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2012-06-21 10:46:30 PM

FesterLDS: Didn't read the article, but my answer is "No. We should be worried about our own."


We have a space program?!

Dammmnnn... I thought we axed that shiat.
 
2012-06-21 10:54:51 PM
Yes... Space is stupid... Stupid space people...

Im just gonna go to Starbucks using my Iphone's GPS... OH WAIT.. Global Positioning SATELLITE




The short-sidedness of people never ceases to astound me. There are A MILLION reasons to be in space.
 
2012-06-21 11:02:40 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: FTFA
In 2007, the Chinese blew up one of their own satellites, scattering thousands of pieces of debris in orbital space and endangering lots of other satellites. This was a really stupid and dangerous stunt they pulled
You know we did the same thing a year later Link


No. We blew up one that was about to burn anyway--the debris would also soon burn. (Basic orbital mechanics: The orbit you end up in after applying an impulse includes the spot where you quit applying the impulse. Thus every piece of debris from the satellite we blew up spends at least part of it's orbit just outside the atmosphere where drag is a big factor.)



As for Chinese rockets--don't you need to burn it again an hour later?
 
2012-06-21 11:11:05 PM

OnlyM3: dennysgod

If Republicans keep up their axing of money for NASA then yes, we should be worried.

.2 / 10
Neil deGrasse Tyson calls you an idiot.

Obama budget cut NASA moon plan

Neil Armstrong | Obama's devastating Nasa cuts

Obama Administration Proposes Big Cuts to NASA's Mars Programs



Got you to drag out 4 links, I think I deserve more then a 0.2
 
2012-06-22 12:30:40 AM
 
2012-06-22 01:12:11 AM
Only thing that worries me about the Chicom going into space is the debris and bodies that will be raining down. Dollar Tree doo-dads are a little different from a space program, space requires creativity. GL w that, half assed copiers.
 
2012-06-22 01:34:45 AM
Captain_Ballbeard

Only thing that worries me about the Chicom going into space is the debris and bodies that will be raining down. Dollar Tree doo-dads are a little different from a space program, space requires creativity. GL w that, half assed copiers.

What's that flashing?!
 
2012-06-22 02:19:22 AM

Antimatter: stratagos: FesterLDS: Didn't read the article, but my answer is "No. We should be worried about our own."

We have one?

Yes, we do. We are in another transition phase between two vehicles. Ont he one hand, we have COTS and the commercial guys like Space X, and on the other, the MIC with the SLS program.

It's kind of like the Apollo to STS days.


Except that we've got a Congress that really doesn't want to spend a dime funding any of these programs. Just because the projects are in the works doesn't mean they'll make it to completion. Congress is already trying to screw with the competition process it approved for the commercial crew project.

My prediction is that our military space projects will continue to get funding, but that our manned space program is going to be shelved for "budgetary" reasons. Besides, we're already paying the Russians $63M per seat to send astronauts to the ISS. If ISS is going away by 2020, why worry about replacing the shuttle when we can just keep paying the Russians?

And the whole Moon, Mars, and Beyond project? Not in our lifetime. The rich folks in this country don't want to pay taxes for anything, especially this kind of pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Other countries will probably put something together and we'll wind up administrating it. We're good at bureaucracy. All the other stuff costs too much money.
 
2012-06-22 04:09:17 AM
The one point of the article I can't quiet understand is the depiction of a frenzied, focused national effort in the manner of Apollo as somehow undesirable. Why? Apollo is to this day the only program which has placed humanity upon another celestial body. If that is undesirable or somehow regarded as less than successful, dare I envision what a genuine failure would amount to?

/Cue the "Hurr Vikings versus Spaniards" take, neglecting there is no means of self-sustaining colonies (or monetary incentive) for us to have permanently manned colonies on the Moon or elsewhere. Once there's a reason to be there, we'll be there.
 
2012-06-22 05:36:55 AM
Well for some reason the US likes to spend all it's money on ever advanced war machines to fight people with 50 year old weaponary and sandals.
 
2012-06-22 08:19:00 AM

rickycal78: Or you could read the rest of my posts and realize that I think the whole proving "ideological superiority" was idiotic to start with, much less the methods and rationalizations behind it.


You are just trolling, right? I'm guessing you were born in '78, which means you aren't young enough to be this stupid. Just because you think "proving ideological superiority was idioitic" doesn't mean it didn't happen, nor does it mean that it won't or shouldn't happen again. It would actually be a good thing if it di, because then the USA would maybe get the fark back in the race. Even if it's a race for stupid reasons, it's a race that needs to happen.
 
2012-06-22 10:25:43 AM

Grither: rickycal78: Or you could read the rest of my posts and realize that I think the whole proving "ideological superiority" was idiotic to start with, much less the methods and rationalizations behind it.

You are just trolling, right? I'm guessing you were born in '78, which means you aren't young enough to be this stupid. Just because you think "proving ideological superiority was idioitic" doesn't mean it didn't happen, nor does it mean that it won't or shouldn't happen again. It would actually be a good thing if it di, because then the USA would maybe get the fark back in the race. Even if it's a race for stupid reasons, it's a race that needs to happen.


I wasn't saying it didn't happen, just that it was stupid. And no, it shouldn't happen again. I get what you're saying though. We need to get back into space. It's just extremely unfortunate that the only thing that would get the numbfarks we elected to start the space program again in earnest is the thought that some other nation is better than us.

Yeah in a way the space race was good, and we should most certainly be continuing our space programs. But it shouldn't be about "Well we're doing this to prove we're the better nation and have the better ideology." It should be about "Hey, lets see if we can do this. Let's see what's out there. Let's figure out everything we can out there." Yeah, take pride in doing shiat first, but don't make it a matter of which nation is better.
 
2012-06-22 10:33:02 AM
WHAT Chinese space program?

Have you aimed an antenna at the "manned missions" and listened for a signal? THERE ISN'T ONE. Its being faked.
 
2012-06-22 11:05:40 AM

rickycal78: Yeah in a way the space race was good, and we should most certainly be continuing our space programs. But it shouldn't be about "Well we're doing this to prove we're the better nation and have the better ideology." It should be about "Hey, lets see if we can do this. Let's see what's out there. Let's figure out everything we can out there." Yeah, take pride in doing shiat first, but don't make it a matter of which nation is better.


Sadly most people are too stupid to realize this, but will totally get behind (both politically and financially) "GO AMERICA! BEAT THOSE CHINESE FARKERS TO SPACE! COMMUNISN SUCKS!"
 
2012-06-22 11:09:47 AM

rickycal78: The article and the blog the author quotes are absofarkinglutely farktarded.
"It could go two ways. Either China will become an ally like modern Russia, or it could become an adversary like the former Soviet Union...But China isn't really a threat yet, at least not enough of one that NASA would enter into another space race."

A threat? To farking what? "OMG the farking Chinese are in space!" Just what is the farking threat exactly? A space race? What would be the point?

The space race of the old days was something I never truly understood. "OMG we can't let the commies be the first ones to land on the moon, it'll be the end of life as we know it!" Really? That was a worry? That someone else would get there first? Who gives a shiat who does any of that kind of shiat first? Do the farking thing and share the god damned results and findings with the rest of the world! I mean is it really so farking hard? People still care about bragging rights to stuff like that as if it's something important, which nation did what first? Are we humans incapable of doing something new or crazy in space just as a way to show that it can be done instead of "Haha, we did it first! We're the superior country! Suck my American/Chinese balls!"

Nothing wrong with a little competition to help push the boundaries of what's possible, or as a way of saying "Hey, they can do it, so can we!", or "Hey, they did it, lets see if we can do it better!" but there's not a single damned thing that's truly important about who does what first in space. NOT A FARKING THING! Now get the fark out there and prove space can be colonized so the rest of us folks can get the fark off this rock. Preferably in my lifetime.


Can't let the commies have our land. They haven't even had a flag for very long.
 
2012-06-22 04:39:36 PM
nope
 
2012-06-23 12:57:38 AM
The Moon Race was because we feared the Russians might claim, and have legal ownership of, the Moon.

That could have 100% sucked.

We had to not allow it to happen.

So we landed first, and on the descent stage we left behind, was this sign:

starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov

In Russian, this loosely translates to "NO you can't have the Moon. Not yours."

It's still up there tonight.
 
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