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(Telegraph)   If you have your middle school students write mock 'suicide notes' as a creative writing exercise, make sure you tell the students to inform their parents it isn't real. Some parents may react badly otherwise   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 37
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2012-06-21 08:50:22 PM
My daughters middle school lost two students to suicide this year. Sick tag would have been appropriate.
 
2012-06-21 08:54:26 PM
If you have your middle school students write mock 'suicide notes' as a creative writing exercise, make sure you tell the students to inform their parents it isn't real. Some parents may react badly otherwise please stand down so that the kids have a chance at being taught by somebody with a lick of sense.
 
2012-06-21 09:41:43 PM
TFA: Wesley Walker, 14, was told to write to his mother as if he had a terminal illness and only had a few hours to live.

I unno, it's still a kind of stupid assignment
 
2012-06-21 09:47:44 PM
In 8th grade English we did the same thing. We were supposed to write a final goodbye to include how we would want to be remembered.

This is the same teacher that failed you for the marking period if you didn't dress Elizabethian on Shakespeare's birthday. She was a bit of a loon.
 
2012-06-21 10:34:38 PM
This sounds like something Jeremy Clarkson would do for a laugh.

/NTTAWWT
 
2012-06-21 11:08:13 PM
Dumbass tag on vacation?

These days you do not joke about or reference suicide with kids unless you clear it with parents first, I would expect..
 
2012-06-21 11:08:24 PM
People will look at the ashes of Discovery Academy and say, "Now there's a school that self-destructed, not because society didn't care, but because the school was society." Now that's deep.
 
2012-06-21 11:10:14 PM
With grammar like that, maybe Little Wesley should follow through and make this world a little more comfortable for those among us that can spell.

"giveing"
"make sure they were bright colors"

This teacher didn't just fail through this exercise, they failed at their farking job.
 
2012-06-21 11:10:57 PM
If the kids are from Greece, NY, you might be indifferent.
 
2012-06-21 11:13:47 PM
I am going to have my kids write up a little "my upcoming on-campus shooting spree".
 
2012-06-21 11:14:50 PM
This reminds me of a Dark Comedy writen by an English professor I had. http://www.amazon.com/The-Miracle-Letters-T-Rimberg/dp/0307396371
Great book. Story told through a man's suicide notes. However he doesn't kill himself and winds up performing a miracle.
 
2012-06-21 11:15:44 PM
Why do I get the feeling there's some serious projection going on here?

/if I'd chosen teaching as a career, I know I'd be suicidal about now
//just sayin'
 
2012-06-21 11:17:23 PM
Poor Wes Welker. I'm not surprised his mom would believe he'd be suicidal after his Superb Owl choke.
 
2012-06-21 11:18:39 PM
I kept journals (composition books) forever when I was a kid; loved writing down lyrics to some of my favorite songs... The parents find the notebook, freak out after reading my Written.Down.Lyrics. to Metallica's Dyer's Eve... ended up seeing a shrink for a bit after that. What really gets me is that the written down lyrics for Dyre's Eve was written one page AFTER Corpse's "Tomb of the Mutilated"...

Really Guys? Really?! Let's not worry about our 11 year old daughter writting about cutting a woman from her neck down to her anus... lets focus on the next page that starts off with "dear mother dear father", 'cause that one make more sense to us... I mean, Lookit! It mentions US!!!'

/They're teabaggers, now.
 
2012-06-21 11:24:11 PM
So they weren't asked to write suicide notes? Oh, just to write a goodbye letter as if they had a non-specific terminal illness? The mother of the student is the one who introduced suicide into the equation? She thinks 14 year olds shouldn't be dealing with death at all?

I'm beginning to see the real problem here....
 
2012-06-21 11:31:18 PM
This is actually illegal under federal guidelines.
 
2012-06-21 11:31:25 PM

Cookbook's Anarchist: With grammar like that, maybe Little Wesley should follow through and make this world a little more comfortable for those among us that can spell.

"giveing"
"make sure they were bright colors"

This teacher didn't just fail through this exercise, they failed at their farking job.


It didn't say she'd given him an A, ffs, just that he handed it to his mother and meandered on upstairs.
Interesting alternative to the "how will your epitaph read" exercise, but incredibly short-sighted.
 
2012-06-21 11:39:55 PM

prjindigo: This is actually illegal under federal guidelines.


Esplain' Lucy.
 
2012-06-21 11:57:36 PM
In my first year of classroom teaching, I did some Salinger stories with the 9th grade, including "Perfect Day for Bananafish".
**SPOILER ALERT**
In the story the main character kills himself for reasons which aren't immediately clear.


I had my students write his suicide note, which required some interpretation of what he was going through. I got a few that were clearly more the students' voices than Seymour's, including on that was pretty dark. I talked to that student a little after class, but he sort of blew me off and assured me everything was fine. Less than a month later, he got into a fight with his mom, and jumped off the roof of his apartment building right in front of her. I felt guilty for a long time after, like I should have done something more for him, should have read more into that note. It's probably unrealistic, but I still have it after 10 years, as a reminder that there's a lot more to teaching than the coursework, and that you never know when the opportunity to nudge someones' life in a better direction will come along.
 
2012-06-22 12:14:09 AM
Heaven forbid a teacher challenges a student to think out of the box ("imagine you are someone else.") Would it have been better to assign them to "write a mock suicide note for the day when you realize your Masters degree won't get you a decent job after all?"
 
2012-06-22 12:23:28 AM
I tend to think retroactively that english class had more to do with student psych evaluations than classical eduction anyway

/or at least it was a bonus byproduct
 
2012-06-22 12:25:56 AM
Toward the end of this last school year, I was talking to a 9th grade English teacher one day when I was there subbing for another teacher. Just the week before, one of the kids in one of her classes had killed himself. At the time, the curriculum was on Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. She mentioned that they were very quickly passing over the death scenes in the play for that year.

The next week, another 9th grader at the same school offed himself. The last few weeks of school there were kind of tense.
 
2012-06-22 12:35:03 AM

vudukungfu: If the kids are from Greece, NY, you might be indifferent.


I'll ask again here since it seems more likely I might get a response. Was there a thread about that? I couldn't find one the two times I looked.
 
2012-06-22 12:37:37 AM

WordyGrrl: Heaven forbid a teacher challenges a student to think out of the box ("imagine you are someone else.") Would it have been better to assign them to "write a mock suicide note for the day when you realize your Masters degree won't get you a decent job after all?"


Yes, because that would likely not be misinterpreted.

It's just a short-sighted move and one I wouldn't conduct without an acknowledgment via email, phone call, or online approval of some sort
 
2012-06-22 12:40:21 AM
At another school, about five years ago, the keyboarding teacher at one of my local middle schools got in big trouble on the first day of school.

To get the kids "comfortable" with the computers, she had them open up a new Word document and type whatever "dirty" words they wanted.

Sixth graders were typing up whole pages of shiat, fark, cock, coont, motherfarker, etc. for the whole period. Some went home and told Mommy about it. Teacher got suspended for a week and almost lost her job.
 
2012-06-22 12:51:45 AM

Aulus: To get the kids "comfortable" with the computers, she had them open up a new Word document and type whatever "dirty" words they wanted.


southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com

/hot like my scrotum
 
2012-06-22 12:52:38 AM

Aulus: At another school, about five years ago, the keyboarding teacher at one of my local middle schools got in big trouble on the first day of school.

To get the kids "comfortable" with the computers, she had them open up a new Word document and type whatever "dirty" words they wanted.

Sixth graders were typing up whole pages of shiat, fark, cock, coont, motherfarker, etc. for the whole period. Some went home and told Mommy about it. Teacher got suspended for a week and almost lost her job.


That's the real problem with America these days. Filthy ungrateful kids tattling to Mommy. They should be ashamed.

/not much fault really on the teacher. the sixth graders probably would let slip a word or two on an essay otherwise/anyways.
//farking psychopaths
 
2012-06-22 01:01:22 AM

Cookbook's Anarchist: With grammar like that, maybe Little Wesley should follow through and make this world a little more comfortable for those among us that can spell.

"giveing"
"make sure they were bright colors"

This teacher didn't just fail through this exercise, they failed at their farking job.


And just for grins, you should off yourself for failed conjugation.

I mean, as long as we're going full retard, here.
 
2012-06-22 01:14:59 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-22 02:12:00 AM

wambu: [i.imgur.com image 581x476]


I've always wondered about that Pastry option...
 
2012-06-22 02:30:38 AM

mephisto6: Cookbook's Anarchist: With grammar like that, maybe Little Wesley should follow through and make this world a little more comfortable for those among us that can spell.

"giveing"
"make sure they were bright colors"

This teacher didn't just fail through this exercise, they failed at their farking job.

And just for grins, you should off yourself for failed conjugation.

I mean, as long as we're going full retard, here.


You'll have to highlight the area in question as I'm suspecting a rotsky moment out of you. Unless you're asking for a semi-colon to combine the two independent clauses? Or are you questioning using that instead of who? And you choose to attack my conjugation while making the same mistake. I mean, if you think you need a comma, here. Asshole.

At least you included yourself in the disparaging comment regarding going full retard, as you have just proven the full scale warfare of tard-derping in your post.

She may not have given him an A, but the teacher made no measure to edit the grammar of a 14 year-old boy? She just let that go after reading it? In fact, you see nothing wrong with any 8th or 9th grade student that doesn't know the difference between "wear" and "were" when they're not even homophones?

Conclusion: You are either Wesley or his poor excuse for a teacher.
 
2012-06-22 03:49:04 AM
HE MISSPELLED GAY HOW DARE HE!!
 
2012-06-22 06:48:01 AM
R.I.P.

www.faniq.com
 
2012-06-22 07:46:18 AM
In grade 8 or 9 we had a health ed type class and the teacher forced us to choose a method of suicide and explain why we would pick that method if we were suicidal. My life was crap but I had never seriously considered suicide, my mom had always taught me it was a pretty huge sin. I don't remember if I did that assignment or not.
 
2012-06-22 09:02:47 AM
Teacher's assignment had nothing to do with suicide...TFA clearly says the assignment was to imagine they had a terminal illness. So really, this was a fine contemplation of life and transience, and, in a world with REAL KIDS DYING OF CANCER and such, should actually be applauded as creative education.

But, of course, kid didn't explain to Mom, Mom gets freaked, mistakenly tries to assuage her fundamental fear of mortality with blame, and some retardo farking reporter sees a paycheck through sensational headline writing.

And finally, subtard and half of you farking morons who don't RTFA before spewing idiocy of your own...

Goddamn pathetic...
 
2012-06-22 09:58:24 AM

FeatheredSun: Teacher's assignment had nothing to do with suicide...TFA clearly says the assignment was to imagine they had a terminal illness. So really, this was a fine contemplation of life and transience, and, in a world with REAL KIDS DYING OF CANCER and such, should actually be applauded as creative education.

But, of course, kid didn't explain to Mom, Mom gets freaked, mistakenly tries to assuage her fundamental fear of mortality with blame, and some retardo farking reporter sees a paycheck through sensational headline writing.

And finally, subtard and half of you farking morons who don't RTFA before spewing idiocy of your own...

Goddamn pathetic...


This!
If my kid has handed me a note like this and then takes themselves off to bed with no explanation as to context, you can bet your ass I'd march upstairs and ask them WTF. After the explanation I'd likely laugh and give them a half hearted smack upside the head and say "Idiot, scared the hell out me!". Then we could all go to sleep, better informed and at peace with the world ffs.
 
2012-06-22 01:51:19 PM
Why am I not surprised that a story on the Telegraph has a completely misleading headline that comes from one mom's hysterical poutrage. I mean, that's what Fark does, along with posting based entirely on the headline, but the Telegraph used to be respected....
 
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