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(Denver Post)   The Colorado Rockies formally apply for Little League membership, and go to a four-man rotation with a pitch count of 75. Nolan Ryan seen limbering up his noogie fist   (denverpost.com) divider line 24
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2012-06-20 10:09:38 PM
Solution, Trade Carlos Gonzalez for Jacob Turner!!
 
2012-06-20 10:20:47 PM
I'm probably wrong, but wasn't the mid-1990s Braves the last team to run a 4-man rotation for any extended period of time? For the opposite reason?

/God the Rockies suck
//almost as much as the Cubs
 
2012-06-20 10:28:08 PM
So, let me get this straight... the idea is "let's just assign two pitchers to both pitch 3-5 innings (depending on effectiveness) on each day". So that's 8 pitchers in a 4 day rotation, with the remaining 4 being your back end of the bullpen.

Eh... it might work if those 8 pitchers are all roughly equally good. The 5 man rotation only really works when you've got 5 pitchers who are good enough that 7 innings of them is better than 4 innings + 4 of some other guy.

/Glad to see White & Pomeranz are working out terribly for you guys
//Hopefully Ubaldo can actually pitch above replacement level for the rest of the season
 
2012-06-20 11:01:31 PM

AliceBToklasLives: I'm probably wrong, but wasn't the mid-1990s Braves the last team to run a 4-man rotation for any extended period of time? For the opposite reason?

/God the Rockies suck
//almost as much as the Cubs


Braves used 5 man. In 95 when they won it all, they had Glavine, Smoltz, and Avery make 29 starts, with 28 for Maddux and 26 for Mercker. Jason Schmidt had 2 starts at age 22 and someone named Matt Murray made a start.
 
2012-06-20 11:06:41 PM
I like the Rockies when they win their last 21 straight games to clinch a wild card.
i wish thems well!
/J Weaver is back!
 
2012-06-20 11:06:53 PM
I'm surprised the Rangers didn't do this first.

Also, didn't LaRussa use a 3-innings-per-pitcher plan for part of one season with the A's?
 
2012-06-20 11:09:47 PM
This could almost sort of work. The Rockies have a pretty decent pen.
 
2012-06-20 11:12:08 PM
I just finished watching them completely blow it against my sorry-ass Phillies. The game ended on an E-3. The Rockies blew at least three chances to win that game. Crazy finish.
 
2012-06-20 11:20:12 PM
the rockies are suffering from inter leagueitis
 
2012-06-20 11:29:21 PM
I get free tickets to every game, a lot of the time they are in like the second row down the third base line. Fark the monforts, odudd and tracy. I won't even give those sick farks my concession money anymore. I used to work at coors field for farks sake and those ass holes have only managed to produce 1 fluke team that reached the world series. The rockies need to clean house from top to bottom
 
2012-06-20 11:37:10 PM
Just when I thought the Phillies were playing the worst ball in baseball, along comes the Rockies to shatter that illusion. I find it difficult to believe that Jamie Moyer couldn't have made a decent contribution as a starter.
 
2012-06-20 11:58:12 PM
And Tulo is having groin surgery; must be high times...
 
2012-06-21 12:07:32 AM

expobill: the rockies are suffering from inter leagueitis


no, the rockies were awful way before interleague.

From 2007-2011, the Rockies had the best interleague record of any NL team

// sad rockies fan
 
2012-06-21 12:21:44 AM
Are they going to introduce the Mercy Rule?
 
2012-06-21 12:21:53 AM

pacified: expobill: the rockies are suffering from inter leagueitis

no, the rockies were awful way before interleague.

From 2007-2011, the Rockies had the best interleague record of any NL team

// sad rockies fan


this year they have the inter league jitters, that's why it's an "-itis"
good luck with thems, Larry Walker rules!
 
2012-06-21 12:29:02 AM
Personally I'd like to see three-man rotations and the pitcher throws every single farking inning, win or lose, like they did over a hundred years ago. It'll never happen of course, but I'd kinda like to see it.

/used to have La Russa Baseball for the Sega Genesis and for some reason my pitchers were always tired after a few innings
 
2012-06-21 01:51:18 AM
It's not Little League until you get them on the 20 pitches a day every day rotation.
 
2012-06-21 04:16:49 AM
Let's have the Rockies relegated to AAA and promote the Sacramento Rivercats or Albuquerque Isotopes.

/seriously, why not have promotion and relegation in MLB? It would keep the game interesting for the dozens of fans left in Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Kansas City.
 
2012-06-21 10:47:07 AM

kiwannabee: Let's have the Rockies relegated to AAA and promote the Sacramento Rivercats or Albuquerque Isotopes.

/seriously, why not have promotion and relegation in MLB? It would keep the game interesting for the dozens of fans left in Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Kansas City.


Because the AAA teams are owned by the MLB teams and play in second and third rate cities in stadiums that seat 15000?
 
2012-06-21 12:18:43 PM

kiwannabee: Let's have the Rockies relegated to AAA and promote the Sacramento Rivercats or Albuquerque Isotopes.

/seriously, why not have promotion and relegation in MLB? It would keep the game interesting for the dozens of fans left in Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Kansas City.


Aside from the fact that ML teams own the minors (so relegation makes no sense):
The best minor league team would win roughly 50 games. The worst ML team would win 80% of their minor league games
 
2012-06-21 12:55:40 PM
Guthrie was horrible in Baltimore. What did you think, he was going to miraculously morph into a Cy Young award winner?
 
2012-06-21 05:40:26 PM

You're the jerk... jerk: Aside from the fact that ML teams own the minors (so relegation makes no sense):
The best minor league team would win roughly 50 games. The worst ML team would win 80% of their minor league games


The fact that the MLB teams own the minors is a big deal, but teams that get promoted have an influx of money to get more talent based on stuff like increased ticket sales and better TV contracts, and teams that get relegated lose this extra money and have to shed players to keep on budget.
 
2012-06-21 06:05:24 PM

12349876: You're the jerk... jerk: Aside from the fact that ML teams own the minors (so relegation makes no sense):
The best minor league team would win roughly 50 games. The worst ML team would win 80% of their minor league games

The fact that the MLB teams own the minors is a big deal, but teams that get promoted have an influx of money to get more talent based on stuff like increased ticket sales and better TV contracts, and teams that get relegated lose this extra money and have to shed players to keep on budget.


MLB contracts do not work that way, there would have to be complete restructuring of how they are handled for this to even make sense.
 
2012-06-22 11:23:21 AM

Communist_Manifesto: I used to work at coors field for farks sake and those ass holes have only managed to produce 1 fluke team that reached the world series.


There are 16 NL teams, which, if everyone were equal, would mean that you could expect one WS appearance every 16 years. They've appeared in the WS once and this is what, their 20th year of existence, one of which there was no WS so that year doesn't matter anyway?

Damn sports fans are annoying with their expectations.
 
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