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(Slash Gear)   The dock connector on the next iphone will contain a chip in the cable just to lock out third party vendors   (slashgear.com ) divider line 192
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2012-06-21 09:43:10 AM  
Well Apple, you just made my decision to go to Android easier for me. I've always purchased what I felt was the best device at the time I was looking. I've owned 2 iPhones and 1 iPad. I put up with your proprietary bs by jailbreaking my iPhone, and changing the root password, and other tricks just to have the flexibility I want in a device. Unless the 5 is totally amazing, I'm going to switch to an Android phone and I've been eying the Asus Transformer as my new tablet solution.
 
2012-06-21 09:44:34 AM  
Who cares? Who in their right mind would plug their iPhone in with anything other than Apple Genius Approved cables and peripherals? My iPhone is too sacred of a device to be SULLIED by a third party vendor. I think this is a very smart move by Apple and just goes to show that, even without Steve Jobs, they are still in touch with exactly what the consumer wants.
 
2012-06-21 09:53:56 AM  
I don't really understand all the Apple love, they've proven again and again they want to lock out people and their vendors with their proprietary technology. F*ck Apple. Android FTW.

/droid 4 and loving it
//I much prefer open source to closed loop crap
 
2012-06-21 10:01:32 AM  

slayer199: Well Apple, you just made my decision to go to Android easier for me. I've always purchased what I felt was the best device at the time I was looking. I've owned 2 iPhones and 1 iPad. I put up with your proprietary bs by jailbreaking my iPhone, and changing the root password, and other tricks just to have the flexibility I want in a device. Unless the 5 is totally amazing, I'm going to switch to an Android phone and I've been eying the Asus Transformer as my new tablet solution.

[Scene: A buzzing auditorium. The crowd goes briefly silent, and then breaks into enthusiastic applause as Apple CEO Tim Cook strides on stage, walking purposefully to the simple podium placed front and center. There is soft click, click, clacking of both professional and phone cameras as the crowd attempts to capture this moment for their live blog or Twitter feed. As Cook reaches the podium he slightly adjusts his tie and clears his throat and the crowd goes utterly silent to hear his response to slayer199's post on Fark.com about a the as yet unreleased iPhone 5. The anticipation is palpable. And Cook responds:]


www.nationofblue.com

[Exeunt and applause]
 
2012-06-21 10:07:15 AM  

slayer199: Well Apple, you just made my decision to go to Android easier for me. I've always purchased what I felt was the best device at the time I was looking. I've owned 2 iPhones and 1 iPad. I put up with your proprietary bs by jailbreaking my iPhone, and changing the root password, and other tricks just to have the flexibility I want in a device. Unless the 5 is totally amazing, I'm going to switch to an Android phone and I've been eying the Asus Transformer as my new tablet solution.


I picked up a evo lte a few weeks ago and can't recommend the phone enough. Battery life is incredible and they seem to have fixed the "not enough storage" issue for the apps. Those were my biggest complaints with gingerbread. The only downside so far is no LTE coverage and hulu wont run. Both issues are in the works. It's worth a look. It has a twin called the One X on AT&T. Seriously nice a$$ phone
 
2012-06-21 10:12:02 AM  
Apple is a consumer electronics company. Remember this the next time someone says otherwise.
 
2012-06-21 10:13:43 AM  
/popcorn
 
2012-06-21 10:21:52 AM  
Come on, Windows Phone!

I mean I'm being optimistic, but really this is just obnoxious behavior. I've had iPads and iPhones for a while now, but I am not above switching to a Windows line of devices if they deliver something as good as what they're promising.
 
2012-06-21 10:23:17 AM  

sammyk: slayer199: Well Apple, you just made my decision to go to Android easier for me. I've always purchased what I felt was the best device at the time I was looking. I've owned 2 iPhones and 1 iPad. I put up with your proprietary bs by jailbreaking my iPhone, and changing the root password, and other tricks just to have the flexibility I want in a device. Unless the 5 is totally amazing, I'm going to switch to an Android phone and I've been eying the Asus Transformer as my new tablet solution.

I picked up a evo lte a few weeks ago and can't recommend the phone enough. Battery life is incredible and they seem to have fixed the "not enough storage" issue for the apps. Those were my biggest complaints with gingerbread. The only downside so far is no LTE coverage and hulu wont run. Both issues are in the works. It's worth a look. It has a twin called the One X on AT&T. Seriously nice a$$ phone


I got the Razr Maxx about 3 weeks ago. Same thing with the battery. So much more life to it than my old Droid Incredible. Way faster and the 4LTE is great too. I'm holding off judgement of the operating system (which is fine for now) until my phone gets updated to Ice Cream Sandwich before the end of June.
 
2012-06-21 10:27:30 AM  

Shostie: slayer199: Well Apple, you just made my decision to go to Android easier for me. I've always purchased what I felt was the best device at the time I was looking. I've owned 2 iPhones and 1 iPad. I put up with your proprietary bs by jailbreaking my iPhone, and changing the root password, and other tricks just to have the flexibility I want in a device. Unless the 5 is totally amazing, I'm going to switch to an Android phone and I've been eying the Asus Transformer as my new tablet solution.

[Scene: A buzzing auditorium. The crowd goes briefly silent, and then breaks into enthusiastic applause as Apple CEO Tim Cook strides on stage, walking purposefully to the simple podium placed front and center. There is soft click, click, clacking of both professional and phone cameras as the crowd attempts to capture this moment for their live blog or Twitter feed. As Cook reaches the podium he slightly adjusts his tie and clears his throat and the crowd goes utterly silent to hear his response to slayer199's post on Fark.com about a the as yet unreleased iPhone 5. The anticipation is palpable. And Cook responds:]

[www.nationofblue.com image 299x156]

[Exeunt and applause]


LOL.

Point is Apple users put up with Apple's BS because they make a good product. The problem is that the competition is catching up and quickly. So what does Apple do? Add more proprietary BS.
 
2012-06-21 10:28:43 AM  

LasersHurt: Come on, Windows Phone!

I mean I'm being optimistic, but really this is just obnoxious behavior. I've had iPads and iPhones for a while now, but I am not above switching to a Windows line of devices if they deliver something as good as what they're promising.


My 5 year old Zune died last weekend, and I'm looking for a replacement. I'm thinking of finally getting a smartphone. The thing is, I absolutely LOVED the Zune interface. It was clean, easy to use...the hardware was excellent also. I've always said "They need to make a Zune phone."

If the new Windows phone is truly, FINALLY, a "Zune phone," then I'll be getting that as a replacement. I really truly hope it is.
 
2012-06-21 10:30:09 AM  

InfamousBLT: LasersHurt: Come on, Windows Phone!

I mean I'm being optimistic, but really this is just obnoxious behavior. I've had iPads and iPhones for a while now, but I am not above switching to a Windows line of devices if they deliver something as good as what they're promising.

My 5 year old Zune died last weekend, and I'm looking for a replacement. I'm thinking of finally getting a smartphone. The thing is, I absolutely LOVED the Zune interface. It was clean, easy to use...the hardware was excellent also. I've always said "They need to make a Zune phone."

If the new Windows phone is truly, FINALLY, a "Zune phone," then I'll be getting that as a replacement. I really truly hope it is.


If you can wait until the end of the year, you might be a happy camper.
 
2012-06-21 10:30:41 AM  
Begun, the phone wars have
 
2012-06-21 10:30:51 AM  

bdub77: I don't really understand all the Apple love, they've proven again and again they want to lock out people and their vendors with their proprietary technology. F*ck Apple. Android FTW.

/droid 4 and loving it
//I much prefer open source to closed loop crap


Only the underlying OS of Android is open source, the Google apps (including Google Play) are proprietary. Let's not pretend any huge multinational companies care about being "open" or users; they care about profit.

Anyway, this would suck if true.
 
2012-06-21 10:40:23 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Only the underlying OS of Android is open source, the Google apps (including Google Play) are proprietary. Let's not pretend any huge multinational companies care about being "open" or users; they care about profit.


You realize there's a whole slew of apps you can add onto your phone if you root it, without using the Google Play store. Right?
 
2012-06-21 10:41:44 AM  
the app that I want for my phone is 'phone'
 
2012-06-21 10:43:30 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Begun, the phone wars have


Nah, this is just spillover from the classic platform wars that have been going on for a long time now.

I find it pretty hilarious myself.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-06-21 10:47:57 AM  
I got an iPod adapter for my car with the long, thin connector. Changing the connector would be an annoying task without the lockout logic making it impossible. If the next iThingy has a different connector it won't work in my car and will be less valuable to me.
 
2012-06-21 10:52:15 AM  
I bought an expensive, pimpy ipod / iphone speaker, which I use a lot to play music, and the dock built into the speaker system is the current (soon to be old) dock.

: (
 
2012-06-21 10:58:46 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Only the underlying OS of Android is open source, the Google apps (including Google Play) are proprietary. Let's not pretend any huge multinational companies care about being "open" or users; they care about profit.

You realize there's a whole slew of apps you can add onto your phone if you root it, without using the Google Play store. Right?


Yes, I had rooted Nexus One for two years-you can actually install non-Google Play apps, if you flip a switch in the settings, even without rooting. Though Google is more towards open than Apple, we shouldn't pretend that it's just because the want to be open. For example, they held back on releasing the code for honeycomb for a while.
 
2012-06-21 11:08:35 AM  

vernonFL: I bought an expensive, pimpy ipod / iphone speaker, which I use a lot to play music, and the dock built into the speaker system is the current (soon to be old) dock.

: (


I can't imagine that Apple wouldn't produce some kind of adapter, available online or at the Apple Store for only $19.99.
 
2012-06-21 11:11:07 AM  

SurfaceTension: sammyk: slayer199: Well Apple, you just made my decision to go to Android easier for me. I've always purchased what I felt was the best device at the time I was looking. I've owned 2 iPhones and 1 iPad. I put up with your proprietary bs by jailbreaking my iPhone, and changing the root password, and other tricks just to have the flexibility I want in a device. Unless the 5 is totally amazing, I'm going to switch to an Android phone and I've been eying the Asus Transformer as my new tablet solution.

I picked up a evo lte a few weeks ago and can't recommend the phone enough. Battery life is incredible and they seem to have fixed the "not enough storage" issue for the apps. Those were my biggest complaints with gingerbread. The only downside so far is no LTE coverage and hulu wont run. Both issues are in the works. It's worth a look. It has a twin called the One X on AT&T. Seriously nice a$$ phone

I got the Razr Maxx about 3 weeks ago. Same thing with the battery. So much more life to it than my old Droid Incredible. Way faster and the 4LTE is great too. I'm holding off judgement of the operating system (which is fine for now) until my phone gets updated to Ice Cream Sandwich before the end of June.


So far so good with ICS. The new and improved task manager is a blatant rip off of the way Palm WebOS works and I love it. Just tap the button and swipe tasks off the screen to close them or switch to other apps, also no need for a task killer. Very elegant!

No obnoxious crashes or delays. App groups are awesome too. I organized everything I use daily into a couple of groups on the home screen and everything is 2 taps away from launching. I'm left with a lot of real estate on the home screens to the left and right. I've started filling them with widgets since I don't need the space for app links anymore. I want better widgets!

Jury is still out on the chrome browser. I need to spend the time to tweak it but it does seem to run very fast and doesn't take forever to load when flash is taking a crap.

The days of apps insisting that they run on internal storage are gone. I've been able to move everything to my 32GB SD card. I've gone crazy installing app to see how far I can push it and I am nowhere near running out of storage.

I push everything I own to its breaking point and I have not found that on this phone yet.
 
2012-06-21 11:20:28 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: cameroncrazy1984: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Only the underlying OS of Android is open source, the Google apps (including Google Play) are proprietary. Let's not pretend any huge multinational companies care about being "open" or users; they care about profit.

You realize there's a whole slew of apps you can add onto your phone if you root it, without using the Google Play store. Right?

Yes, I had rooted Nexus One for two years-you can actually install non-Google Play apps, if you flip a switch in the settings, even without rooting. Though Google is more towards open than Apple, we shouldn't pretend that it's just because the want to be open. For example, they held back on releasing the code for honeycomb for a while.


Jail Break !== root

Jail Break - to remove your device from a "walled garden." On Android just hitting the switch that says allow apps from unknown sources is "jail breaking." To jail break an Apple device you must have root.

Rooted = gaining access to the base level of a file system, especially locked system files
 
2012-06-21 11:28:21 AM  
The old cables were proprietary, too. Third party vendors currently have to license from Apple to make accessories. It sounds like this chip would be a way of enforcing licensing. I doubt Apple intends to get rid of third party vendors.

Now, it would have been nice if they'd switched to an existing, standard, non-proprietary cable such as micro USB, but we're talking about Apple here.
 
2012-06-21 11:32:27 AM  

zedster: Jail Break !== root


Never said they did; though I guess I didn't make the difference clear in my post.
 
2012-06-21 11:35:44 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: zedster: Jail Break !== root

Never said they did; though I guess I didn't make the difference clear in my post.


ya, I was just clarifying for anyone reading your post, people need to understand that when you add Amazon or Barnes and Nobles app stores to your Android device you are "jail breaking" it. For most other devices out there (kindle, nook, iOS) you do have to root to jail break
 
2012-06-21 11:36:49 AM  

LasersHurt: Come on, Windows Phone!

I mean I'm being optimistic, but really this is just obnoxious behavior. I've had iPads and iPhones for a while now, but I am not above switching to a Windows line of devices if they deliver something as good as what they're promising.


Wait till Windows Phone 8. (Windows Phone 8 (AKA Apollo) is going to have Windows 8's core code governing it, so that Windows Apps can be ported to Windows Phone 8 with minimal alteration).
 
2012-06-21 11:37:15 AM  
Another example of why I've never joined the cult of Steve Jobs and bought any Apple products.
 
2012-06-21 11:39:40 AM  

sammyk: So far so good with ICS. The new and improved task manager is a blatant rip off of the way Palm WebOS works and I love it. Just tap the button and swipe tasks off the screen to close them or switch to other apps, also no need for a task killer. Very elegant!


I've been using ICS on my HP Touchpad for a month or so, and the battery management has gotten way better with it. With some minor adjustments, I can make the battery life on that thing stretch for days of moderate use.
 
2012-06-21 12:00:19 PM  
*yawn*
 
2012-06-21 12:00:22 PM  

RexTalionis: LasersHurt: Come on, Windows Phone!

I mean I'm being optimistic, but really this is just obnoxious behavior. I've had iPads and iPhones for a while now, but I am not above switching to a Windows line of devices if they deliver something as good as what they're promising.

Wait till Windows Phone 8. (Windows Phone 8 (AKA Apollo) is going to have Windows 8's core code governing it, so that Windows Apps can be ported to Windows Phone 8 with minimal alteration).


That's what I mean. Windows phone 8 / Windows 8 makes a promising set of platforms.
 
2012-06-21 12:02:52 PM  

LasersHurt: RexTalionis: LasersHurt: Come on, Windows Phone!

I mean I'm being optimistic, but really this is just obnoxious behavior. I've had iPads and iPhones for a while now, but I am not above switching to a Windows line of devices if they deliver something as good as what they're promising.

Wait till Windows Phone 8. (Windows Phone 8 (AKA Apollo) is going to have Windows 8's core code governing it, so that Windows Apps can be ported to Windows Phone 8 with minimal alteration).

That's what I mean. Windows phone 8 / Windows 8 makes a promising set of platforms.


For sure.

The problem is...Win 7 is so, so, so wonderful...I don't want to switch to 8.
 
2012-06-21 12:04:07 PM  

LasersHurt: That's what I mean. Windows phone 8 / Windows 8 makes a promising set of platforms.


I guess.. if you want to make your own choices, that's probably a good idea. That's why I like Apple products, though. They make all the decisions and I don't have to deal with thinking for myself.
 
2012-06-21 12:50:10 PM  
If Microsoft or Dell did this, shiat would be burning. Apple does it and it will be embraced.
 
2012-06-21 12:54:04 PM  

GoodyearPimp: If Microsoft or Dell did this, shiat would be burning. Apple does it and it will be embraced.


This is also how apple prevents you from running OSX on anything, but Apple hardware. The OS checks for a chip on the mobo at startup. You have to hack the OS to get around it.
 
2012-06-21 12:55:11 PM  

GoodyearPimp: Apple does it and it will be embraced.


And much Docking will occur.
 
2012-06-21 12:55:59 PM  

GoodyearPimp: If Microsoft or Dell did this, shiat would be burning. Apple does it and it will be embraced.


Yes, nobody ever speaks negatively of Apple's decision.
 
2012-06-21 12:58:02 PM  
Hah, perfect timing. I'm dumping my iphone for the new Galaxy. So sick of all of Apple's holier than thou proprietary garbage they try to jam down your throat at every opportunity.

Just to download an app they wanted me to upgrade the OS, which meant they wanted me to delete every single thing off of my iphone. Ridiculous.

If I'm on my laptop and want to download an app, Microsoft doesn't force me to delete everything off of my hard drive. But for some reason Apple doesn't have the technological ability to do the same. If they aren't careful they are going to do to themselves what they did to thesmelves back in the 80s-90s and 3rd party are going to once again swallow up their market share and eat their lunch.

Bye bye you bums! Enjoy the fail!
 
2012-06-21 12:59:17 PM  

Goodfella: Hah, perfect timing. I'm dumping my iphone for the new Galaxy. So sick of all of Apple's holier than thou proprietary garbage they try to jam down your throat at every opportunity.

Just to download an app they wanted me to upgrade the OS, which meant they wanted me to delete every single thing off of my iphone. Ridiculous.

If I'm on my laptop and want to download an app, Microsoft doesn't force me to delete everything off of my hard drive. But for some reason Apple doesn't have the technological ability to do the same. If they aren't careful they are going to do to themselves what they did to thesmelves back in the 80s-90s and 3rd party are going to once again swallow up their market share and eat their lunch.

Bye bye you bums! Enjoy the fail!


You do know that you won't lose your stuff, right? When you upgrade the OS? That's... not something that happens.
 
2012-06-21 01:00:32 PM  
www.photobasement.com

/proud!
 
2012-06-21 01:02:14 PM  

LasersHurt:

You do know that you won't lose your stuff, right? When you upgrade the OS? That's... not something that happens.


has happened twice to me, itouch 3g - aps were backed up, data was not.

the 'lets recreate 20g of mp3 playlists' routine taught me several new and inventive curse words.
 
2012-06-21 01:05:38 PM  
I have no interest in the iPhone, but I don't see why this is a big deal. The original cables are probably going to be made in China. There'll be working knockoffs on the market before there are official ones.
 
2012-06-21 01:06:50 PM  

heap: LasersHurt:

You do know that you won't lose your stuff, right? When you upgrade the OS? That's... not something that happens.

has happened twice to me, itouch 3g - aps were backed up, data was not.

the 'lets recreate 20g of mp3 playlists' routine taught me several new and inventive curse words.


Sucks dude. I have always hated iTunes with a passion. It's not particularly good at anything.
 
2012-06-21 01:08:32 PM  
Do it. Please. Squeeze those customers until they pop and say "fark this bullshiat" and switch. By the time you realise the disaster you've wrought, it'll be too late.

I have an iPod Classic and I have 4 different cables for it, one of which was the official Apple one that came with it. The rest: additional USB, car and mains. All of which cost a few quid. You think I'd spend £30 on a charger pack? EABOD.
 
2012-06-21 01:08:55 PM  

LasersHurt: heap: LasersHurt:

You do know that you won't lose your stuff, right? When you upgrade the OS? That's... not something that happens.

has happened twice to me, itouch 3g - aps were backed up, data was not.

the 'lets recreate 20g of mp3 playlists' routine taught me several new and inventive curse words.

Sucks dude. I have always hated iTunes with a passion. It's not particularly good at anything.


It's good at making money for Apple.
 
2012-06-21 01:10:56 PM  

LasersHurt:
Sucks dude. I have always hated iTunes with a passion. It's not particularly good at anything.


pretty much - just sayin, tho...it is a thing that happens. AND BRINGS FORTH THE FURY OF A THOUSAND FIREY SOU....erm...yah.

i'm feeling much better now.


really.


i dig the gadget, but the interface to access/interact with the gadget from the desktop is the biggest pile of suck i regularly use - and the OS updating process is random and painful enough that my rectum instinctively clenches when i see an update.
 
2012-06-21 01:11:04 PM  
ok, what does it mean in non-Nerdspeak? i can't dock my iphone to a PC? i have to have a Mac? I have to use their cable to dock my iphone?
 
2012-06-21 01:12:40 PM  
one question... if they're changing the port size, what happens to existing accessories? In that regard, this is suicide, isn't it?
 
2012-06-21 01:14:58 PM  

rickythepenguin: ok, what does it mean in non-Nerdspeak? i can't dock my iphone to a PC? i have to have a Mac? I have to use their cable to dock my iphone?


if you get a new gadget, you'll need to get new accessories for that gadget rather than using the accessories you had with your old gadget.

if the only accessory you have is the plug between the gadget and your computer, i don't see it mattering sweet-frig-all.
 
2012-06-21 01:16:13 PM  

rickythepenguin: ok, what does it mean in non-Nerdspeak? i can't dock my iphone to a PC? i have to have a Mac? I have to use their cable to dock my iphone?


You have to use an Apple cable or Apple approved third party device with the new style connector. If you get the new model, that is. Also if this actually happens, since it's a rumor.

Apple always made third party vendors license the port, now they're just requiring proof via a chip. In theory.
 
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