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(New York Daily News)   When the TSA pats you down, they're saving America. When you pat down the TSA, it's "violence"   (nydailynews.com) divider line 51
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2012-06-19 11:17:18 PM
8 votes:
The TSA is a huge threat to this country. What it stands for and what it accomplishes is in direct opposition to freedom and liberty.
2012-06-20 03:12:19 AM
4 votes:
The TSA are sustaining the state of fear in the US.
Having a continual state of fear is the goal of the enemies of the US; the terrorists.
Therefore the TSA are aiding the enemies of the US.
The TSA is a treasonous organization.
Q.E.D.
2012-06-19 11:17:15 PM
4 votes:
Funny too how these videos are found by the TSA, but when the passenger is wronged or the TSA is sticking their hands down a toddler's diapers, the video is usually lost.
2012-06-20 12:30:55 AM
3 votes:
I think next election time I'm going to run for president. My only platform at all will be the end of the TSA. No foreign policy plan, no stance on Social Security and each debate I'll just sit back and eat a sandwhich, just pledge to end the TSA, maybe extend it to easier to read captchas on website registrations. Not even run as a Democrat or Republican, because they are both, apparently, pro TSA (Yes, the Republicans put them in power, but the Democrats haven't done anything), maybe the Pirate Ninja Party.

And then enjoy my land slide victory.
2012-06-19 11:22:21 PM
3 votes:
foo monkey: FitzShivering: If you read the article, it's even better that the lady being charged here used to be a TSA agent.

Yeah, buried in the article, the two TSA gate rapists knew each other. I hate the TSA, but this sounds like a personal issue.


You don't think being groped by a total stranger ISN'T a personal issue? It is for me.
Skr
2012-06-19 11:15:44 PM
3 votes:
The irony is she was patting down one of the true terrorists.

TSA - Terror Sustaining Agency
2012-06-20 12:38:21 AM
2 votes:
Maechyll: Problem is that having implemented Security Theatre, if we get rid of it now some knucklehead WILL get on a plane with a bomb. Or two.

As far as the TSA goes--now we're permafarked.


having security is fine. but security can be a near-invisible element. there is automation galore to detect whatever one wants to find. the hands-on groping is not necessary or welcomed. it's an over-the-top slap in the face courtesy of a government that does the Third Reich proud.

/Heil Homeland
2012-06-20 12:32:55 AM
2 votes:
Ha! She's a former TSA agent herself. Kill yourself, you hypocritical coont.
2012-06-20 12:04:56 AM
2 votes:
The TSA fails surprise tests at abysmal rates. Their screens have been completely ineffective in stopping any actual terror attempts. All available data suggests that their methods DO NOT WORK and provide zero additional safety.

The TSA is no more effective than the security we had prior to 9/11. They are much, much more expensive, and they accomplish absolutely nothing.

There is no data that anyone here can provide that shows that the TSA is a good use of taxpayer money. Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

There are better ways to secure airports, and the TSA is a complete boondoggle, period.
2012-06-19 11:48:14 PM
2 votes:
I was all for someone starting a collection for her legal defense, then I learned she was a TSA agent. Fark the biatch. FARK THEM ALL!!!
2012-06-19 11:40:07 PM
2 votes:
clowncar on fire:
Why not direct your anger toward the idiots that make these searches a necessity. You could always stay home and let these people focus their energies toward the real culprits.


multimedia.billybrew.com
2012-06-19 11:38:24 PM
2 votes:
clowncar on fire: what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Sometimes authority is used in ways I disagree with and I think my ideas are better.
2012-06-19 11:25:51 PM
2 votes:
Problem is that having implemented Security Theatre, if we get rid of it now some knucklehead WILL get on a plane with a bomb. Or two.

As far as the TSA goes--now we're permafarked.
2012-06-19 11:25:29 PM
2 votes:
Did not read and do not care about the article. But I will take this opportunity to say that the tsa is an ineffectual, leviathan waste of time and money. You all owe it to yourselves to read what the former head of that organization says about it. In short, he agrees with me.

Oh, and I have left my cell phone AND iPod on for the entire duration of at least 100 commercial flights over the last decade. Just close your eyes and don't look at the waiters on the flight - the vast majority of them don't give two shiates as long a you are discrete.
2012-06-19 11:16:02 PM
2 votes:
FitzShivering: If you read the article, it's even better that the lady being charged here used to be a TSA agent.

Yeah, buried in the article, the two TSA gate rapists knew each other. I hate the TSA, but this sounds like a personal issue.
2012-06-20 09:38:43 PM
1 votes:
Dear TSA:

Turnabout is fair play.
2012-06-20 11:03:48 AM
1 votes:
My last long trip I took by car, only to avoid TSA. The US law enforcement and their empowerment is simply out of control. The airlines who allow these mockeries of justice and freedom to come into their airports will not get my business. It's important enough to me to flout them at every possible opportunity. If the airports have few enough customers, the airlines will tell TSA "GTFO".

Fark TSA. Fark PATRIOT. If you're even contemplating whether this is a free country anymore, you already know the answer... you just don't want to accept it.
2012-06-20 08:59:53 AM
1 votes:
StingerJ: I flew this morning, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. I remain baffled at how indignant people get at TSA. This is not hard.

Is the 100 mL or less rule stupid? Yes.
Are there softer targets for terrorists? Yes.
Are the body scanners a scam? Yes.
Is it difficult to get through security if you follow the simple, well defined rules? No.

/boy are my arms tired
//that's what she said


Yes, it's very easy to get though if you just roll over on your back and piss yourself. The point is the intrusive scanning and body gropes are in no way warranted or justified.
2012-06-20 08:46:25 AM
1 votes:
I'm fifty years old and I've never flown anywhere. Always wanted to, but If I have to put up with this kind of shiat, I guess I'll just drive.
2012-06-20 08:32:12 AM
1 votes:
incrdbil: ok, TSA sucks, blah blah blah, p but let us remember

Before 9-11, airport security was somewhat of a joke.


It still is. Terrorists don't use the same attack vector twice.


How do we strike the right balance of security vs intrusion.

We get rid of the TSA, and keep the armored cockpit doors.

It's pretty obvious we have to search people an baggae before allowing them on a plane.

Actually, we really don't. A bomb sniffing dog would be all you need. Only a bomb can make an aircraft break apart in flight, the cockpit door is bullet proof, locked, and there is an entire airplane full of angry Americans who are just waiting for an excuse to be a hero and kick a terrorists ass should they try anything. We already know this to be true because people have gotten past the TSA, lost their shiat on the plane, and rushed the cockpit door. They never get anywhere before people restrain them.

So, what is acceptable in terms of intrusion of your personal comfort zone to help increase the safety of every person flying in a thin skinned metal plane thousands of feet in the air that is very vulnerable to weapons and explosives that are rather easily concealed?

Planes are not vulnerable to gunfire. A bullet hole in a pressurized cabin is not going to suck you out or compromise the planes structural integrity. Planes are actually quite durable. Ask Aloha airlines. They had a metal fatigue problem, and the entire farking roof blew off the plane. Still landed safely.
milesobrien.com

The only thing we have to worry about is a bomb. The TSA has never found a bomb. Ever. Not even during their surprise evaluations where a bomb is shoved in their face to identify.

Get rid of the TSA. The naked scanners, the pat downs and give me back my metal detectors. Then have a few bomb sniffing dogs around smelling the luggage. Everyone would be safer then ever before.
2012-06-20 04:50:01 AM
1 votes:
GoldSpider: I tried having a conversation last week with someone about the futility and waste of the TSA, and how terrorists could simply go for a softer target. Her response was that "terrorists here go after planes, they just don't go after other things here".

A shame, she was young and rather cute. Hopeless, I suppose.


When I was just a lad, my grandad gave me the best advice I've ever gotten. He said, "Son, there are only two ways to argue with a woman, and neither one works."
2012-06-20 03:29:31 AM
1 votes:
The TSA are "The Terrorists'"(tm) wet dream.
Americans giving up their basic basic civil rights in order to feel safe.
It should not have worked in "The Home Of The Brave" but it did.

"America, home of The Pussies with a well funded corporate military."

/Proud
2012-06-20 03:09:48 AM
1 votes:
Yes, Subby, but that's because Violence and Justice are the same action engaged by two different groups.

In any society, you can boil down the population to two basic groups; those with power, and those without. Now that power can come in very many forms. It can be financial, religious, military, racial... it doesn't matter.

When someone with power takes action against someone without power, society considers this 'justice', because those with power can easily use that power to protect themselves using the rules of the society they control.

When someone without power takes action against someone with power, society considers this 'violence', because it is an act outside of the controlling power.

For instance, if you record four Latin Kings pushing someone around, and they catch you filming and rough you up and seize your camera, they have committed a violent act against you, and though they wield power, it is not the recognized power of their society.

If you record four police officers pushing someone around, and they see you and then rough you up and take your camera, they have committed a 'just' act, even if public opinion is basically against it. It is a just act because it very likely they will receive no punishment for their actions, and they would be more protected from the full repercussions of their act.

Similarly the difference between someone who steals a television from your house, and someone who steals billions in pensions from millions of people. Even if the latter person is to be punished, it is never in equal scale due to the power of the perpetrator.

There are of course those occasional actions that are so egregious that they transcend this definition. These are the actions that make national news, and sometimes public opinion can . But the vast majority of these transactions happen and not a wood is said.
2012-06-20 01:23:39 AM
1 votes:
Will somebody please put a finger up my ass?
2012-06-20 01:12:24 AM
1 votes:
When cops put gang bangers in jail cells, it's called law enforcement. When I capture hoodlums from the street and lock them up in my punishment dungeon, it's called "kidnapping".

farking pigs.
2012-06-20 01:01:56 AM
1 votes:
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Ha! She's a former TSA agent herself. Kill yourself, you hypocritical coont.

Now, let's look at when she started and when she quit. My dad joined the TSA when it was first created. He was unemployed, they were hiring, it was a paycheck. But at that point, they were the retarded entity that they are now. Yes he had to pat down people, no he didn't enjoy it. About the time that they were telling parents that little Jimmy could bring GI Joe with him on the play, but Joe had to leave his guns at home is about the time that my dad got a job in his actual career field.

If this woman was a TSA agent when it first began but left as all the stupid started (limits on how much liquid you could bring onto a flight, cavity searches, x-ray machines...), then she really isn't a hypocritial coont, just someone who didn't want to be a part of this stupidity. If not, then I agree with you.

Honestly, I have to wonder about the TSA applicants who are applying for the job right now, knowing about the nonsense, like strip searching toddlers and have no qualms about doing just that.
2012-06-20 12:44:29 AM
1 votes:
Corvus: What would help is people supporting a different better solution, which do exist.

We could start with dissolving the security theater that is the TSA and routing their funding to more worthwhile public projects like infrastructure.
2012-06-20 12:44:15 AM
1 votes:
Skarekrough: I haven't flown since around 2007 or so. I dread the fact that I might find myself in a situation where I have to.

What do I tell my kids? It's okay that THEY touch you like that because it's all about security and they can be trusted?

Trusted how? Like you might trust perhaps a Catholic priest?

It's all a sham. If you were seriously concerned about security you'd be arming random passengers.


Seriously? Sounds like voting for Obama has turned you into a wreck.

I've flown on flights where the flight attendants were reduced to sniveling wrecks (Hydraulic failure), blown tire on take off (military flight), engine fire (another military flight), near miss of the runway due to cross winds on a Pokemon Jet (Kansai Airport, Japan), overnight stay in Denmark due to landing gear issues, a jet that required an external boost to get the engines started, and then after 3 tries getting stuck in holding pattern waiting for Clinton to land. Diverted due to Hurricanes, leaving one flight earlier than the ill fated flight leaving Lexington Ky a few years ago, witnessing the Italian stunt team fail on a arrow through the heart stunt and killing60+ people back in Ramstein AB during flugtag airshow and you're worried that someone might accidently excite you by accidently brushing up against your nipple?

Having expirienced numerous reasons not to fly, being felt up by the TSA was not one of them
2012-06-20 12:36:51 AM
1 votes:
clowncar on fire: iaazathot: The TSA fails surprise tests at abysmal rates. Their screens have been completely ineffective in stopping any actual terror attempts. All available data suggests that their methods DO NOT WORK and provide zero additional safety.

The TSA is no more effective than the security we had prior to 9/11. They are much, much more expensive, and they accomplish absolutely nothing.

There is no data that anyone here can provide that shows that the TSA is a good use of taxpayer money. Nobody, liberal or conservative should support the TSA.

There are better ways to secure airports, and the TSA is a complete boondoggle, period.

Best security would be to go to the airport, strip in a booth and wear paper gear and proceed to the other side. Somewhere along the way you are exposed to a "random'" screening, handed "travel clothing" (t-shirt, pants). Your property is shipped electronically secluded below decks or on another aircraft where you claim it once you clear the passenger area of the airport. Return your travel gear upon reciept of your property.

Probably easier to just follow some basic requirements and move on with a smile.


Or, we could do what the Israeli's do, you know, the people who actually have a record of dealing with jihadi terrorism for the entire history of their country?
Nope, much smarter to waste a ton of money on half-witted ass-clowns that fail 80% of their surprise inspection tests.

You know what is funny, their rate of failure pretty much guarantees that eventually something bad is going to happen. In fact, it is likely that a group could stage something very similar to the 9/11 hijackings and get away with it. All the TSA does is inconvenience everyone and condition US citizens to invasions of privacy by the government.

Grab your ankles, citizen. I wish it were hyperbole, but the data doesn't really give room for too many other conclusions.
2012-06-20 12:24:16 AM
1 votes:
I haven't flown since around 2007 or so. I dread the fact that I might find myself in a situation where I have to.

What do I tell my kids? It's okay that THEY touch you like that because it's all about security and they can be trusted?

Trusted how? Like you might trust perhaps a Catholic priest?

It's all a sham. If you were seriously concerned about security you'd be arming random passengers.
2012-06-19 11:58:30 PM
1 votes:
Too Pretty For Prison: I can't believe I'm going to say this, but this attention whore should be prosecuted. Sure, it sucks to be treated like cattle in an airport, but that's the way it is. If I was the TSA supervisor that got groped, I'd sue the biatch.

Why can't you believe it? They obviously have you trained like a good little monkey to not only accept whatever horse manure they decide to push your face in, but also to call a real live American heroine a "b*tch".
2012-06-19 11:52:23 PM
1 votes:
Corvus: Nem Wan: clowncar on fire: what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Sometimes authority is used in ways I disagree with and I think my ideas are better.

Sure. That happens to everyone and if we got rid of rules because some people didn't like them it would be anarchy because there are no laws or rules that everyone likes. You can not like a rule and still be respectful or not jump to hyperbole that you are "being raped" etc. You can calmly voice your disagreement to the rule and be open to debate about it.


When the rule is UFIA, it is rape honey buns. Now soread dem lovely buttcheecks and let Uncle Sam put his Liberty Digit in your Freedom Hole.
2012-06-19 11:52:07 PM
1 votes:
clowncar on fire: JohnBigBootay: Did not read and do not care about the article. But I will take this opportunity to say that the tsa is an ineffectual, leviathan waste of time and money. You all owe it to yourselves to read what the former head of that organization says about it. In short, he agrees with me.

Oh, and I have left my cell phone AND iPod on for the entire duration of at least 100 commercial flights over the last decade. Just close your eyes and don't look at the waiters on the flight - the vast majority of them don't give two shiates as long a you are discrete.

What about the "present" head of the TSA? What does he have to say? "Previous" employees, especially the "released" ones, never have anything nice to say about their previous employer.


http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/story/2012-04-26/Former-TSA-chief-s ays-airport-security-is-broken/54562740/1

read about it yourself. Oh, and he wasn't fired. He quit. And surely you don't expect the current head of the organization -who was appointed to the position - to say 'we suck' while he has the job, do you?
2012-06-19 11:44:37 PM
1 votes:
fluffy2097 : It's not sexual assault. It's freedom.
Aye. The plutocrat scum who run the nation are more threatened by her than any terrorist.

9beers: Charge the biatch with sexual assault and ban her from flying.
You can get on up off of your knees any time, bootlicker. You ain't impressing anyone.
2012-06-19 11:44:15 PM
1 votes:
So what if I don't touch the TSA agent, but as they grope my private areas I slowly grind into their hand. Is THAT acceptable?
2012-06-19 11:43:24 PM
1 votes:
I tried having a conversation last week with someone about the futility and waste of the TSA, and how terrorists could simply go for a softer target. Her response was that "terrorists here go after planes, they just don't go after other things here".

A shame, she was young and rather cute. Hopeless, I suppose.
2012-06-19 11:42:24 PM
1 votes:
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but this attention whore should be prosecuted. Sure, it sucks to be treated like cattle in an airport, but that's the way it is. If I was the TSA supervisor that got groped, I'd sue the biatch.
2012-06-19 11:39:30 PM
1 votes:
clowncar on fire: rebelyell2006: clowncar on fire: willyshorts: They say America represents freedom, but American leaders nowadays don't practice what they preach.

Its been like 5+ years since "the Man" has infringed upon my freedoms by stopping me for going 54 in a 35 zone.. what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!

Because the TSA agents at Atlanta rub my inside thigh on my right leg every time I go through security, stopping millimeters before their hands would brush up into my my genitals? Getting a ticket is one thing, standing there while a complete stranger touches in inappropriate ways is something completely different altogether.

RU a hottie or a nottie? Seems thay have more restraint of their sexual urges than you do as they were able to stop within millimeters (1000 millimeters to a meter) and not give it a second thought.

Why not direct your anger toward the idiots that make these searches a necessity. You could always stay home and let these people focus their energies toward the real culprits.

Nevr have been lucky enough to get felt up enough to become indignant about the pat-downs- starting to feel ugly.


I have a mustache and a beer gut. You tell me if I am a "hottie". And I should be able to travel without some TSA creeps touching my leg.
2012-06-19 11:37:57 PM
1 votes:
fluffy2097: rebelyell2006: Personally, I am surprised that they would name sexual assault victims. To shame, NY Daily News.

It's not sexual assault. It's freedom.


It's freedom assault.
2012-06-19 11:37:24 PM
1 votes:
If a cop kills you with a service weapon, it's "justified use of force," or "suicide by cop," depending on the circumstances. If you kill him, it's "murder."

/this slope is getting kind of slippery, don'tcha think?
2012-06-19 11:35:29 PM
1 votes:
clowncar on fire: TSA is here to provide a law enforcement function- being a dick with no authority to conduct a "pat d own' not so much. Surprised the collective intelligence couldn't figure that one out.

Still searching for someone who actually travels to come forth with the same complaints....


Airport security was annoying, stupid, and completely ineffective long before 2001. Since PATRIOT, there's just more of it and it's become stupider and more annoying, the effectiveness level has not in any way changed.

//There, now you've heard from someone who travels.
//Albeit I don't have issues with the pat-downs themselves, only with several bloody hours of my time being wasted to get to the terminal for a 30-minute flight.
//Basically I'm too polite to pull something like this in response, but I can sympathize with those who aren't.
2012-06-19 11:31:18 PM
1 votes:
Weird when your doctor gives you a prostate check it's "For your health" but when you give him one it's "rape"!
2012-06-19 11:30:19 PM
1 votes:
JohnBigBootay: Did not read and do not care about the article. But I will take this opportunity to say that the tsa is an ineffectual, leviathan waste of time and money. You all owe it to yourselves to read what the former head of that organization says about it. In short, he agrees with me.

Oh, and I have left my cell phone AND iPod on for the entire duration of at least 100 commercial flights over the last decade. Just close your eyes and don't look at the waiters on the flight - the vast majority of them don't give two shiates as long a you are discrete.


What about the "present" head of the TSA? What does he have to say? "Previous" employees, especially the "released" ones, never have anything nice to say about their previous employer.
2012-06-19 11:28:54 PM
1 votes:
clowncar on fire: willyshorts: They say America represents freedom, but American leaders nowadays don't practice what they preach.

Its been like 5+ years since "the Man" has infringed upon my freedoms by stopping me for going 54 in a 35 zone.. what the heck is you people's problem with authority?!


Because the TSA agents at Atlanta rub my inside thigh on my right leg every time I go through security, stopping millimeters before their hands would brush up into my my genitals? Getting a ticket is one thing, standing there while a complete stranger touches in inappropriate ways is something completely different altogether.
2012-06-19 11:27:56 PM
1 votes:
foo monkey: FitzShivering: If you read the article, it's even better that the lady being charged here used to be a TSA agent.

Yeah, buried in the article, the two TSA gate rapists knew each other. I hate the TSA, but this sounds like a personal issue.


Yo dawg, I heard you like getting groped by the TSA...
2012-06-19 11:26:50 PM
1 votes:
Why did they use her full name? I thought that was reserved for presidential assassins? Or is the media trying to portray her as a villain for challenging the TSA?
2012-06-19 11:22:10 PM
1 votes:
Your own medicine. Have some.
2012-06-19 11:19:45 PM
1 votes:
9beers: Charge the biatch with sexual assault and ban her from flying.

But if we charge TSA agents with sex crimes, then who will provide freedom gropes? And isn't the last part a bit pointless, since they just sit around at airports and do not actually fly?
2012-06-19 11:18:21 PM
1 votes:
2wolves: 9beers: Charge the biatch with sexual assault and ban her from flying.

I hear some TSA agents need to fly to different airports.


She could always get a job that would afford her some dignity and self-respect.
Like working a deep fryer at a fast-food restaurant.
2012-06-19 09:44:27 PM
1 votes:
I was trying to do an in Soviet America joke but I farked it up.

/I suck
2012-06-19 09:32:36 PM
1 votes:
I'm feeling safer.
 
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