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(Entertainment Weekly)   The twenty-three best starships from TV and movies. Nothing beats the Starship Defiant. Nothing   (ew.com) divider line 425
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2012-06-22 11:56:12 AM  
marciasramblings.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-22 12:16:45 PM  
The list is pretty good and I agree with a lot of the posts in the thread.

But nothing from Wing Commander?
 
2012-06-22 12:17:43 PM  
Of all the lists of best space ships...this was one.

My biggest issue, if it mattered is that the Rocket from TinTin is just a V2 painted red. It's a cookie cutter rocket....100s have used that before....TinTin makes it no more original.


From what I see above...couple things... Godphoenix (Gatchaman/Botp) IsNOT a space ship...she is an aircraft meant only for atmospheric flight. Forgot all that Sandy Frank bullshiat you learned as a child...they never leave Earth...the bad guys aren't aliens.

And while the Thunderbirds had a spacecraft...that was Thunderbird 3. Thunderbird 2 was atmospheric only.
 
2012-06-22 12:18:23 PM  
images.nationalgeographic.com

List fails without.
 
2012-06-22 12:20:15 PM  
The spaceship from Eureka...though it technically never went into outer space.
 
2012-06-22 12:22:23 PM  
Glad DSV2 (Liberator) is getting some love in this thread. It's the best min-max ship of all time.

It's a capital ship. It's entirely self-maintaining. It has a regenerating power system. It has a self-repair system. It only requires a crew of 7 (6 + Zen). It has the only teleporter on the show. It's the fastest ship on the show. It has a strongroom that has wealth worth approximately 'millions of credits'.
 
2012-06-22 12:25:03 PM  

Pastramification: [thedeadhorse.files.wordpress.com image 640x360]

Moya sad.


Finally. Thank you.

No Tardis? List fail.
 
2012-06-22 12:26:47 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Whar is your god now
/hot like fire from a false god
 
2012-06-22 12:36:43 PM  
The list fails on many levels. First, starship does not mean "space vehicle", it means something capable of interstellar travel. The Discovery is an interplanetary ship, not a starship. Second, no Yamamoto.

While far from iconic, the ISV Venture Star from Avatar is, according to our best ideas today, most likely what an actual starship would look like.

/paging 9beers to tell us that Avatar is still a better movie than Avengers
 
2012-06-22 12:38:30 PM  
Probably already been said:

The Enterprise from Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a beautiful understated design that holds up quite well. And I have a big soft spot for the Enterprise D.
 
2012-06-22 12:40:57 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Shostie: FirstNationalBastard: Well, a single Borg cube did a pretty good number in it.

Oh, and the Dominion destroyed it.

I guess I could go all Super-Nerd and bring up the fact that there was also a Constitution class Defiant.

And the Constitution class Defiant had the hottest Captain...

[images.wikia.com image 436x317]


cause all captains have exposed midriffs. so awesome.

since my pixel skills are lame, can anyone shop a chunky capt. Kirk in a half shirt?
 
2012-06-22 12:41:42 PM  

RangerTaylor: I know it makes me a bad person, but I always liked the A-Wing and Y-Wing more than the X or TIE fighter.
[fichtenfoo.net image 460x291]
[www.smallartworks.ca image 640x414]


Why does that make you a bad person? The A Wing is the fastest sub-light star ship in the original movies and the Y Wing, well that is the old workhorse.

A modern analogy would be that the A Wing is the F-18, the Y Wing the F-15, the X-Wing the F-22, and the B Wing the F-35.
 
2012-06-22 12:54:51 PM  

fusillade762: Surprised this one hasn't been posted yet:

[otakudom.files.wordpress.com image 550x387]


2.bp.blogspot.com
appreciates the nod
 
2012-06-22 12:58:13 PM  
Well, since they're including starships from video games. This one deserves mention, if only for the whacked out crew of bots running around in it:

i5.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-22 01:04:28 PM  
www.coldnorth.com

www.b5tech.com
 
2012-06-22 01:15:31 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: RangerTaylor: I know it makes me a bad person, but I always liked the A-Wing and Y-Wing more than the X or TIE fighter.
[fichtenfoo.net image 460x291]
[www.smallartworks.ca image 640x414]

Why does that make you a bad person? The A Wing is the fastest sub-light star ship in the original movies and the Y Wing, well that is the old workhorse.

A modern analogy would be that the A Wing is the F-18, the Y Wing the F-15, the X-Wing the F-22, and the B Wing the F-35.


gah. Thats a terrible modern analogy.

A-Wing = F22/16/Mig35. Its an air superiority fighter period. Armament is purely anti-starfighter purposes (F22). Fastest sub-light fighter (Mig35 was a high speed interceptor), highly maneuverable (F16)

Y-Wing = The F4 phantom. Its an old venerable work horse that isn't great compared to the most modern of fighters but it can do practically anything.

X-Wing = F-15. Primarily an air superiority fighter but can be equipped to be an excellent bomber.

B-Wing = no modern analog. Its a heavy fighter bomber that (if you played the games) you realize shouldn't engage in a dogfight. Maybe an F15E or F18 with less air to air abilities, or an SU25 with more...
 
2012-06-22 01:32:31 PM  
I am only in this thread to show the picture I took yesterday. I've been driving past this for a week now and finally decided to snap a pic (albeit not a very good one). Not sure what the price is, but I'll get the number for any farker/farkette that just has to have their very own USS Enterprise. It actually looks pretty cool in real life.

farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-06-22 01:33:54 PM  

RangerTaylor: I know it makes me a bad person, but I always liked the A-Wing and Y-Wing more than the X or TIE fighter.
[fichtenfoo.net image 460x291]
[www.smallartworks.ca image 640x414]


The first time I played the X-Wing computer game, I lost interest in the X-Wing as a fighter, when I kept pointing the crosshairs at stationary TIE fighters and missing on 4 sides.. yeah, they have a big dead zone in the middle.

Meanwhile, the Y-Wing is a solid platform for precision shooting, and the A-wing is a good interceptor. The B-wing handles funny, but is heavily armed.
 
2012-06-22 01:34:29 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: B-Wing = no modern analog. Its a heavy fighter bomber that (if you played the games) you realize shouldn't engage in a dogfight. Maybe an F15E or F18 with less air to air abilities, or an SU25 with more...


You forgot a couple of other possibilities:

upload.wikimedia.org

(though apparently these were replaced by the F-15E, so there you go).

or

media.motortopia.com
 
2012-06-22 01:34:35 PM  

PIP_the_TROLL: improvius: I'll add another vote for Moya.

Good man. And a vote from me of course. Moya was a gorgeous design and they did such an exquisite job of making her feel alive without anthropomorphizing her.

She was robbed on this list, man. She and her son both.


I'll third (fourth?) that, and add my disappointment that the Farscape-1 module, the Prowler, and heck, even the Marauder got slighted.

Moya and Talyn are the big let downs, though.
 
2012-06-22 01:40:33 PM  
Wicked Chinchilla

F-16's are pretty damn good at ground attack missions too.

Maybe a good analog for the B-Wing would be the A-10?
 
2012-06-22 01:46:01 PM  
No Flesh Gordon yet?
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-22 01:46:35 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: You forgot a couple of other possibilities:


My thoughts as well. I figured the B-Wing for a F117A stealth equivalent. Specialty heavy fighter, conceived later when a more advanced fighter/bomber hybrid was needed.

Now, if we really want to have fun, let's link the TIE series to MiG fighters.....
 
2012-06-22 01:47:35 PM  

moanerific: Wicked Chinchilla

F-16's are pretty damn good at ground attack missions too.

Maybe a good analog for the B-Wing would be the A-10?


Perhaps.. the B-Wing is really for capitol ship assaults. An A-10 would probably do very well in attacking a battleship.. if they can find it at sea. I don't think their sensors are set up for that.
 
2012-06-22 01:47:58 PM  
www.ultrapublications.com
 
2012-06-22 01:56:55 PM  

Roof Pig: Whaaaaat? No

[www.hostpic.org image 550x275]

Farkers be slippin

/hot


How I know you didn't read the thread.
 
2012-06-22 01:58:22 PM  

Alphax: moanerific: Wicked Chinchilla

F-16's are pretty damn good at ground attack missions too.

Maybe a good analog for the B-Wing would be the A-10?

Perhaps.. the B-Wing is really for capitol ship assaults. An A-10 would probably do very well in attacking a battleship.. if they can find it at sea. I don't think their sensors are set up for that.


This. The B-Wing is designed as an anti-capital ship aircraft. A10 doesn't fit because it has very, very little anti-air capacity and its slow. The Su25 is slightly more capable air to air, and its fast which is I chose it. However, I now think its closest analog would actually be the F111 (good thinking on the aardvark, I hadn't even considered it) or the Tornado. The F117 doesn't translate to any star wars star-fighters because they are all multi-role aircraft (except for the a-wing).

Also, F16's are exceptionally good with ground attack. Which is why its not a direct translation to the A-Wing. Its not considerably faster than its opponents, and its a great ground pounder. The F22 is all air to air, but it doesn't QUITE have the speed advantage of the Mig35 ( though super cruise enables it to go not as fast for much longer). The Mig 35 can go very very fast for short periods of time, but is not maneuverable. Hence why I chose all 3. The A-Wing can do two things (super fast, super-maneuverability) that atmospheric fighters cannot do simultaneously because of differing aerodynamic requirements (generally, very generally).
 
2012-06-22 02:07:50 PM  

Whatthefark: I've always liked the USS Cygnus form "The Black Hole." It's not iconic, but it's a cool looking starship.


The six stars of the southern cross, in mourning for their sister lost? The black hole of cygnus X-1?


/seriously, who's the author?
 
2012-06-22 02:13:27 PM  

moanerific: Wicked Chinchilla

F-16's are pretty damn good at ground attack missions too.

Maybe a good analog for the B-Wing would be the A-10?


More like the F-111
 
2012-06-22 02:13:28 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Alphax: moanerific: Wicked Chinchilla

F-16's are pretty damn good at ground attack missions too.

Maybe a good analog for the B-Wing would be the A-10?

Perhaps.. the B-Wing is really for capitol ship assaults. An A-10 would probably do very well in attacking a battleship.. if they can find it at sea. I don't think their sensors are set up for that.

This. The B-Wing is designed as an anti-capital ship aircraft. A10 doesn't fit because it has very, very little anti-air capacity and its slow. The Su25 is slightly more capable air to air, and its fast which is I chose it. However, I now think its closest analog would actually be the F111 (good thinking on the aardvark, I hadn't even considered it) or the Tornado. The F117 doesn't translate to any star wars star-fighters because they are all multi-role aircraft (except for the a-wing).

Also, F16's are exceptionally good with ground attack. Which is why its not a direct translation to the A-Wing. Its not considerably faster than its opponents, and its a great ground pounder. The F22 is all air to air, but it doesn't QUITE have the speed advantage of the Mig35 ( though super cruise enables it to go not as fast for much longer). The Mig 35 can go very very fast for short periods of time, but is not maneuverable. Hence why I chose all 3. The A-Wing can do two things (super fast, super-maneuverability) that atmospheric fighters cannot do simultaneously because of differing aerodynamic requirements (generally, very generally).


A better comparison for the B-Wing would be the Dauntless or the Avenger. The B-Wing does not fit into modern naval aviation philosophy of air superiority and multiple roles(anti-ship is extreme range). There is no dedicated anti-ship fighter that I know of at this time. You might want to compare it to the AC130, but that would be more of a cruiser sized equivalent if you wanted equivalencies.
 
2012-06-22 02:14:56 PM  
I do still love the original style battle cruiser
www.ditl.org
 
2012-06-22 02:21:19 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I do still love the original style battle cruiser
[www.ditl.org image 640x350]


Yeah...but the Negh'var Class Heavy Battlecruiser could really bust some heads.

/Yes...I'm a nerd for having known, without guessing, precisely how to spell that class of cruiser, and for having it pop immediately to mind when the Bird of Prey, and the old style Battle Cruiser were posted.
 
2012-06-22 02:25:51 PM  
I always had a soft spot for Brunhild, the Imperial Fleet flagship from Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

The Alliance ships were pretty trick too. Very brutish looking.

img141.imageshack.us
 
2012-06-22 02:30:11 PM  
This thread is making me hanker for some Homeworld!

/Wish there were more games out there like that.
//That I can play on my POS laptop.
 
2012-06-22 02:34:09 PM  

Snow Monkey: This thread is making me hanker for some Homeworld!

/Wish there were more games out there like that.
//That I can play on my POS laptop.


Depends on how POSy it is. Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion was just released.
 
2012-06-22 02:35:22 PM  

SithLord: [images.nationalgeographic.com image 600x450]

List fails without.


No, the Shuttle fails because it can't travel between star systems. This is a list of STARships not SPACEships.
 
2012-06-22 02:39:39 PM  

bhcompy: [fc03.deviantart.net image 640x480]

[img11.imageshack.us image 529x534]


that's the nerdiest thing in this thread.

congrats
 
2012-06-22 02:41:31 PM  
Behold! Comic book science for Space Nutters to pound their meat to!
/Real science is so much more restrictive, eh?
 
2012-06-22 02:42:48 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: Well, since they're including starships from video games. This one deserves mention, if only for the whacked out crew of bots running around in it:

[i5.photobucket.com image 377x458]


Don't touch the big red button.
 
2012-06-22 02:48:14 PM  
For the first time ever, into a NerdGasm thread about great starships, and I don't see one mention of:

images.wikia.com

Just take the moon out of that list and put the Lectroid ship in there.

Also for honorable mention, from the guts of the Lectroid ship:



And she wasn't on either ship. But in a jail cell or tied up in a damp, dank, busted-ass factory, this was her shining moment on screen - as hot as she got:

www.alicia-logic.com

And not a sci fi movie, but how can you NOT like any movie that starts out with a scene like this one:

NSFW

She had "unconventional good looks" as some reviewers said ... bangin' body, butter face ...
 
2012-06-22 02:51:11 PM  
Hmm link didn't hotten up enough. Try his from Buckaroo Banzai:

www.alicia-logic.com
 
2012-06-22 02:54:36 PM  
Don't forget:
media.screened.com
 
2012-06-22 02:55:20 PM  
msfm.seryan.com
 
2012-06-22 02:56:14 PM  

GypsyJoker: [www.surfling.org image 490x276]


YES. Fark yes. THANK YOU.

DARK FARKING STAR

favorites list for you.
oh yeah..

I'm tired of being treated like an old washrag!


And for the rest of you DORKS out there. Yes. The Falcon should be #1. Most of that list wouldn't farking EXIST
had the Millennium Falcon not awesomed its way across the screen into your FACE in 1977.

So, yes, you can suck it.
 
2012-06-22 03:06:02 PM  
I do like the B5 ship designs.

Somewhat connected question.
Is it even possible, using the tech we have now, to build an actual spaceship like these?

Would the Yamato concept be possible? - Meaning, taking a Naval Vessel and retrofitting it to survive in space? (I'm not sure how to get it up there, but, it's another problem).
I would think that a Nuclear powered aircraft carrier would be a good space platform.
 
2012-06-22 03:10:09 PM  
sftdb.com

On the ready line, Marines.
 
2012-06-22 03:10:11 PM  
Virtual Pariah

I think that design-wise, the Earth Alliance and Narn ships from B5 are the most realistic. Omega Class had the rotating crew section for gravity. Narn ships didn't have any gravity, IIRC.
 
2012-06-22 03:13:01 PM  

nicoffeine: If they're gonna include video games...
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 640x784]


Amen you glorious bastard. Also, that wasn't Darth Vader's TIE fighter was it? Didn't his have pointy wings?
 
2012-06-22 03:22:46 PM  

Virtual Pariah: I do like the B5 ship designs.

Somewhat connected question.
Is it even possible, using the tech we have now, to build an actual spaceship like these?

Would the Yamato concept be possible? - Meaning, taking a Naval Vessel and retrofitting it to survive in space? (I'm not sure how to get it up there, but, it's another problem).
I would think that a Nuclear powered aircraft carrier would be a good space platform.


Google 'project orion' or lookup 'Michael' from Footfall...never happen, but a man can dream
 
2012-06-22 03:24:23 PM  
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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