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2012-06-22 12:16:40 PM
It's the day the Isles are most relevant!

I wouldn't mind some Ryan Murray action if he makes it to 4. We need some D. Though really I'm ok with the best player available strategy since D is definitely not the only issue with this team.
 
2012-06-22 12:36:47 PM
Yakupov or bust!

FreakinB: It's the day the Isles are most relevant!

I wouldn't mind some Ryan Murray action if he makes it to 4. We need some D. Though really I'm ok with the best player available strategy since D is definitely not the only issue with this team.


he won't make it past Columbus. Everything I've seen is that they farking love that kid at #2.

There's a lot of talk that the Oilers will try and get another top-10 pick though, that'll make things interesting.
 
2012-06-22 01:14:03 PM
Scott Howson continues to "run" the Bluejackets and attempts to solve their goaltending issues by trading a 2nd and 2 fourths to Philly for Bobrovsky.


Source
 
2012-06-22 01:20:54 PM
God damn, the NHL should cap the number of consecutive #1 picks. It's not as if it's doing the Oilers any good now is it?
 
2012-06-22 01:24:23 PM

germ78: God damn, the NHL should cap the number of consecutive #1 picks. It's not as if it's doing the Oilers any good now is it?


Sooner or later the Hall/RNH/Eberle line is going to score 130 goals between them, and Edmonton will have a fighting chance at reaching .500. You just watch.
 
2012-06-22 04:27:20 PM
Sabres have 4 picks in the first two rounds (#12, #21, #42 and #44).

Would love to see them package some of their wealth of high picks. Either to move up into the top 5, or more preferably, as part of a larger deal to acquire a roster player, particularly a center.
 
2012-06-22 04:31:16 PM
Did everyone enjoy the Nickleback concert the other night?
 
2012-06-22 04:35:29 PM

CanadianCommie: Yakupov or bust!

FreakinB: It's the day the Isles are most relevant!

I wouldn't mind some Ryan Murray action if he makes it to 4. We need some D. Though really I'm ok with the best player available strategy since D is definitely not the only issue with this team.

he won't make it past Columbus. Everything I've seen is that they farking love that kid at #2.


That can definitely happen. I was talking to my friend and he mentioned the possibility of packaging the pick in a trade for an established defenseman, or trading back a bit. We'll see.
 
2012-06-22 04:36:03 PM
best nhl news of the year: High chance that Arizona voters in November will decide in a referendum whether they basically keep Coyotes in Phoenix or they get sold and moved
 
2012-06-22 04:45:34 PM
This guy seems to have legit sources the last few years so maybe its true

@Eklund: Rumor I was told was the Bobrovsky trade by Columbus was because the Jackets lost out on Luongo to Toronto. Take it for what it's worth...
 
2012-06-22 04:45:49 PM

soopey: Did everyone enjoy the Nickleback concert the other night?


I wouldn't be surprised to see the NHL trot them out for a song between the 4th and 5th pick tonight.
 
2012-06-22 04:50:07 PM
If Luongo does go to Toronto, it will be interesting to see what the Leafs send to Vancouver or if it will essentially just be a salary dump.

Why the hell would Luongo want to play in Toronto anyway? I can't imagine that the constant pressure and media glare will do him any good, given that he has experience of collapsing in that environment.
 
2012-06-22 04:51:07 PM
What are the odds that the Leafs fark up yet again?
 
2012-06-22 04:51:31 PM
Ottawa is pushing hard for Parise
 
2012-06-22 04:52:16 PM

ontariolightning: @Eklund: Rumor I was told was the Bobrovsky trade by Columbus was because the Jackets lost out on Luongo to Toronto. Take it for what it's worth...


Because if there's anyone who can navigate the Maple Leafs dysfunctional organization and rally the locker room around him, it's Roberto Luongo.
 
2012-06-22 04:52:41 PM
Pretty quiet so far, except for Howson being Howson.
 
2012-06-22 04:53:14 PM

I_Love_Cheesecake: If Luongo does go to Toronto, it will be interesting to see what the Leafs send to Vancouver or if it will essentially just be a salary dump.

Why the hell would Luongo want to play in Toronto anyway? I can't imagine that the constant pressure and media glare will do him any good, given that he has experience of collapsing in that environment.


I agree with the pressure. Other than Montreal, Toronto is the worst market for pressure. If he thought Vancouver was bad it will be 10 times worse.
 
2012-06-22 04:56:50 PM
Oilers? They've been called the Titans for 12 or 14 years now. Geeze, get with the times!
 
2012-06-22 04:59:12 PM
Heard a rumor that a deal of Bobby Ryan + Jonas Hiller in exchange for Ryan Miller was basically finalized last November, but got derailed at the last moment when Miller got concussed by Lucic.

Now that Bobby Ryan is apparently back on trade market, I wonder if Buffalo and Anaheim would still be interested in working out a trade.
 
2012-06-22 05:03:13 PM

Doc Daneeka: Heard a rumor that a deal of Bobby Ryan + Jonas Hiller in exchange for Ryan Miller was basically finalized last November, but got derailed at the last moment when Miller got concussed by Lucic.

Now that Bobby Ryan is apparently back on trade market, I wonder if Buffalo and Anaheim would still be interested in working out a trade.


Miller isn't worth Ryan & Hiller anymore

maybe Hiller alone but both? That is crazy
 
2012-06-22 05:06:17 PM

ontariolightning: Doc Daneeka: Heard a rumor that a deal of Bobby Ryan + Jonas Hiller in exchange for Ryan Miller was basically finalized last November, but got derailed at the last moment when Miller got concussed by Lucic.

Now that Bobby Ryan is apparently back on trade market, I wonder if Buffalo and Anaheim would still be interested in working out a trade.

Miller isn't worth Ryan & Hiller anymore

maybe Hiller alone but both? That is crazy


Buffalo's interest would be in getting Ryan. They wouldn't be interested in Hiller alone.

And make no mistake, Miller still has high trade value. He had bad numbers this season while still recovering from his concussion. After fully recovered, he was back to form playing as one of the top five goalies in the league. Check out his stats from the All-Star Game to the end of the season.
 
2012-06-22 05:15:08 PM

Doc Daneeka: ontariolightning: Doc Daneeka: Heard a rumor that a deal of Bobby Ryan + Jonas Hiller in exchange for Ryan Miller was basically finalized last November, but got derailed at the last moment when Miller got concussed by Lucic.

Now that Bobby Ryan is apparently back on trade market, I wonder if Buffalo and Anaheim would still be interested in working out a trade.

Miller isn't worth Ryan & Hiller anymore

maybe Hiller alone but both? That is crazy

Buffalo's interest would be in getting Ryan. They wouldn't be interested in Hiller alone.

And make no mistake, Miller still has high trade value. He had bad numbers this season while still recovering from his concussion. After fully recovered, he was back to form playing as one of the top five goalies in the league. Check out his stats from the All-Star Game to the end of the season.


yes but if you look at his overall stats and difference between wins/losses he is on a downturn as he gets older

I still think giving up Ryan for a goalie whos best days are past him is not a good idea, plus the west would eat him up i believe, the west is tougher on goalies than the east, itd be like facing a lucic every night ready to run you over
 
2012-06-22 05:15:10 PM
Flames are trying to deal Bouwmeester.

LOL!

Good luck with that contract.

FAN960 was saying the Flames should make a bid for Jagr.

media.tumblr.com
 
2012-06-22 05:15:13 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Jordan Staal?

I heard earlier this morning that he declined a ten year contract offer by the Penguins.
 
2012-06-22 05:16:20 PM

geom_00: Has anyone heard anything about Jordan Staal?

I heard earlier this morning that he declined a ten year contract offer by the Penguins.


all i heard is Carolina cause he wants to play with his brother
 
2012-06-22 05:19:25 PM

ontariolightning: Carolina cause he wants to play with his brother


I was hearing the same thing. Something to the effect for Staal for Sutter??
 
2012-06-22 05:20:02 PM
Curious to find out how GMMG will blow this Luongo/Schneider situation.
 
2012-06-22 05:22:18 PM

geom_00: ontariolightning: Carolina cause he wants to play with his brother

I was hearing the same thing. Something to the effect for Staal for Sutter??


I heard the same thing

I would love to have Staal on Toronto to centre Lupul and Kessel
that would be an epic line
 
2012-06-22 05:23:08 PM

Rev.K: Flames are trying to deal Bouwmeester.

LOL!

Good luck with that contract.


Trade him here! Cap's not an issue; if anything we need to worry about making the floor.

/only half-kidding
 
2012-06-22 05:24:26 PM

I_Love_Cheesecake: If Luongo does go to Toronto, it will be interesting to see what the Leafs send to Vancouver or if it will essentially just be a salary dump.


It's not going to happen. Luongo wants to be near the wifes family and there is no way the Leafs are taking on that kind of insane contract.

Speaking of ridiculous rumors, everyone in Ottawa is currently wrecking their pants thinking they're going to land Rick Nash for Zibanijad, Foligno and a goalie(rumored to be Bishop).
 
2012-06-22 05:26:05 PM

Rev.K: Flames are trying to deal Bouwmeester.

LOL!

Good luck with that contract.


What if they sweeten the deal by throwing in Stajan?
 
2012-06-22 05:29:17 PM
Tim Thomas waives his No Trade clause.
 
2012-06-22 05:30:05 PM
A FYI on the US TV coverage:

Due to NBC Sports covering US Olympic Trials, the Draft goes to NHL Network and CNBC at 9pm EDT.

/I think I'll have time to get dinner before my team picks
//unless they trade up
 
2012-06-22 05:30:35 PM

ontariolightning: I would love to have Staal on Toronto to centre Lupul and Kessel


That would be epic...but this yinzer wants him to stay here though.

Don't think he will though.
 
2012-06-22 05:30:53 PM

4NSpy: Tim Thomas waives his No Trade clause.


Trade him to Dallas. His politics would fit in well there.
 
2012-06-22 05:32:29 PM
Oh shiat, Vancouver is going to revolutionize how teams draft players with this new strategy:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-22 05:32:42 PM

ontariolightning: geom_00: Has anyone heard anything about Jordan Staal?

I heard earlier this morning that he declined a ten year contract offer by the Penguins.

all i heard is Carolina cause he wants to play with his brother


I heard Staal wants to go someplace where he would be higher on the depth chart than #3 center.

Which he's never going to be playing behing Crosby and Malkin.
 
2012-06-22 05:35:23 PM

4NSpy: Tim Thomas waives his No Trade clause.


Oh hai there Columbus, how you feeling now?
 
2012-06-22 05:37:41 PM

Doc Daneeka: I heard Staal wants to go someplace where he would be higher on the depth chart than #3 center.

Which he's never going to be playing behing Crosby and Malkin


You hear that, Garth?! Here's your 2nd-line center!

/No chance
//I love Frans, but he's no 2nd-line center
///At least not on a team that's going to go very far
 
2012-06-22 05:41:28 PM

4NSpy: Tim Thomas waives his No Trade clause.


Does that matter if he's still planning to take the year off? Or was that just a ploy? In any event, thanks for helping the Bruins get the Cup last year, but good riddance to you, moronic teabagger.

/Tuukka time!

Flappyhead: It's not going to happen. Luongo wants to be near the wifes family and there is no way the Leafs are taking on that kind of insane contract.


What about Tampa Bay? The Lightning desperately need a goaltender.
 
2012-06-22 05:43:13 PM
There's a ton of rumours flying around but it's a little light on action thus far.


I personally think that the Oilers are farking with everyone making it seem like they're going to pick Murray; this is despite the fact that the Oilers have been consistent in picking BPA regardless of position. They picked Hall over Seguin despite needing a centre and they picked RNH because they figured he'd be the best.

Yakupov may be a winger but he's by and large the BPA. Murray may be the most NHL-ready but that doesn't make him the best.
 
2012-06-22 05:46:39 PM

I_Love_Cheesecake:
Flappyhead: It's not going to happen. Luongo wants to be near the wifes family and there is no way the Leafs are taking on that kind of insane contract.

What about Tampa Bay? The Lightning desperately need a goaltender.


That's the most likely one. Tampa also has a glut of young prospects so parting with one or two wouldn't be very damaging long term. Some folks I know have thrown around Luongo for Lecavalier straight up but I don't see two contracts of that size getting swapped(although if Luongo does land in T-Bay I think Vinnys days are numbered).
 
2012-06-22 05:50:24 PM

Flappyhead: That's the most likely one. Tampa also has a glut of young prospects so parting with one or two wouldn't be very damaging long term. Some folks I know have thrown around Luongo for Lecavalier straight up but I don't see two contracts of that size getting swapped(although if Luongo does land in T-Bay I think Vinnys days are numbered).


I don't know, lots of people saying the Luongo/Toronto deal is done and they are just waiting to make it official.
 
2012-06-22 05:53:53 PM

4NSpy: Flappyhead: That's the most likely one. Tampa also has a glut of young prospects so parting with one or two wouldn't be very damaging long term. Some folks I know have thrown around Luongo for Lecavalier straight up but I don't see two contracts of that size getting swapped(although if Luongo does land in T-Bay I think Vinnys days are numbered).

I don't know, lots of people saying the Luongo/Toronto deal is done and they are just waiting to make it official.


If it does happen I may very well deliver a Fist of the North Star level facepalm. Contracts like that scare the hell out of me and if Luongo decides to throw a snit over playing for the Leafs, well........
 
2012-06-22 05:56:13 PM
Luongo would help get us to the playoffs for the first time in 9 years
but I worry he will not be able to handle out brutal media
 
2012-06-22 05:57:04 PM

CanadianCommie: There's a ton of rumours flying around but it's a little light on action thus far.


I personally think that the Oilers are farking with everyone making it seem like they're going to pick Murray; this is despite the fact that the Oilers have been consistent in picking BPA regardless of position. They picked Hall over Seguin despite needing a centre and they picked RNH because they figured he'd be the best.

Yakupov may be a winger but he's by and large the BPA. Murray may be the most NHL-ready but that doesn't make him the best.


On that note, from Pierre LeBrun

Tambellini says he highly doubts he'll move the pick at this point.... We'll see
 
2012-06-22 05:58:14 PM

desertgeek: On that note, from Pierre LeBrun

Tambellini says he highly doubts he'll move the pick at this point.... We'll see


a team would have to give them a pretty convincing package (immediate NHL upgrade on defence would be a good start) in order for Tambellini to even consider it.
 
2012-06-22 05:59:54 PM

ontariolightning: Luongo would help get us to the playoffs for the first time in 9 years
but I worry he will not be able to handle out brutal media


Toronto may have a more brutal media in general, but the Vancouver media specializes in destroying our goalies.
 
2012-06-22 06:04:17 PM

4NSpy: ontariolightning: Luongo would help get us to the playoffs for the first time in 9 years
but I worry he will not be able to handle out brutal media

Toronto may have a more brutal media in general, but the Vancouver media specializes in destroying our goalies.


At least you have Schneider to fall back on, hes # 1 talent on any team
 
2012-06-22 06:05:13 PM
I bet at least Thomas or Luongo are traded today
 
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