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(The Daily Caller)   Nancy Pelosi "I could have arrested Karl Rove any day. I'm not kidding. There's a prison here in the Capitol." Reporter, "On what charges? Ms. Pelosi, "Oh, any number of charges"   (dailycaller.com) divider line 49
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2012-06-21 10:09:59 AM  
5 votes:
FTFA: "Oh, any number" of charges could have been brought against Rove, Pelosi said. "But there were some specific ones for his being in contempt of Congress."

Good for leaving that part out Submitter.
2012-06-21 09:38:54 AM  
5 votes:
0.tqn.com

Why not for his role in exposing Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA agent.
2012-06-21 09:00:26 AM  
4 votes:
For the charge of being Karl Rove. Isn't that enough?
2012-06-21 12:01:05 PM  
3 votes:

John the Magnificent: I have long suspected that Rove's mother must have secretly wished she had thrown out the baby and raised the dirty diaper.


I have long suspected that that's exactly what she did.
2012-06-21 11:57:47 AM  
3 votes:
The real point to make is Obama and his justice department could have opened an investigation into Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzalez and their use of torture. Talk about your trump cards, I wanna see Obama troll the GOP by starting that shiat.
2012-06-21 11:27:54 PM  
2 votes:

archichris: Because People in power are Stupid: [0.tqn.com image 400x354]

Why not for his role in exposing Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA agent.

You may be interested in the retraction printed by the Washington Post on the Plame Affair.......

Friday, September 1, 2006; Page A20

WE'RE RELUCTANT to return to the subject of former CIA employee Valerie Plame because of our oft-stated belief that far too much attention and debate in Washington has been devoted to her story and that of her husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, over the past three years. But all those who have opined on this affair ought to take note of the not-so-surprising disclosure that the primary source of the newspaper column in which Ms. Plame's cover as an agent was purportedly blown in 2003 was former deputy secretary of state Richard L. Armitage...

It follows that one of the most sensational charges leveled against the Bush White House - that it orchestrated the leak of Ms. Plame's identity to ruin her career and thus punish Mr. Wilson - is untrue. The partisan clamor that followed the raising of that allegation by Mr. Wilson in the summer of 2003 led to the appointment of a special prosecutor, a costly and prolonged investigation, and the indictment of Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, on charges of perjury. All of that might have been avoided had Mr. Armitage's identity been known three years ago...

Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming - falsely, as it turned out - that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted res ...


As if I'm so stupid as to mistake an editorial for a retraction? I know YOU are that stupid but I am not..

Here is one back for you.

Media figures repeat false claim that Armitage role in Plame leak exonerates Libby and Rove
August 31, 2006 9:39 pm ET
SUMMARY: Numerous media figures have asserted that a recent report purportedly identifying former deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage as Robert Novak's original source for Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA operative prove that Karl Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby were not involved in the leak of her identity. However, Armitage's role as Novak's first source is not inconsistent with Rove's and Libby's involvements in the leak -- both were original sources of the information for two other reporters.
2012-06-21 03:12:12 PM  
2 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Why would she even bother to say this? Why am I supposed to be happy that Pelosi chose to pass on arresting Karl Rove?


She was saying that she didn't pursue a witch-hunt back in the Bush days, but the GOP doesn't seem to have that same level of deference.

That's all.

"You know, I could've arrested farking ROVE of all people. For pretty much anything. Yeah. We have that power. You know why I didn't? Cause pointless political theater is farking childish and doesn't help improve the quality of life of this country's citizens one iota. Oh, btw, how're those jobs programs coming along TEAbaggers?"
2012-06-21 02:12:45 PM  
2 votes:
Sorry Nancy.

The day you "took impeachment off the table" is the day I stopped giving a flying fark about anything you have to say.

You make it very hard to believe you weren't complicit in the same things Bush & Co was being accused of. Because if so, you deserve to rot in the cell next to George.

While I hope the Dems take the House back, I hope you never get close to the speakership again.
2012-06-21 01:50:09 PM  
2 votes:

bikerific: So, let's try to sum up and paraphrase.
:
Republicans: We're going to find Eric Holder in contempt of Congress!
Pelosi: We Democrats could have found Karl Rove in contempt of Congress, and even had him arrested. But we didn't, because that's juvenile and unproductive.
Republicans: OMG Nancy Pelosi wants to arrest Karl Rove!
Am I wrong?



Sounds about right. But it was an amazingly stupid response from Nancy Pelosi. The charges the Republicans are going after here are frickin retarded.

Fast and Furious started under George W Bush where they sold guns to shady dudes to try to track them to mexican drug cartels. Obama took over and appointed Holder. Then, and...

this is what the GOP actually believes:

Holder and Obama thought up a sekrit plot to ban guns. All of the previous big shootings didn't do anything to help gun bans occur so they had to think bigger, like mexican drug cartels. So Obama decided to relax gun laws during his first 4 years and directed Holder to create Fast and Furious (by the way we forgot Bush started it) with the hope that mexican drug cartels would have a huge massacre with the guns so Obama could then get re-elected to a second term after lulling all the gun advocates into believing he was okay and then ban guns entirely and constitutionally remove the 2nd amendment.

No, seriously, that's what they actually believe. And now Eric Holder has to answer for it and explain why this isn't a sekrit plot to get rid of the 2nd amendment.
2012-06-21 12:09:16 PM  
2 votes:

snowshovel: And yes, I would also love to see a detailed specific list of things that could get Rove arrested in relation to contempt of court.


Contempt of Congress, not court. They subpoenaed him and he didn't show up. On July 30, 2008, the Judiciary Committee recommended that he be held in contempt of Congress. Nancy Pelosi did not push that recommendation forward.

Saying she could have done it "any day" is a bit of a reach, but Nancy Pelosi definitely had it within her power to have him arrested.
2012-06-21 12:00:07 PM  
2 votes:
I have long suspected that Rove's mother must have secretly wished she had thrown out the baby and raised the dirty diaper.
2012-06-21 11:58:24 AM  
2 votes:
People who vote for this woman are f*cked in the head.
2012-06-21 11:33:23 AM  
2 votes:
Coulda woulda shoulda. Nancy was all about letting the base go on with impeachment and war-crimes whargarbl until the Democrats grabbed the reins of power. And then? Apparently the war crimes weren't war crimes any more or something.

She did a great job making Newt Gingrich look like a paragon of integrity. When he and the Republicans wanted to impeach Clinton they went ahead and did it. You can argue with their reasoning and conclusions, but having reached the conclusion they did, the GOP didn't say "we think these are impeachable offenses BUT, well, Bubba's got a 60-percent approval rating and my guys on the Appropriations committee do like their defense pork..." They went ahead with it, lost the vote, and took their lumps in the '98 elections. Which is the way it's supposed to work.
2012-06-21 10:04:37 AM  
2 votes:
"On what charges?"

I thought we didn't need to charge people? Jose Padilla wasn't charged for over 3 years.
2012-06-21 09:39:19 AM  
2 votes:
Pretty much the textbook definition of "not helping"
2012-06-21 09:00:27 PM  
1 votes:

Fart_Machine: This must be a posting from the Bizarro Universe where a serial adulterer like Gingrich gets to play the integrity card by pushing for a long and costly investigation and impeachment which polarized the country and Pelosi is a terrible human being for failing to do so.


Having arrived at the conclusion that a president committed high crimes and misdemeanors, a member of Congress is supposed to do what...punt? An impeachment vote isn't a highway-appropriations bill. You don't get to fark around and stick your finger in the wind on it. What Gingrich and the Republicans were doing was NOT popular with the nation, but they went through with it using the system we have to deal with such things (and not the system we might wish we had). They didn't have the votes, they lost the vote, they got their asses handed to them that fall.

Now, put yourselves in the shoes of a Kucinich or one of the other several dozen leftists who were chirping about Bush war crimes and impeachment and so forth in '05-06. Supposedly, you fervently believe that the president and vice president have committed high crimes and misdemeanors and must be brought to justice. And then your party gets power in '07 and amazingly there's not a peep about impeachment or war crimes out of any of them, let alone a floor vote - heck, once he got a nice seat on the appropriations committee, uberleftist Maurice Hinchey was holding press conferences every other week about all the defense pork he was bringing back to his district.

So much for speaking truth to power.

I would have thought a lot more of the left-wingers if they had demanded a vote, knowing they'd lose and probably take a political hit. But they took the weasel's way out. So, yeah - they're less principled than Gingrich.
2012-06-21 05:40:14 PM  
1 votes:

radioshack: lincoln65: I haven't been following the F and F story because IDGAF it makes dems look bad, but obviously they screwed up and should have resolved this thing years ago.

Yeah, only 200 or so Mexicans and American law enforcement officials have been killed because of it. No reason to GAF. Dumbass.


Guns don't kill people.
I've been under the impression that there's no shortage of guns in mexican cartels, so what makes these so special?
Maybe there really is a gun shortage, that must be why the cartels prefer to assassinations by beheading.
2012-06-21 03:43:54 PM  
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: Coulda woulda shoulda. Nancy was all about letting the base go on with impeachment and war-crimes whargarbl until the Democrats grabbed the reins of power. And then? Apparently the war crimes weren't war crimes any more or something.

She did a great job making Newt Gingrich look like a paragon of integrity. When he and the Republicans wanted to impeach Clinton they went ahead and did it. You can argue with their reasoning and conclusions, but having reached the conclusion they did, the GOP didn't say "we think these are impeachable offenses BUT, well, Bubba's got a 60-percent approval rating and my guys on the Appropriations committee do like their defense pork..." They went ahead with it, lost the vote, and took their lumps in the '98 elections. Which is the way it's supposed to work.


This must be a posting from the Bizarro Universe where a serial adulterer like Gingrich gets to play the integrity card by pushing for a long and costly investigation and impeachment which polarized the country and Pelosi is a terrible human being for failing to do so.
2012-06-21 03:40:03 PM  
1 votes:

Brubold: Oh and btw, I don't recall Rove being the Attorney General of the United States.


And yet he was involved in DOJ firings.
2012-06-21 03:08:19 PM  
1 votes:
I'm not sure that I'd even know who Pelosi was if it wasn't for Republicans getting all butthurt about her all the time.

Same thing goes for Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. I'd never heard of these people until Republicans started biatching about them.
2012-06-21 03:06:47 PM  
1 votes:

Coelacanth: Cythraul: For the charge of being Karl Rove. Isn't that enough?

Murdering 2.5 million dead innocent Iraq civilians (according to the 200 year old British medical journal, The Lancet)?


And Nancy Pelosi let it happen. She could have arrested Rove at any time, but she thought "Meh, Iraqis can't vote for me."

As the old saying goes, All it takes for evil to triumph is for Nancy Pelosi to do nothing.
2012-06-21 02:50:34 PM  
1 votes:
Nancy Pelosi's a cowardly farking pussy
2012-06-21 02:42:56 PM  
1 votes:

radioshack: Richard Armitage admitted it was he who leaked the information. Google "Richard Armitage Valerie Plame".


www.pridelife.co.uk

On a related note, here is one of the many things you'll see in a GIS for "patsy."
2012-06-21 02:42:51 PM  
1 votes:

MFL: An Uncle of mine is a big wig in his own right and recently got to take a tour of congress and check out their offices and meet some of them in person.

He said it was really kind of cool because behind the scenes it's much different than the craziness we see on TV. Most of these people get along pretty well personally. He saw many of their offices and got to mingle with the staff and have lunch with a few of them.

From what he gathered....

A. John Boehner is personally very well liked and a fun guy.
B. Paul Ryan is the "real deal" and widely respected by his peers.
C. Jim Webb is the "real deal" as well and widely respected by his peers.
D. Everyone hates Nancy Pelosi including her own staff.


Cool story bro. My Aunt worked as a security guard on the Hill for 97 years and she says Pelosi is the nicest person she has ever met in her whole life and her staff work for her for free because they love her so much. Also Boehner is a cruel and sadistic bastard who kills hobos and puppies just to get a partial chub to beat off.
2012-06-21 02:30:14 PM  
1 votes:

relcec: what do you disagree with?


Pretty much your entire narrative. I disagree with the way you painted the entire farking thing. I guess I don't feel up for a pages long reply war with you. Most days I am.

For specifics:

the truth is they are thick in it.

Nah. Far too tin foil hatty. Prosecution would have stopped at the top, at the people making the decisions. Not with the people who had knowledge and let it continue. Obama didn't want to spend his political capital picking that fight because he had plenty of other fights ready to go. I disagree with him, I think it matters, I think there should have been hearings. But it's not because we would have seen all the D's and R's behind bars.
2012-06-21 02:07:49 PM  
1 votes:

lennavan: relcec: so signed off on it through acquiescence

You and I will agree to disagree on this specific point. I think this is fundamentally stupid. You presumably think it is logically sound.


what do you disagree with?

the fact that pelosi was told about water boarding and didn't have any problem with it indicates her acquiescence? you think her hands are clean?

there was another form of torture she was told that had not been approved and she told the CIA that form was definitely not kosher. read the link. waterboarding she had no objection to.

if you think the leader of one of our two political parties staying silent when being briefed about torture while objecting to other forms doesn't amount to acquiescence then you aren't as intelligent as I thought.

and more importantly if the democrats didn't believe the same exact thing as I do about their own acquiescence they would have investigated and charged bush administration officials and they would be in jail right now. the truth is they are thick in it.

that's why nothing has happened. and you all should have realized this years ago. it would have been insanity for any political party that was going to engage in torture to first not guarantee themselves that the other party was going to implicate themselves as well.
MFL
2012-06-21 02:01:38 PM  
1 votes:
An Uncle of mine is a big wig in his own right and recently got to take a tour of congress and check out their offices and meet some of them in person.

He said it was really kind of cool because behind the scenes it's much different than the craziness we see on TV. Most of these people get along pretty well personally. He saw many of their offices and got to mingle with the staff and have lunch with a few of them.

From what he gathered....

A. John Boehner is personally very well liked and a fun guy.
B. Paul Ryan is the "real deal" and widely respected by his peers.
C. Jim Webb is the "real deal" as well and widely respected by his peers.
D. Everyone hates Nancy Pelosi including her own staff.
2012-06-21 02:01:15 PM  
1 votes:

lincoln65: Apparently no one remembers Karl Rove repeatedly claiming executive privilege and refusing to testify before congress. I think he was under supeona during the Valerie Plame investigation.
But Pelosi let it go. She didn't even try to get treatment for Alberto Gonzales' severe acute amnesia.

Clearly this means dems are the true monsters.


Sadly, it means that the Dems were toady sycophants to the Republican Nazi Party of 2001-2009, frantic to get their hands onto the flagpole and carry it around a few times, shouting "USA! USA! Remember the Heroes!" Rove kept swatting their hands away and chiding them the way a mother chides impatient children, "Now now! You wait your turn or no dessert!" And they went doe-eyed and their clamoring fell to a low pleading, "Please, Daddy! Puh-lease! We'll be good now!"

Then the whole thing went sick on them and Rove said, OK, here, wave the flag now. It's your turn. Go ahead! And the Dems were foolish enough to go for that, and try to suck up the last dregs of the jackbooted patriotism bandwagon. So they're thoroughly compromised and implicated and dirty. Not to mention gullible.

Pelosi as much as any of them.

Drop the Democratic Party in the ocean and let it sink, I say. That doesn't mean that I fail to see for one second which party started the whole thing, which party was drunk on power and glorying in what it thought was a Thousand Year Reich. But sink the Democratic Party in the ocean. Good riddance.

Something really important about our republic died, or was at least knocked into a deep coma, during that ugly, nasty, vile era. It may eventually recover, but I have my doubts, and even if it does, it won't be for a long time.
2012-06-21 01:52:43 PM  
1 votes:

relcec: so signed off on it through acquiescence


You and I will agree to disagree on this specific point. I think this is fundamentally stupid. You presumably think it is logically sound.
2012-06-21 01:46:44 PM  
1 votes:

lennavan: The real point to make is Obama and his justice department could have opened an investigation into Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzalez and their use of torture. Talk about your trump cards, I wanna see Obama troll the GOP by starting that shiat.


and why don't you think the Bush Administration hasn't had to account for their misdeeds?

Obama is looking out for the good of the country? Obama (and the democratic majority congress before him that also could have investigated) is trying to heal the partisan divide by letting sleeping torture dogs lie?

you are very smart. I know those motivations sound incredible to you.


the answer to the question "why would democrat leadership on the hill (who had a majority in both houses starting in 2006) and the Obama administration leave such a devastating political card as torture investigation on the table?" is the democratic leadership, including Pelosi, got up to date torture progress reports back in 2002 and so signed off on it through acquiescence.

that is the only reason the bush administration wasn't held to account by the democratic majority in congress, and then by the Obama administration. the democrat leadership were complicit in the torture.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ex-cia-counterterror-chief-pe lo si-lied-about-waterboarding/2012/04/30/gIQAQFGtrT_story.html


/and I called this back in 2009 when all you farkers couldn't understand why obama wasn't quick to indict bush. it's been clear for a long time that the only reason a torture investigation wouldn't be used as a political weapon was if torture implementation was a bipartisan consensus and thus couldn't be.
2012-06-21 01:39:08 PM  
1 votes:
So, let's try to sum up and paraphrase.
:

Republicans: We're going to find Eric Holder in contempt of Congress!

Pelosi: We Democrats could have found Karl Rove in contempt of Congress, and even had him arrested. But we didn't, because that's juvenile and unproductive.

Republicans: OMG Nancy Pelosi wants to arrest Karl Rove!



Am I wrong?
2012-06-21 01:32:08 PM  
1 votes:

TIKIMAN87: Lando Lincoln: TIKIMAN87: People who vote for this woman are f*cked in the head.

Because you don't like her?

The things this woman has said makes blood shoot from my ears.


"America will be far safer if we reduce the chances of a terrorist attack in one of our cities than if we diminish the civil liberties of our own people." - Nancy Pelosi

That's downright unAmerican. Patriots have no need for civil liberties.
2012-06-21 01:30:24 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe for kicking off an illegal oil war based on a complete lie?

WHY DIDN'T YOU
2012-06-21 01:12:32 PM  
1 votes:
Why would she even bother to say this? Why am I supposed to be happy that Pelosi chose to pass on arresting Karl Rove?
2012-06-21 01:10:38 PM  
1 votes:
I love Pelosi. She ties them up in knots.
2012-06-21 12:53:52 PM  
1 votes:

TIKIMAN87: The things this woman has said makes blood shoot from my ears.


And brains. Don't forget about all the brains that fell out of your ears along with the blood. Lots and lots and lots of brain matter. Gone forever. So sad. You could have been somebody.
2012-06-21 12:47:51 PM  
1 votes:
and hey, we all know Mitt Romney wouldn't abuse executive privilege.

Issa is on a partisan witch hunt. This all has nothing to do with Holder or Obama. They have given over 99.5% of all the documents related to this.

Did Obama plan this? NO.
Did Holder plan this? NO.
Did either Obama or Holder execute the plan? NO.

But hey, GOP, KFTC.

Remember the last time a Republican used executive privilege it was to cover-up treason of outing a CIA agent.
2012-06-21 12:28:48 PM  
1 votes:
♪♫ All the Federales say
They could have caught him any day
He only got away
Out of kindness, I suppose..♫♪
2012-06-21 12:21:32 PM  
1 votes:

Coelacanth: Cythraul: For the charge of being Karl Rove. Isn't that enough?

Murdering 2.5 million dead innocent Iraq civilians (according to the 200 year old British medical journal, The Lancet)?


You'd think after 200 years they'd figure out you can't actually murder a dead Iraqi.
2012-06-21 12:07:56 PM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: For the charge of being Karl Rove. Isn't that enough?


Murdering 2.5 million dead innocent Iraq civilians (according to the 200 year old British medical journal, The Lancet)?
2012-06-21 12:05:39 PM  
1 votes:
Since it is the 30th anniversary of Watergate and all - a young Karl Rove worked on Nixon's re-election campaign in 1972.
2012-06-21 12:05:19 PM  
1 votes:

cman: Cue letsseehowlowthevotesgo.png

Cant have a thread on dark against liberals, now can we?


No, just can't have a Fark thread against liberals without lying.
2012-06-21 11:58:14 AM  
1 votes:

Somacandra: FTFA: "Oh, any number" of charges could have been brought against Rove, Pelosi said. "But there were some specific ones for his being in contempt of Congress."


Came here to point out that his brazen and repeated refusal to show up when subpoenaed by Congress would be the obvious one, good to see Nancy did it for me.
2012-06-21 11:56:02 AM  
1 votes:
Isn't knowingly not turning in a criminal also a criminal offense?
2012-06-21 11:30:28 AM  
1 votes:
So why the hell didn't you do it, Nancy? You have failed me for the last time.
2012-06-21 11:22:07 AM  
1 votes:
Pelosi wants to talk about jobs and how the GOP-controlled House has done absolutely ZERO to help the economy but is instead being incredibly divisive by bringing up issues like this. The truth is the House has no interest to help the economy, because of the elections. Pelosi's message has been consistent but has been continually drowned out by the Loud Noises Division of the GOP.

I agree that the ATF totally F'd up here, they were trying to figure out where the guns were going but basically lied when asked about gunwalking. BUT - I see her point.

The GOP is a much bigger disaster than Fast and Furious.

But just to reiterate what Nancy Pelosi has been saying the past two years, and what Congress should be working on:

JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS
2012-06-21 11:05:20 AM  
1 votes:
I heard he shot Trayvon Martin.
2012-06-21 10:25:19 AM  
1 votes:

Somacandra: FTFA: "Oh, any number" of charges could have been brought against Rove, Pelosi said. "But there were some specific ones for his being in contempt of Congress."

Good for leaving that part out Submitter.


I'm confused. Are you saying that subby misrepresented Pelosi's quote in order to either appease or inflame people of particular political ideologies? But...but...why?

Anyways, now that we're all on the same page, let's all make fun of BillCo's shoes. :P
2012-06-21 10:02:07 AM  
1 votes:
Well then shiat or get off the pot.
 
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