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2012-06-21 01:38:01 PM  
"Boys! I finally did it! At long last you can come home!"
"That's great dad, but I'm 38 years old now."
 
2012-06-21 03:14:47 PM  
He could just *hide*, you know....

4.bp.blogspot.com

/you know the drill
 
2012-06-21 03:15:43 PM  
You keep your money, I'll take the baby.
 
2012-06-21 03:16:48 PM  
Seriously, who farked that guy?
 
2012-06-21 03:17:51 PM  
Wait! There are no fat people in Canda!?! They keep telling us only we Americans are fat! Next you'll try and tell me that Molson Canadian and Labatt Blue are no better than any mass-market American "like a canoe" beer!

/was in Ontario last weekend and can tell you for sure that there were a lot of fatties there.
 
2012-06-21 03:19:33 PM  

Mishno: Wait! There are no fat people in Canda!?! They keep telling us only we Americans are fat! Next you'll try and tell me that Molson Canadian and Labatt Blue are no better than any mass-market American "like a canoe" beer!

/was in Ontario last weekend and can tell you for sure that there were a lot of fatties there.


By GOD yes there are.....

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-06-21 03:20:09 PM  
You know, we aren't really hearing much, so it's hard to pass judgement here. Just let me say as a foster parent, I'm rather ambivalent about the state's ability to take children from their parents: I've seen cases where it was absolutely warranted, and I've seen at least one where it wasn't warranted (but luckily the system worked - Still took the mother a month to get her kid back).
 
2012-06-21 03:20:50 PM  

Mishno: Wait! There are no fat people in Canda!?! They keep telling us only we Americans are fat! Next you'll try and tell me that Molson Canadian and Labatt Blue are no better than any mass-market American "like a canoe" beer!

/was in Ontario last weekend and can tell you for sure that there were a lot of fatties there.


Molson Canadian and Labatt's Blue are no better than any mass-market American "like a canoe" beer. They both suck donkey balls.
 
2012-06-21 03:20:56 PM  

Mishno: /was in Ontario last weekend and can tell you for sure that there were a lot of fatties there.


Yes - they're called "other 'merikun tourists".
By the way, did you have to eat ALL the donuts at Timmy's?
 
2012-06-21 03:21:13 PM  
Meh, first person that dangles a cheeseburger and beer in front of his face will make him cave in.
 
2012-06-21 03:21:41 PM  
I was caught In provisions of Family Services Act (hunger)
Was too round And I knew there was no turning back (hunger)
My mind raced And I thought what could I do (hunger)
Can't get violent, they'll take 'em for that reason too (hunger)
Sound of the drums
Beatin' in my heart
They took both my sons
Tore me apart
You've been
- hungerstruck.
 
2012-06-21 03:23:15 PM  
FTFA:

"I am absolutely blown away by this decision, and I will can not stand for it," he said.

/I've got a movie for you: 'A Fridge Too Far.'
 
2012-06-21 03:26:02 PM  
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-06-21 03:27:11 PM  

oldfarthenry: Mishno: /was in Ontario last weekend and can tell you for sure that there were a lot of fatties there.

Yes - they're called "other 'merikun tourists".
By the way, did you have to eat ALL the donuts at Timmy's?


If not he, who? If not then, when?
 
2012-06-21 03:27:49 PM  
Should of read.... Violent, pot smoking dick's sons being put up for adoption....
So why the hell does the judge even mention his weight?

Love stories only told from the 'victims' view point....
 
2012-06-21 03:28:37 PM  

ChipNASA: [j.wigflip.com image 620x400]


Yeah - I'm stealing that.
 
2012-06-21 03:29:34 PM  
Sure, he'll go on a hunger strike to lose weight to get his kids back.

Oh, the marijuana? No, I never said I'd give that up.



Yeah, you can tell... he's really determined.
 
2012-06-21 03:29:52 PM  
FTA "He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs."

And

He said the ruling also prohibits him from contacting any Children's Aid Society workers for the next two years.

Yeah, I'm sure it has everything to do with being fat and nothing to do with the fact he's a violent asshole. My guess is he's not allowed to contact the CAS workers because he's threatened them.
 
2012-06-21 03:30:41 PM  
But, real men have curves!
 
2012-06-21 03:33:33 PM  

Glenford: FTA "He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs."

And

He said the ruling also prohibits him from contacting any Children's Aid Society workers for the next two years.

Yeah, I'm sure it has everything to do with being fat and nothing to do with the fact he's a violent asshole. My guess is he's not allowed to contact the CAS workers because he's threatened them.


meh, put an "out of order" sign on the elevator and everyone is perfectly safe.
 
2012-06-21 03:52:34 PM  
The obese should never wear plaid.
 
2012-06-21 03:52:46 PM  
So, while you all make dumb jokes:

[He said] the judge brought up his weight during the ruling ... saying it would be a full-time job to lose weight, and another full-time job to care for the two active boys.

How the hell is it a "full-time job" to not do something (in this case, overeat)? Exercise? Even if you believed exercising would be a whole days-worth of activity, wouldn't being active with his sons be that nice Venn overlap?

I'm interested to know more on this to see if it has any truth or is just some fat guy saying "they hate me 'cos I'm fat!" and ignoring the whole "smoking marijuana habitually and having a violent past" thing.
 
2012-06-21 03:59:55 PM  
If he's got anger issues, I'd say keep on tokin' fatty, but then again maybe that's why he's fat and thus angry.

Vicious cycle, etc.
 
2012-06-21 04:01:13 PM  
He sure picked the wrong time to go on a hunger strike:
www.sparksstreetmall.com
On Sparks Street. One block away from Parliament Hill.
 
2012-06-21 04:01:50 PM  

Sticky Hands: Glenford: FTA "He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs."

And

He said the ruling also prohibits him from contacting any Children's Aid Society workers for the next two years.

Yeah, I'm sure it has everything to do with being fat and nothing to do with the fact he's a violent asshole. My guess is he's not allowed to contact the CAS workers because he's threatened them.

meh, put an "out of order" sign on the elevator and everyone is perfectly safe.

 
2012-06-21 04:06:29 PM  

Glenford: FTA "He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs."

And

He said the ruling also prohibits him from contacting any Children's Aid Society workers for the next two years.

Yeah, I'm sure it has everything to do with being fat and nothing to do with the fact he's a violent asshole. My guess is he's not allowed to contact the CAS workers because he's threatened them.


That and his whole attitude about his 'right' to see his kids probably didn't impress the judge. Even just a few of the other quoted gems from the article shows that he's a total manchild douche for whom nothing is ever his fault.

"I am absolutely blown away by this decision, and I will not stand for it,"

How are you blown away by the fact that the courts took your kids, when you admit to being violent and have threatened CAS workers?

"I was fighting for a single chance at custody," he said. "I have never been given a chance."

Hey, its not about you being given 'a chance' Its about your kids being able to grow up in a safe and stable environment, that you've demonstrated that you're not able to provide.
 
2012-06-21 04:12:20 PM  

Ronin_S: Glenford: FTA "He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs."

And

He said the ruling also prohibits him from contacting any Children's Aid Society workers for the next two years.

Yeah, I'm sure it has everything to do with being fat and nothing to do with the fact he's a violent asshole. My guess is he's not allowed to contact the CAS workers because he's threatened them.

That and his whole attitude about his 'right' to see his kids probably didn't impress the judge. Even just a few of the other quoted gems from the article shows that he's a total manchild douche for whom nothing is ever his fault.

"I am absolutely blown away by this decision, and I will not stand for it,"

How are you blown away by the fact that the courts took your kids, when you admit to being violent and have threatened CAS workers?

"I was fighting for a single chance at custody," he said. "I have never been given a chance."

Hey, its not about you being given 'a chance' Its about your kids being able to grow up in a safe and stable environment, that you've demonstrated that you're not able to provide.


From another article.

The judge noted that the father never abused the children and used to run two businesses - a marijuana grow-op and a lucrative computer business.

The ruling also noted that the 38-year-old father showed no signs of abuse toward the boys and that he's an avid gamer, playing World of Warcraft, the popular video-fantasy game, for up to 24 hours at a time.
 
2012-06-21 04:18:05 PM  

Glenford: FTA "He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs."

And

He said the ruling also prohibits him from contacting any Children's Aid Society workers for the next two years.

Yeah, I'm sure it has everything to do with being fat and nothing to do with the fact he's a violent asshole. My guess is he's not allowed to contact the CAS workers because he's threatened them.


That and he apparently started screaming at his own doctor and refusing to take any medical advice.
 
2012-06-21 04:21:00 PM  
he smokes weed? he yelled at cps agents? who gives a rip. murderers don't routinely lose parental custody by state ordered adoption.

a whole shiat load of tough talking liberal authoritarians around these parts.
which begs the question, where is weaver95?
 
2012-06-21 04:24:58 PM  
Maybe this has more to do with the decision than his obesity.

He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs.
 
2012-06-21 04:27:47 PM  

Stavr0: He sure picked the wrong time to go on a hunger strike:
[www.sparksstreetmall.com image 200x190]
On Sparks Street. One block away from Parliament Hill.


I'd forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder.
 
2012-06-21 04:31:52 PM  

silverjets: Maybe this has more to do with the decision than his obesity.

He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs.


Oh noes! He smokes that ebil wacky-tabacky! Take his kids away STAT!
 
2012-06-21 04:46:42 PM  

Glenford: Ronin_S: Glenford: FTA "He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs."

And

He said the ruling also prohibits him from contacting any Children's Aid Society workers for the next two years.

Yeah, I'm sure it has everything to do with being fat and nothing to do with the fact he's a violent asshole. My guess is he's not allowed to contact the CAS workers because he's threatened them.

That and his whole attitude about his 'right' to see his kids probably didn't impress the judge. Even just a few of the other quoted gems from the article shows that he's a total manchild douche for whom nothing is ever his fault.

"I am absolutely blown away by this decision, and I will not stand for it,"

How are you blown away by the fact that the courts took your kids, when you admit to being violent and have threatened CAS workers?

"I was fighting for a single chance at custody," he said. "I have never been given a chance."

Hey, its not about you being given 'a chance' Its about your kids being able to grow up in a safe and stable environment, that you've demonstrated that you're not able to provide.

From another article.

The judge noted that the father never abused the children and used to run two businesses - a marijuana grow-op and a lucrative computer business.

The ruling also noted that the 38-year-old father showed no signs of abuse toward the boys and that he's an avid gamer, playing World of Warcraft, the popular video-fantasy game, for up to 24 hours at a time.


Nothing wrong with WoW, but somehow I don't think he's going to be an attentive father if he's playing it for 24 hour stretches. Maybe if he'd hired a nanny, not harassed CAS, had a whole 'I'm a changed man from therapy' attitude in court and been smart enough to kiss the judge's ass, he would have had a chance. Regardless, he's only got himself to blame.
 
2012-06-21 04:47:15 PM  

dittybopper: You know, we aren't really hearing much, so it's hard to pass judgement here. Just let me say as a foster parent, I'm rather ambivalent about the state's ability to take children from their parents: I've seen cases where it was absolutely warranted, and I've seen at least one where it wasn't warranted (but luckily the system worked - Still took the mother a month to get her kid back).


The guy admitted that he was violent, just never towards his children.
The guy admitted that he's a habitual drug user.

The reality is that these kids have one parent who isn't a violent drug addict, and one who is... I'm a-ok with the judge keeping kids away from him. If he gets his shiat together, attends some anger-management counseling, and stops using drugs that would impair his ability to care for his special needs kids, then we should re-visit the issue... and no, a hunger strike is not an adequate substitute for creating a safe environment for the kids.
 
2012-06-21 04:50:12 PM  

umad: silverjets: Maybe this has more to do with the decision than his obesity.

He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs.

Oh noes! He smokes that ebil wacky-tabacky! Take his kids away STAT!


I'm as pro-pot as they come, but the guy is doing drugs that are not medically necessary and do impair his ability to maintain a safe environment for his kids... if his kids are on a respirator or have juvenile diabetes and need someone to actually be able to do math before meals, then being baked out of your gord isn't really an option... and yes, I'd say the same thing if he was an alcoholic. The violent tendencies just add to the already large mountain of sufficient cause to give sole custody to the wife. If the guy values smoking pot more than his kids, it's a pretty good damned idea not to leave him in charge of the kids... if he cares more about the kids, I'd welcome him to stop using.
 
2012-06-21 04:51:23 PM  

firefly212: The reality is that these kids have one parent who isn't a violent drug addict, and one who is...


You do know what adoption means right?
 
2012-06-21 04:52:25 PM  
He pulled the fat card. Nice.
 
2012-06-21 04:56:11 PM  

firefly212: umad: silverjets: Maybe this has more to do with the decision than his obesity.

He admits to smoking marijuana habitually and to sometimes becoming violent in the past, but never with his children, who have special needs.

Oh noes! He smokes that ebil wacky-tabacky! Take his kids away STAT!

I'm as pro-pot as they come


That's funny. You sound just like the people who think it is just as bad as meth.

but the guy is doing drugs that are not medically necessary and do impair his ability to maintain a safe environment for his kids... if his kids are on a respirator or have juvenile diabetes and need someone to actually be able to do math before meals, then being baked out of your gord isn't really an option... and yes, I'd say the same thing if he was an alcoholic.

Would you say the same thing if he smokes cigarettes or drinks coffee? Your hyperbole about weed is hilarious.

The violent tendencies just add to the already large mountain of sufficient cause to give sole custody to the wife. If the guy values smoking pot more than his kids, it's a pretty good damned idea not to leave him in charge of the kids... if he cares more about the kids, I'd welcome him to stop using.

See my last post. They aren't being given to the mother. They are being put up for adoption. I'm sure if the mother was around they would give them to her even if she had a heroin habit though. That is just the way the courts work.
 
2012-06-21 05:07:46 PM  
firefly212: dittybopper: You know, we aren't really hearing much, so it's hard to pass judgement here. Just let me say as a foster parent, I'm rather ambivalent about the state's ability to take children from their parents: I've seen cases where it was absolutely warranted, and I've seen at least one where it wasn't warranted (but luckily the system worked - Still took the mother a month to get her kid back).

The guy admitted that he was violent, just never towards his children.
The guy admitted that he's a habitual drug user.

The reality is that these kids have one parent who isn't a violent drug addict, and one who is... I'm a-ok with the judge keeping kids away from him. If he gets his shiat together, attends some anger-management counseling, and stops using drugs that would impair his ability to care for his special needs kids, then we should re-visit the issue... and no, a hunger strike is not an adequate substitute for creating a safe environment for the kids.


About that.....

"The man is fighting to see his two boys ages 5 and 6 after they were seized from his ex-wife's house last year. She was sent to hospital for treatment of a suspected overdose, he said." Link

/Methinks these kids might have a more successful future with stable foster/adoptive parents
//Hope they find some
 
2012-06-21 05:12:38 PM  
lulz, my bad (re:adoption)... I still stand by the removal of kids from his custody... special needs kids and drug addicted parents are a uniquely poor mix, I'm often not in favor of taking kids away, but between this guy's violent tendencies and the addictive personality that leads him to both drugs and WoW, leaving the kids with him is just a disaster waiting to happen.
 
2012-06-21 06:34:56 PM  

Loomy:
The reality is that these kids have one parent who isn't a violent drug addict, and one who is...


Addicted. To pot.

...

*shuffle*
 
2012-06-21 07:31:08 PM  
I was halfway through this thread when I realized the kids had stolen my stash. Gonna find my hammer and deal some justice. This time, no witnesses.

/I'll be back
//with a sammmich
 
2012-06-21 07:55:59 PM  

Loomy: The reality is that these kids have one parent who isn't a violent drug addict, and one who is... I'm a-ok with the judge keeping kids away from him. If he gets his shiat together, attends some anger-management counseling, and stops using drugs that would impair his ability to care for his special needs kids, then we should re-visit the issue... and no, a hunger strike is not an adequate substitute for creating a safe environment for the kids.


listen up dipshiat.
the kids are to be adopted by strangers per orders from the judge.
how are the implications of this so hard for you to grasp, you raging f*cking moron?

and the reality is you don't know if he is a violent drug addict. in all likelihood there has not been a proper adversarial proceeding where those allegations have proven to be facts as they should before such a momentous decision is made to terminate forever a mans parental rights. some f*ck who works at cps told the judge he yelled at them.
 
2012-06-21 08:14:28 PM  
I got some sad news for you if you are reading this. Nobody cares if you go on a diet, die in a fire, or become as big as a house. You lost your kids due to your drug use and other issues, it's your fault, so man up. Playing the "omg...im not getting my way SO WATCH ME DIE" card is not only juvenile and petty, its repulsive and just sad. What are you? Eleven years old? Have you tried flopping around on the ground and screaming until you get your way? Man up and stop being such a little biatch, clean your act up and get your kids back the right way.
 
2012-06-21 08:17:29 PM  

relcec: listen up dipshiat.



Dude, chill. Quote machine ate my [close italics] tag. You're upset with...firefly212.

Try reading the thread more close next time, that way you'll get enraged the first time you come across something, not the second. I was just pointing out that the kids' other parent has drug issues necessitating treatment, not just "being a pothead".

/Seriously, the OP was 5 above my (admittedly faultily-formated) reply
 
2012-06-21 08:26:59 PM  
"I am absolutely blown away by this decision, and I will not stand for it," he said.

At that size, he probably can't.
 
2012-06-21 08:44:26 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: I got some sad news for you if you are reading this. Nobody cares if you go on a diet, die in a fire, or become as big as a house. You lost your kids due to your drug use and other issues, it's your fault, so man up. Playing the "omg...im not getting my way SO WATCH ME DIE" card is not only juvenile and petty, its repulsive and just sad. What are you? Eleven years old? Have you tried flopping around on the ground and screaming until you get your way? Man up and stop being such a little biatch, clean your act up and get your kids back the right way.


You missed the whole 'adopted' part huh? The guy isn't getting his kids back ever unless he can tie this up through appeals and get a favourable ruling.
 
2012-06-21 09:10:08 PM  

Loomy: firefly212: dittybopper: You know, we aren't really hearing much, so it's hard to pass judgement here. Just let me say as a foster parent, I'm rather ambivalent about the state's ability to take children from their parents: I've seen cases where it was absolutely warranted, and I've seen at least one where it wasn't warranted (but luckily the system worked - Still took the mother a month to get her kid back).

The guy admitted that he was violent, just never towards his children.
The guy admitted that he's a habitual drug user.

The reality is that these kids have one parent who isn't a violent drug addict, and one who is... I'm a-ok with the judge keeping kids away from him. If he gets his shiat together, attends some anger-management counseling, and stops using drugs that would impair his ability to care for his special needs kids, then we should re-visit the issue... and no, a hunger strike is not an adequate substitute for creating a safe environment for the kids.


About that.....

"The man is fighting to see his two boys ages 5 and 6 after they were seized from his ex-wife's house last year. She was sent to hospital for treatment of a suspected overdose, he said." Link

/Methinks these kids might have a more successful future with stable foster/adoptive parents
//Hope they find some


Hm, two parents who are habitual drug users have special needs kids?

Yeah, my eyebrows just headed north.

/yes, it could be something completely unrelated, but it does make you wonder.
 
2012-06-21 09:20:35 PM  

Stavr0: He sure picked the wrong time to go on a hunger strike:
[www.sparksstreetmall.com image 200x190]
On Sparks Street. One block away from Parliament Hill.


I had ribs there today (from Bibb)... oh the deliciousness! It was glorious. Horrible timing for a hunger strike indeed, you can smell the barbecue miles away.
 
2012-06-21 10:49:11 PM  
He is said to hate women? Prolly because the yell GET THE HELL OFF ME!!
 
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