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2012-06-21 09:39:18 AM

VibroCount: She's a frowny okay looking girl whose lack of external emotion fits in with the imaginations of the teens who loved the books and want to relate to the on-screen Bella.


I think that's the formula, yes, but this has ominous implications for society. It takes empathy for someone to relate to a fictional character with depth, but this is done all the time. Was, anyway. Point is, this isn't much to ask, because empathy is an essential social skill.

That Bella HAS to be vapid and one-dimensional (as some put it, an "empty container to put themselves in") for her fans to relate to her implies they're basically psychopaths.
 
2012-06-21 09:55:09 AM
She's got Gillian Anderson eyes. And thats about it.
 
2012-06-21 12:27:00 PM

Babwa Wawa: Aside from Panic Room, I haven't seen a single one of her movies.


This. At first I thought she was a boy in that movie.
 
2012-06-21 12:43:37 PM

dragonchild: VibroCount: She's a frowny okay looking girl whose lack of external emotion fits in with the imaginations of the teens who loved the books and want to relate to the on-screen Bella.

I think that's the formula, yes, but this has ominous implications for society. It takes empathy for someone to relate to a fictional character with depth, but this is done all the time. Was, anyway. Point is, this isn't much to ask, because empathy is an essential social skill.

That Bella HAS to be vapid and one-dimensional (as some put it, an "empty container to put themselves in") for her fans to relate to her implies they're basically psychopaths.


Psychopaths? Perhaps. And it might be simpler than that. For the first time, Mormonism is entering the mainstream. Throughout my life, I've known a few Mormons, and for the most part they were not just intelligent but also highly educated. Those I've known have a social grace which made them very good friends (with me). I fell in love with one when I was a senior in high school. Recently, the aspects of their beliefs has become a strong part in politics, but before that it was entering popular science fiction. The outcome of the recent "Battlestar Galactica" series was a solid representation of Mormon faith.

The girl I loved was as torn as all "good" girls are about sex. Still a virgin, she had normal sexual desires. But being pure and sealed in the temple for eternity to another of Mormon faith was strong. Bella wants Edward, he wants her, but the sex (literary vampirism is always about sex) requires her to lose not just her virginity, but her humanity. The use of the vampires give virgin girls a shield against the scary sex act. Think of the basic ideals of Mormon life: to be sealed for eternity so you can have lots of sex to give birth to lots of spirits thus achieving godhood over your own planet. The more wives that a man can get pregnant at the same time, the more the natural order of human sexuality is achieved (in other words, how many children can one man father in his lifetime as opposed to how many children can one woman give birth to in her life? Poligamy is seen as natural and desirable). She is bitten by James but Edward restores her virginity. Fundamentalist Mormons are occasionally jailed for statutory rape, taking child brides who are just about to start having periods... again, having as many children as possible is the basic step to the ultimate goal of fundamentalist Mormon faith.

So Bella is the Mormon solution to young women who have sexual desires that they wish to contain. Huge commitment needed before lust can take over to fulfill a godly desire. The emo vapidness is an easy urn to fill... that the actress is sort of pretty without being gorgeous goes with the way teen girls see themselves (desirable without stopping traffic)... frowny is the way most teens are, male or female (they feel they've been left a screwed-up world that they need to fix with none of the power or abilities to fix it).

Or... psychopaths all.

As an atheist, it's easy to view all religion-based actions as psychopathic.
 
2012-06-21 01:27:33 PM

VibroCount: Psychopaths? Perhaps. And it might be simpler than that. For the first time, Mormonism is entering the mainstream.


Mormonism is a facet of the plot. It is NOT a facet of the characterization, because there is none.

I'm not making an argument about religion at all. Yes the religious undertones are overwhelming, and as you say they're dressed up as vampirism, but try this on for size. . . take away Edward's vampirism (which takes your Mormon metaphor out of the equation) and Bella's sex drive and you wind up with nothing. These characters have no ambitions, no dreams beyond this little confined world of drama. Nor is there any emotional development -- even after they tie the knot, they're still whining at each other.

I don't necessarily disagree with the point you're making, but I don't see what it has to do with these characters being vapid.
 
2012-06-21 01:34:11 PM

Wellon Dowd: Screw that! She's not even that good looking, by Hollywood standards.

Here's an attractive actress.

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What is it with you & that chick, man.
She's good looking & all but is she worth the restraining order?
 
2012-06-21 02:15:44 PM

555-FILK: Babwa Wawa: Aside from Panic Room, I haven't seen a single one of her movies.

This. At first I thought she was a boy in that movie.


We all did.
 
2012-06-21 05:06:27 PM
There is no justice in this world.
 
2012-06-21 07:36:36 PM

lohphat: Towall: I think she's purdy and will watch at least ten minutes of any movie she's in.

That's as long as you take to reach for a Kleenex?

/impressed


That's start to finish.
 
2012-06-21 10:16:13 PM

Towall: lohphat: Towall: I think she's purdy and will watch at least ten minutes of any movie she's in.

That's as long as you take to reach for a Kleenex?

/impressed

That's start to finish.


And cigarette?
 
2012-06-22 06:51:52 PM

Mad_Radhu: I'm a little shocked that Jennifer Lawrence isn't higher on the list.There's not that many actresses that have successfully carried a $400 million grossing movie. I'd think that she's going to eclipse Stewart pretty quickly once her agent really gets going finding her prime roles.

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She'll probably be on there next year.

But she's on my list and that's really all that matters.
 
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