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2012-06-22 02:41:39 AM  
It is a foregone conclusion that beer, in and of itself, created civilization.
 
2012-06-22 02:44:40 AM  

Linkster: It is a foregone conclusion that beer, in and of itself, created civilization.


No kidding. Because one doesn't solve the world's problems over white wine.
 
2012-06-22 02:46:10 AM  
I'm buying a home with baseboard heating, no forced air.

What's my best AC option farkers?
 
2012-06-22 02:46:29 AM  
Wimps! Take the heat and LIKE it! Bow to your entropic master!
 
2012-06-22 02:50:30 AM  

Smackledorfer: I'm buying a home with baseboard heating, no forced air.

What's my best AC option farkers?


Ductless heat pump. And get some ceiling fans and a dehumidifier for winter.
 
2012-06-22 02:50:48 AM  
Hot Story Bro:

It's too expensive for me to up and move elsewhere, so I'm stuck in the 112 degree desert with a goddamned swamp cooler. At best, it cools the house about 20 degrees. That's on days when it's about 95 outside and the house will stay within about 75-80. Once it's hotter than 95 outside, the cooler cools less and less, until running the thing full-blast, 24 hours a day gets the house down maybe 10 degrees cooler than the outside. I would kill my neighbors right now for their a/c units, but they've all got evaporative coolers, too.
 
2012-06-22 02:51:30 AM  
Chalk me up with the 'it's easier to get warmer than cooler' crowd. But I try and keep it reasonable. I set the A/C at 81 or so when it's really hot and humid, but lower when I know it's not going to cause it run all the time. At 81, I've found the A/C brings down the humidity enough to make it tolerable. But I do prefer 70 or so.

/Put on some sweats or get a blanket
 
2012-06-22 02:57:35 AM  
I work in a server room. Tuck a few brews under the raised floor. Put a venting tile under your chair. Then sit back....and pray the CIO doesn't drift in.

It'a a mans life. In IT.
 
2012-06-22 03:21:49 AM  

magicgoo: Hot Story Bro:

It's too expensive for me to up and move elsewhere, so I'm stuck in the 112 degree desert with a goddamned swamp cooler. At best, it cools the house about 20 degrees. That's on days when it's about 95 outside and the house will stay within about 75-80. Once it's hotter than 95 outside, the cooler cools less and less, until running the thing full-blast, 24 hours a day gets the house down maybe 10 degrees cooler than the outside. I would kill my neighbors right now for their a/c units, but they've all got evaporative coolers, too.


Go live with my cousin Byron in Jackson Hole, WY.
He's a nordic, swede lookin dude, so not too hard to look at. He might put you to work insulating pipes in sub-zero weather, but that's just a bit of ditch-digging and you might have to boil water a few weeks here or there in order to bathe or drink.

No worries, though. you can just put on some more clothes.

at 4 am you can even help clear out the driveway with a shovel! Don't forget to de-ice your car by 5, though... you'll be done by around 6, which should give you plenty of time to navigate the frozen bridges and slowly spinning hunks of metal on your way to work.
No worries, though at 5pm you get to do it all over again. So, whaddya want for dinner? Power's out, wanna go get some wood for the stove? We'll be done eating and hand washing dishes by 10. Ok goodnight, lady. See you in about 4 hours.


Or, just go for a swim.
 
2012-06-22 03:30:34 AM  

johne3819: Chalk me up with the 'it's easier to get warmer than cooler' crowd. But I try and keep it reasonable. I set the A/C at 81 or so when it's really hot and humid, but lower when I know it's not going to cause it run all the time. At 81, I've found the A/C brings down the humidity enough to make it tolerable. But I do prefer 70 or so.

/Put on some sweats or get a blanket


It's not though and you can see it in energy usage. Cold places use more energy heating up than warm places use cooling down. There's two reasons:

1) AC's move heat, instead of generate it. This lets them be "more than 100% efficient," in terms of energy spent and work done. A good AC can easily move 5-6 watts of heat with just 1 watt of energy. A heater generates heat, so it cannot generate more than 1 watt of heat with 1 watt of power. This all applies just as well when you are talking gas or oil heaters, it is all energy, no matter what the form.

2) Less temperature delta. Even really hot places don't get as hot as cold places get cold. Like take Arizona. You get 105 degrees easy, maybe a few 115 degree days. So say 75 degrees is your ideal temperature. Means you have to cool between 30-40 degrees to hit ideal. Ok now say you live somewhere cold, not even really cold. Say Ohio. It regularly hits 32 degrees or lower (120ish days a year) and does 20-25 often, with lower possible. Well that means you are talking 48-55 degrees you need to change the temperature. Even if you say you will take it 10 degrees colder, you still are talking 38+ degrees of heating. Then if you get somewhere that gets really cold it gets much more, in Alberta, you can need 100 degrees of heating.

Sure for moderate changes, it is easier on a personal level. If you are in 65 degrees and would rather be in 75 degrees a sweater will probably make you happy, whereas in 85 degrees even going ass nekkid you might still feel warm. However all in all it is way easier to cool due to AC. It uses a ton less energy and you don't have to swing the temperature as much.
 
2012-06-22 03:39:33 AM  
www.global-air.com

Without Willis Carrier, our lives would be considerably more uncomfortable, and vast areas of the world would be uninhabited. There certainly wouldn't be a Las Vegas. (new window)
 
2012-06-22 04:00:41 AM  
Air conditioning is what made America fat.

/look at your electric bill. you paid for a lot of electrical energy to keep from sweating your ass off trying to get cool. So you stored your calories that you didn't need as fat.
 
2012-06-22 04:07:43 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Meh, I'd rather be too hot than too cold. If I'm too hot, I can at least peel off layers. When it's too cold, I'm too busy trying to warm myself up to focus on much else. And air conditioners are ALWAYS too farking cold.


You do not live in Florida. Come on down in August. Get naked. You'll be hot still.
 
2012-06-22 04:09:26 AM  
au contraire
 
2012-06-22 04:22:02 AM  

hubiestubert: Air Conditioning made Miami and Phoenix livable...


You say that like it's a good thing. Actually, it already was habitable by the people who belong there.
 
2012-06-22 04:23:34 AM  
Sorry, you Greenie-Weenies, but if you try to take away our air-conditioners, you're in for a backlash the likes of which even God has never seen.
 
2012-06-22 04:23:40 AM  

Richard Saunders: As soon as I ascend to Floridian dictatorship, first thing I'll do is discontinue/disallow residential air conditioning.

Goodbye, uncommitted residents.

#2 - bye, bye flood control structures; and bye, bye "hangers on" living in places you ought'nt...

/vote for me
//vote for me
///it'll be fun
////you don't want #3
;)


I will destroy you.
 
2012-06-22 04:41:47 AM  
Lowering entropy is work.
 
2012-06-22 05:01:12 AM  

violentsalvation: The My Little Pony Killer: Meh, I'd rather be too hot than too cold. If I'm too hot, I can at least peel off layers. When it's too cold, I'm too busy trying to warm myself up to focus on much else. And air conditioners are ALWAYS too farking cold.

You can always add a layer when you are cold. When you get too hot and you are standing around buttnaked you can't rip off your skin, fat, and muscles. Well, I guess you could try..


...or give your neighbor bath salts and they'll tear your skin off for you.
 
2012-06-22 05:10:47 AM  
Lies! No great American novel has been scribed since the advent of air conditioning!
 
2012-06-22 05:18:36 AM  

Nuclear Pancake: Richard Saunders: As soon as I ascend to Floridian dictatorship, first thing I'll do is discontinue/disallow residential air conditioning.

Goodbye, uncommitted residents.

#2 - bye, bye flood control structures; and bye, bye "hangers on" living in places you ought'nt...

/vote for me
//vote for me
///it'll be fun
////you don't want #3
;)

I will destroy you.


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Former Florida governor Nathan Explosion doesn't care and goes back to eating chips.

a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
 
2012-06-22 05:36:18 AM  
I don't recall where I read the following, but I remember the concept.

Essentially, the idea is that air conditioning is partly to blame for us being a bunch of assholes to each other. Before air conditioning, in order to cool down in the later part of the day, people used to go sit on their porches to get out of their houses that had heated up during the day. Neighbors would stop on their way by and chat for a bit and people communicated. Then along comes air conditioning... now nobody (except poor folks who can't afford air conditioning) is sitting on their porch. There isn't anyone talking to their neighbor or sharing a cool drink over a pleasant conversation on the porch... People aren't waving and saying hello. It's everyone locked up inside of closed windows with the drapes drawn to keep out the sun and the air conditioning making it a cool and comfortable place for you to live. So folks don't meet as often, don't interact as often, and don't give a shiat about each other as often. Well... that was the theory, more or less.

Now... is it right? Maybe it is a contributing factor in why we such assholes to our fellow Americans. I don't know, but it makes sense to me.
 
2012-06-22 05:43:51 AM  
Ummm... wtf did I just read?
 
2012-06-22 06:17:42 AM  
You see those old photos and movies of office workers in the 1950's in their silly wool suits and ties, and the women in their armor-plate business-suits, going to work in the 90-degree heat in non-air conditioned offices and you catch yourself wondering just how we all survived, whereas today people wear "business casual" clothing and take air-conditioned cars and transit to work in air-conditioned offices...

Yest today they all complain bitterly about the thermostat settings, usually the whining biatchy women "...too cold.." vs the men who claim they don't want to sweat into their keyboards...
 
2012-06-22 06:25:10 AM  

Linkster: The My Little Pony Killer: Meh, I'd rather be too hot than too cold. If I'm too hot, I can at least peel off layers. When it's too cold, I'm too busy trying to warm myself up to focus on much else. And air conditioners are ALWAYS too farking cold.

Give me a call when it's 120F outside and the AC can't keep up.


120 degrees in the shade? I called that Djibouti, 2005. The man who invented air conditioning should be sainted, given the congressional medal of honor, 72 virgins, and a personal visit from Ed McMahon.
 
2012-06-22 06:52:05 AM  

JW: [farm5.staticflickr.com image 640x458]

This has nothing to do with anything other than it comes up on a GIS search for "your blog sucks"


Is she of age? Does it matter?
 
2012-06-22 07:11:15 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

Actually... it's ICE
 
2012-06-22 07:22:13 AM  

planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x195]

Without Willis Carrier, our lives would be considerably more uncomfortable, and vast areas of the world would be uninhabited. There certainly wouldn't be a Las Vegas. (new window)


The article certainly doesn't treat air conditioning all that favorably. With reason; there's some zero-sum in everything new.
 
2012-06-22 07:22:50 AM  
DNRTFA

The French anti-globalization and so-called "new right" scholar Alain de Benoist once wrote of America, "It is an air conditioned hell."
 
2012-06-22 07:28:55 AM  
It makes America great and cool. It also is my livelihood. I'm an HVACR Master mechanic.
 
2012-06-22 07:31:55 AM  

studebaker hoch: Now if only we could get air conditioning *parts*.

Nobody in my town will sell me anything over the counter unless I'm licensed.

/Guild mentality sucks.


What is it you need fellow Farker?
 
2012-06-22 07:38:15 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Wangiss: It's why America doesn't have sweatshops.

That's a very good point. Everybody gets air conditioning these days. That's equality, right?


Most people in northern Michigan and Wisconsin do not have a/c. Where is your equality now?
 
2012-06-22 07:38:35 AM  
AC caused population explosions, its what causes the obesity epidemic.
 
2012-06-22 07:53:41 AM  

Buffet: It makes America great and cool. It also is my livelihood. I'm an HVACR Master mechanic.


Dude, I bow down.

The guy who does my HVAC has been doing the three houses here on the farm for more than 40 years. Never takes him more than a moment or two to figure out what's wrong, always has good advice when its time to upgrade or switch - like when he advised me a few years ago to switch from LP to natural gas. That has saved me a couple thousand dollars so far.

Plus he tells hilarious farkin' dirty jokes.
 
2012-06-22 08:00:08 AM  

danpanic77: violentsalvation: The My Little Pony Killer: Meh, I'd rather be too hot than too cold. If I'm too hot, I can at least peel off layers. When it's too cold, I'm too busy trying to warm myself up to focus on much else. And air conditioners are ALWAYS too farking cold.

You can always add a layer when you are cold. When you get too hot and you are standing around buttnaked you can't rip off your skin, fat, and muscles. Well, I guess you could try..

When it's 120 and you're hot, you can lay in the shade and do squat. When it's -5 and you're cold, you're farked.


I don't think you're familiar with how human bodies work. We produce heat. Add proper insulation and we're fine with any low temperature. Add more heat and, once you run out of sweat, have fun being dead.
 
2012-06-22 08:09:59 AM  
Natural state: Humans can live where it's hot. Hot days are mostly spent SITTING IN THE SHADE trying not to die.

Modern state: Life goes on. Simply opting out and sitting in the shade on all hot days is not an option. A/C is the solution.
 
2012-06-22 08:22:30 AM  
That post was bad, and the author should feel bad.
 
2012-06-22 08:29:30 AM  

tetsoushima: JW: [farm5.staticflickr.com image 640x458]

This has nothing to do with anything other than it comes up on a GIS search for "your blog sucks"

Is she of age? Does it matter?


Yes, apparently.

More pics, some NSFW, at her official site.

/fap
 
2012-06-22 08:30:14 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Buffet: It makes America great and cool. It also is my livelihood. I'm an HVACR Master mechanic.

Dude, I bow down.

The guy who does my HVAC has been doing the three houses here on the farm for more than 40 years. Never takes him more than a moment or two to figure out what's wrong, always has good advice when its time to upgrade or switch - like when he advised me a few years ago to switch from LP to natural gas. That has saved me a couple thousand dollars so far.

Plus he tells hilarious farkin' dirty jokes.


Glad to hear it. Makes my day. Remember only "hot" chics call A/C guys!
 
2012-06-22 08:33:22 AM  
It pays my bills and gives me nice long work days in the summer-like yesterday.
 
2012-06-22 08:35:55 AM  
This was originally presented in counterpoint with an article about how "Air conditioning makes you weak" by Hamilton Nolan (a complete and utter troll if I saw one.). It wasn't really intended as a solo piece so much as a sort of "Oh YEAH??" to Nolan's trollish nonsense.

And, Gawker can be pretty darn entertaining. So quitcherbiatchin and go back to watching your albino midget amputee porn, haters.
 
2012-06-22 08:36:42 AM  
It certainly helped the South. We wouldn't get a damn thing done here without air conditioning.
 
2012-06-22 09:06:18 AM  

Queensowntalia: This was originally presented in counterpoint with an article about how "Air conditioning makes you weak" by Hamilton Nolan (a complete and utter troll if I saw one.). It wasn't really intended as a solo piece so much as a sort of "Oh YEAH??" to Nolan's trollish nonsense.

And, Gawker can be pretty darn entertaining. So quitcherbiatchin and go back to watching your albino midget amputee porn, haters.


Gawker has been up and down over the years, but lately it's been "up" with a host of new writers. Hamilton Nolan is a holdover from one of the weaker periods, IMHO. Kinda like SNL - good years, bad years.

They will probably never be as funny as when Alex Balk and Choire Sicha were running the joint, but luckily you can find them at The Awl these days.
 
2012-06-22 09:09:31 AM  
Home air-conditioning was quite rare when I was but a lad in the wild tundra of Canuckistan. Nowadays it seems essential.
We had a heat-wave this week in south Ontario and the little snowflakes in unconditioned schools nearly melted!

Climate change? You bet your sweaty fat ass it's real!
 
2012-06-22 09:11:57 AM  
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I'd still take too cold over too hot. Over 80 degrees and I'd rather not set foot outside. Perfect weather for me ~60, but comfortable range is 40-75. I am just so miserable being hot and there is nothing you can do, much easier to warm up. My whole family is like that, cold blooded northerners .

In my cars, top down weather is anything above 50.

/I may or may not have a Thyroid issue that is completely inconsequential.
 
2012-06-22 09:14:26 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Queensowntalia: This was originally presented in counterpoint with an article about how "Air conditioning makes you weak" by Hamilton Nolan (a complete and utter troll if I saw one.). It wasn't really intended as a solo piece so much as a sort of "Oh YEAH??" to Nolan's trollish nonsense.

And, Gawker can be pretty darn entertaining. So quitcherbiatchin and go back to watching your albino midget amputee porn, haters.

Gawker has been up and down over the years, but lately it's been "up" with a host of new writers. Hamilton Nolan is a holdover from one of the weaker periods, IMHO. Kinda like SNL - good years, bad years.

They will probably never be as funny as when Alex Balk and Choire Sicha were running the joint, but luckily you can find them at The Awl these days.


Aw, I usually like HamNo. Some of his stuff's quite good (the AC "article" being a weaksauce exception).

I don't like most of the new writers, excepting Caity Weaver, who's funny as hell.

Keep her, ditch the others and bring back Moylan and Lawson, sez I.
 
2012-06-22 09:19:48 AM  
Yay!

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// Really getting a kick, etc.
 
2012-06-22 09:24:20 AM  
Try a humid Texas summer night where it's 10pm and it's still 90+ outside. Now the AC is off and all you have is a box fan and you're soaking your sheets with sweat.
 
2012-06-22 09:28:45 AM  

Queensowntalia: OldManDownDRoad: Queensowntalia: This was originally presented in counterpoint with an article about how "Air conditioning makes you weak" by Hamilton Nolan (a complete and utter troll if I saw one.). It wasn't really intended as a solo piece so much as a sort of "Oh YEAH??" to Nolan's trollish nonsense.

And, Gawker can be pretty darn entertaining. So quitcherbiatchin and go back to watching your albino midget amputee porn, haters.

Gawker has been up and down over the years, but lately it's been "up" with a host of new writers. Hamilton Nolan is a holdover from one of the weaker periods, IMHO. Kinda like SNL - good years, bad years.

They will probably never be as funny as when Alex Balk and Choire Sicha were running the joint, but luckily you can find them at The Awl these days.

Aw, I usually like HamNo. Some of his stuff's quite good (the AC "article" being a weaksauce exception).

I don't like most of the new writers, excepting Caity Weaver, who's funny as hell.

Keep her, ditch the others and bring back Moylan and Lawson, sez I.


I think Weaver used to write the "Girl News" column for Vice, at least the name seems familiar as does the style. She's indeed pretty funny.

That slot (pardon the pun) at Vice has been filled by Kate Carraway and Kelly McClure, both of whom are pretty good although Carraway gets a little carried away at times - what is it with West Coast writers and their aversion to editing?
 
2012-06-22 09:55:18 AM  

mephisto6: Mostly what happens is, you stand in some shade. Maybe have some water once in awhile, and that's it.


You've obviously never lived anywhere with heat and humidity.
 
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