internship at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and earned a scholarship through the Gates Millennium Scholars program."


I think that Carol should look up the meaning of "nothing"
 
2012-06-22 02:40:12 PM
FTA: 18-year-old has already nabbed an engineering internship at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory

fffuuuuuu....I'm impressed.

She should tranq her parents and stow them on the next vehicle leaving the atmosphere.
 
2012-06-22 02:40:35 PM
Oh boo-farking-hoo She didn't have the highest of the school's vanity-sized GPA. STFUASD.

Snowflake indeed.
 
2012-06-22 02:40:53 PM
I'm surprised we haven't started making every kid valedictorian yet. The only way to instill healthy self esteem is to make accomplishment meaningless. I think we should call this program, "No Child Left Ahead"
 
2012-06-22 02:40:56 PM
"her daughter's "sleepless nights" were essentially "for nothing."

"on her way to Stanford in the fall. The 18-year-old has already nabbed an engineering internship at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and earned a scholarship through the Gates Millennium Scholars program." = "nothing"

"You don't want your kid to be a loser. That's what they're basically saying. Be a loser."


"Salutatorian" = "loser"

I hope she didn't study math with her parents.
/or logic.
//or maturity
 
2012-06-22 02:41:16 PM

darwinpolice: BarkingUnicorn: Imagine busting your ass to get straight A's for four years and then learning that your parents think you're a "loser."

Exactly what I was thinking. Holy crap, these people have a hard-working, smart, successful kid, and I'll bet anything that she has no self-confidence whatsoever.


Yeah. This takes black-and-white thinking up to eleven. Salutatorian = worthless?

But I'm curious about one thing. That her grades were perfect is not in dispute. She seems to have done this with a large load of classes that grant a GPA bump: honors/AP/IB/whatever. How, then, does someone have a higher GPA than her? Did the actual valedictorian take more GPA-boosting classes, for example?
 
2012-06-22 02:41:18 PM
Did we give the kid in GA a hero tag because of the whole thing that happened here.
 
2012-06-22 02:42:05 PM

foo monkey: She didn't have the highest gpa, but thinks she should be valedictorian? Give that Stanford scholarship and NASA internship to someone less whiny.


Probably just her parents whining, not the girl.
 
2012-06-22 02:42:44 PM
oblig
www.trolino.com
/you guys are slacking
 
2012-06-22 02:43:41 PM
"It's flawed. It's wrong," Carol told The Times. "All her hard work is not being recognized. All she had was straight A's. Not a B, ever."

Yes it is. They gave her the title of salutatorian.
 
2012-06-22 02:43:45 PM

Splinshints: Yea.... and they're saying your kid is second best...


Actually, the grades are saying to them that their kid is a loser.

Their kid will hopefully be living in the dorms in college; maybe that will give her some time to get away from her lunatic parents and get some perspective. Hopefully she is better grounded in reality then they are, else college and career years are going to be rough.
 
2012-06-22 02:43:47 PM
I pity this girl's college roommate.

//Been there
 
2012-06-22 02:43:57 PM

JackieRabbit: Oh boo-farking-hoo She didn't have the highest of the school's vanity-sized GPA. STFUASD.


Actually, their point is that she technically did. It's just that because of an odd set of circumstances beyond the family's control she wasn't the top GPA at the calculation cut-off date.

Basically, they're trying to teach their daughter that it doesn't matter how successful you actually are, if you're not an enormously whiny pain in everyone's ass who can't accept the inevitable small inconveniences that are a normal part of life with grace and humility you're not good enough.
 
2012-06-22 02:44:11 PM

darwinpolice: BarkingUnicorn: Imagine busting your ass to get straight A's for four years and then learning that your parents think you're a "loser."

Exactly what I was thinking. Holy crap, these people have a hard-working, smart, successful kid, and I'll bet anything that she has no self-confidence whatsoever.


It does seem very sad.

I would be thrilled, absolutely thrilled, if my child came out of high school even close to what this young lady has accomplished.
Yet the parents are acting like she failed because she wasn't granted a meaningless title for what amounts to a meaningless graduation.

Holy fark man. I wonder what would happen to her if she came back home her first semester of college with a god damned B in one of her classes.
 
2012-06-22 02:44:16 PM

scavenger: My daughter got a B in math in 4th grade. I made her stick her hand in a bag of cobras as punishment, and guess what? She never got another B again.

because she died


A mercy, because who would want to live with the dreadful shame of such an atrocious grade?

Also, now you can start over. Maybe the next kid will be smarter.
 
2012-06-22 02:44:25 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Imagine busting your ass to get straight A's for four years and then learning that your parents think you're a "loser."


THIS SO MUCH. Ahole dad is the term "loser" for daughter that was salutatorian, is going to Stanford, earned what I think is a full scholarship, and nabbed an engineering internship at JPL at such a young age?

Man - I ONLY got a $100 scholarship, was in NHS, and did grad work in flight control systems for Marshall Space Flight Center. My parents must be PISSED.
 
2012-06-22 02:44:28 PM
Helicopter + open fire =

kubrickfilms.tripod.com


first thing I thought of.
 
2012-06-22 02:44:34 PM

larrycot: I have a B to an 8th grade honors student a while back. Let me clarify--the student earned her B. Very smart kid, who got a little lazy at the end of the first semester.

The parents went ballistic and we had no less than three meetings with all manner of administrators present. I asked the dad why he was so upset about it. He said, "She's never had a B in her life. You've ruined a perfect record and this will likely cost her a college scholarship."

My boss didn't appreciate me laughing at the parent.


She may have to settle for Vassar
 
2012-06-22 02:44:53 PM
My daughter just graduated. The ceremony had 12 valedictorians and one salutatorian. All 12 got to speak for 90 seconds each.

Now, you might ask..were there 12 people with the exact same GPA? Of course not. They selected everyone in the top 1%. For some goddamn reason.

It seriously must have sucked to be that salutatorian.
 
2012-06-22 02:44:56 PM

Splinshints: "It's not my mistake," he added. "It's [the district's] mistake. At the end of the day the grades speak for themselves."

Yea.... and they're saying your kid is second best...


Somehow, I think most people will understand when you explain that your daughter was salutatorian because she only had a 4.500. Right after they punch you in the face for being upset about it.

"You're only a Supreme Court Justice? Not the Chief Justice? Loser"
"You didn't pitch the winning game of the World Series? Just the 3rd win? Loser"
etc.
 
2012-06-22 02:44:58 PM
At least they do a weighted mean, I graduated Valedictorian along with 8 other people who also had 4.0s. Yeah I felt real special.

/college was better, when I graduated I was selected as student of the year
//wish I was as good at finding jobs as I was at school
 
2012-06-22 02:44:59 PM
I like how my hs did it. They didn't just pick the kid with the top GPA. They took the top 10 students and factored in extracurricular activities, community involvement, etc.
 
2012-06-22 02:46:01 PM
And to Elisha's mother, Carol, the second-place finish means that her daughter's "sleepless nights" were essentially "for nothing."

"It's flawed. It's wrong," Carol told The Times. "All her hard work is not being recognized. All she had was straight A's. Not a B, ever."


Oh, fark off. You've ensured that your daughter will never be satisfied with anything, ever, because it's not the best possible outcome. Hope you didn't want grandkids, 'cause she'll never find a man who'll measure up. Although, it's probably a safe bet that grandkids don't want you.

/didn't know Marquez was an Asian name
 
2012-06-22 02:46:22 PM
Wow. Some parents just don't get it. Your kid(s) is/are special to YOU. They are not however, special to everyone else. A 4.50 GPA is nothing to laugh at. Your daughter is a very bright young woman, and hopefully will become a very successful and accomplished adult. Not getting named valedictorian of her HS class isn't going to leave her homeless, eating food from garbage cans in a year.

I graduated HS with a 4.45 GPA. Do you know who cares about that? Absolutely no one. I was valedictorian of my 8th grade class, with a perfect 4.0 GPA. Do you know who cares about that? Absolutely no one. I graduated from 8th grade 16 years ago and HS 12 years ago. Those nuggets of information don't help you get a job, or a higher credit rating, or secure a loan, or get a date, or whatever else it is you're trying to accomplish in life. It means you're good at memorizing shiat and then spitting it back verbatim in either essay form or on a multiple-choice test. My HS chemistry teacher told us the stuff we were learning was essential to life. I have not once had to balance a chemical equation or tell someone the atomic number for radium since.

TL;DR -- Your kid is going to do fine, quit embarrassing the fark out of her by acting all pissy pants that the accomplishments YOU wanted didn't happen, and be grateful you don't have a punk or an unwed teenage mother for a child.
 
2012-06-22 02:47:00 PM

eagles95: She may have to settle for Vassar


I've just about enough of your Vassar-bashing!
 
2012-06-22 02:48:02 PM

Bondith: /didn't know Marquez was an Asian name


It's Mandarin for "Please take my parents away and slap them silly. I need a beer."
 
2012-06-22 02:48:30 PM

Millennium: How, then, does someone have a higher GPA than her? Did the actual valedictorian take more GPA-boosting classes, for example?


AP classes that their kid couldn't join because the school their kid was in wasn't part of the program that offered them. It's in the article, but it's not terribly clear.

I'd say that's the parents' fault. Maybe if they weren't such slackasses they'd have caught that at the time and made the appropriate adjustments. Moved to a new house, say, to get into the other school. Seems to me this is all the parents' fault.
 
2012-06-22 02:49:13 PM
"They're not in the situation," he said. "You don't want your kid to be a loser. That's what they're basically saying. Be a loser.

Wow. What a dick.

www.bumperstickerz.com
 
2012-06-22 02:49:36 PM

Millennium: darwinpolice: BarkingUnicorn: Imagine busting your ass to get straight A's for four years and then learning that your parents think you're a "loser."

Exactly what I was thinking. Holy crap, these people have a hard-working, smart, successful kid, and I'll bet anything that she has no self-confidence whatsoever.

Yeah. This takes black-and-white thinking up to eleven. Salutatorian = worthless?

But I'm curious about one thing. That her grades were perfect is not in dispute. She seems to have done this with a large load of classes that grant a GPA bump: honors/AP/IB/whatever. How, then, does someone have a higher GPA than her? Did the actual valedictorian take more GPA-boosting classes, for example?


Most likely. I remember in my HS most AP classes had prerequisites. So If you wanted to take AP Trig, for example, you had to have taken AP Geometry. They aren't evenly distributed so some paths meant you could take more AP classes than others. The valedictorian probably was able to get into one or two more AP classes than the salutatorian.
 
2012-06-22 02:51:20 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Imagine busting your ass to get straight A's for four years and then learning that your parents think you're a "loser."


And done.
 
2012-06-22 02:52:32 PM

Enormous-Schwanstucker: Helicopter + open fire =

[kubrickfilms.tripod.com image 640x416]


first thing I thought of.


In a thread a few months ago about mom & dad *actually* opening fire on someone (the Facebook defriending neighbor?), another Farker coined the term "Apache helicopter parent". I have used that shamelessly on many an occasion.
 
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