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2012-06-22 12:02:01 AM

Cubicle Jockey: Theaetetus: I'm okay with it.

Did you buy the game within the past day or two?


Nope. But yes, there's a bug that affects .0001% of purchasers. I think Blizzard should give them each a $10 credit in the RMAH once it's fixed. No one else is affected, and if you purchase the game tomorrow, you can only play for a somewhat unreasonable time before you're unlocked and can play for truly unreasonable times.
 
2012-06-22 12:05:38 AM

Gergesa: /Hopes The Secret World will be worth consideration


Did beta last weekend. It's ugly with everything cranked to 11 and the combat is really bad.
 
2012-06-22 12:06:35 AM

Gergesa: Kuroshin: /played AO from launch day
//stuck around for more than two years for some reason...
///I think I was really drunk

MMmmm right.....2 years is a long time to invest in a game that is worse than rectal cancer supposedly. Yes the launch was buggy. I played after that... somewhere in 2005.

Adventurers are the best class.

/Hopes The Secret World will be worth consideration


I ain't arguing that point. I still don't know why I hung around. At first it was because my then-gf-now-wife and I lived thirty miles apart and wanted something to play together. We kept playing after moving in together over a year later. Was a prominent member of a prominent clan. Guess I just couldn't walk away from all the time and energy I'd put into my toon. Had some unique pre-nerf implants and gear, and a rather unique build on my Agent. My bedroom was at one time entirely wallpapered with formulae on skills, implants, buffs, and gear, and what must be equipped and in what order while working up the buff ladder in the n00b gardens wrangling leets.

But the actual gameplay? Pure garbage. So many bugs, so many server-side problems, such a crap game client... Rubber-banding all over instanced dungeons, being killed from ten rooms away due to glitchy AI and collision detection, mission items simply not spawning within the instance so quests couldn't be completed, etc.

The only "game" there was in the spreadsheets on how to twink your toon to the very max. A game of building the highest numbers for your given level. Sandbagging levels by burning XP as you got closer to level-up...

Ugh. So much work for so little payoff. No statics worth running. No story at all. Just one giant empty world. Spent a month mapping out the entire game. Found nothing. Even after player cities were added, they were just empty nothings. Boring PvP that meant nothing. Instanced dungeons full of nothing. Major cities full of nothing. Glitchy, buggy, empty nothing.

Before I quit, I flew myself up as high as I could, un-equipped my plane, and fell just to see what would happen.

Nothing happened.

Such a waste.
 
2012-06-22 12:36:39 AM

Gergesa: Kuroshin:/Hopes The Secret World will be worth consideration


The Secret World closed beta NDA was lifted today. I have been a closed beta tester for the last few months...

If you are a hardcore raider, you will probably be disappointed, at least at launch.

If you are the type of player that rushes to the end game and plays 6-8 hours a day you will probably enjoy the game for a couple of months.

If you are the type of player that likes the WoW model and has all the mission objectives spoon fed to you, you will probably be disappointed. TSW has some tough missions that require you to pay attention to your journal and your surroundings, Some missions will require you to do some research outside of the game to complete.

If you like theory craft and messing around with builds, you will enjoy TSW. It's a classless system so you can spend points all over the place in various active and passive abilities to perfect your builds. There are some pre-set 'decks' you can build which are a group of skills that have good synergy if you choose not to mess with your own perfect builds. Completing decks also will unlock special outfits you can wear.

You can also create and save multiple builds so you can have a tank, healer, and dps on one character, instead of a stable of alts.

PvP offers a few basic battle grounds but also features a 50vs50vs50 three way PvP zone which can give your faction bonuses to exp gain and combat skills depending on who controls what on the battlefield. However, as I mentioned earlier it is a classless game so expect lots of skill tweaks due to balance issues as the game matures.

There is no open world PvP however.

If you are sick of fantasy and sci fi games, TSW is set in the modern world and has a horror/adventure feel to it. It's got great atmosphere and can be downright creepy at times.

The devs have promised frequent, free content updates (a'la Rift) and if they can live up to this, the game should have some staying power. I've had a blast so far and over the last few months have seen more and more polish as the game comes close to launch. Funcom has done well in my book and seems to have learned from their past mistakes.

Me and the wife bought lifetime subs so we plan on sticking around awhile!
 
2012-06-22 01:13:35 AM

ZeroCorpse: I gave up on Blizzard when it became clear to me that their whole focus now is getting people to pay for things in-game. They're not so far from Zynga's model at this point, and when you add their DRM and attitude to the fact that their games aren't anywhere near as fun (or original) as they used to be, it comes to a point where they're not worth the effort or forgiveness.

So f♥ck Blizzard. F♥ck them and their Big Brother gaming.


If you think Blizz is "pay for items", you're an idiot. Flat out.

Go play STO or D&DO and then come back to WoW. I am completely capped in STO by not sinking tons of money into it. Nothing, nothing is so locked in WoW. The only things you buy in game are a few pets and mounts, and the TCG has about a dozen non-combat vanity items (like a sword rack with foam swords for playing around pre-raid, or a little pile of gold that gives you a temporary kobold pet). These things aren't microtransactions in that they don't give you any in game advantage, and they're not the focus of the game. They're a little option that makes the company some money. You have 100% the play experience with or without them. And it's entirely likely that with the forthcoming Black Market Auction House - a gold sink for the games wealthiest players to get rare, discontinued or challenging items - there's a way to buy them with in-game gold.

You pay your access fee for WoW and if you wish, there's some extras if you like riding around on pretty gold dragons or sparkly horses (Or miniature pet versions of these). You don't pay any extra for access to Battle.net for either Diablo 3 or SC2. They also don't require any sort of additional purchases to play. Hell, Diablo 3 pays YOU to play if you choose to work in the Real Money Auction House.

You're simply incorrect. Blizz is not bleeding anyone dry. It's giving some players who want something pretty an option. That's it.
 
2012-06-22 02:21:06 AM
Soooooooooo 4th day CC fraud is ok, k? k.

/derp
 
2012-06-22 02:54:43 AM
What's really sad is, if you get rid of all the BS, Diablo 3 is an excellent game.

/Finished Normal mode. Story's nice, combo's nice.
//Don't feel like doing the higher difficulties or MP yet.
///Rune words, bring them back please.
 
2012-06-22 05:24:11 AM
What a bunch of preposterous snivelling. It's a goddamn game, you twerps. It doesn't have to meet your ridiculous list of arbitrary criteria - it just has to be fun.
it's really a good thing that the obsessive-compulsive anal retentives we call "serious gamers" are being marginalized and ignored more and more by the indusrty - they are idiot , autistic children, and the product is vastly improved without their input.
 
2012-06-22 05:35:44 AM

HeartBurnKid: foo monkey: HeartBurnKid: foo monkey: This only applies to the real money auction house. It's to reduce fraud and theft. Non-story. Everything else is playable.



FTFA: As of patch 1.0.3, when purchasing a digital version of Diablo III through the online store or your Battle.net Account, players are restricted to the Starter Edition for the first 72 hours (sometimes less). Players on Starter Editions have the following restrictions:

Act I up to the Skeleton King is available
Level 13 cap
Matchmaking available only with other Starter Edition players
No Auction House access (Real Money or Gold)
Global Play is not available. Players attempting to connect to Diablo III Starter Edition in a region other than their Battle.net Account's home region will receive Error 12. See the Global Play support article for more information.

Your response took more effort than reading the next post in the thread. Doubly as I'm sure you were whacking off the whole time.

So, were you whacking off the whole time you weren't reading the article, then?


Zero time reading would mean zero time whacking it as you say, or am I missing something?
 
2012-06-22 06:13:01 AM

TheKillingJoke: What's really sad is, if you get rid of all the BS, Diablo 3 is an excellent game.

/Finished Normal mode. Story's nice, combo's nice.
//Don't feel like doing the higher difficulties or MP yet.
///Rune words, bring them back please.


It is, in fact, an excellent game. The feel of the combat is incredibly satisfying - almost tactile.
The so-called "bullshiat" means nothing to me.
Always online? I've been playing DII online only for the past several years - it's far more convenent. And there are millions like me.
The auction house? I have no intention of ever entering it.
The other complaints? Too minor and obsessive compulsive to bother addressing.
People can complain all they want - me and millions of others are having a ball.
And if "serious gamers" are all that cheesed off about DRM, maybe they should stop stealing other people's IP.
It's. Just. A. Game.
 
2012-06-22 06:26:40 AM

Occam's Disposable Razor: Whiplash!!!: List of games that are just fun to play:

You want to add a game that Steam frequently deeply discounts to that list?
Mount and Blade: Warband

It's starting to get a little dated, but damn I got my money's worth out of that title in $ per hour


I had to uninstall M&B after a couple weeks of playing, it was taking up too much of my time. Damn that game is addictive. At least, for me.
 
2012-06-22 06:50:39 AM
For me, it's not just about the DRM/always on crap, it's also that they want like £40 and Steam is doing Torchlight 2 pre-order (including Torchlight 1) for £15.
 
2012-06-22 07:09:40 AM

farkeruk: For me, it's not just about the DRM/always on crap, it's also that they want like £40 and Steam is doing Torchlight 2 pre-order (including Torchlight 1) for £15.


Really? The other day, the missus and I went to a movie. It was a matinee, and we are seniors. We spent $20 on two hours of entertainment. That's 1/3 of a Diablo III.
So to beat that, Diablo III has to give me 7 hours of entertainment. It's already given me several times that, and I'm hardly started in the game (although my efforts have been devided between two toons).
On the other hand, Torchlight rocked, and everybody should buy TII at the price, if they like these kinds of games.
I have checked with the Ministry of Games, and they inform me that it is legal for an individual to purchase both games.
 
2012-06-22 07:21:26 AM

jso2897: TheKillingJoke: What's really sad is, if you get rid of all the BS, Diablo 3 is an excellent game.

/Finished Normal mode. Story's nice, combo's nice.
//Don't feel like doing the higher difficulties or MP yet.
///Rune words, bring them back please.

It is, in fact, an excellent game. The feel of the combat is incredibly satisfying - almost tactile.
The so-called "bullshiat" means nothing to me.
Always online? I've been playing DII online only for the past several years - it's far more convenent. And there are millions like me.
The auction house? I have no intention of ever entering it.
The other complaints? Too minor and obsessive compulsive to bother addressing.
People can complain all they want - me and millions of others are having a ball.
And if "serious gamers" are all that cheesed off about DRM, maybe they should stop stealing other people's IP.
It's. Just. A. Game.


Oh I completely agree. I wasn't going all butthurt about Activision's taint as I could easily get over it. It's just a shame that such a great game that's pushed the genre in a new direction that was easy to pick up and just plain fun is being judged by the BS outside the game. It's like no one talks about how great the new system is, deeply satisfying trying out new loadouts on the fly is, and setting up multi-kills for some sweet XP bonuses because of crap like DRM, Real Money Auction House and always online.

At the other end of the spectrum, Torchlight is getting praises for being not those things without a single clue on what the gameplay will be. Will it be more of the same in Rogue-likes or will it push the genre like D3 did? Doesn't matter, they don't have DRM and D3's offgame crap, it's GOLD JERRY!

Which is unfair for both games, as they aren't judged by their own merits.
 
2012-06-22 07:27:11 AM

TheKillingJoke: jso2897: TheKillingJoke: What's really sad is, if you get rid of all the BS, Diablo 3 is an excellent game.

/Finished Normal mode. Story's nice, combo's nice.
//Don't feel like doing the higher difficulties or MP yet.
///Rune words, bring them back please.

It is, in fact, an excellent game. The feel of the combat is incredibly satisfying - almost tactile.
The so-called "bullshiat" means nothing to me.
Always online? I've been playing DII online only for the past several years - it's far more convenent. And there are millions like me.
The auction house? I have no intention of ever entering it.
The other complaints? Too minor and obsessive compulsive to bother addressing.
People can complain all they want - me and millions of others are having a ball.
And if "serious gamers" are all that cheesed off about DRM, maybe they should stop stealing other people's IP.
It's. Just. A. Game.

Oh I completely agree. I wasn't going all butthurt about Activision's taint as I could easily get over it. It's just a shame that such a great game that's pushed the genre in a new direction that was easy to pick up and just plain fun is being judged by the BS outside the game. It's like no one talks about how great the new system is, deeply satisfying trying out new loadouts on the fly is, and setting up multi-kills for some sweet XP bonuses because of crap like DRM, Real Money Auction House and always online.

At the other end of the spectrum, Torchlight is getting praises for being not those things without a single clue on what the gameplay will be. Will it be more of the same in Rogue-likes or will it push the genre like D3 did? Doesn't matter, they don't have DRM and D3's offgame crap, it's GOLD JERRY!

Which is unfair for both games, as they aren't judged by their own merits.


My point is, all this petty biatching is coming from a tiny contingent of rainman type "serious gamers". Normal people love the game, and have made it one of the better sellers in history.
"Serious Gamers" need to understand something about normal people - they outnumber "serious gamers" 1000 to 1. And as time goes by, they and their tastes will increasingly dictate the direction gaming will take. For years, they biatched that gaming was "marginalized as an artform" - well, it's gone mainstream now, so deal with it.
 
2012-06-22 07:56:51 AM
Tried DIII during the free demo weekend. Had lag spikes and rubber banding in single player (and it wasn't my system, since GW2 plays fine during its weekends). Skipped the game, started a small garden instead.

Now my friends are considering buying in-game items for money, while I have more fresh rosemary and basil than I know what to do with. No regrets.

/still getting torchlight 2 when it comes out
 
2012-06-22 08:13:14 AM
Screw Blizzard and Screw D3. Saw D2 3 years in a row at E3 and was bored by the time it came out. This looks to be more of the same only with the bonus of online and money bullshiat mixed in.

The only way to get these companies to change their tune is to not buy. So I don't.

Looking forward to Borderlands 2 though. Gearbox does right by their customers. The remake of XCOM looks pretty snazzy as well.
 
2012-06-22 08:57:45 AM

Tusz: Tried DIII during the free demo weekend. Had lag spikes and rubber banding in single player (and it wasn't my system, since GW2 plays fine during its weekends). Skipped the game, started a small garden instead.

Now my friends are considering buying in-game items for money, while I have more fresh rosemary and basil than I know what to do with. No regrets.

/still getting torchlight 2 when it comes out


Umm, the "free demo weekend" you are talking about was the public beta for stressing the servers so they could determine what needed to be changed for it's release. It was to be expected since they were determining the bare minimum amount of hardware needed. No issues with lag since release for me.
 
2012-06-22 09:00:52 AM

fusillade762: And the original Bioshock. I find myself getting overwhelmed with all the weapons and options available. That was why I loved the original Far Cry (and Halo) because it forced you to pick two weapons at the start of each level and that's all you got. I enjoy the kind of tactical thinking that requires.


Just play Bioshock with Wrench + Lightening. Makes skill choices easy and gives a nice challenge.
 
2012-06-22 09:03:27 AM

jso2897: And if "serious gamers" are all that cheesed off about DRM, maybe they should stop stealing other people's IP.


The people who stole this don't have to deal with this bullshiat. It's only the paying customers.

Enjoy your Stockholm Syndrome.
 
2012-06-22 09:06:56 AM
This is Blizzard trying ANYTHING to keep the Chinese Gold Farmer's from endlessly creating accounts over and over and over. Sure, Blizzard is making a boatload of money off their auctions, but they have to APPEAR to be doing something to combat them, and I truly believe they are trying to combat them.

The main focus is making sure players connecting from China are playing on Chinese Servers, but what Blizzard already knew, and most folks don't realize, is they are using VPN technology to make connections in Canada, so appearing to be playing from North America in order to create accounts in North America. This 72 hour lock out is their attempt to catch the Chinese Gold Farmers on American servers. It will fail, but at least they can say they've enacted counter measures.

All that said, gaming has turned it's ugly head to capture an even younger market. Back in the day, teens were the most prevalent purchasers of video games, but those teen agers are now middle aged adults with kids of their own, and they still play games. But, they don't have the time to play them, and they're open to their own kids gaming, so the gaming generation is now younger. A few of my friends kids have been playing WoW since before they can spell, it's been with them their 'whole life' or at least as long as they can remember. This is not a rant on parenting, btw.

But I digress, Blizzard knows these kids are playing their games, and them, as well as every other gaming company, is gearing games towards this very young audience, and in doing so, creates a Brand in the child's mind. Snag them young, and stick with them forever. It's like cars, here in America, people are Chevy or Ford guys, and they both laugh at the MOPAR guys, but truth is, most people will stick with a car company for reasons they can't explain because the brand was set into the forming minds at a young age. Seriously! Which would you rather have: Ford, Chevy or Dodge truck? In your mind you've formed who makes the best truck. This is how it's working with games now.

BY getting them young, they can keep them their whole life, or at least keep them playing their products instead of someone else's products. Most complaints about D3 are it's easy. There's a reason for that, regardless of the game rating, it was made for young children to play. Sure, the game gets more difficult when you go to the next run through, but it's honestly made for single digit aged kids. No one in Blizzard will ever admit this, but it's true. Look at their product selection and releases and tell me this is false. I'm sure a fanboi will pick up that torch and run right at me with it, and that's the point I am trying to make. They want these fanbois that don't think past the product, they are banking on it! It's what ALL companies want, but the skinner boxes of gaming products are the perfect storm for this attitude.

It's been an age old question of ethics forever and a day, all companies with products go through it, there was the tobacco and alcohol companies with cute mascots trying to snag a younger generation, there's the soda companies gearing their product towards the youth, fast food, etc. They know if they can form the habit before the person has formed an opinion, or the ability to form opinions, they'll have a lifelong customer.

Get them young, get them hooked, count the earnings.
 
2012-06-22 09:08:15 AM

Whiplash!!!: ist of games I've purchased within the last year (via steam sale) that I cannot bring myself to finish:

1. Crysis 2
2. Bioshock 2.
3. Rage
4. Metro 2033
5. Far Cry 2


-I played Bioshock 2 until the point where the player acquires the research video camera. That thing was so poorly implemented that I dread having to grind out research experience points and I haven't touched the game since about February or March.
 
2012-06-22 09:14:48 AM

Barry McCackiner: Diablo III is more fun and is a better all-around game than Diablo II.


It's only been 12 years. I don't think that 'A better game' is something you get to show off.

"This is my Lamborghini Diablo. It's more fun and is a better all around car then my Model T"
 
2012-06-22 09:18:52 AM

farkeruk: For me, it's not just about the DRM/always on crap


But they have to randomly generate weapons and loot. for single player.

No personal computer has a random number generator! It's IMPOSSIBLE!
 
2012-06-22 09:24:21 AM

optimistic_cynic: Tusz: Tried DIII during the free demo weekend. Had lag spikes and rubber banding in single player (and it wasn't my system, since GW2 plays fine during its weekends). Skipped the game, started a small garden instead.

Now my friends are considering buying in-game items for money, while I have more fresh rosemary and basil than I know what to do with. No regrets.

/still getting torchlight 2 when it comes out

Umm, the "free demo weekend" you are talking about was the public beta for stressing the servers so they could determine what needed to be changed for it's release. It was to be expected since they were determining the bare minimum amount of hardware needed. No issues with lag since release for me.


It's just not a problem that should ever come up in single player. I won't have to worry about not being able to play torchlight if the server or my wifi is down.
 
2012-06-22 09:48:35 AM

Whiplash!!!: List of games I've recently purchased that I am playing through a second time:

1. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl.
2. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat



If you haven't, install the Oblivion Lost patch for SoC. I had a LOT more fun on the second play-through.
 
2012-06-22 09:56:41 AM
Somewhere out there, Gabe Newell looks at Blizzard and laughs.

/Screw you guys, Phantasy Star Online 2 beta is open.
 
2012-06-22 10:09:35 AM
I'm glad i bought my Dad his copy before this bullshiat. It was a birthday present to him. I ordered 2 copies online , because i could give a damn about more junk packaging, i have enough things gathering dust in my house. It was as simple as getting him to download the installer, and me setting up the copy of the game on his battle.net account for him.

All he had to do was log in and we were off. I'm pretty sure he would have said this is a "load of horeshiat" to put it in his words.
 
2012-06-22 10:47:01 AM

jso2897: It's. Just. A. Game.


Yea. That's why I didn't buy it. Because I can't install and play it without dealing with downed servers, patch bullshiat, and intrusive DRM meant to protect something I have no interest in using and no option to opt out. Sitting around staring at errors all the time doesn't sound like fun to me.

jso2897: And if "serious gamers" are all that cheesed off about DRM, maybe they should stop stealing other people's IP.


Except that there are already D3 dummy servers available you can run locally that allow you to play without connecting to BattleNet using cracked copies of the client software. Which means the only people who aren't experiencing all these technical problems and garbage policies, as usual, are the ones who stole the game.

When the people who steal the game have an easier time playing it than the people who don't, maybe, just maybe, your DRM strategy wasn't that well thought-out.

But, whatever. There are plenty of quality games out there from companies that aren't intentionally attacking their own customers. I prefer to just walk away from Blizzard completely and give my money to people who aren't treating me like crap.

Meanwhile, you enjoy your business "relationship" with Blizzard...

media.modbee.com
 
2012-06-22 10:59:54 AM

Whiplash!!!: List of games that are just fun to play:

1. Any of the recent Total War titles.


I say all of them especially Rome: Total War.

I lose a weekend to them once in a while.

/ah, SoftICE and Diablo...
 
2012-06-22 11:06:27 AM
Was hoping to sell my broken crown ledgendary for some money but didn't get any bids. I guess prices are dropping as more people find them in the game.

I found it first day I played on Act 1 normal. My friends were pretty pissed as they got all the way through inferno without seeing a single ledgendary.
 
2012-06-22 11:12:00 AM
No mention of the UESC Marathon? Both the list and the thread fails.
 
2012-06-22 11:12:52 AM

djZorbof: Was hoping to sell my broken crown ledgendary for some money but didn't get any bids. I guess prices are dropping as more people find them in the game.

I found it first day I played on Act 1 normal. My friends were pretty pissed as they got all the way through inferno without seeing a single ledgendary.


You're charging too much probably. It's a Legendary, sure, but its also low level and will be eventually replaced. That coupled with the impending buff to Legendaries (won't be retroactive) is probably lowering what its worth. I'd say don't bother with the RMAH until you actually get to Inferno, that's gear that's not going to be as easy to replace for the average person.
 
2012-06-22 11:13:11 AM

devine: No mention of the UESC Marathon? Both the list and the thread fails.


Dammit, wrong thread.
 
2012-06-22 11:22:01 AM

foo monkey: Rent Party: You know, I don't play this game, but I read all the threads about it on Fark, and it makes me wonder why in Gawds name would *anyone* put up with this and give this company their money?

Is the game that awesome?

No. You finish the game on normal mode in 15 hours. Thats a blast. Then you unlock hard mode. Then you unlock harder mode. Then you unlock hardest mode. The story never changes. The gameplay never changes. The loot system is completely random. You're forced farm the same content over and over for gold. Then you buy gear off the auction house. That's it. That's the game.


You know, this is really what I'm struggling with. I've got a couple of toons into NM, one into Hell, and I'm struggling with the monotony of it all. The only variance is in the random elites, but that same variation may very well turn those enemies into unstoppable killing machines that quickly reduce enjoyment... and that's not even into Inferno! Definitely starting to become disenchanted with this game.
 
2012-06-22 11:27:21 AM

ijustwantaname: The only variance is in the random elites, but that same variation may very well turn those enemies into unstoppable killing machines that quickly reduce enjoyment...


MANDERP THE TERRIBLE
Lightning Enchanted, Arcane, Steals Life, Desolator

/playing a Monk
/FFFFFFFffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
2012-06-22 11:40:06 AM

Expolaris: ijustwantaname: The only variance is in the random elites, but that same variation may very well turn those enemies into unstoppable killing machines that quickly reduce enjoyment...

MANDERP THE TERRIBLE
Lightning Enchanted, Arcane, Steals Life, Desolator

/playing a Monk
/FFFFFFFffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


Waller, Jailer, Plagued/Desecrator, for me.

/Wizard
//Stuck in poop the majority of the time. After I die I just kite the enemies to a lonely corner and go around them...
///I need teleport on my bar but don't know what I should drop for it.
 
2012-06-22 12:23:07 PM

Tax Boy: The Flexecutioner: i have no problem staying 1-2 years behind the curve in gaming. i buy the products for WAY cheaper and several patches/dlcs later they are fixed and lots of the community that made games laggy are also gone. it is pure win for me. the same works for the hardware needed to run it, they were 50+% cheaper than when launched.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 640x217]


I resemble that remark...Just bought Neverwinter Nights Complete. Included NWN 1 (copyright 2002) with 3 expansions and NWN 2 with 3 expansions for $20.

//Won't buy Skyrim until the GOTY Super Everything Platinum Gold Box is under $30.
 
2012-06-22 01:01:16 PM

roc6783: Tax Boy: The Flexecutioner: i have no problem staying 1-2 years behind the curve in gaming. i buy the products for WAY cheaper and several patches/dlcs later they are fixed and lots of the community that made games laggy are also gone. it is pure win for me. the same works for the hardware needed to run it, they were 50+% cheaper than when launched.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 640x217]

I resemble that remark...Just bought Neverwinter Nights Complete. Included NWN 1 (copyright 2002) with 3 expansions and NWN 2 with 3 expansions for $20.

//Won't buy Skyrim until the GOTY Super Everything Platinum Gold Box is under $30.


that distilled me in a very truthful way, downside included, literally. last year i played portal 1 for the first time and a wave of post-i-get-it-now syndrome rolled over me. i dont belatedly go making the jokes anymore though. steam midweek 75% off sales for $30-$40 games for under $10 for the win. youtube videos to tell me how to get past the hard boards even more for the win. saves me hours that can be used on other several year old games. also borrowed 360 games from friends who will never play that game cuz they beat it for the win (skyrim im lookin at you).

/yes, im boring
 
2012-06-22 01:38:49 PM

The Flexecutioner: that distilled me in a very truthful way, downside included, literally. last year i played portal 1 for the first time and a wave of post-i-get-it-now syndrome rolled over me. i dont belatedly go making the jokes anymore though. steam midweek 75% off sales for $30-$40 games for under $10 for the win.


The thing about the world today is that we've been through a load of technology improving (phones, cars, games consoles, PCs, TVs, blu-ray, music) and it'shiat the point where being on the cutting edge really doesn't get you a lot more. OK, slightly more resolution and detail, but I'll live with being slightly behind and getting £10 games off Steam and buying £60 graphics cards. And spend the rest on booze.
 
2012-06-22 01:43:19 PM

djZorbof: Was hoping to sell my broken crown ledgendary for some money but didn't get any bids. I guess prices are dropping as more people find them in the game.

I found it first day I played on Act 1 normal. My friends were pretty pissed as they got all the way through inferno without seeing a single ledgendary.


shiat, I'm a level 50 Barb, just made it to Hell and I still have yet to find a single legendary or set item. :(

BTW what the hell are those black mushrooms for?
 
2012-06-22 01:43:32 PM
Personally... my wife and I are enjoying the hell out of D3. Our Barbarian/Monk combo just finished the Normal campaign, and we're between Queen Araneae and The Butcher on Nightmare.

Besides that, I'm trying to push a couple "true" Hardcore characters (no AH buys) through as well. My first attempt (Demon Hunter) got jacked coming out of Araneae's lair because there were a group of blues and a yellow between me and the portal... but my HC Monk is about to enter Leoric's castle.

I think my next HC character is going to be a Wizard... that's the only class I haven't played yet.

/Going to dive headfirst into both Borderlands 2 and Guild Wars 2 when they come out...
//And I still need to finish Skyrim one of these days...
///Geek world problems.
 
2012-06-22 02:31:17 PM

seanferd: BTW what the hell are those black mushrooms for?


They're used in forging the Staff of Herding, which is used to access the awesome secret level.
 
2012-06-22 02:43:22 PM

The Flexecutioner: roc6783: Tax Boy: The Flexecutioner: i have no problem staying 1-2 years behind the curve in gaming. i buy the products for WAY cheaper and several patches/dlcs later they are fixed and lots of the community that made games laggy are also gone. it is pure win for me. the same works for the hardware needed to run it, they were 50+% cheaper than when launched.

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I resemble that remark...Just bought Neverwinter Nights Complete. Included NWN 1 (copyright 2002) with 3 expansions and NWN 2 with 3 expansions for $20.

//Won't buy Skyrim until the GOTY Super Everything Platinum Gold Box is under $30.

that distilled me in a very truthful way, downside included, literally. last year i played portal 1 for the first time and a wave of post-i-get-it-now syndrome rolled over me. i dont belatedly go making the jokes anymore though. steam midweek 75% off sales for $30-$40 games for under $10 for the win. youtube videos to tell me how to get past the hard boards even more for the win. saves me hours that can be used on other several year old games. also borrowed 360 games from friends who will never play that game cuz they beat it for the win (skyrim im lookin at you).

/yes, im boring


I also have a wife and a 6 week old at home so going out and spending $50-60 on a game and then not playing it for more than 15 minutes for months at a time seems like a waste to me. Conversely, my 15 year old brother in law spends 6+ hours a day playing, so it makes sense for him to want games on release day.

//I have had NWN for 3 months and I would have completed the first chapter already, but I started a new character. The first chapter should take like 3 hours...
 
2012-06-22 03:17:14 PM
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/obligatory when dealing with Blizzard
 
2012-06-22 06:33:07 PM

Rent Party: You know, I don't play this game, but I read all the threads about it on Fark, and it makes me wonder why in Gawds name would *anyone* put up with this and give this company their money?

Is the game that awesome?


It... actually is.

The game, as a game, is really remarkable. The game devs should be proud of their work, and I won't hear of anyone bashing the game because of the sucky DRM.

But, ye gods, what a horrible DRM model they bolted it to. It's like you bought a high end sports car, but that some jackass decided to weld a combination lock on the door that prevents you from even getting into the car on some days.
 
2012-06-22 06:37:13 PM

NeoCortex42: I'm liking the game a lot. Just finished Nightmare difficulty with my Demon Hunter. My main complaint with the game is that it definitely prioritizes gold farming in order to buy the best gear on the auction house, instead of just finding good gear through normal progression. They've even nerfed a lot of farming to drive more people to the auction house.


I do wish that the drops were better, but I don't have much of a problem with the gold auction house. Making gold is easy enough to do, even when you don't farm, and you can always find excellent deals from people who clearly don't know how to value their equipment.

I basically treat the auction house as just being another type of merchant. A merchant with way too much inventory to manage, and with a really poor understanding of valuation that works to my advantage.
 
2012-06-22 08:28:39 PM

devine: devine: No mention of the UESC Marathon? Both the list and the thread fails.

Dammit, wrong thread.


"Get me outta here!"
 
2012-06-22 11:36:12 PM

croesius: devine: devine: No mention of the UESC Marathon? Both the list and the thread fails.

Dammit, wrong thread.

"Get me outta here!"


"Shtay a while and listen!"
 
2012-06-23 12:32:44 AM

TheKillingJoke: croesius: devine: devine: No mention of the UESC Marathon? Both the list and the thread fails.

Dammit, wrong thread.

"Get me outta here!"

"Shtay a while and listen!"


"Frog blast the vent core!"
 
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