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(The Advocate)   Kansas trying to re institute Jim Crow laws. Because 'religion'   (advocate.com ) divider line
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2012-06-19 11:38:31 PM  
If your "religion" compels/empowers you to be an insufferable dick towards certain people, then you don't deserve to have the "freedom" to practice it.

How about I start up my own religion? I'll call it "Punchism". It involves going around punching fundamentalist christians in the face where ever and whenever I see one. Men, women, old ladies, babies. Doesn't matter. if they're fundies, then they must be punched.

If you raise a fuss, I'll just say "don't blame me. My Supreme God, Foopadoopazoopy-zap, commandeth me to do this".
 
2012-06-19 11:39:26 PM  
As a proud resident of the state of Missouri, than you Kansas fro being even more bass ackwards than we are.
 
2012-06-19 11:41:18 PM  
www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net

Gay discrimination in a nutshell.

/Fark off, Kansas
 
2012-06-19 11:43:04 PM  

kg2095: Maybe, but surely she should only worry about her own adherence to the rules of her religion. What other people do is none of her business


I take it you have never been around many evangelicals then?
Or the counter example atheist on Fark who claim that anyone who believes in an invisilbe sky wizard is either an idiot or mentally ill.
 
2012-06-20 12:02:35 AM  
People voluntarily live in Kansas? They say "Hey, this place is great. The tornadoes, the bat sh*t crazy religious nuts, our feet-washing Governor. I know there are 49 better states, but let's stay here." They say this? If I were gay and in Kansas I would be like "Exit, stage left!" and run for the border.
 
2012-06-20 12:27:05 AM  

leftteffticle: exick:
I would say yes, but they try to cover their asses on that one by saying "Any person found by a court of competent jurisdiction to have abused the protection of this act by making a fraudulent claim may be enjoined from filing further claims under this act without leave of court."

Which just means that your "religion" has to be based on a poorly-sourced book that's at least a few hundred years old and not just invented in your mind. And that also means that the state of Kansas is going to be sued into oblivion by people whose religions they find to be fraudulent.

Hmm, good point... but then again, I'm an atheist, so my beef with Christians is totally legit and their lifestyle of bigotry is totally against my "religion" (or rather lack there of) and I don't see why I should have to support it.


They actually took care of this for you, it only has to be an "earnestly held personal belief."
 
2012-06-20 12:27:53 AM  

Walker: People voluntarily live in Kansas?


It's great nature, relatively open and empty. It's quiet. Not everyone wants the jostling throngs of unwashed masses like NY or LA.

It's not like KC doesn't have a homosexual population. And they stay because hey, they also like quiet and nature and open spaces.

/also tight brown ones
 
2012-06-20 12:37:00 AM  

spongeboob: kg2095: Maybe, but surely she should only worry about her own adherence to the rules of her religion. What other people do is none of her business

I take it you have never been around many evangelicals then?
Or the counter example atheist on Fark who claim that anyone who believes in an invisilbe sky wizard is either an idiot or mentally ill.


Well, with those Evangelicals it's hard to come to any other conclusion.
 
2012-06-20 12:37:17 AM  
I was massively confused about why the Kansas legislature went back in session just to pass the same bs they did months ago.

Then I clicked through and saw the article was from March.

I'm all too aware that Kansas exists in a dateless pseudo-past that never really existed, but no need to repost every stupid thing done here three months later, just as a reminder.
 
2012-06-20 12:40:53 AM  

leftteffticle: Ooooooh, does this mean that I can move to Kansas, start a business, hire all Christians, find out they're Christians, and then fire them all because their lifestyle goes against my religious beliefs? That would be cool, right?


Nope. Only Christians will have special rights to discriminate.
 
2012-06-20 01:17:01 AM  
You're born gay. You have a choice if you want to follow religious teachings. Who should the law support?
 
2012-06-20 01:20:33 AM  
The only way to make Missouri look progressive is to hang it up next to Kansas. What the fark happened?
 
2012-06-20 01:21:47 AM  
Yet another issue that Fundamentalist Christians and Muslim Extremists see eye-to-eye on. Brilliant.
 
2012-06-20 01:23:32 AM  
This is basically the flip side of what's being voted on in Lincoln, NE this year. The city passed an anti-discrimination bill which would protect LGBT people from housing and job discrimination. People had a problem with this, and forced it to be put on the ballot.
 
2012-06-20 01:35:27 AM  
Ima hatin' GOP
 
2012-06-20 01:36:15 AM  
had to go to ImDb to read and re-read the plot synopsis for To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar

/"it's a misprint!"
 
2012-06-20 01:56:11 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Does this include women who wear pants instead of skirts?


Even men shouldn't wear pants. You never saw ancient Hebrews wearing pants. Pants are an Iranian invention. Why do you support Iran?
 
2012-06-20 01:57:08 AM  
I'm ok with this as long as Kansas bans electricity and music.
 
2012-06-20 01:57:13 AM  

EmmaLou: This is basically the flip side of what's being voted on in Lincoln, NE this year. The city passed an anti-discrimination bill which would protect LGBT people from housing and job discrimination. People had a problem with this, and forced it to be put on the ballot.


and it's been the law in backwards counciltucky for over a decade
 
2012-06-20 01:58:51 AM  

spongeboob: Or the counter example atheist on Fark who claim that anyone who believes in an invisilbe sky wizard is either an idiot or mentally ill.


I would go with, "possessed by demons" myself.
 
2012-06-20 02:19:48 AM  
And "flyover country" proves yet another stereotype to be... not so stereotypical.
/goddammitsonfarkingmuch
//SO glad I live on the coast
 
2012-06-20 02:33:19 AM  
And these farks get 2 senators.
 
2012-06-20 02:37:17 AM  

spongeboob: kg2095: Maybe, but surely she should only worry about her own adherence to the rules of her religion. What other people do is none of her business

I take it you have never been around many evangelicals then?
Or the counter example atheist on Fark who claim that anyone who believes in an invisilbe sky wizard is either an idiot or mentally ill.


Yes because they're exactly the same. Every atheist on here is petitioning congress to force people to give up religion.


Go fark yourself.
 
2012-06-20 02:50:56 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: spongeboob: kg2095: Maybe, but surely she should only worry about her own adherence to the rules of her religion. What other people do is none of her business

I take it you have never been around many evangelicals then?
Or the counter example atheist on Fark who claim that anyone who believes in an invisilbe sky wizard is either an idiot or mentally ill.

Yes because they're exactly the same. Every atheist on here is petitioning congress to force people to give up religion.


Go fark yourself.


spongeboob is full of both sides are bad.
 
2012-06-20 03:01:07 AM  
My religion requires the government to provide free pot to everyone. Anything else is a violation of my religious liberty.
 
2012-06-20 03:32:42 AM  

Quasar: "I don't think an ordinance should trump other people's religious rights," said Rep. Jan Pauls, a Democrat on the Judiciary Committee that heard testimony about the bill. During a forum earlier this year, Pauls gave an example to explain why she backs the bill, saying an employer should be allowed to fire a "cross dresser."

That sounds reasonable. Why should my religious rights be trampled by your sheer audacity to exist as you are?


I present to you...Kansan Democrats.
 
2012-06-20 03:53:42 AM  
Dear LGBT Kansans,

Leave.

In other States you are welcome to lead full, productive and enriching lives, in liberty, while pursuing happiness. But before you leave, take as much money out of Kansas as you can. Go to public schools, then to a State college on a State grant or scholarship. Get a part time job at a public agency. Then take all the education, training and experience Kansas paid for and leave. You'll be happy you did.
 
2012-06-20 03:56:08 AM  
If you don't want a Bar Mitzvah,
DON'T HAVE A BAR MITZVAH.
But don't tell me I can't have one because it conflicts with YOUR religious beliefs.
Or that I can't have an abortion because of your religious beliefs.
Or that I can't same gender marry because of your fricking religious beliefs.
Or that I should be fired because of your Goddamned religios beliefs.
 
2012-06-20 04:01:41 AM  

Notabunny: Dear LGBT Kansans,

Leave.

 
2012-06-20 05:36:35 AM  
what's wrong with Kansas?
 
2012-06-20 06:55:49 AM  

tooeasy: what's wrong with Kansas?


Dust in the wind.
 
2012-06-20 06:59:24 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: tooeasy: what's wrong with Kansas?

Dust in the wind.


Proximity to Oklahoma.
 
2012-06-20 07:05:54 AM  
It is none of the government's business if someone discriminates or not.
 
2012-06-20 07:07:28 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Cato: To say you have you be forced to associate with anyone you do not wish to - and that certainly includes business relationships - is unconstitutional

So laws banning hiring discrimination are unconstitutional?


If they aren't for a federally recognized protected class, yes. Hopefully shiat like this goes up to the supreme court and gets changed but as it stands this seems legal to me.
 
2012-06-20 07:08:21 AM  
These people are not "conservatives"... They're radical regressives.

I hope Kansas gets biatch slapped by the Courts on this.
 
2012-06-20 08:01:34 AM  
Something tells me I'm going to get a LOT of mileage out of this one in the near future.

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2012-06-20 08:10:34 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: spongeboob: kg2095: Maybe, but surely she should only worry about her own adherence to the rules of her religion. What other people do is none of her business

I take it you have never been around many evangelicals then?
Or the counter example atheist on Fark who claim that anyone who believes in an invisilbe sky wizard is either an idiot or mentally ill.

Yes because they're exactly the same. Every atheist on here is petitioning congress to force people to give up religion.


Go fark yourself.


He didn't say every atheist on Fark. He said the counter example atheist. I am sure there are many atheists on Fark who just come here to have fun, maybe kill some downtime at work, that kind of thing. Then there are some who jump at every opportunity to mock anyone who has faith and paints them all as intolerant assholes who can do nothing but hate. Kind of a pot / kettle thing. Maybe you should take a step back.

/Christian
//not evangelical
///I leave the judging to God and just try to love and respect everyone, you know, like JESUS said to do
 
2012-06-20 08:11:23 AM  

gearsprocket: It is none of the government's business if someone discriminates or not.


It's none of the government's "business" if somebody wants to smash your head in and take your wallet.
And yet, as a society, we have decided that government should get involved - and our body of law, and the courts who enforce them, agree.
Same deal with discrimination. Deal with it, or move to the third world.
 
2012-06-20 08:17:49 AM  

Notabunny: Dear LGBT Kansans,

Leave.

In other States you are welcome to lead full, productive and enriching lives, in liberty, while pursuing happiness. But before you leave, take as much money out of Kansas as you can. Go to public schools, then to a State college on a State grant or scholarship. Get a part time job at a public agency. Then take all the education, training and experience Kansas paid for and leave. You'll be happy you did.


Not gay, not from Kansas, but I think this applies to some people's reasoning for remaining in Kansas or other such places that are filled with intolerant people and discriminatory laws.

thediscipleproject.net
 
2012-06-20 08:21:54 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: This country wants to fail. There's no other reason to behave this way. It's become so preoccupied with what legal channels it has to fark itself over that it completely forgot that it shouldn't be trying to fark itself over.


What do you expect when people follow a doctrine that says 'destroy yourselves and you'll get untold riches?' You get a bunch of sad, dejected people willing to throw away their lives for absolutely nothing and be happy about it. And if you try to tell them that they're being stupid, suddenly you're the bad guy because you're just trying to get their imaginary riches.

America is teaching the world a very valuable lesson: don't let your populace get stupid, and don't let them be able to be extorted to believe in some religion. Otherwise, your robust economy falls through the floor by forced retardation.
 
2012-06-20 08:24:17 AM  

Notabunny: Dear LGBT Kansans,

Leave.

In other States you are welcome to lead full, productive and enriching lives, in liberty, while pursuing happiness. But before you leave, take as much money out of Kansas as you can. Go to public schools, then to a State college on a State grant or scholarship. Get a part time job at a public agency. Then take all the education, training and experience Kansas paid for and leave. You'll be happy you did.


Add women to this as well. It seems one of the best ways to stop this foolishness is to let the Jesus Freaks sink in their own shiatholes. Just cut off the money and leave them to rot.
 
2012-06-20 08:24:57 AM  
The land of the free!
and afraid of the gays!
 
2012-06-20 08:27:32 AM  

bgddy24601: Notabunny: Dear LGBT Kansans,

Leave.

In other States you are welcome to lead full, productive and enriching lives, in liberty, while pursuing happiness. But before you leave, take as much money out of Kansas as you can. Go to public schools, then to a State college on a State grant or scholarship. Get a part time job at a public agency. Then take all the education, training and experience Kansas paid for and leave. You'll be happy you did.

Not gay, not from Kansas, but I think this applies to some people's reasoning for remaining in Kansas or other such places that are filled with intolerant people and discriminatory laws.

[thediscipleproject.net image 640x565]


The problem is, the assholes who are doing sh*t like this are getting the same message, but from their god. Now, much as I love Captain America, he doesn't have quite the convincing power of believing the creator of the universe is telling you to stand your ground and keep dem queers from kissin', 'cept for da pretty lady-folk in those movies I watch when the missus is out of town.
 
2012-06-20 08:49:25 AM  

Aarontology: I'm going to start pretending to be religious so I can get exemptions from the law.


To be fair, Conservative Christians have been doing this for decades.
 
2012-06-20 09:09:54 AM  
Has anyone noticed that the 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th ammendments don't prohibit banning people from voting based on sexual orientation.
 
2012-06-20 09:18:43 AM  

Quasar: "I don't think an ordinance should trump other people's religious rights," said Rep. Jan Pauls, a Democrat on the Judiciary Committee that heard testimony about the bill. During a forum earlier this year, Pauls gave an example to explain why she backs the bill, saying an employer should be allowed to fire a "cross dresser."


a Democrat on the Judiciary Committee
a DEMOCRAT on the Judiciary Committee
a DEMOCRAT on the JUDICIARY Committee

Holy jumping shiatballs... What the dark IS wrong with Kansas?
 
2012-06-20 09:21:54 AM  
where's that graphic about states and google searches for "gay AND pron" ?
 
2012-06-20 09:33:49 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-20 09:35:54 AM  
I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.

I twist the truth, I rule the world, my crown is called deceit
I am the emperor of lies, you grovel at my feet
I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain
And still you play the sycophant and revel in my pain
And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate
I am the politician, and I decide your fate

I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight
I speak to great heroic days, of victory and might
I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave
I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave
Your bones will build my palaces, your eyes will stud my crown
For I am Mars, the god of war, and I will cut you down.
 
2012-06-20 09:38:41 AM  
Heeeey, so since the law doesn't specify "gay/lesbian" but just in general religious belief, did they just legalize Shira law? I mean he does say right out:

"The question is personal belief as far as religion," she said. "Should that be trumped by forcing people to then support a lifestyle that they don't support due to their religion?"
 
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