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(WLBZ2 Bangor)   "Emergency agencies converged in Bangor to fend off the devastation of a zombie apocalypse." Bangor? I shot her in the head   (wlbz2.com) divider line 23
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2012-06-22 01:13:07 PM
4 votes:

Researcher: I like zombie movies and zombie stuff in general, it's fine... some people like orks or elves, that's fine too. BUT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE CONCERNED WITH A ZOMBIE OUTBREAK!


Dude, is was just a imaginary disease to work with so they could run general disease outbreak drills with the emergency responders units. The organizers were just having a joke to make the obligatory drill a little more fun.

Chill.

Seriously.
2012-06-22 01:14:35 PM
3 votes:
Um... you guys do know that no one is expecting actual zombies, right?

"Zombie uprising" is just a fun, low stress generic fictional "emergency." Substitute the actual disaster of your choice.

Some of the actual shiat that could happen... well, it's fecking terrifying if you think too hard on it, so people shut down and don't pay attention to it. They hide behind "It'll never happen, no need ot prepare." because they don't want to spend energy imagining it happening.

No one older than twelve who leaves the basement occasionally expects actual zombies to show up. They're not a real threat. Therefore, they're fun. So people will get their heads into the idea of disaster preparedness (they do know deep down that this is necessary, not for the zombies but for the next real Bad Thing) in a fun, non-stressful way.
2012-06-22 03:28:43 PM
2 votes:

Researcher: Awww you're seriously butthurt.


Projection fairy again.

And I think my point stands. To get a legit opinion, I'd probably have to ask your brother.

Him, or any other paramedic or firefighter.

Please, do walk up to any paramedic or firefighter, show them this article, and ask them if they think it was a waste of money.

But since you seem to have difficulty understanding English, I'm not sure that would help.
2012-06-22 03:18:30 PM
2 votes:

Researcher: That's a pretty swell axe he has. And as you've pointed out, by the transitive properties of you being off your cookis, I guess you know exactly what being a firefighter is like.

Or am I supposed to be intimidated?

I'm not sure what direction to take this: Internet tough girl, or your GED in first responding?

Thoughts?


I don't know what being a firefighter is like, but I obviously know about about how they work and train than you do Mr. I like zombie movies and zombie stuff in general, it's fine... some people like orks or elves, that's fine too. BUT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE CONCERNED WITH A ZOMBIE OUTBREAK!

I realize no one gets to play dress up, but honestly? F**k that. These things cost MONEY than can be BETTER SPENT on facing those hard realities. How much do you think the total bill for this was? Why not buy copper fixtures or other anti-bacterial things for the local hospital. Why not actually make life better? Just the wasted gas for people to drive to this thing could have been to a better cause.

See, money BETTER spent because those things... I don't know... actually happen.

It isn't about NOT spending money, stop trying to be contrary for no reason, it's about spending the money in the wrong place. So, to review....
Good things to spend money on: Bus crashes, floods, fires, actual diseases, explosions.... I think we agree on that.
Bad things to spend money on: Anything fictional...


You tripled down the derp and are now flailing in ad hominems. I'll just leave you to it.
2012-06-22 02:43:23 PM
2 votes:

Researcher:

If you don't see the intrinsic stupidity and poor reflection on emergency services or using zombies instead of sars I got nothing else to say hoss.


We're back to..."You sound boring."

At least you dropped "wasting tax dollars!" argument, that was the stupid part.
2012-06-22 02:35:05 PM
2 votes:

Researcher:

Sorry you're a stuffy idiot. It won't get any better unless you see to that.

I'd hotlink a welcome to Fark pic but whatever. Go be butthurt in another thread.


Is there like a "projection fairy" floating around here or something? The one expressing butthurt is you, over something utterly idiotic since you seem incapable of realizing that they are practicing the SAME FARKING PROCEDURES they would use if they were facing an epidemic of a real disease. They just used to word "Zombie" rather than "SARS" to make it fun.

/At this point I am actually hoping that I have been trolled.
2012-06-22 02:17:45 PM
2 votes:

Researcher: Well, if your BROTHER is a fireman, I don't even know how I'm even ABLE to argue with at this point... seriously though...

The rest of your post was suspiciously NOT zombie related. Bus crashes, etc, etc....

See, money BETTER spent because those things... I don't know... actually happen.

It isn't about NOT spending money, stop trying to be contrary for no reason, it's about spending the money in the wrong place. So, to review....
Good things to spend money on: Bus crashes, floods, fires, actual diseases, explosions.... I think we agree on that.
Bad things to spend money on: Anything fictional...

You're basically making my point for me at this point... not sure why you're mad though.....


You start screaming about "wasting money" on getting vital training to first responders (after their programs have been cut and they get attacked for being "paid too much"), and yeah, some people are going to get a little irate.

I'm not sure why you don't understand that they used "zombie" as just a name to give to random disease so that they could practice epidemic outbreak procedures. It was a way to make it fun and memorable for folks. It didn't cost anymore than if they had called it a "Dengue Fever" or "SARS."

So basically, you're pissy because someone had a little fun with it?

Really. Pull the stick out man.
2012-06-22 02:05:22 PM
2 votes:
Researcher:

My point being these guys deal with accidents and illness everyday, but big things; disasters, epidemics, etc. are outside their daily experience. Being prepared on how to handle large crisis so that the organization flows smoothly together to deal with it is essential. You can't get that from reading a book. You have have to run the drill, see what works and what doesn't, and get the boots on the ground folks trained on proper procedure.
2012-06-22 01:58:28 PM
2 votes:

Researcher: YOU can take it on faith that it actually was what you said.... I'm taking it on what I've seen and heard of this and other things like it that it's money wasted.


As I above in the thread, my brother is a fireman and captain of the paramedics squad for my hometown and has been doing this for many, many years. They do these training exercises because first responders need to know immediately what to do to save lives and not fark up the situaiton any further.

Example, on 9/11 his watch commander panicked and brought all units in and locked the station down. If any terrorist were to give a damn about Maine, putting all your emergency response units in one well-known place, where they can't help people, is the definition of stupid.

They always run bus crash drills, drills with different types of fires, water rescues, etc. because with firemen, paramedics, and police, and in this instance also hospital personal and city officials, knowing exactly what to do when they hit the ground is literally the difference between life and death.

So if you want to save your tax dollars, then when you have a heart attack from being wound so tight, make sure they DON'T dial 9-11, cause, hey, those guys being adequately trained is just a waste of your money.
2012-06-22 01:47:31 PM
2 votes:

Researcher: So no, I don't like this kind of nonsense, it's deleterious to the species.


You sound boring.
2012-06-22 01:21:25 PM
2 votes:
Yeah, relax guy's. Civil insurrection brought on by a disaster wouldn't be much different from a zombie outbreak. A simulated zombie outbreak would be much more fun to participate in though.

Either way, if it really happened, I'm pretty sure your insurance company ain't gonna cover it.
2012-06-22 12:30:07 PM
2 votes:

Bahleted: KiplingKat872: My brother is a fireman and captain of our hometown paramedic squad, and is a SciFi geek with a great sense of humor. I just e-mailed him to see if he was in on this.

Maine is a state of awesome. Now if people from New Jersey would stop trying to bring New Jersey with them, we'd all be happy.

You're too obvious


Natives have gotten pretty tolerant of folks from away. It's just when people move to Maine to "get away from it all/the big city/suburbs" but then try to get the zoning laws changed to develop the shiat out the place and "What do you mean I have to drive half an hour to go to the grocery store!?! Let's put in a strip mall right next to the lake, right here." that Natives get tetchy.
2012-06-22 12:19:03 PM
2 votes:
My brother is a fireman and captain of our hometown paramedic squad, and is a SciFi geek with a great sense of humor. I just e-mailed him to see if he was in on this.

Maine is a state of awesome. Now if people from New Jersey would stop trying to bring New Jersey with them, we'd all be happy.
2012-06-22 09:32:23 PM
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: Compared to how people of my generation and older learned about disaster preparedness/civil defense, "what would you do in the event of Zombiegeddon?" civil defense exercises and prep are downright FUN and--dare I say it--actually kind of non-threatening yet get the point across. :D

You see, most folks 30+ years old got their civil defense prep training from the Cold War, where there WAS a non-negligible risk of getting nuked--I'm convinced to this day that the US government persisted with this past the Bomber Era not because there was any realistic chance that civil defense prep of the era would save us from The Wrath Of The H-Bomb (if anything, unless you were VERY FAR from Ground Zero AND not upwind of a major target area it'd just prolong the radiation sickness) but to teach folks disaster preparedness against the comparatively little, non-nuclear stuff...things like tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, floods, accidental gas releases from the train tracks or the chemical plant next door, THAT sort of thing where what was once known as Civil Defense and later DES and after that (INSERT YOUR STATE HERE) Department of Homeland Security DOES get called out on a routine basis.

Fortunately, a lot of the prep against zombies now is very similar to the sort of thing to prepare for in cases of things where you need to shelter in place (hurricanes outside of evac zones, gas releases outside of evac zones, public unrest, pandemics) and a lot of it is useful in a general civil-defense construct (make sure you have emergency supplies in case TSHTF). AND most folks are aware that the Living Dead and Plague Ghouls don't generally exist in meatspace, so it's much more fun than "Oh god the Russians might nuke us" (which COULD have happened, and almost did more than once by accident).


Yep. I am also old enough to have had recurring nightmares as a child about them dropping the bomb on us. I still can tell you where each and every fallout shelter is in my hometown, and which one we would head for when they dropped it.

Trust me. Zombies are way better.
2012-06-22 02:53:11 PM
1 votes:

Researcher: Also like... half trolling you. "My brother is a firefighter"? Who the hell says that.


...The sister of the guy with the axe.

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2012-06-22 02:28:10 PM
1 votes:

Researcher: I'm sorry you seem essentially incapable of getting my point. I wish I was trolling you, I really do...

Whatever, we'll just agree to disagree. I don't want to offend your fraternally instilled disaster preparedness sensibilities any longer.


Dude, I was thinking there was some serious Poe's Law going on here.

Sorry you're a stuffy idiot. It won't get any better unless you see to that.
2012-06-22 01:41:40 PM
1 votes:
Researcher:

They were drilling for a mass casualty incident. Which is a very real possibility. Being prepared for such by having practiced is a really good idea.

They used zombies instead of another more realistic pandemic because it was fun. The preparation was the same.
2012-06-22 01:14:00 PM
1 votes:

Supes: What a waste of resources. Though it does mean I know where I'm heading now if the dead ever do start to rise.


Jerusalem?

Because last time I checked the Resurrection is a staple of the Abrahamic religions... I'm going to say it.

Shooting zombies is anti-Semitic, probably anti-Christian.

Resurrection of the dead...

Or is that just a part of most people's religion they don't think about anymore. Like, not being a jerk to each other and helping each other out.
2012-06-22 01:06:18 PM
1 votes:

ladyfortuna: Really? They're actually training for this now?

I mean, I'm grateful, if it ever happens, but... come on.


It's a great way to get people to pay attention to disaster preparedness. The real stuff is scary so people hide their heads in the sand about it until it really happens and then it's too late. Zombies are fictional (bath salts excluded) and therefore fun. And really, who doesn't want to spend an afternoon preparing for the zombie apocalypse?
2012-06-22 01:05:53 PM
1 votes:
And yet we have government agencies woefully unprepared for the inevitable:
Robot Uprising
Dragon Attack
Unicorn Stampede
Djinn Infestation
Triffid Outbreak
Summer Predator Prevention

And if you think for a MOMENT, even a split second, that those things are sillier or somehow less genuine than zombies - you are a complete idiot.

This zombie bullshiat is out of hand. I get it, the Soviet Union is gone. There are kids now who never even knew it... so the classic robot uprising/communism euphemism is a little passe.

But everything that needed to be said about zombies has been said. Yes, the idea that democracy and mob rule can run amok is awful. That out of 5 people, 4 people can vote and eat the least one, that sometimes it's hard to trust your fellow man because they can turn on you... blah blah blah.... it's been done. What possible profound point is left to make with zombies as the vehicle?

I like zombie movies and zombie stuff in general, it's fine... some people like orks or elves, that's fine too. BUT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE CONCERNED WITH A ZOMBIE OUTBREAK!

/Seriously disappointed with the government
//This is worse than CDC having to say that bath salts guy wasn't a zombie. FFS.
2012-06-22 01:03:21 PM
1 votes:

cleek: i will be very happy when people stop it with the farking zombie nonsense.


Ewwww...
2012-06-22 12:22:03 PM
1 votes:
Stephen King wanted for questioning.
2012-06-22 12:17:52 PM
1 votes:
Noone cares about maine
 
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