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(NPR)   When transporting a revolutionary new trachea built up from stem cells for a time-critical transplant, spend a couple of extra bucks so you don't have to rely on ultra-budget airline easyJet   (npr.org) divider line 77
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2012-06-19 06:07:35 PM  
Make advances like this and the IDIOT REPUBLICANS want to cut Medicare. What is the sense of doing research, if the Republicans don't want to help anybody but themselves. Remember their insurance, which we pay for out of our taxes, probably would have covered this for any Republican Congressman or Senator, but not the average Joe Blow on the street and working to make ends meet.
 
2012-06-19 06:12:58 PM  

billii: Make advances like this and the IDIOT REPUBLICANS want to cut Medicare. What is the sense of doing research, if the Republicans don't want to help anybody but themselves. Remember their insurance, which we pay for out of our taxes, probably would have covered this for any Republican Congressman or Senator, but not the average Joe Blow on the street and working to make ends meet.


Ugh that is a depressing thought. We are paying for their health insurance so they can turn around and deny us health insurance. what in the hell?
 
2012-06-19 06:18:08 PM  

billii: Make advances like this and the IDIOT REPUBLICANS want to cut Medicare. What is the sense of doing research, if the Republicans don't want to help anybody but themselves. Remember their insurance, which we pay for out of our taxes, probably would have covered this for any Republican Congressman or Senator, but not the average Joe Blow on the street and working to make ends meet.


You're missing the point - the Republicans need these advances to extend their lifetimes and retain power. That's exactly why they're hoping to snuff out the poor, after all, because the poor tend to vote Democrat and they can't have that. The rich always vote to keep themselves alive, and the poor just don't get a vote - that's the world they want to live in, and they're working hard to get there.

Joe Blow isn't important. A Republican Congressman or Senator is far more important than you or I, and so should get everything they want. Joe Blow can, well, blow - he's just a consumer unit, easily replaced.
 
2012-06-19 09:48:19 PM  
The important thing to remember is that the people that are getting paid $8.35 an hour are also going to rescue the economy with the GOP's tax plan. They are truly Amercian Heroses!
 
2012-06-19 10:37:28 PM  
I thought stem cell research was evil because of the baby Jesus.
 
2012-06-19 10:44:44 PM  
forget how it gets paid for for a second. this is INSANELY AWESOME technology.
little or no rejection. building parts out of scaffolds and stems sells. dont even need a donor.
this is CRAZY AWESOME news.

jaws, eyes sockets, what's next? fingers, thumbs? noses, ears, ...
ear drums? nerve cells, spinal cords???

brave new world
 
2012-06-19 10:57:35 PM  
The airline spokesman said a check of company files found no such request. Birchall says the records should be there. The airline told reporters it would "rule out" the possibility the airline misplaced a file.

See! The airline said so after a un-verified check of company records! And they would never lie to protect some mid-level dumbass who forgot to forward an approval form. So suck it, science!

/I am aware that the woman did get the transplant
 
2012-06-20 12:01:31 AM  
And they wasted it on a foreigner?
 
2012-06-20 12:05:28 AM  
When transporting a revolutionary new trachea built up from stem cells for a time-critical transplant, spend a couple of extra bucks so you don't have to rely on ultra-budget airline easyJet

- Deep Throats, by Jack Handey
 
2012-06-20 12:07:40 AM  

404 page not found: And they wasted it on a foreigner?


The other guys who turned this political are assholes, but you had to be the one that made it racist. Bye.
 
2012-06-20 12:11:17 AM  

404 page not found: And they wasted it on a foreigner?


That's as cold as ice, buddy.
 
2012-06-20 12:13:03 AM  

Is it me or do any of you previous Farkers fail to realize this all took place in Europe, not the U.S.? This isn't even a political thing.


Amazing that flying in the U.K. seems to be on par with airline security in the U.S.

 
2012-06-20 12:13:40 AM  

bubo_sibiricus: 404 page not found: And they wasted it on a foreigner?

The other guys who turned this political are assholes, but you had to be the one that made it racist. Bye.


members.rennlist.com
edge.ebaumsworld.com
 
2012-06-20 12:13:47 AM  
I'm just going to ignore the whole airport security thing and say that goddamn, this is an awesome development, and one that might directly affect me some day. Farking hell, I love science.

bubo_sibiricus: The other guys who turned this political are assholes, but you had to be the one that made it racist. Bye.


You do know that he was joking, right?
 
2012-06-20 12:14:15 AM  

namatad: forget how it gets paid for for a second. this is INSANELY AWESOME technology.
little or no rejection. building parts out of scaffolds and stems sells. dont even need a donor.
this is CRAZY AWESOME news.

jaws, eyes sockets, what's next? fingers, thumbs? noses, ears, ...
ear drums? nerve cells, spinal cords???

brave new world


Seriously. I have been reading up on some of this stuff and it is quite fascinating what they can do now and the possibilities for the future. Thinking about printing kidneys kind of blew my mind...
 
2012-06-20 12:15:32 AM  
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Approves.
 
2012-06-20 12:18:40 AM  

otto the bull: [img96.imageshack.us image 320x240]
Approves.


But her name wasn't Abby...something...
 
2012-06-20 12:20:26 AM  
$21k on the spot? that's a line of credit. yikes.

/does you accept teh Diners Club?
 
2012-06-20 12:26:23 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: I'm just going to ignore the whole airport security thing and say that goddamn, this is an awesome development, and one that might directly affect me some day. Farking hell, I love science.


Fluorescent Testicle: I'm just going to ignore the whole airport security thing and say that goddamn, this is an awesome development, and one that might directly affect me some day. Farking hell, I love science.


Fluorescent Testicle: I'm just going to ignore the whole airport security thing and say that goddamn, this is an awesome development, and one that might directly affect me some day. Farking hell, I love science.

 
2012-06-20 12:26:30 AM  
Amazing medical technology.
 
2012-06-20 12:30:18 AM  

skinink: Is it me or do any of you previous Farkers fail to realize this all took place in Europe, not the U.S.? This isn't even a political thing.
Amazing that flying in the U.K. seems to be on par with airline security in the U.S.


Yup but we shouldn't let that stifle the derp.

/I was hoping for a discussion about some cool medical breakthroughs regarding organ generation but instead I got the politics tab.
//I know I know welcome to fark
 
2012-06-20 12:33:51 AM  
Stem cells are the future of medical science.
 
2012-06-20 12:39:43 AM  

billii: Make advances like this and the IDIOT REPUBLICANS want to cut Medicare. What is the sense of doing research, if the Republicans don't want to help anybody but themselves. Remember their insurance, which we pay for out of our taxes, probably would have covered this for any Republican Congressman or Senator, but not the average Joe Blow on the street and working to make ends meet.


Along with "Smart" and "Funny", we need a "Dumbass" tag.
 
2012-06-20 12:40:17 AM  
So... How do they normally transport time sensitive body parts around Europe? Or do they not have a pan-european system for such a lending library.

I would have tried to get an airline PR department to agree to free flights in exchange for being able to make claims about service. "When Bristol University needs to get life saving..."

Wait, that doesn't work. You don't really want to fly with random body parts, do you?
 
2012-06-20 12:45:34 AM  

Igor Jakovsky:

Yup but we shouldn't let that stifle the derp.

/I was hoping for a discussion about some cool medical breakthroughs regarding organ generation but instead I got the politics tab.
//I know I know welcome to fark



Took the words right out of my mouth...

\more room for beer, I guess
 
2012-06-20 12:46:37 AM  
Rodeodoc: Along with "Smart" and "Funny", we need a "Dumbass" tag.

I already have one.

billii : (ignored: Political Crossost (#7171240))

// ohh the days when there were only a few thousand people on fark, it made it a lot easier to keep track of the dimwits.
 
2012-06-20 12:46:39 AM  

namatad: forget how it gets paid for for a second. this is INSANELY AWESOME technology.
little or no rejection. building parts out of scaffolds and stems sells. dont even need a donor.
this is CRAZY AWESOME news.

jaws, eyes sockets, what's next? fingers, thumbs? noses, ears, ...
ear drums? nerve cells, spinal cords???

brave new world


This. Holy crap.
 
Skr
2012-06-20 12:47:08 AM  
With cybernetics and organ replacement advances, I really hope I live long enough to benefit from things like this. I know I'll die eventually, but it would be cool to live a bit of science fiction before it happens.
 
2012-06-20 12:47:32 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The airline spokesman said a check of company files found no such request. Birchall says the records should be there. The airline told reporters it would "rule out" the possibility the airline misplaced a file.

See! The airline said so after a un-verified check of company records! And they would never lie to protect some mid-level dumbass who forgot to forward an approval form. So suck it, science!

/I am aware that the woman did get the transplant


Yeah, I'm thinking the article was way, way too easy on Easyjet. There's no way the transplant team did all the preparation they said they did without taking note of whom they were talking to. So where's the paragraph that says "we sought comment from (insert name here), the person the doctors spoke to, but..."?
 
2012-06-20 12:52:17 AM  

skinink: Is it me or do any of you previous Farkers fail to realize this all took place in Europe, not the U.S.? This isn't even a political thing.
Amazing that flying in the U.K. seems to be on par with airline security in the U.S.


It's not that amazing when you look at what we've demanded of foreign countries in terms of emulating our "security theater" since 9/11. Some foreign airports have separate security just for flights to the U.S. just to avoid the nonsense we require (in fact, our demands of foreign airports are worse than our domestic airports), but we've so entrenched many of the standards that other countries use them even for domestic flights.

/ No airport or foreign airline can really afford to tell the U.S. to go Fark itself, since we simply won't let you fly here.
 
2012-06-20 12:53:02 AM  
How did this guy forget to bring his permission slip with him?
 
2012-06-20 12:53:29 AM  
i.usatoday.net

The hollandaise sauce was a nice touch.
 
2012-06-20 12:58:54 AM  

studebaker hoch: [i.usatoday.net image 490x360]

The hollandaise sauce was a nice touch.


Okay, I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought it vaguely looked edible.
 
2012-06-20 12:59:35 AM  

wildcardjack: So... How do they normally transport time sensitive body parts around Europe? Or do they not have a pan-european system for such a lending library.

I would have tried to get an airline PR department to agree to free flights in exchange for being able to make claims about service. "When Bristol University needs to get life saving..."

Wait, that doesn't work. You don't really want to fly with random body parts, do you?


But you already do. Years ago, I had a job to help pay for school working as a driver for a same day delivery service. Every Monday, regular as clockwork, I had a package come in via the luggage section of Delta, Eastern (yeah, I'm that old), etc. that was headed to the CDC labeled "Human tissue packed in wet ice". I picked it up at Delta Dash, Eastern Sprint, etc. and drove it from the Atlanta airport up to the CDC.

/I won't even mention how often said package was...damp. I really hoped it was condensation and not leakage.
 
2012-06-20 12:59:51 AM  
Holy crap. This article gave me so much hope. I have a very rare lung disease and I may need a transplant sooner than later. I already have a friend that's in my support group that is on the transplant waiting list as we speak. It's very unfortunate that the university had to go to such lengths to get the organ to the patient, but I'm beside myself reading about the advancements. I know the wheels turn slow here in America, but all I can do is hope and wait.
 
2012-06-20 01:03:36 AM  
New trachea?

www.evilmilk.com
 
2012-06-20 01:17:54 AM  
I completely believe this story. Once, we had a patient on our ward who we suspected had a rare and very recently discovered neurologic condition. There was one laboratory at the time who tested for this condition, and the gentleman who ran said lab had recently moved to Spain, taking his lab with him. So, we did what we had to do to diagnose our patient: we performed a spinal tap and sent her cerebrospinal fluid to Spain. Trouble was, the fluid hadn't arrived a couple days later, and we couldn't figure out why. We were nervous because we had started empirically treating her to prevent her from deteriorating further, but we feared we might never have confirmation of her diagnosis.

With a little investigation, we found the problem. Some fool in the lab declared a value of $100 on the CSF, and thanks to the value of the package, it got held up in Customs. Mercifully, it eventually got where it was going, the diagnosis was confirmed, and our patient appropriately treated.

Bad things happen when highly sophisticated work is dependent on the less-than-sophisticated.
 
2012-06-20 01:28:00 AM  

namatad: forget how it gets paid for for a second. this is INSANELY AWESOME technology.
little or no rejection. building parts out of scaffolds and stems sells. dont even need a donor.
this is CRAZY AWESOME news.

jaws, eyes sockets, what's next? fingers, thumbs? noses, ears, ...
ear drums? nerve cells, spinal cords???

brave new world


One word: Bacon.

Endless, vat-grown bacon. Maybe one day every household will have its own mini bioreactor churning out a renewable supply of tasty tasty pig-friendly, PETA-approved bacon.

/I have a dream
 
2012-06-20 01:32:18 AM  

Veritas: Endless, vat-grown bacon.


If only endless vat grown beer was possible.
 
2012-06-20 02:07:06 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Veritas: Endless, vat-grown bacon.

If only endless vat grown beer was possible.


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

( ̄^ ̄)ゞ
 
2012-06-20 02:15:31 AM  

Skr: I know I'll die eventually, but it would be cool to live a bit of science fiction before it happens.


technabob.com
www.instructables.com

blogs.oreilly.com

4.bp.blogspot.com

www.neublack.com

engineeringworks.tamu.edu

images.wikia.com

We got some of them here already ;)
 
2012-06-20 02:47:55 AM  
Someday people will look back on this past century as the dark age of organ medicine.

"Grandpa, are you telling me they used to cut organs out of dead people and put them into sick people?? Gross! Why would anybody even try that?? Why didn't they just use their backup organs from the organ bank?"

"Well, honey, we didn't have backup organs when I was younger. We had to wait in a long line of people and wait for someone else to die so we could live."
 
2012-06-20 02:50:41 AM  

Veritas: namatad: forget how it gets paid for for a second. this is INSANELY AWESOME technology.
little or no rejection. building parts out of scaffolds and stems sells. dont even need a donor.
this is CRAZY AWESOME news.

jaws, eyes sockets, what's next? fingers, thumbs? noses, ears, ...
ear drums? nerve cells, spinal cords???

brave new world

One word: Bacon.

Endless, vat-grown bacon. Maybe one day every household will have its own mini bioreactor churning out a renewable supply of tasty tasty pig-friendly, PETA-approved bacon.

/I have a dream


If bacon is available everywhere, it will become less special.

/like soda
 
2012-06-20 02:52:07 AM  

Rodeodoc: billii: Make advances like this and the IDIOT REPUBLICANS want to cut Medicare. What is the sense of doing research, if the Republicans don't want to help anybody but themselves. Remember their insurance, which we pay for out of our taxes, probably would have covered this for any Republican Congressman or Senator, but not the average Joe Blow on the street and working to make ends meet.

Along with "Smart" and "Funny", we need a "Dumbass" tag.


For comments like yours?
/that is my understanding
 
2012-06-20 02:53:04 AM  

CrispFlows: Skr: I know I'll die eventually, but it would be cool to live a bit of science fiction before it happens.

[technabob.com image 520x502]
[www.instructables.com image 560x420]

[blogs.oreilly.com image 461x232]

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 516x390]

[www.neublack.com image 500x498]

[engineeringworks.tamu.edu image 541x383]

[images.wikia.com image 640x342]

We got some of them here already ;)


Robotic arms piss me off.

farkin' all kinds of animals can regrow their whole damn arm. Why the hell is it that humans can't? Bigger crops? fark that noise. I'll eat smaller corns and apples to get regeneration. fark, I'll eat anything to get regeneration.


And lobsters? Those farkers just get bigger and healthier each year. They DON'T DIE. It's not in their DNA to just get old. All they get is more. Till some farker eats 'em but quid pro quo. Don't get caught.

Seriously, where's my healing factor, science. Get off your duff and stop studying shiat like eggs. You can't even make up your mind if they're good or bad? fark you, go study regeneration. You're off the eggs!
 
2012-06-20 03:01:00 AM  

Veritas: namatad: forget how it gets paid for for a second. this is INSANELY AWESOME technology.
little or no rejection. building parts out of scaffolds and stems sells. dont even need a donor.
this is CRAZY AWESOME news.

jaws, eyes sockets, what's next? fingers, thumbs? noses, ears, ...
ear drums? nerve cells, spinal cords???

brave new world

One word: Bacon.

Endless, vat-grown bacon. Maybe one day every household will have its own mini bioreactor churning out a renewable supply of tasty tasty pig-friendly, PETA-approved bacon.

/I have a dream


Bacon isn't nearly as good if you know that a pig didn't have to be killed for it.
 
2012-06-20 03:06:22 AM  

robohobo: Bacon isn't nearly as good if you know that a pig didn't have to be killed for it.


Well, you can try just maiming a pig for its bacon but that also makes the vegans get all...funny.
 
2012-06-20 05:01:01 AM  

Mugato: I thought stem cell research was evil because of the baby Jesus.


The evangelicals are against research with stem cells from aborted fetuses. This was done with her own stem cells. Not sure how important/neccessary previous stem cell research using fetal stem cells was for this breakthrough.

It would be nice to have a logical discussion with an actual expert in the field about the past and/or continuing need for the use of fetal stem cells in research, It seems to me that the only way this stem cell medicine was ever going to work would be using with one's own stem cells. It's not like you are gonna comb through a database of aborted fetuses to find a genetic match for each person needing a stem cell procedure. The end result would always be using one's own stem cells.
 
2012-06-20 05:13:48 AM  

Skr: I know I'll die eventually, but it would be cool to live a bit of science fiction before it happens.


Everything around you used to be science-fiction, so you're already living it.

/no, you can't have a flying car
//not yours
 
2012-06-20 05:14:24 AM  

crispyone: Mugato: I thought stem cell research was evil because of the baby Jesus.

The evangelicals are against research with stem cells from aborted fetuses. This was done with her own stem cells. Not sure how important/neccessary previous stem cell research using fetal stem cells was for this breakthrough.

It would be nice to have a logical discussion with an actual expert in the field about the past and/or continuing need for the use of fetal stem cells in research, It seems to me that the only way this stem cell medicine was ever going to work would be using with one's own stem cells. It's not like you are gonna comb through a database of aborted fetuses to find a genetic match for each person needing a stem cell procedure. The end result would always be using one's own stem cells.


As I understand it, the reason fetal stem cells are needed and used is because there's no need for genetic matching. A stem cell is a cell that isn't a person yet, so tissue grown from it can be designed with any genetic markers you need. (I'm sure I am totally wrong about the specifics, however) The cells are undifferentiated, hence, they won't be rejected by anyone's immune system. Also, once the stem cell line is established, there's no need to "comb through" a database, as you say. The cell line is reproducable (which is not a word, but it's very late) on its own, so it can be used without augmentation.
 
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