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(Sun Sentinel)   "My client's possession of child pornography is just sexual roleplay, nothing criminal," claims defense attorney   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 26
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2012-06-20 10:00:54 AM  
Yeah, he's playing the role of the perv, and rather well.
 
2012-06-20 10:01:14 AM  
Possession of child pornography is criminal regardless of purpose. Hang him.
 
2012-06-20 10:01:42 AM  
Do they really think this is going to hold up in court??

Well, it is Florida..
 
2012-06-20 10:02:57 AM  
Actually, the article says "computer pornography and child exploitation."
 
2012-06-20 10:03:11 AM  
He's going to get a lot of time to role play in prison. I wonder what his role will be?
 
2012-06-20 10:04:06 AM  
It won't hold up in court unless he confirmed his "assumption".

/Sexual Age play is one of the few kinks I just can't wrap my head around.
 
2012-06-20 10:05:00 AM  
Am I the only one that thinks, "Man, that is some mighty fine lawyering there??!!"
/Yes, I will take a window seat
//I hear Hell is nice this time of year
 
2012-06-20 10:05:02 AM  
This guy a principal or a priest?
 
2012-06-20 10:06:02 AM  

pag1107: Possession of child pornography is criminal regardless of purpose. Hang him.


i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-20 10:07:05 AM  
Oblig...

i2.kym-cdn.com

i0.kym-cdn.com

i251.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-20 10:10:58 AM  

pag1107: Possession of child pornography is criminal regardless of purpose. Hang him.


what if he zeroed my hard drive and no longer has an interest in child porn? or what's done is done
i'm willing to turn myself in
 
2012-06-20 10:18:17 AM  

Exception Collection: It won't hold up in court unless he confirmed his "assumption".

/Sexual Age play is one of the few kinks I just can't wrap my head around.


agreed. I do not understand how folks can get off dressing up in diapers and bottles and what not.
It's highly doubtful that this guy confirmed anything, or even thought about the age play.
 
2012-06-20 10:18:29 AM  
Yeah, there's no child porn involved here, otherwise the prosecutors would be trumpeting it to high heaven. Instead they seem to have tacked on some other 'computer porn' charge along with the obvious attempt to get jiggy with a 15 year old who was really a cop in an attempt to conflate the issue to stupid jurors. Since I doubt he'd have suddenly gone all "Oh, whoa, you're actually 15? Well, nevermind then." I have trouble working up any sympathy for his roleplaying-interruptus, but it doesn't sound like they actually have anything else to nail him with they just want a freebie from emotionally swayed jurors to pad their resume with one more dangerous CHILD PREDATOR.
 
2012-06-20 10:21:49 AM  
What happened to "research purposes"? It worked for Pete Townsend.
 
2012-06-20 10:22:41 AM  
a/s/l?
 
2012-06-20 10:29:51 AM  
FTFA: "It's a fantasy world," Berkman said of the Internet and particularly Craigslist. "Everyone lies about everything. No one tells the truth about their age or their height or their appearance, and so you never really know who you're talking to, and that was the case here."

So, you knew that there are no 15 year old girls on the internet interested in your fat ass?
 
2012-06-20 10:31:14 AM  
He said "I thought I wasn't really talking to a 15 year old girl..."
Well, he wasn't.
 
2012-06-20 10:45:59 AM  

tamsnod27: Am I the only one that thinks, "Man, that is some mighty fine lawyering there??!!"
/Yes, I will take a window seat
//I hear Hell is nice this time of year


The attorney has the obligation to find whatever legal gap is left in the prosecution to insert reasonable doubt. This seems par for the course. Effective defense can help establish precedent, which can drive evolution in law... a process that must occur along with technology.
 
2012-06-20 10:59:30 AM  
On July 26, Ramos pretended to be a 15-year-old girl and responded to a Craigslist ad that Berkman had placed to solicit casual sex.

Doesn't the fact that you are supposed to be 18 to use that part of the CL site complicate the issue?

Maybe not, but that's why I am not a law talking guy.
 
2012-06-20 11:15:08 AM  
sportscracklepop.com
 
2012-06-20 01:35:29 PM  
Yes, I am just SO ABSOLUTELY SURE the Innertubes are just loaded to the gills with hot little teenies, trolling for old farts to f with; yes I'm certain that it happens all the time.
 
2012-06-20 02:36:49 PM  

FTA: On July 26, Ramos pretended to be a 15-year-old girl and responded to an email Berkman had sent about a Craigslist ad which Ramos had placed to solicit casual sex. The two communicated via emails, text messages and instant messages, in which Berkman detailed explicit sex acts he wanted to perform with the female, according to Ramos' arrest report.



Not trying to defend the guy or anything, but just the above right there sounds extremely iffy to me. I mean IF the original ad was specifying he wanted someone underage, fine, but if somehow I doubt that was the case.

This seems to be a desperate loser trying to get laid, then he gets the full court press from a cop, who seems to have been far from passive in this.

Sure, I doubt the perv would have said no if it HAD been an actual 15 yo...but I'm doubting he was looking in the first place (ie: Not a predator, just a loser) but rather he was looking for ANY girl who would let him stick it in.
 
2012-06-20 02:37:21 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Exception Collection: It won't hold up in court unless he confirmed his "assumption".

/Sexual Age play is one of the few kinks I just can't wrap my head around.

agreed. I do not understand how folks can get off dressing up in diapers and bottles and what not.
It's highly doubtful that this guy confirmed anything, or even thought about the age play.


That doesn't creep me out as much as the porn stars in pigtails and dressed in oversized 12 year old clothing. Half of them are incest fantasy, the other half are creepy voyeur flicks, both make me wonder about the size of the target audience since they're so prevalent. The baby stuff is so off-kilter and almost entirely revolves around the man being the baby, that it seems more like a weird fetishized escapism, as well as a fetishization of motherhood.

/Maybe it's creepier from a female perspective?
 
2012-06-20 03:11:35 PM  

tcaptain: FTA: On July 26, Ramos pretended to be a 15-year-old girl and responded to an email Berkman had sent about a Craigslist ad which Ramos had placed to solicit casual sex. The two communicated via emails, text messages and instant messages, in which Berkman detailed explicit sex acts he wanted to perform with the female, according to Ramos' arrest report.

Not trying to defend the guy or anything, but just the above right there sounds extremely iffy to me. I mean IF the original ad was specifying he wanted someone underage, fine, but if somehow I doubt that was the case.

This seems to be a desperate loser trying to get laid, then he gets the full court press from a cop, who seems to have been far from passive in this.

Sure, I doubt the perv would have said no if it HAD been an actual 15 yo...but I'm doubting he was looking in the first place (ie: Not a predator, just a loser) but rather he was looking for ANY girl who would let him stick it in.


I just wonder what would happen if during the talks with the cop, just every now and then he'd slip in a "Look, I know you're not really a 15 year old girl and this is just fantasy". Because, he WASN'T talking to a 15 year old girl.
 
2012-06-21 02:29:18 AM  

stonicus: He said "I thought I wasn't really talking to a 15 year old girl..."
Well, he wasn't.


This is the first thing I thought, too. How do you prove that someone thought he was talking to someone underage?

Plus, you have to be over 18 to even go into that area of Craigslist, so wouldn't he have reason to believe she was over 18 anyway?
 
2012-06-21 02:49:31 AM  
I'm getting tired of law enforcement being compelled to waste its time on penny-ante crap. Go whole-hog after the kiddy torturers and baby diddlers. Cut this loser loose with warning to practice his role-playing on females of a slightly older age bracket.
 
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