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(Fox News)   Romney will be avoiding talk about immigration when he talks to Latino leaders today, instead focusing on that thing over there, look at it   (latino.foxnews.com) divider line 131
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2012-06-21 12:41:30 PM  
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THE LATINO COMMUNITY FROWNS ON YOUR SHENANIGANS
 
2012-06-21 01:16:03 PM  
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Protip for Mittens: "Don't mention tacos. At all."
 
2012-06-21 01:17:48 PM  
¡Mira! Una cosa brillante!
 
2012-06-21 01:30:35 PM  
The roller coasters are just the right height around here
 
2012-06-21 01:35:46 PM  
"I don't know too many Hispaniards, but I'm good friends with the guy who owns Charo."
 
2012-06-21 01:51:50 PM  
He will only be taking hair questions.
 
2012-06-21 01:52:08 PM  
When Mitt gets nervous, he starts cracking jokes. And think about it...what happens when Mitt starts cracking jokes? Hilarity ensures, but not the kind he hoped for.

I hope he's really, really nervous.
 
2012-06-21 01:52:46 PM  
He doesn't want to talk about it because it will infuriate his racist batshiat base.
 
2012-06-21 01:55:32 PM  
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs is the new 9/11! 9/11! 9/11! Look where that got us. Sadly the voting masses are idiots.
 
2012-06-21 01:57:01 PM  
It's not like that's a subject they'd be interested in anyway. I'm sure they'd rather discuss the imoproving economy and tree heights.
 
2012-06-21 01:57:31 PM  

Kibbler: When Mitt gets nervous, he starts cracking jokes. And think about it...what happens when Mitt starts cracking jokes? Hilarity ensures, but not the kind he hoped for.

I hope he's really, really nervous.


l1.yimg.com
"Heyyyyyyy Macarena! .... amirite, folks?!"
 
2012-06-21 01:58:07 PM  
"The trees are just the right height. Man, Pedro really does a great job gardening, doesn't he?!"
 
2012-06-21 01:59:14 PM  
i512.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-21 01:59:44 PM  
So what's his position again? Oh yeah he didn't say what it is.

That's leadership!!
 
2012-06-21 02:00:28 PM  

skygod: He doesn't want to talk about it because it will infuriate his racist batshiat base.


while Romney is in his box of silence he can be simultaneously for and against immigration reform/building an electrified wall on the border...and everyone is happy

as this election moves forward he'll have to talk more and more and that's gonna hurt him.
 
2012-06-21 02:01:28 PM  
FTA: "The former Massachusetts governor argues that his economic credentials would benefit all people who have struggled under Obama's leadership in recent years - women, younger voters and Hispanics among them."

Isn't that what the GOP used to call "playing identity politics"? "Fracturing the American people into smaller and smaller groups, then pitting them against each other"?

Anyone care to explain?

// oh, because Latinos are suddenly a huge voting bloc
// but not during the primaries
// or after elections
 
2012-06-21 02:01:38 PM  
I heard on i think Joe Rogan's podcast Romney doesn't rrrrrrrrrrreally want to get into illegal immigration because there's some question about whether his grandfather legally migrated to Mexico back in the day. granted it was freaking, you know, 100 years ago, but on principle.

and on the same podcast the guy was floating some theory about how the branch / sect of Mormons that remained in Mexico -- this is where i'm hazy on the details as it has been about a month -- might have some role in the drug flow from SA through mexico.
 
2012-06-21 02:02:00 PM  
In other news:
Mitt Romney will be avoiding talking about Civil Rights when he talks to African-American leaders
Mitt Romney will be avoiding talking about Israel when he talks to Jewish-American leaders.
Mitt Romney will be avoiding talking about health issues when he meets with Women's Voter leaders.
Mitt Romney will be avoiding talking about President Obama being a foreign born Muslim with Tea Party leaders.

/if I don't say ANYthing definitive, EVERYone will like me!
//that's how it works, right?
 
2012-06-21 02:02:18 PM  

DeltaPunch: "Heyyyyyyy Macarena! .... amirite, folks?!"


Mitt Romney - Who Let the Dogs Out?
 
2012-06-21 02:02:20 PM  
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"I get performance fees from time to time, but not very much."
 
2012-06-21 02:02:33 PM  
Can I get a self-deportation?
 
2012-06-21 02:04:13 PM  

Kibbler: When Mitt gets nervous, he starts cracking jokes. And think about it...what happens when Mitt starts cracking jokes? Hilarity ensures, but not the kind he hoped for.

I hope he's really, really nervous.


Quien dejo salir a los perros?

ja ja jajaja
 
2012-06-21 02:05:54 PM  

Headso: DeltaPunch: "Heyyyyyyy Macarena! .... amirite, folks?!"

Mitt Romney - Who Let the Dogs Out?


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;)
 
2012-06-21 02:06:38 PM  
I guess no one got the news but its time to shift focus of political pandering to Asian-Americans.

/not that I am complaining
 
2012-06-21 02:08:08 PM  

Dr Dreidel: FTA: "The former Massachusetts governor argues that his economic credentials would benefit all people who have struggled under Obama's leadership in recent years - women, younger voters and Hispanics among them."

Isn't that what the GOP used to call "playing identity politics"? "Fracturing the American people into smaller and smaller groups, then pitting them against each other"?

Anyone care to explain?


I think Romney's general response to questions about his policies' impact on women / minorities / the poor is that, basically, what's good for America is good for American women / minorities / poor people etc, so technically he's not playing identity politics. Of course that's predicated on whether his policies will actually grow the economy, before we even get to issues about disparate impact and social policies.
 
2012-06-21 02:08:44 PM  

Somacandra: Protip for Mittens: "Don't mention tacos. At all."


Romney doesn't like ethnic food so he'll most likely avoid the subject.
 
2012-06-21 02:10:08 PM  
Sure, fine, focus on the economy. What's he going to say? "The economy is terrible and it's all Obama's fault and it will never improve unless you vote for me! Oh and also the economy is improving, so vote to re-elect Rick Scott!"

He's completely run out of topics that he can address without sounding like a total doofus.
 
2012-06-21 02:10:14 PM  
/neither do I
//Vote Republican
 
2012-06-21 02:10:27 PM  
A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.
 
2012-06-21 02:10:30 PM  
Basically, he said that he thinks people who have served in the military should have a path to legal status and that this provision should be enshrined in law. Isn't that what the DREAM Act would do? And didn't Mitt Romney previously say that he would veto the DREAM Act?
 
2012-06-21 02:10:33 PM  

Empty Matchbook: Mitt Romney will be avoiding talking about Israel when he talks to Jewish-American leaders.


Depending on where those Jewish leaders have convened, that might actually be a good plan.

At AIPAC? Bad idea.

At a heterogeneous, multi-traditional gathering with "traditional", Reform, Conservative and Orthodox folks, I don't even think *I'd* get into specific policy outlines. Even J Street might be a bad place to lay out a new plan.

// of course, I'd start any Israel policy speech by pissing off the group I was speaking to: "Here's where y'all motherfarkers have been wrong for the last 40 years..."
 
2012-06-21 02:10:34 PM  

DeltaPunch: [www.brokencountry.com image 520x343]
THE LATINO COMMUNITY FROWNS ON YOUR SHENANIGANS


Are you sure they're not asian? They might even be from Madagascar.
 
2012-06-21 02:11:03 PM  
img.photobucket.com

I have data showing many of my components are hecho en Mexico, which should invoke a positive emotional state in humans with your levels of melanin.
 
2012-06-21 02:12:52 PM  

randomjsa: A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.


It's more a problem for Romney than anyone else.
 
2012-06-21 02:13:33 PM  

randomjsa: But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.


It's always good for a chuckle when a republican whines about not being able to control the message.
 
2012-06-21 02:14:29 PM  
i.imgur.com

/neither do I
//Vote Republican
 
2012-06-21 02:15:41 PM  
All politicians should have to fill out a questionnaire on the issues and have it posted online. If you don't answer even 1 of them you don't get to run.
 
2012-06-21 02:19:23 PM  
This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.
 
2012-06-21 02:19:28 PM  

randomjsa: A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.


Is there anything that you aren't wrong about?
 
2012-06-21 02:19:41 PM  
Romney stated to Latinos today that "Obama is taking your votes for granted."

That's farking hilarious.

"Obama doesn't love you like I love you! He's just using you for your votes! Leave him and love me instead!"
 
2012-06-21 02:20:28 PM  

randomjsa: A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.


U.S. President Barack Hussein Obama stated his views in opposition to gay marriage many times during the campaign. Perhaps you had you head to far up your arse to hear him.
 
2012-06-21 02:21:09 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Empty Matchbook: Mitt Romney will be avoiding talking about Israel when he talks to Jewish-American leaders.

Depending on where those Jewish leaders have convened, that might actually be a good plan.

At AIPAC? Bad idea.

At a heterogeneous, multi-traditional gathering with "traditional", Reform, Conservative and Orthodox folks, I don't even think *I'd* get into specific policy outlines. Even J Street might be a bad place to lay out a new plan.

// of course, I'd start any Israel policy speech by pissing off the group I was speaking to: "Here's where y'all motherfarkers have been wrong for the last 40 years..."


I agree, it's a multi-faceted issue, but that level of detail kinda kills my joke ;)

/and personally I think you should still talk ABOUT it, regardless
//but demanding openness from a politician is like demanding the wind blow the other direction
 
2012-06-21 02:21:34 PM  

birchman: This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.


Do you know if this glaring, shining emptiness is being portrayed in the rest of the media? It seems so obvious if you pay attention, but I don't know how much coverage it's getting generally.
 
2012-06-21 02:22:26 PM  
Que parece ser sol ...

fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net
 
2012-06-21 02:23:37 PM  

rickythepenguin: and on the same podcast the guy was floating some theory about how the branch / sect of Mormons that remained in Mexico -- this is where i'm hazy on the details as it has been about a month -- might have some role in the drug flow from SA through mexico.



The Romney Family, along with several other of the big Mormon Families like hte LaBarons, built polygamy communes in Chihuahua Mexico after it was outlawed in the US (it's okay when white people don't respect borders). Romney's grandfather had five wives. Romney's father was born in Mexico, but obtained naturalized citizenship from being born to two US citizens. Many of those polygamists fled Mexico during the Mexican Revolution, including Romney's dad and grandparents. Some permanently fled, some later returned when things died down. Those polygamist sects still exist in Mexico today, in the same areas that are hot spots for Drug Cartels. The polygamist sects have been stock piling weapons and warring against the drug cartels for some time.
 
2012-06-21 02:23:52 PM  

LasersHurt: birchman: This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.

Do you know if this glaring, shining emptiness is being portrayed in the rest of the media? It seems so obvious if you pay attention, but I don't know how much coverage it's getting generally.


Not really yet, but all of this stuff is going to make for great TV ads and debate topics as we get closer to November.
 
2012-06-21 02:23:53 PM  

Eshman: [media.tumblr.com image 424x301]

Oblig.


Wow. That is hilarious, and I've never seen it prior to this thread. I'd keep looking at it for the lulz but it makes my eyes hurt.

That little guy is just so happy!

Y ahora estoy tambien!
 
2012-06-21 02:24:05 PM  

LasersHurt: birchman: This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.

Do you know if this glaring, shining emptiness is being portrayed in the rest of the media? It seems so obvious if you pay attention, but I don't know how much coverage it's getting generally.


There are a few people making the connection that Romney is trying to be as bland and generic as possible so as to frame the election as a referendum on Obama, but largely they're ignoring it. There was an article posted on Fark recently about how Romney resembles Dewey in his election against Truman in that regard.
 
2012-06-21 02:25:36 PM  

Serious Black: LasersHurt: birchman: This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.

Do you know if this glaring, shining emptiness is being portrayed in the rest of the media? It seems so obvious if you pay attention, but I don't know how much coverage it's getting generally.

There are a few people making the connection that Romney is trying to be as bland and generic as possible so as to frame the election as a referendum on Obama, but largely they're ignoring it. There was an article posted on Fark recently about how Romney resembles Dewey in his election against Truman in that regard.


Wait! Based on the Google Image Search research I did on the matter, Dewey DEFEATED Truman? OH NO
 
2012-06-21 02:26:24 PM  

randomjsa: A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.


For the love of god, just stop it already.
 
2012-06-21 02:27:34 PM  

All_Farked_Up: All politicians should have to fill out a questionnaire on the issues and have it posted online. If you don't answer even 1 of them you don't get to run.


Sweeet Jesus, would that make a voter's life easier.
 
2012-06-21 02:28:28 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.

It's more a problem for Romney than anyone else.


As I recall, Obama said that he was not in favor of allowing gay marriage. It's only recently that he's come around to the correct side of that issue.
 
2012-06-21 02:29:56 PM  

randomjsa: A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.


Wow, you couldn't be more wrong. On several occasions during the campaign, Obama stated that his personal belief was that marriage was between a man and a woman, but he still supported gay marriage and gave his support to the No on Prop 8 campaign.

Not only that, but a very specific minority issue that directly affects a couple million people isn't the same as a broad series of issues that directly affects upwards of 50 million people.

Everything you said was wrong.
 
2012-06-21 02:30:11 PM  

LasersHurt: Serious Black: LasersHurt: birchman: This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.

Do you know if this glaring, shining emptiness is being portrayed in the rest of the media? It seems so obvious if you pay attention, but I don't know how much coverage it's getting generally.

There are a few people making the connection that Romney is trying to be as bland and generic as possible so as to frame the election as a referendum on Obama, but largely they're ignoring it. There was an article posted on Fark recently about how Romney resembles Dewey in his election against Truman in that regard.

Wait! Based on the Google Image Search research I did on the matter, Dewey DEFEATED Truman? OH NO


Yeah, it was a pretty dark time in our nation's history...I still shudder thinking about it.
 
2012-06-21 02:30:13 PM  

InmanRoshi: Those polygamist sects still exist in Mexico today, in the same areas that are hot spots for Drug Cartels. The polygamist sects have been stock piling weapons and warring against the drug cartels for some time.


A Breaking Bad/Big Love crossover episode?
 
2012-06-21 02:32:37 PM  
Maybe he can explain that his grandfather emigrated to Mexico to escape Obama's religious persecution?
 
2012-06-21 02:33:08 PM  

All_Farked_Up: All politicians should have to fill out a questionnaire on the issues and have it posted online. If you don't answer even 1 of them you don't get to run.


That would require a constitutional amendment.

No, I'm serious, it would. It is unconstitutional to pass a law with any restrictions on who can run for Federal office and what they have to do other than what is already in the constitution (age restrictions for all Federal elected offices, must be natural born citizen for President, etc.).
 
2012-06-21 02:33:21 PM  

Corvus: So what's his position again? Oh yeah he didn't say what it is.

That's leadership!!


Didn't he recently make a comment that he'll tell you his policies once he's elected?
 
2012-06-21 02:36:21 PM  

Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]


Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?
 
2012-06-21 02:36:59 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: [img.photobucket.com image 240x290]

I have data showing many of my components are hecho en Mexico, which should invoke a positive emotional state in humans with your levels of melanin.


Bio-units, terminate noise exchange.
 
2012-06-21 02:37:26 PM  

LasersHurt: birchman: This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.

Do you know if this glaring, shining emptiness is being portrayed in the rest of the media? It seems so obvious if you pay attention, but I don't know how much coverage it's getting generally.


That doesn't sell papers.
 
2012-06-21 02:37:52 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]

Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?


Here you go.
 
2012-06-21 02:38:19 PM  

InmanRoshi: The polygamist sects have been stock piling weapons and warring against the drug cartels for some time.



my bad....i had the story as the mexican "outposts" being somewhat complicit in the drug trade. my bad, mormon sect, i apologize.

half the fun of the rogan podcast is all the half-baked conspiracy theories. i apologize for getting this one 180 degrees wrong.
 
2012-06-21 02:38:24 PM  
Romney's plan, and conservatives in general, absolutely crack me up. They don't want the immigrant's children to "live off the taxpayer dime" by educating them in our school system so that they can become highly skilled labor making good salaries. and paying it back into the system a thousand fold in taxable income over their earning lives. BUT they will grant amnesty if they join the world's biggest and most bloated government jobs program, aka the US Military, and suckle off the taxpayer teat for the rest of their lives. Cuz ... God Bless Murica, and stuff.
 
2012-06-21 02:39:16 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]

Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?


Just going to ask the same thing.

Cheezis H Keericed.
 
2012-06-21 02:40:24 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-21 02:40:33 PM  
Mitt: Let's see... I need the racist vote, but I also need the Latino vote. Hmm...
 
2012-06-21 02:40:56 PM  

rickythepenguin: InmanRoshi: The polygamist sects have been stock piling weapons and warring against the drug cartels for some time.


my bad....i had the story as the mexican "outposts" being somewhat complicit in the drug trade. my bad, mormon sect, i apologize.

half the fun of the rogan podcast is all the half-baked conspiracy theories. i apologize for getting this one 180 degrees wrong.


Maybe there's more to it than is widely known, journalists aren't exactly chomping at the bit to do investigative reporting over there, but as far as I know the main beef is that the drug cartels have been kidnapping Mormon Polygamist Sect members for ransom money, and the Mormons have been bringing in weapons to arm themselves in defense.
 
2012-06-21 02:42:06 PM  
FTFA: But party executive director Bowen Greenwood says the decision to drop the language came as part of a larger effort to simply shorten a 31-page platform.

I'm not sure which is worse: this being the only reason they dropped it, or Republicans saying this is the only reason they dropped it to appease their base.
 
2012-06-21 02:42:14 PM  

InmanRoshi: The Romney Family, along with several other of the big Mormon Families like hte LaBarons, built polygamy communes in Chihuahua Mexico after it was outlawed in the US (it's okay when white people don't respect borders). Romney's grandfather had five wives. Romney's father was born in Mexico, but obtained naturalized citizenship from being born to two US citizens. Many of those polygamists fled Mexico during the Mexican Revolution, including Romney's dad and grandparents. Some permanently fled, some later returned when things died down. Those polygamist sects still exist in Mexico today, in the same areas that are hot spots for Drug Cartels. The polygamist sects have been stock piling weapons and warring against the drug cartels for some time.


If I lived near the cartels, I'd probably try to leave. But if I couldn't or didn't want to, I'd be stockpiling weapons. Can't really fault them there.
 
2012-06-21 02:43:14 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Empty Matchbook: Mitt Romney will be avoiding talking about Israel when he talks to Jewish-American leaders.

Depending on where those Jewish leaders have convened, that might actually be a good plan.

At AIPAC? Bad idea.

At a heterogeneous, multi-traditional gathering with "traditional", Reform, Conservative and Orthodox folks, I don't even think *I'd* get into specific policy outlines. Even J Street might be a bad place to lay out a new plan.

// of course, I'd start any Israel policy speech by pissing off the group I was speaking to: "Here's where y'all motherfarkers have been wrong for the last 40 years..."

dalje.com
GET OFF MY LAWN
 
2012-06-21 02:43:14 PM  
That's Ok, Romney will deport them but Marco Rubio will smuggle them back in.
 
2012-06-21 02:43:44 PM  
I have a plan, but it's in my car. I'll just step out to the parking lot and get it for you gentlemen. I'll be right back.. so don't move.
 
2012-06-21 02:44:05 PM  

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 585x200]


getting a bit low on crappy trolls around here, thanks for pitching in.
 
2012-06-21 02:48:10 PM  

InmanRoshi: The polygamist sects have been stock piling weapons and warring against the drug cartels for some time.


Why would the polygamist sects war against the cartels? That generally only happens when you have a business conflict.
 
2012-06-21 02:49:04 PM  

Glenford: Corvus: So what's his position again? Oh yeah he didn't say what it is.

That's leadership!!

Didn't he recently make a comment that he'll tell you his policies once he's elected?


Wasn't that also John McCain's position on how he definitely had a plan to go after Osama Bin Laden?

You know: the same John McCain that berated Obama for saying "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf will not act, we will.", choosing instead to appease Pakistan with statements like "If you are a country and you're trying to gain the support of another country, then you want to do everything you can that they would act in a cooperative fashion... When you announce that you're going to launch an attack into another country, it's pretty obvious that you have the effect that it had in Pakistan: It turns public opinion against us."?

You know: the same Osama Bin Laden that was killed in Pakistan exactly in the way Barack Obama said. A country that McCain said he'd not go into. Yet he knew how to get OBL.

MEMO TO REPUBLICANS: we've already called this bluff before. You lost big using this tactic. Please, continue to use this losing tactic. And I know you will, because we Liberals are telling you it's a bad tactic. So you think it's a great tactic. Because you're f***ing morons.

I've seen bluffs, and you don't continue to bluff once it's shown that you'll do it willy-nilly because you rarely (if ever) hold a winning hand. ESPECIALLY when you're holding nothing. It stinks of gross incompetence and desperation. And if this were a poker game, I would take you to the f***ing cleaners for this tactic. And I would taunt you like I'm doing it now. Because you're too proud and stupid to learn from your mistakes.
 
2012-06-21 02:49:50 PM  

unexplained bacon: One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 585x200]

getting a bit low on crappy trolls around here, thanks for pitching in.


ct.fra.bz

It's only just begun
 
2012-06-21 02:50:11 PM  

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 585x200]


I made an ass-mistake once. Once.
 
2012-06-21 02:51:40 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]

Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?


Link? How about a video.
 
2012-06-21 02:51:54 PM  

TrollingForColumbine: Dr Dreidel: of course, I'd start any Israel policy speech by pissing off the group I was speaking to: "Here's where y'all motherfarkers have been wrong for the last 40 years..."

[dalje.com image 640x840]
GET OFF MY LAWN


Aren't those sort of the problems in the first place: whose lawn is it, how big is the lawn, and who has the authority to tell whom to get off it?

// and yes, I'd tell Arab/Muslim/Palestinian groups how wrong they'd been as well
 
2012-06-21 02:53:16 PM  

Serious Black: Nadie_AZ: Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]

Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?

Here you go.


He said that. He ... he said that. He ... he's obvious that he wants war with Iran. His neocon advisers have him blaming everything on Iran.

He .. he really said that.

Regime change. I've heard those words before....
 
2012-06-21 02:53:39 PM  
The assumption that American Latinos care about immigration is RACIST, and therefore you are a RACIST submittard. Maybe they're more interested in jobs and putting food on the table.
 
2012-06-21 02:55:23 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-21 02:58:53 PM  

Agneska: The assumption that American Latinos care about immigration is RACIST, and therefore you are a RACIST submittard. Maybe they're more interested in jobs and putting food on the table.


If only Romney was actually interested in that too.
 
2012-06-21 03:01:17 PM  

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 500x375]


One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

holy crap, that's clever.
this guy's trolling for realz
 
2012-06-21 03:03:02 PM  

oldfarthenry: InmanRoshi: Those polygamist sects still exist in Mexico today, in the same areas that are hot spots for Drug Cartels. The polygamist sects have been stock piling weapons and warring against the drug cartels for some time.

A Breaking Bad/Big Love crossover episode?


Don't watch much TV but I loved both those series.
 
2012-06-21 03:03:51 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Serious Black: Nadie_AZ: Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]

Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?

Here you go.

He said that. He ... he said that. He ... he's obvious that he wants war with Iran. His neocon advisers have him blaming everything on Iran.

He .. he really said that.

Regime change. I've heard those words before....


Romney plans to arm a disorganized and unknown Islamic insurgency.

That couldn't possibly backfire. It's not as though there's historical

www.legitgov.org
 
2012-06-21 03:04:27 PM  

unexplained bacon: holy crap, that's clever.
this guy's trolling for realz



it has also been a bumper sticker for several years.

also, sometimes, instead of "mistake", the "M" is a particularly offensive slur against black persons. hint: howard cosell
 
2012-06-21 03:05:23 PM  

unexplained bacon: One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 500x375]

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

holy crap, that's clever.
this guy's trolling for realz


Not clever. I've seen it on at least half a dozen bumper stickers. A troll with no original thought at all? Sounds about right.
 
2012-06-21 03:14:42 PM  
I think President Obama can relate better with the Latino community than the GOP puppet Rmoney.

for instance, Latinos are big in the service industry & President Obama has been mopping up a mess ever since he was elected.
 
2012-06-21 03:14:50 PM  
"So we went to the company, and we said, 'Look, you can't have any illegals working on our property. I'm running for office, for Pete's sake! I can't have illegals!'"
 
2012-06-21 03:16:12 PM  
azizonomics.files.wordpress.com
I love your people's beans. I was just telling the Mrs. how you people remind me of George Washington Carver, only with using beans. We thank you for taco salad too.
 
2012-06-21 03:18:27 PM  

Serious Black: Basically, he said that he thinks people who have served in the military should have a path to legal status and that this provision should be enshrined in law. Isn't that what the DREAM Act would do? And didn't Mitt Romney previously say that he would veto the DREAM Act?


Didn't we used to have that anyway, DREAM act or no DREAM act?
 
2012-06-21 03:22:39 PM  

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 500x375]


You know the difference is between that guy and you guys? He's working right now.

/troll feeding
//it's what's for dinner!
 
2012-06-21 03:23:41 PM  
that was certainly meant to be a sarcastic 'clever'

his handle is a bumper sticker and so are his posts.
this guy's posts are like a virtual walk through a walmart parking lot.
 
2012-06-21 03:28:59 PM  

Jackpot777: Nadie_AZ: Serious Black: Nadie_AZ: Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]

Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?

Here you go.

He said that. He ... he said that. He ... he's obvious that he wants war with Iran. His neocon advisers have him blaming everything on Iran.

He .. he really said that.

Regime change. I've heard those words before....

Romney plans to arm a disorganized and unknown Islamic insurgency.

That couldn't possibly backfire. It's not as though there's historical

[www.legitgov.org image 485x237]


Did he use the same time machine that BO used to make changes to Hawaiian newspapers?
Do they keep that thing in the White House garage or something?
 
2012-06-21 03:38:12 PM  

skullkrusher: Jackpot777: Nadie_AZ: Serious Black: Nadie_AZ: Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]

Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?

Here you go.

He said that. He ... he said that. He ... he's obvious that he wants war with Iran. His neocon advisers have him blaming everything on Iran.

He .. he really said that.

Regime change. I've heard those words before....

Romney plans to arm a disorganized and unknown Islamic insurgency.

That couldn't possibly backfire. It's not as though there's historical

[www.legitgov.org image 485x237]

Did he use the same time machine that BO used to make changes to Hawaiian newspapers?
Do they keep that thing in the White House garage or something?


Actually, that's on blocks out in the USNO yard. Joe keeps saying he'll get around to fixing that busted cam shaft, but you know how he is after a few beers.
 
2012-06-21 03:39:43 PM  
If the Romney campaign doesn't hurry up and start defining themselves, Obama's going to define their positions for them. In fact, he's already doing it
 
2012-06-21 03:44:10 PM  

Geotpf: All_Farked_Up: All politicians should have to fill out a questionnaire on the issues and have it posted online. If you don't answer even 1 of them you don't get to run.

That would require a constitutional amendment.

No, I'm serious, it would. It is unconstitutional to pass a law with any restrictions on who can run for Federal office and what they have to do other than what is already in the constitution (age restrictions for all Federal elected offices, must be natural born citizen for President, etc.).


Tell it to Roemer. The press picks the "serious candidates" and gives them air time. Nobody else matters. Nothing prohibited him from running, but not being considered seriously by the establishment mitigated any chance he had of attending debates, having airtime, being interviewed about the issues. Any chance of people seeing his face, hearing his voice, knowing his thoughts or his beliefs.

No law needs to be passed. No law says that you have to have over 10 million dollars to run for president. But you go ahead and try it and lemme know how it works out for you.

:p
 
2012-06-21 03:45:58 PM  

Butterflew: unexplained bacon: One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 500x375]

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

holy crap, that's clever.
this guy's trolling for realz

Not clever. I've seen it on at least half a dozen bumper stickers. A troll with no original thought at all? Sounds about right.


Got two out in the parking lot right now.
 
2012-06-21 03:48:12 PM  

Dr Dreidel: TrollingForColumbine: Dr Dreidel: of course, I'd start any Israel policy speech by pissing off the group I was speaking to: "Here's where y'all motherfarkers have been wrong for the last 40 years..."

[dalje.com image 640x840]
GET OFF MY LAWN

Aren't those sort of the problems in the first place: whose lawn is it, how big is the lawn, and who has the authority to tell whom to get off it?

// and yes, I'd tell Arab/Muslim/Palestinian groups how wrong they'd been as well


As a goy with ties to Israel I under stand the conundrum. My solution. Get out of the occupied territory (excluding golan height) build a big wall. If they shoot rockets shoot back. Try to give gaza to egypt (they don't want it). try to give west bank to jordan(they don't want it) tell syria to go fark themselves.

/wife is israeli (Bat-Yam)
//protested for Palestine while in college
///do not play tatsuma card
 
2012-06-21 03:49:20 PM  

palelizard: skullkrusher: Jackpot777: Nadie_AZ: Serious Black: Nadie_AZ: Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]

Wait. He said this? Really? Gotta link?

Here you go.

He said that. He ... he said that. He ... he's obvious that he wants war with Iran. His neocon advisers have him blaming everything on Iran.

He .. he really said that.

Regime change. I've heard those words before....

Romney plans to arm a disorganized and unknown Islamic insurgency.

That couldn't possibly backfire. It's not as though there's historical

[www.legitgov.org image 485x237]

Did he use the same time machine that BO used to make changes to Hawaiian newspapers?
Do they keep that thing in the White House garage or something?

Actually, that's on blocks out in the USNO yard. Joe keeps saying he'll get around to fixing that busted cam shaft, but you know how he is after a few beers.


Joe is pissed that BO won't let him put a Firebird decal on it
 
2012-06-21 03:51:48 PM  

Jackpot777: Que parece ser sol ...

[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 400x224]


I thought that sunshine WAS, in fact, the best disinfectant?
 
2012-06-21 03:54:24 PM  

BeesNuts: Butterflew: unexplained bacon: One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 500x375]

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

holy crap, that's clever.
this guy's trolling for realz

Not clever. I've seen it on at least half a dozen bumper stickers. A troll with no original thought at all? Sounds about right.

Got two out in the parking lot right now.


What a terrible parking lot to be near.
 
2012-06-21 03:58:09 PM  

skullkrusher: Joe is pissed that BO won't let him put a Firebird decal on it


Last I heard, that conversation went:

Joe: "But Boss, it will go faster and look cool!"

The Boss: "Joe, first off, it's a time machine, it literally cannot go faster. I mean, it gets there yesterday, if you want to be there yesterday. Fastest transport ever. Second, no, it will not look cool. I know cool. While we're at it, you know your secret service code name is because of your ugly ass jacket? Also not cool."

Joe: "Denim is strong and tough and stands for freedom! You want cool?" *lights a Kool, puffs once, stubs it out on the carpet* "That's what I think about your cool! And I can wear my hair however I want!"

The Boss: *Sigh* "Look, we'll talk about it later, I've got to go talk to my scheduler, he has something down about defeating an evil robot from now through November."
 
2012-06-21 04:00:39 PM  

TrollingForColumbine: Dr Dreidel: TrollingForColumbine: Dr Dreidel: of course, I'd start any Israel policy speech by pissing off the group I was speaking to: "Here's where y'all motherfarkers have been wrong for the last 40 years..."

[dalje.com image 640x840]
GET OFF MY LAWN

Aren't those sort of the problems in the first place: whose lawn is it, how big is the lawn, and who has the authority to tell whom to get off it?

// and yes, I'd tell Arab/Muslim/Palestinian groups how wrong they'd been as well

As a goy with ties to Israel I under stand the conundrum. My solution. Get out of the occupied territory (excluding golan height) build a big wall. If they shoot rockets shoot back. Try to give gaza to egypt (they don't want it). try to give west bank to jordan(they don't want it) tell syria to go fark themselves.

/wife is israeli (Bat-Yam)
//protested for Palestine while in college
///do not play tatsuma card


And see, I just wonder what the problem is. Black people in the US weren't pushing for their own country in the South, they just wanted acceptance into the larger community. The Palestinian population should be offered the same (or a similar deal):
-if you want to live in Israel, be good citizens. I know more than one Palestinian man who would be more than happy to live as an Israeli citizen. When he looked at how the PA governed (last time we spoke was 12 years ago, so Hamas/Fatah weren't running things. Same guys, though), he said he'd rather live semi-homeless in Israel than as a rich man in Palestine.
-if you don't want to live in Israel, here's a check for moving expenses and 2 months' rent. Oh, and be sure you ask Egypt/Jordan/Lebanon/Syria reeeeeeeeeeeeeal nice to let you in, I hear they can be dicks about it. Best of luck.

It's all predicated on no one stirring the shiat for the next 10-12 years after that goes into effect.

For me, I fail to see how having a Palestinian government forever pissed at Israel would be any better than having Palestinian citizenry forever pissed at an Israeli government. People and their families have had to move all the damned time, and once more, with a guaranteed citizenship and equal status (no more Israeli Yirmiyahu Crowinsky laws, please) no matter which side of the line you're on, seems like it might lay some of this misplaced nationalism/extreme xenophobia aside.

And The West Bank can stay Palestinian. Even though a 10-mile thickness (roughly, from the Med to Jerusalem at its narrowest point) makes the country horrifically easy to bisect in wartime, what's one more arbitrary border drawn in a region with nothing but for the last 130 years?

// and yes - rockets are met with rockets
// no country on Earth should have to stand for ballistic ordnance raining down on them indiscriminately (targeted at civilian areas BECAUSE they're civilian areas)
// targeted munitions are a different story
 
2012-06-21 04:02:43 PM  

LasersHurt: BeesNuts: Butterflew: unexplained bacon: One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 500x375]

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

holy crap, that's clever.
this guy's trolling for realz

Not clever. I've seen it on at least half a dozen bumper stickers. A troll with no original thought at all? Sounds about right.

Got two out in the parking lot right now.

What a terrible parking lot to be near.


Got an Ayn Rand one out there too. "Who is John Galt?"

I resist the daily urge to answer that question.
 
2012-06-21 04:04:35 PM  

sirgrim: DeltaPunch: [www.brokencountry.com image 520x343]
THE LATINO COMMUNITY FROWNS ON YOUR SHENANIGANS

Are you sure they're not asian? They might even be from Madagascar.


I was going to ask him why those asians were so mad.
 
2012-06-21 04:06:32 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: "I don't know too many Hispaniards, but I'm good friends with the guy who owns CharoHappy Wok."

 
2012-06-21 04:14:46 PM  

All_Farked_Up: All politicians should have to fill out a questionnaire on the issues and have it posted online. If you don't answer even 1 of them you don't get to run.


Who would pick the way questions are phrased?

On environmentalism, are you as a candidate:
A) For allowing faceless corporations to inject melanine, lead & nuclear waster directly into your home's water supply?
or
B) For the creation of job-killing regulations that will create 200% unemployment?
 
2012-06-21 04:15:18 PM  

Dr Dreidel: TrollingForColumbine: Dr Dreidel: TrollingForColumbine: Dr Dreidel: of course, I'd start any Israel policy speech by pissing off the group I was speaking to: "Here's where y'all motherfarkers have been wrong for the last 40 years..."

[dalje.com image 640x840]
GET OFF MY LAWN

Aren't those sort of the problems in the first place: whose lawn is it, how big is the lawn, and who has the authority to tell whom to get off it?

// and yes, I'd tell Arab/Muslim/Palestinian groups how wrong they'd been as well

As a goy with ties to Israel I under stand the conundrum. My solution. Get out of the occupied territory (excluding golan height) build a big wall. If they shoot rockets shoot back. Try to give gaza to egypt (they don't want it). try to give west bank to jordan(they don't want it) tell syria to go fark themselves.

/wife is israeli (Bat-Yam)
//protested for Palestine while in college
///do not play tatsuma card

And see, I just wonder what the problem is. Black people in the US weren't pushing for their own country in the South, they just wanted acceptance into the larger community. The Palestinian population should be offered the same (or a similar deal):
-if you want to live in Israel, be good citizens. I know more than one Palestinian man who would be more than happy to live as an Israeli citizen. When he looked at how the PA governed (last time we spoke was 12 years ago, so Hamas/Fatah weren't running things. Same guys, though), he said he'd rather live semi-homeless in Israel than as a rich man in Palestine.
-if you don't want to live in Israel, here's a check for moving expenses and 2 months' rent. Oh, and be sure you ask Egypt/Jordan/Lebanon/Syria reeeeeeeeeeeeeal nice to let you in, I hear they can be dicks about it. Best of luck.

It's all predicated on no one stirring the shiat for the next 10-12 years after that goes into effect.

For me, I fail to see how having a Palestinian government forever pissed at Israel would be any better than having Palestinian ...


this is why we don't do well in Israel threads. Tats to the right of Gat to the left.
 
2012-06-21 04:16:35 PM  

TrollingForColumbine: Tats to the right of us Gat to the left.


ftfm
G*D DAMN IT SO MUCH
 
2012-06-21 04:39:20 PM  
All_Farked_Up: All politicians should have to fill out a questionnaire on the issues and have it posted online. If you don't answer even 1 of them you don't get to run.

Sweeet Jesus, would that make a voter's life easier.


Good idea except for the fact that voters change their minds even more than candidates. Im not sure why people are such hypocrites about being able to change their minds, sometimes month to month, but expect their representatives to hold onto their viewpoint forever.

Lets face it-people dont want to hear the truth and are mostly full of shiat. Throw into this mix a complicated, no-win topic like immigration and you dont need a high IQ to see why politicians dont want to lean too far one way or the other.

Im still wondering why the media believes Hispanics will be the deciding group in the Nov election. There are 21 mill voting eligible people of Hispanic descent, 12 mill are Mexican-American, and not all are engrossed in immigration reform (PuertoRicans have no dog in that fight). No national election has ever yielded more than 50% voter turnout-and that was in 08 at the height of "Hope and Change". Most Hispanic turnout is in the 35-40% range. Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada will be swing states but in each state there are less than 1 million eligible Hispanic voters-Nevada has less then 500 thou.
Only Florida, with its diversity among the Hispanic vote (more educated, more Cuban), can actually make a dent in Nov. And there the issues are more about employment.
 
2012-06-21 04:43:15 PM  

Dr Dreidel: The Palestinian population should be offered the same (or a similar deal):



There are about 5 million Palestinians in Israel, including the territories.
There are about 6 million Jews in Israel, including the territories.

The former population has a high birthrate.
The latter population does not.

As a result, Israel believes that they cannot "nationalize" all of the Palestinians without risking the national identity within a few decades.
 
2012-06-21 04:45:11 PM  
Can I get some catsup and mayonnaise for these tacos? Can somebody cut the crusts off my tacos please?
 
2012-06-21 05:00:43 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Dr Dreidel: The Palestinian population should be offered the same (or a similar deal):


There are about 5 million Palestinians in Israel, including the territories.
There are about 6 million Jews in Israel, including the territories.

The former population has a high birthrate.
The latter population does not.

As a result, Israel believes that they cannot "nationalize" all of the Palestinians without risking the national identity within a few decades.


And my counter is that the national identity will have to change (assuming all 5m Palestinians decide to stay - or, more likely, the countries they'd like to go don't want to lose their national identity either). Don't worry - Israelis will still be pushy merchant-types who have no concept of personal space (in both the real world and emotionally) even after there are equal numbers of Israeli Jews and Israeli Palestinians.

These are not difficult solutions, but they're hard decisions. They (both sides) are going to have to "lose" a stupid feel-good fight to win the problem of having so many people hurt/killed every year. The insanity is that they see the status quo as somehow better.
 
2012-06-21 05:01:40 PM  

randomjsa: A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.


And then....
 
2012-06-21 05:06:28 PM  

InmanRoshi: rickythepenguin: and on the same podcast the guy was floating some theory about how the branch / sect of Mormons that remained in Mexico -- this is where i'm hazy on the details as it has been about a month -- might have some role in the drug flow from SA through mexico.


The Romney Family, along with several other of the big Mormon Families like hte LaBarons, built polygamy communes in Chihuahua Mexico after it was outlawed in the US (it's okay when white people don't respect borders). Romney's grandfather had five wives. Romney's father was born in Mexico, but obtained naturalized citizenship from being born to two US citizens. Many of those polygamists fled Mexico during the Mexican Revolution, including Romney's dad and grandparents. Some permanently fled, some later returned when things died down. Those polygamist sects still exist in Mexico today, in the same areas that are hot spots for Drug Cartels. The polygamist sects have been stock piling weapons and warring against the drug cartels for some time.


www.imcdb.org
 
2012-06-21 05:09:17 PM  

Serious Black: LasersHurt: birchman: This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.

Do you know if this glaring, shining emptiness is being portrayed in the rest of the media? It seems so obvious if you pay attention, but I don't know how much coverage it's getting generally.

There are a few people making the connection that Romney is trying to be as bland and generic as possible so as to frame the election as a referendum on Obama, but largely they're ignoring it. There was an article posted on Fark recently about how Romney resembles Dewey in his election against Truman in that regard.


I have always hated decimals. If we hadn't succumbed to the socialist metric system under the peanut president we would still be using God's own fractions.
 
2012-06-21 05:12:24 PM  

Kibbler: Can I get some catsup and mayonnaise for these tacos? Can somebody cut the crusts off my tacos please?


Are these those 7-11 tacos?
 
2012-06-21 05:13:40 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I have a plan, but it's in my car. I'll just step out to the parking lot and get it for you gentlemen. I'll be right back.. so don't move.


That was Newt's line.
 
2012-06-21 05:14:18 PM  

Dr Dreidel: And my counter is that the national identity will have to change (assuming all 5m Palestinians decide to stay - or, more likely, the countries they'd like to go don't want to lose their national identity either). Don't worry - Israelis will still be pushy merchant-types who have no concept of personal space (in both the real world and emotionally) even after there are equal numbers of Israeli Jews and Israeli Palestinians.

These are not difficult solutions, but they're hard decisions. They (both sides) are going to have to "lose" a stupid feel-good fight to win the problem of having so many people hurt/killed every year. The insanity is that they see the status quo as somehow better.


I would think the religious nature of Israel and perceived likelihood of oppression and relegation to secondary citizens would make it fairly unlikely the Israeli national identity is open to discussion of change. It's not hard to imagine a conservative (or even realistic) viewpoint/scenario in which that change leads to the destruction of Israel like most of their neighbors have been on about for some time.
 
2012-06-21 05:21:03 PM  

palelizard: Dr Dreidel: And my counter is that the national identity will have to change (assuming all 5m Palestinians decide to stay - or, more likely, the countries they'd like to go don't want to lose their national identity either). Don't worry - Israelis will still be pushy merchant-types who have no concept of personal space (in both the real world and emotionally) even after there are equal numbers of Israeli Jews and Israeli Palestinians.

These are not difficult solutions, but they're hard decisions. They (both sides) are going to have to "lose" a stupid feel-good fight to win the problem of having so many people hurt/killed every year. The insanity is that they see the status quo as somehow better.

I would think the religious nature of Israel and perceived likelihood of oppression and relegation to secondary citizens would make it fairly unlikely the Israeli national identity is open to discussion of change. It's not hard to imagine a conservative (or even realistic) viewpoint/scenario in which that change leads to the destruction of Israel like most of their neighbors have been on about for some time.


Israel will eventually morph into a secular democracy or will cease to exist. the right will resist it just like our right does (tea baggers, war on Christianity, ground zero mosque, they're taking our jobs, etc...) but it will happen. Personally I think a jewish state was a bad idea from the get go. trying to found any modern nation on archaic myth and dogma seems doomed (see iran and afghanistan).
 
2012-06-21 05:23:04 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: All_Farked_Up: All politicians should have to fill out a questionnaire on the issues and have it posted online. If you don't answer even 1 of them you don't get to run.

Who would pick the way questions are phrased?

On environmentalism, are you as a candidate:
A) For allowing faceless corporations to inject melanine, lead & nuclear waster directly into your home's water supply?
or
B) For the creation of job-killing regulations that will create 200% unemployment?


C) Inject melanin into white voters you disagree with while allowing melamine tainted products from China into the US because inspection equals job killing regulations.
 
2012-06-21 05:25:22 PM  
This is what I get coming late to a thread.....
 
2012-06-21 05:50:57 PM  
I thought President Obama was pretty clear on his stance on the issues and for the most part has remained faithful to that stance.
 
2012-06-21 10:09:29 PM  

Serious Black: LasersHurt: Serious Black: LasersHurt: birchman: This is pretty funny to watch. By not taking a side and continuously avoiding the issue he's showing obvious lack of leadership skills, but he's also making it painfully obvious that he has no actual platform, he's just telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear. And things are only going to get worse when things like debates start coming up and he actually has to appeal to the masses instead of the political rally fanatics who were already voting for him anyway.

Do you know if this glaring, shining emptiness is being portrayed in the rest of the media? It seems so obvious if you pay attention, but I don't know how much coverage it's getting generally.

There are a few people making the connection that Romney is trying to be as bland and generic as possible so as to frame the election as a referendum on Obama, but largely they're ignoring it. There was an article posted on Fark recently about how Romney resembles Dewey in his election against Truman in that regard.

Wait! Based on the Google Image Search research I did on the matter, Dewey DEFEATED Truman? OH NO

Yeah, it was a pretty dark time in our nation's history...I still shudder thinking about it.

www.technovelgy.com
 
2012-06-22 02:05:33 AM  
Well, is he also going to do election year stunt pandering that is ultimately bad for the nation too?
 
2012-06-22 08:19:03 AM  

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 585x200]


You made a troll account on 3-6-09 instead of seeing "The Watchmen" on opening day? Sad.
 
2012-06-22 08:25:56 AM  

randomjsa: A bit like the last election where Obama was basically allowed to never, ever, state his views on gay marriage.

But it's okay when a Democrat won't take a stand on a major issue before an election. It's only when those evil Republicans won't do it that it becomes a problem.


Obama has stated his views now.
Will Romney?
 
2012-06-22 12:37:35 PM  

deschinc: Rapmaster2000: I have a plan, but it's in my car. I'll just step out to the parking lot and get it for you gentlemen. I'll be right back.. so don't move.

That was Newt's line.


Newt did a lot of moving in that car.

Well, SOMEONE was doing a lot of moving in that car.
 
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