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(Athens Banner Herald)   Criminal Logic: Is it really wrong to steal a TV if it has already been stolen by the current owner? Don't the thefts sort of, you know, cancel one another out?   (onlineathens.com) divider line 20
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2012-06-21 08:30:15 AM
Only if the original owner steals it back.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-06-21 08:41:45 AM
What Elvis_Bogart said is an old rule of common law: a thief has superior title to the world at large. You can only take it from him if you have a superior right of possession, e.g. he took it from you, or he got it from a fence who got it from a thief who took it from you. There are some exceptions when a legitimate dealer in used goods sells stolen property.

Having said that, you're still a dumbass if you call the cops to report that somebody stole your stolen marijuana.
 
2012-06-21 08:46:11 AM
Well, you could buy it from him, but you'd still be in possession of stolen goods.
 
2012-06-21 09:40:08 AM
"My boyfriend bought it for me at a flea market" should autocorrect to "Yeah, it's stolen."
 
2012-06-21 09:55:09 AM
But the TV's owner told officers the 51-inch set had not been stolen - her boyfriend gave it to her after buying it at a flea market. The boyfriend currently is on jail on unspecified charges.

The woman left her apartment door unlocked while visiting a neighbor at about 1:20 p.m. Tuesday, when another neighbor saw 20-year-old Christopher Jamal Cooper running from the apartment with the TV on his back, police said.


You really think he was "running"?
 
2012-06-21 09:58:00 AM
Property is theft, right? Therefore, theft is property. Therefore this TV is mine, all right?
 
2012-06-21 09:59:05 AM
Forget that, check this out from the Athens blotter:

"A woman reported her pink .38 caliber revolver stolen from her car as it sat parked outside her boyfriend's Timothy Road house between Nov. 11 and June 12, police said. The gun went missing while the boyfriend is in jail, and his cousin 'Butterball' might be responsible, the woman told the police."

That's gold.

/Athenian
 
2012-06-21 09:59:49 AM

blazemongr: Property is theft, right? Therefore, theft is property. Therefore this TV is mine, all right?


By that same reasoning, the .45 caliber hollow-point bullets loaded in my handgun are also yours.
 
2012-06-21 10:01:47 AM
What about if your neighbors are selling copious amounts of ganja they have stolen from a group that was growing the crop for a local drug kingpin who has a penchent for setting people on fire? Can/should you then sell it back to the kingpin to settle a poker game you lost, but only because that particular tough cheated you out of the money in the first place?
 
2012-06-21 10:06:34 AM
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Get real, would ya? You and I are both like guys who had this rich neighbor - Xerox - who left the door open all the time. And you go sneakin' in to steal a TV set. Only when you get there, you realize that I got there first. I got the loot, Steve! And you're yellin'? "That's not fair. I wanted to try to steal it first." You're too late.
 
2012-06-21 10:14:06 AM
Two Wrongs don't make a right, but two Wrights make airplanes.
 
2012-06-21 10:25:11 AM
No, now it's SUPER stolen.
 
2012-06-21 10:39:06 AM
I always wondered if it's illegal to steal your stuff back from somebody who stole it from you. Say your car gets jacked, and a couple of days you notice it in some dude's driveway. How far can you go to get it back before it's a crime? Assume you have spare keys. Can you walk onto his property, get in the car and drive away in it? Now assume you DON'T have spare keys. Can you sneak into his kitchen and grab the keys off his table? Can you beat the crap out of him to get the keys? Can you hold him at gunpoint until he gives you the keys? Can you shoot him dead like the dirty dog he is, casually fish your keys out of his bloody pockets, and then wipe them off on his favorite AC-DC concert t-shirt?

At what point does his criminal possession of your property cancel out whatever it is you do to get it back?
 
2012-06-21 10:42:42 AM

tillerman35: At what point does his criminal possession of your property cancel out whatever it is you do to get it back?


I'd assume you can probably walk up his driveway if you have the keys and drive it off (probably technically illegal but the cops most likely wouldn't hassle you about it). Going into his house will probably take you over the line (shoulda called the police) and beating the crap out of him or holding him at gunpoint will certainly get you arrested for assault and/or battery.
 
2012-06-21 10:43:45 AM
You know, two Wongs don't make a white.

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2012-06-21 10:44:15 AM

incendi: beating the crap out of him or holding him at gunpoint will certainly get you arrested for assault and/or battery.


Well, assuming he has the balls to call the police and tell them that he just got the crap beat out of him by the owner of the car he stole.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-06-21 10:55:16 AM
tillerman35

OJ Simpson is in prison for using excess force to reclaim property he had a plausible claim to ownership of.

The rule for repos is you can not cause a breach of the peace. I imagine that ought to apply to taking things you own.

If your car has been reported stolen you should call the police rather than take it back. If they catch you driving your own car they will treat you as a car thief.
 
2012-06-21 10:57:46 AM
He must've had some experience stealing before. He didn't go with the 'door was unlocked, so I took what I wanted defense'.
 
2012-06-21 12:27:10 PM
There's only one thief in the Army; everybody else is just trying to get his shiat back.
 
2012-06-21 12:29:03 PM

Julie Cochrane: There's only one thief in the Army; everybody else is just trying to get his shiat back.


Shoulda said where that came from -- it's a common Army saying. It just kinda applies to petty theft in life, generally.
 
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