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2012-06-20 10:07:21 AM  
Will we have to switch to medium and well-done earth elements?
 
2012-06-20 10:10:51 AM  
There's still a wealth of rare earth minerals in the bottom of the sea, just like Howard Hughes claimed (although his GSF Explorer used that as a cover story while it recovered a sunken Russian sub).
 
2012-06-20 11:48:05 AM  
There are a pissload of REEs around the globe, but they're usually hard to mine. Better to sound the alarm early and get people working on safe and efficient extraction methods.
 
2012-06-20 11:53:42 AM  
I only buy organic ipads.
 
2012-06-20 12:50:21 PM  
If only we recycled our electronics as much as we recycled news stories.
 
2012-06-20 01:02:36 PM  

wildcardjack: If only we recycled our electronics as much as we recycled news stories.


Landfill mining for discarded electronics will probably become a thing at some point.
 
2012-06-20 01:09:01 PM  
So is there any truth to this or is it just an excuse to jack up prices?
 
2012-06-20 01:10:55 PM  
www.recordsale.de

??
 
2012-06-20 01:11:45 PM  

beantowndog: I only buy organic ipads.


My iPad is Free Range
 
2012-06-20 01:12:37 PM  
Golf clap, subby. Splendidly subtle.
 
2012-06-20 01:13:43 PM  

StrikitRich: beantowndog: I only buy organic ipads.

My iPad is Free Range


Mine's a Chinese knock-off that uses recycled pieces from many iPads and other failed tablet computers
 
2012-06-20 01:32:39 PM  

beantowndog: I only buy organic ipads.


I only buy ones made of wood.

technabob.com
 
2012-06-20 01:36:22 PM  
I had a surprisingly varied series of responses float through my head after reading.

1.) Running out of resources on Earth? Maybe those SpaceX guys are onto something...

2.) Funny how everything popular suddenly needs lots of rare stuff as soon as it gets popular, thereby becoming more expensive...

3.) But, then again, anything popular often uses up resources faster, by virtue of being popular... so, meh.

4.) Hey, maybe you should be able to TRADE THE DAMNED THINGS IN for a materials value greater than "gee, thanks, please pay us to ship your hazmat back to us, then pay full price for a new one..."
 
2012-06-20 01:40:59 PM  

Jubeebee: wildcardjack: If only we recycled our electronics as much as we recycled news stories.

Landfill mining for discarded electronics will probably become a thing at some point.


I hope you like being right :)

Why landfill mining could be the next big thing

A new project that will reuse 16.5m tonnes of rubbish from a Belgian landfill site could help solve a host of environmental problems

static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-06-20 01:47:00 PM  

Jubeebee: wildcardjack: If only we recycled our electronics as much as we recycled news stories.

Landfill mining for discarded electronics will probably become a thing at some point.


I was just thinking... The only way to make it profitable is to do in it bulk, so why not include electronics as something accepted in the recycling bin. At the sort facilities you'll get enough to aggregate and sell in bulk.
 
2012-06-20 01:50:21 PM  

wildcardjack: Jubeebee: wildcardjack: If only we recycled our electronics as much as we recycled news stories.

Landfill mining for discarded electronics will probably become a thing at some point.

I was just thinking... The only way to make it profitable is to do in it bulk, so why not include electronics as something accepted in the recycling bin. At the sort facilities you'll get enough to aggregate and sell in bulk.


I think technically you aren't supposed to throw out things like computer monitors out in the standard trash any more; you are supposed to treat them as hazardous waste like old cleaning products and used oil and take them to special disposal centers.

Not that your average Joe Schmoe actually does this (although big companies do).
 
2012-06-20 01:51:47 PM  
4.) Hey, maybe you should be able to TRADE THE DAMNED THINGS IN for a materials value greater than "gee, thanks, please pay us to ship your hazmat back to us, then pay full price for a new one..."

You can sell your used iPad instead of throwing it out, if it's still working. That works for other electronics too, but your blind hatred makes me assume this is about iPads.
 
2012-06-20 01:59:03 PM  

foo monkey: Will we have to switch to medium and well-done earth elements?


Phooey! Only an uncivilized idiot would use their earth elements at anything more than medium rare. Otherwise, it's just a sad waste of earth elements.
 
2012-06-20 02:09:51 PM  
The United States has huge reserves of rare earths, but we don't mine them - we let China mine theirs. When theirs are gone, they have to come to us for the rare earths. *evil laugh*
 
2012-06-20 02:25:21 PM  
Insert joke about China and quality control standards here.
 
2012-06-20 02:41:55 PM  
Not true subtard. I can get an iPad for $5.62 just by clicking on the banner ad above.
 
2012-06-20 02:53:00 PM  
Wasn't there a story in the last few months or so about a large deposit of rare Earth metals being found in the US? I think the deposit was supposed to rival China's supplies...

/Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
2012-06-20 02:57:09 PM  

Lord Dimwit: The United States has huge reserves of rare earths, but we don't mine them - we let China mine theirs. When theirs are gone, they have to come to us for the rare earths. *evil laugh*


Honest Bender: Wasn't there a story in the last few months or so about a large deposit of rare Earth metals being found in the US? I think the deposit was supposed to rival China's supplies...

/Anyone know what I'm talking about?


U.S. Rare Earths, Inc. Announces Substantial Results of Surface Sampling In Idaho and Montana

However it is writen by a public relations person so it might be s
 
2012-06-20 03:14:18 PM  

omgrtfa: Lord Dimwit: The United States has huge reserves of rare earths, but we don't mine them - we let China mine theirs. When theirs are gone, they have to come to us for the rare earths. *evil laugh*

Honest Bender: Wasn't there a story in the last few months or so about a large deposit of rare Earth metals being found in the US? I think the deposit was supposed to rival China's supplies...

/Anyone know what I'm talking about?

U.S. Rare Earths, Inc. Announces Substantial Results of Surface Sampling In Idaho and Montana

However it is writen by a public relations person so it might be s




Same thing with oil. My hope is we actually have a conspiracy plan for the long-term benefit of America. I want to believe both parties understand it's better right now to let the middle-east use up their oil as quickly as possible before we tap into the bulk of ours.

/Why is everything I see vaguely reddish-tinted?
 
2012-06-20 03:15:43 PM  
Our county solid waste transfer stations all have specific areas for electronic waste. I am seeing the old CRT type TVs are becoming rare and more flat screens are being discarded.

/take that Florida haterz.
 
2012-06-20 03:15:48 PM  

Honest Bender: Wasn't there a story in the last few months or so about a large deposit of rare Earth metals being found in the US? I think the deposit was supposed to rival China's supplies...

/Anyone know what I'm talking about?


Maybe if you Americans would work for 50 cents a day in dangerous mines we would mine it. But no, you want ridiculous things like a living wage.
 
2012-06-20 03:16:20 PM  
When REEs skyrocket in price, look at ticker symbol MCP. During the hysteria last year, it was as high as $64.

Trading in the low 20's now, but it's up 8% today.
 
2012-06-20 03:23:33 PM  

Honest Bender: Wasn't there a story in the last few months or so about a large deposit of rare Earth metals being found in the US? I think the deposit was supposed to rival China's supplies...

/Anyone know what I'm talking about?


U.S. and Australia. Where mining of rare earth minerals does not take place in part for environmental reasons, so mining takes place almost exclusively in China, and in a much more destructive fashion than it would in the west.

/Yeah, sounds about right.
 
2012-06-20 03:58:57 PM  
And this is one reason that planned obsolescence is a terrible, stupid idea: at some point, the resources could run out, stranding everyone with half-assed fourth generation versions of technology, instead of the tenth gen good stuff.that would have improved life in amazing ways.
 
2012-06-20 04:18:19 PM  
It's okay, I've heard there's a great way to help pay for it with your old gadgets!

honeybrownblues.com
 
2012-06-20 04:49:21 PM  

limeyfellow: Honest Bender: Wasn't there a story in the last few months or so about a large deposit of rare Earth metals being found in the US? I think the deposit was supposed to rival China's supplies...

/Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Maybe if you Americans would work for 50 cents a day in dangerous mines we would mine it. But no, you want ridiculous things like a living wage.


Poor-paid, dangerous, and unpleasant work is why we need illegal aliens here, or so the people who exploit them tell us.
 
2012-06-20 04:50:32 PM  

Mr. Potatoass: Golf clap, subby. Splendidly subtle.


Re-read the headline and opened the article after reading your comment. Suddendly, it clicks. MIND = BLOWN!new aaaaaaaaah window

/subby, you magnificent bastard!
 
2012-06-20 05:06:25 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Honest Bender: Wasn't there a story in the last few months or so about a large deposit of rare Earth metals being found in the US? I think the deposit was supposed to rival China's supplies...

/Anyone know what I'm talking about?

U.S. and Australia. Where mining of rare earth minerals does not take place in part for environmental reasons, so mining takes place almost exclusively in China, and in a much more destructive fashion than it would in the west.

/Yeah, sounds about right.


Molycorp recently reopened the California mine. It had been shuttered for cost and environmental reasons (hard to beat China's wage rates and dump it wherever policy), but they are now producing again.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/rare-earth-mining-rises-aga i n/

"Meanwhile, Molycorp is ramping up production at Mountain Pass, and looks set to produce 40,000 tons annually by the end of 2013. As the mine begins cranking out neodymium, lanthanum and other materials by the ton, the strategic vulnerability that's caused so much concern should be eased.

On May 10 Molycorp announced larger-than-expected profits for the year's first business quarter. All of the the material Molycorp expects to produce in 2012 has already been spoken for, said Molycorp CEO Mark Smith. "Our customers need our product," he said. "We're selling everything that we're producing before it's even out of the ground."
 
2012-06-20 06:54:09 PM  

Jubeebee: Landfill mining for discarded electronics will probably become a thing at some point.


Landfill mining for all kinds of reclaimable materials will become a thing, most likely within my lifetime.

Anybody got any landfill property they wanna sell? Difficulty: no EPA brownfields.
 
2012-06-20 07:25:31 PM  
You know, how about making stuff that's easy to upgrade, or doesn't get deliberately obsoleted by the manufacturer?

I'm not going to go into upgrading storage here. I'm talking about iOS 6. And I'm not even saying that Apple should roll out iOS6 for the 1st gen iPad for free. Charge people $25-30 for an upgrade if you like and make a profit.

Apple like to talk about how green they are, but they're letting the 1st gen iPad die, 2 years after it was released. Someone finds a security hole in iOS5, and well, you'd better hope you don't hit a website with it, because Apple aren't promising patches (and they stopped patching the iPhone 3G after a while). This isn't like Macs where you get around 5 years of updates, or Windows where you get 10. And even with the Mac, you can get a Linux distro and get some use out of it.

This is why I still prefer control over the software on my PC. My Thinkpad will probably work with the next 2 versions of Windows, if I know Lenovo. Then I'll have 10 years of support. I'll probably give this machine to my daughter in a few years and buy something more powerful, but she'll be able to do school and college stuff for 5 years after.
 
2012-06-20 08:51:51 PM  
Oh no, the world is onto our plans for world domination!

1. Build up the strongest military in the world.
2. Deplete every other country's resources before our own.
3. ?
4. Profit!
 
2012-06-20 09:33:49 PM  
oi48.tinypic.com

It's going to be a bumpy few decades.
 
2012-06-20 11:48:35 PM  
And Molycorp stock is up over 8% today. Thank you Chiners
 
2012-06-21 12:19:54 AM  
It'll be a cold day in Hell before I pay more than $30 for any electronic device that does not have a user replaceable battery.
 
2012-06-21 04:04:27 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: And this is one reason that planned obsolescence is a terrible, stupid idea: at some point, the resources could run out, stranding everyone with half-assed fourth generation versions of technology, instead of the tenth gen good stuff.that would have improved life in amazing ways.


Capitalism and perverse incentives go together like steak and potatoes!
 
2012-06-21 11:49:46 AM  
Already have one. Suck it, Apple.
 
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