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(The New York Times)   New documentary depicts the owners of the largest mansion in America. Money can't buy class   (nytimes.com) divider line 74
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2012-06-22 12:58:25 PM
They have a whole lot of stuff and none of it is worth anything. Congratulations to them. Being wealthy must be the best! Unfinished house, dead dog in a glass box and a litter of unhappy kids. At least you have 10 kitchens. I bet that's comforting.

Christ.

Even if the housing bubble hadn't happened, are we seriously supposed to believe that monstrosity of a house and those unhappy people standing on dead grass is the realization of American aspiration? That's either sad, insulting or horrifying; I'm not sure which one wins. Probably "sad."
 
2012-06-22 12:59:30 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x400]

Who's that hiding behind the column on the left?


llwproductions.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-22 01:12:13 PM

xtragrind: padraig: I saw the trailer of this movie. Despite the fact that they were far, far richer than I am, despite the fact that the wife was merely a trophy wife, I found them strangely relatable, in those short snippets.

BUBUTBUT rich people are demons created by the GOP to destroy us all!


That is really dumb. Rich assholes created the current GOP to destroy us all.
 
2012-06-22 01:16:55 PM

under a mountain: Put's up 400 million of his own money, creates jobs and takes all the risks.
Yeah what a dick.

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At least an idiot. He should put up two million of his own, leveraged the holdings of others for 450 million, take away all the usable resources, pay himself a bonus of $40 million, and leave the rest to sink or swim. THAT is the American way. Oh, and he should have negotiated for tax breaks and special grants paid for by tax payers.
 
2012-06-22 01:39:19 PM
I am images.thetruthaboutcars.com's complete lack of surprise
 
2012-06-22 01:51:08 PM
I don't understand how anybody would ever really be comfortable living in a house that big. It would be too big and empty feeling for me to ever relax. YMMV though.
 
2012-06-22 02:25:03 PM
We have 4 dogs and never a poop or pee in the house. It's training....or as we normal folk call it...work.
 
2012-06-22 02:34:43 PM

Killer Cars: fatalvenom: Why anyone would want to live in Orlando/Central Florida is beyond me.

Having driven through every major city on the East coast multiple times, the WORST traffic jam I can recall was on I-4 in stupid Orlando of all places. And, they're wasn't accident, just a f*cking parking lot on a freeway while being in the oppressive sauna known as Central Florida.

/I'm sure I ran into worse in DC or Atlanta, but I that one had me contemplate suicide.



Sigh. I live in downtown Orlando and work out at Disney, and I-4 is my nightmare. I seriously feel that my life is at risk during that commute.


Anyway. On the topic at hand, why am I not surprised that the biggest and tackiest mansion is in Orlando? They say things are big in Texas, but this is theme-park fantasy-land country. Haven't done any research yet and the article wasn't workong for me, but I 'd love to know where this place is. Orlando really is full of trashy, classless people, but luckily I forget about this most of the time because Orlando has a lot of cool and interesting people that live here, too.



Not that I want to live here forever, but there are worse places to live.
 
2012-06-22 02:38:59 PM

Mikey1969: She and her husband explain to Ms. Greenfield that they didn't set out to build America's biggest house, but after they'd included everything they both wanted - the bowling alley, the 10 kitchens, the health spa - it just turned out that way.

All right, I get the 'add everything you want' thing. We'd all like to do this...

I get the bowling alley thing, it would be cool to have. Personally, I've always thought that it would be cool to have a shooting range under my house.

But TEN freaking kitchens? that's just stupid. 2 or 3 I can see, 1 in a guest wing, one near the entertainment/theater room, and 1 main one, but who the FARK needs 10 kitchens in their house?

But they're not pretentious at all, no way...


Never underestimate a "spun" article - that number could include the sink and microwave next to the bar; the BBQ pit; and the sink/stove/fridge in each of the pool cabana huts.
 
2012-06-22 03:07:00 PM
Funny, that didn't look like the Biltmore estate.

/maybe not biggest mansion
//but still damn nice
 
2012-06-22 03:12:41 PM

arghyematey: Haven't done any research yet and the article wasn't workong for me, but I 'd love to know where this place is.


I think it's in Windermere/Isleworth.

/fellow downtowner-person
 
2012-06-22 03:56:36 PM

El Freak: I don't understand how anybody would ever really be comfortable living in a house that big. It would be too big and empty feeling for me to ever relax. YMMV though.


Yeah, having a big house sounds cool at first, but when you really think about it, what in the hell would you do with all that space?
 
2012-06-22 04:28:05 PM

Ashtrey: Funny, that didn't look like the Biltmore estate.

/maybe not biggest mansion
//but still damn nice


Most people with the money to build 'mansions' should never be allowed near the design. The Potomac, MD area is full of examples of idiots who will spend a fortune to build a house that looks someone came across a deal on McMansion spare parts.
 
2012-06-22 04:30:52 PM
Do they die at the end? Cause then maybe I'll watch their fame whore documentary.
 
2012-06-22 04:32:19 PM

CraicBaby: El Freak: I don't understand how anybody would ever really be comfortable living in a house that big. It would be too big and empty feeling for me to ever relax. YMMV though.

Yeah, having a big house sounds cool at first, but when you really think about it, what in the hell would you do with all that space?


I got 'lucky' with a place here in DC I'm renting. Then a family member moved out and I realized that I had about 3 extra bedrooms more than I needed. I've looked at smaller places, but because of the deal I got with the rent, it would actually cost more to move to a smaller place.

I think the owner of this place got caught in a bad mortgage, and was just happy for someone who paid the rent on time and over a long period of time. But if I had to do it over I'd probably look into getting a smaller place. I feel that if I need to hire someone to take care of the cleaning for me, then I've just got too much junk to take care of.

I couldn't imagine anything more than 5,000 sq ft being anything but a serious hassle and extra stress.
 
2012-06-22 04:44:15 PM
If I was a trophy wife who was too lazy to take care of my pets, I'd at least pay someone to train them to not shiat all over the house.

/That's actually what annoyed me most in this story.
 
2012-06-22 05:34:01 PM

CraicBaby: El Freak: I don't understand how anybody would ever really be comfortable living in a house that big. It would be too big and empty feeling for me to ever relax. YMMV though.

Yeah, having a big house sounds cool at first, but when you really think about it, what in the hell would you do with all that space?


I'm still trying to figure out what to do with 2200 square feet. I guess if I had a bunch of kids, they would take up some space but it's just the two of us. We're actually considering knocking out the wall between our master bedroom and the br next door and making one huge master suite. We'd still have two extra bedrooms for office/music/craft space.

Maybe add an upstairs kitchen too. I'm suddenly feeling inadequate with just one.

/that last part was a joke
 
2012-06-22 06:12:02 PM

Les Comdien Masque: Mikey1969: Ms. Greenfield lingers on the dog poop scattered around the house. (The dogs were never trained, she says, because the staff always quickly swept up after them.)

Meh. If you make it to the last page, the guy claims that the pooping - along with several other bits of the film - were misrepresented:
"His dogs didn't regularly poop in the house, he said. (One of them was dying of cancer, he said, which caused the problem.)"


When the dog absolutely cannot stop itself from shiatting all over your house, it's done. If its that far gone, the dog is even more miserable than the turds all over the carpet are making you. Time to take Ol' Yeller out behind the barn...
 
2012-06-22 06:17:54 PM

Les Comdien Masque: Mikey1969: Ms. Greenfield lingers on the dog poop scattered around the house. (The dogs were never trained, she says, because the staff always quickly swept up after them.)

Meh. If you make it to the last page, the guy claims that the pooping - along with several other bits of the film - were misrepresented:
"His dogs didn't regularly poop in the house, he said. (One of them was dying of cancer, he said, which caused the problem.)"


Now now, no fair trying to interrupt a circlejerk in progress.
 
2012-06-22 06:30:18 PM
Bad reality TV comes to the big screen? Meh.
 
2012-06-22 07:33:42 PM
I can only assume subby was talking about the filmmaker. What a 'see you next tuesday' she was. She only wanted a scandal and when it didn't turn out that way she made it that way.

I don't often feel sorry for people like them but she gave them the royal screw job.
 
2012-06-22 07:50:09 PM
"Class" and "large mansion" are two words that don't really go together.
 
2012-06-23 12:50:01 AM
When it was under construction it reminded me of a Middle Eastern Embassy. It now looks like a French brothel crossed with a casino. Something like Springfield's Burlesque house, only a lot more expensive.

Here's a website dedicated to selling it:

http://lakebutlermansion.com/

Looks like the construction under all that marble and gilt is classic Monster Home crap-box wood, with aluminum (or steel) and more concrete than most Monster Homes have.

I don't think I'd buy anything built since 1912. These super-rich guys are really being ripped off on the construction underneath the veneer and paint.

Florida building codes are crap. In fact, I expect the building codes in the entire South make Disneyland look like Crusader castles when it comes to flimsy ticky-tacky. You could find better framing and wood in a trailer park in Canada.
 
2012-06-25 03:03:24 PM

ThatGuyGreg: Solid Muldoon: But it can buy ass.

That kind of money can buy much better ass.


Maybe he should buy timeshares of ass all around the world.
 
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