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		Ann Taylor refuses to let a blind woman bring her guide dog into the store. The company doesn't see anything wrong with that decision (consumerist.com)		214
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houndoggie		2012-06-19 02:41:48 PM

yahoo!

service animal thread!!!!

hubiestubert		2012-06-19 02:48:02 PM

In fairness, dogs are color blind, and they were just worried about her getting bad color coordination. It was a service, really.

MaudlinMutantMollusk		2012-06-19 02:54:28 PM

Just once I'd like to be a witness to a situation like this

/my dressing down of ignorant store employees would be epic
//I know way too many blind people

Petit_Merdeux		2012-06-19 03:04:25 PM

Ann Taylor is such a biatch!

Bathia_Mapes		2012-06-19 03:07:08 PM

Seeing as how guide dogs were allowed in business before the ADA mandate, it boggles the mind that anyone can still be so ignorant.

Personally I would have stood my ground and refused to leave the store because leaving the store, IMHO, gives the store employees the impression that they were right about not allowing service animals.

ManateeGag		2012-06-19 03:21:53 PM

they should be glad, she can't see how ugly the clothes are.

MaudlinMutantMollusk		2012-06-19 03:22:52 PM

ManateeGag: they should be glad, she can't see how ugly the clothes are.

It does go a long way toward explaining why she's a regular customer

Wangiss		2012-06-19 03:35:50 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just once I'd like to be a witness to a situation like this

/my dressing down of ignorant store employees would be epic
//I know way too many blind people

go on...

Splish		2012-06-19 03:42:51 PM

The part of the story that really strained credibility for me was the husband demanding that his wife be allowed to shop.

meow said the dog		2012-06-19 03:43:12 PM

I wonder how many Fark.comettes were shopping there on this day and did nothing to provide the help to this woman.

Apos		2012-06-19 03:45:07 PM

Appalling ignorance of the AWDA is,thankfully,a rarity in retail.

scottydoesntknow		2012-06-19 03:52:03 PM

Farkin sue 'em!

This is an instant win, cash in pocket settlement and she didn't take it? She's acting very Unamerican. The only way they will learn is if it hurts their wallets, otherwise they'll try to turn away every person with a dog. Some may be able to argue it, but others (like this woman) will walk away and do nothing besides blog about it and complain to the consumerist.

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 03:52:21 PM

I have a disability, and you WILL do whatever it takes to accommodate me (including spending your own time and money)! Otherwise, I get all of your money!

Yay entitlement!

houndoggie		2012-06-19 03:58:11 PM

Guidette Frankentits		2012-06-19 03:59:34 PM

Not sure if legitimate or Consumerist bullcrap.

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 04:02:26 PM

houndoggie: Silly Jesus: I have a disability, and you WILL do whatever it takes to accommodate me (including spending your own time and money)! Otherwise, I get all of your money!

Yay entitlement!

I agree, we should just throw them all in the river.

o_O

meow said the dog		2012-06-19 04:07:13 PM

Apos: Appalling ignorance of the AWDA is,thankfully,a rarity in retail.

The Attention Whore Disability Act? See she IS a Farker!

Guidette Frankentits: Not sure if legitimate or Consumerist bullcrap.

Me either. I mean it seems like the start of the joke "The full figured blind woman walks into the Ann Taylor..."

Wangiss		2012-06-19 04:09:37 PM

Apos		2012-06-19 04:15:23 PM

meow said the dog: Apos: Appalling ignorance of the AWDA is,thankfully,a rarity in retail.

The Attention Whore Disability Act? See she IS a Farker!

Hah!

what_now		2012-06-19 04:17:19 PM

Silly Jesus: I have a disability, and you WILL do whatever it takes to accommodate me (including spending your own time and money)! Otherwise, I get all of your money!

Yay entitlement!

She's not requesting the store go peanut free, she's asking to bring her seeing eye dog in. I guarnetee that dog is better behaved than half the customers in that store.

/worked at an Ann Taylor for three months
//the only retail I've ever done
///would go back to waitressing, house painting, grocery store cashier, camp counselor or house cleaning before EVER doing retail again
\cool slashies, sis.

Wangiss		2012-06-19 04:19:51 PM

Apos: meow said the dog: Apos: Appalling ignorance of the AWDA is,thankfully,a rarity in retail.

The Attention Whore Disability Act? See she IS a Farker!

Hah!

Read the MSTG blog.

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 04:22:36 PM

Wangiss: Silly Jesus: I have a disability, and you WILL do whatever it takes to accommodate me (including spending your own time and money)! Otherwise, I get all of your money!

Yay entitlement!

"An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation."

I was using it in a different context...from WIKI

Narcissism - In clinical psychology and psychiatry, an unrealistic, exaggerated, or rigidly held sense of entitlement may be considered a symptom of narcissistic personality disorder, seen in those who 'because of early frustrations...arrogate to themselves the right to demand lifelong reimbursement from fate.[2]

Also...

Definition of ENTITLEMENT
1
a : the state or condition of being entitled : right b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
2
: a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program
3
: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

Wangiss		2012-06-19 04:32:24 PM

Silly Jesus: Wangiss: Silly Jesus: I have a disability, and you WILL do whatever it takes to accommodate me (including spending your own time and money)! Otherwise, I get all of your money!

Yay entitlement!

"An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation."

I was using it in a different context...from WIKI

Narcissism - In clinical psychology and psychiatry, an unrealistic, exaggerated, or rigidly held sense of entitlement may be considered a symptom of narcissistic personality disorder, seen in those who 'because of early frustrations...arrogate to themselves the right to demand lifelong reimbursement from fate.[2]

Also...

Definition of ENTITLEMENT
1
a : the state or condition of being entitled : right b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
2
: a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program
3
: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

Oh, I see, so when we enact legislation establishing a "legal" right, it's not carte blanche for that narcissistic sociopath to believe that they are deserving of it.

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 04:38:58 PM

Wangiss: Silly Jesus: Wangiss: Silly Jesus: I have a disability, and you WILL do whatever it takes to accommodate me (including spending your own time and money)! Otherwise, I get all of your money!

Yay entitlement!

"An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation."

I was using it in a different context...from WIKI

Narcissism - In clinical psychology and psychiatry, an unrealistic, exaggerated, or rigidly held sense of entitlement may be considered a symptom of narcissistic personality disorder, seen in those who 'because of early frustrations...arrogate to themselves the right to demand lifelong reimbursement from fate.[2]

Also...

Definition of ENTITLEMENT
1
a : the state or condition of being entitled : right b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
2
: a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program
3
: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

Oh, I see, so when we enact legislation establishing a "legal" right, it's not carte blanche for that narcissistic sociopath to believe that they are deserving of it.

Such legislation would never come to fruition without the support and advocacy of people with that mindset.

A further example..."welfare queens." Ever seen some of the interviews with them? I'd say that they are definitely afflicted with what was spelled out above, and welfare is a "legal right." Does that somehow make them less "entitlement-minded" just because it's a "legal right?"

netizencain		2012-06-19 04:39:22 PM

We're probably not getting the whole story. She probably has a pet Chihuahua in her purse. But because the ADA doesn't require any proof or licensing of service animals, you can make up any shiat you want and stores have to comply.

/we discussed this last week with a similar story about Good Will.

optikeye		2012-06-19 04:39:25 PM

Silly Jesus: 3
: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

It's not a 'belief' when it's the law.

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 04:42:25 PM

optikeye: Silly Jesus: 3
: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

It's not a 'belief' when it's the law.

Laws are codified beliefs.

Also, see my welfare queen example above. You can bet your arse that they feel entitled, law or not. I doubt that it would be much different for these fine folks.

meow said the dog		2012-06-19 04:43:07 PM

optikeye: It's not a 'belief' when it's the law.

Well it could still be a belief but so is the belief in evolution--you can believe something that is true is in fact the true thing.

Walker		2012-06-19 04:43:36 PM

It will.....

WhyteRaven74		2012-06-19 04:45:41 PM

Silly Jesus: I doubt that it would be much different for these fine folks.

So what you're saying is that it should be ok for the store to not let the woman in with her service dog? REALLY?

MadAzza		2012-06-19 04:45:59 PM

I'm on her side, but how is a dog going to assist her with shopping for clothes?

Also, FTA: the woman is trying to "stay upbeat about her ordeal."

Ordeal?

Wangiss		2012-06-19 04:53:08 PM

MadAzza: I'm on her side, but how is a dog going to assist her with shopping for clothes?

Also, FTA: the woman is trying to "stay upbeat about her ordeal."

Ordeal?

It was a typo. After the event, she was beat up by her dealer.

optikeye		2012-06-19 04:56:17 PM

Silly Jesus: Also, see my welfare queen example above. You can bet your arse that they feel entitled, law or not. I doubt that it would be much different for these fine folks.

www.thepolitic.com

MadAzza		2012-06-19 04:58:34 PM

Silly Jesus: optikeye: Silly Jesus: 3
: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

It's not a 'belief' when it's the law.

Laws are codified beliefs.

Also, see my welfare queen example above. You can bet your arse that they feel entitled, law or not. I doubt that it would be much different for these fine folks.

It doesn't matter how they "feel." The fact is, they are, by law, entitled to certain services or concessions.

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 04:59:51 PM

WhyteRaven74: Silly Jesus: I doubt that it would be much different for these fine folks.

So what you're saying is that it should be ok for the store to not let the woman in with her service dog? REALLY?

Yeah, I'm quaint and old fashioned like that, I know. I think that store owners should be allowed to decide what, if any, animals come onto/into their property rather than self righteous folks demanding that they and their animal be allowed entrance onto the property of someone else, regardless of the feelings of the property owner.

what_now		2012-06-19 05:02:40 PM

Silly Jesus: Yeah, I'm quaint and old fashioned like that, I know. I think that store owners should be allowed to decide what, if any, animals come onto/into their property rather than self righteous folks demanding that they and their animal be allowed entrance onto the property of someone else, regardless of the feelings of the property owner.

Should they also be able to tell them colored folk to git?

netizencain		2012-06-19 05:05:18 PM

Also, if the dog shiats or piss, the owner doesn't have to clean it up.

WhyteRaven74		2012-06-19 05:07:12 PM

Silly Jesus: I think that store owners should be allowed to decide what, if any, animals come onto/into their property rather than self righteous folks demanding that they and their animal be allowed entrance onto the property of someone else,

What's self righteous about being treated equally?

RichieLaw		2012-06-19 05:21:58 PM

Silly Jesus: WhyteRaven74: Silly Jesus: I doubt that it would be much different for these fine folks.

So what you're saying is that it should be ok for the store to not let the woman in with her service dog? REALLY?

Yeah, I'm quaint and old fashioned like that, I know. I think that store owners should be allowed to decide what, if any, animals come onto/into their property rather than self righteous folks demanding that they and their animal be allowed entrance onto the property of someone else, regardless of the feelings of the property owner.

::clapping.jpeg::

Bravo sir. Flawless victory.

meow said the dog		2012-06-19 05:22:10 PM

WhyteRaven74: What's self righteous about being treated equally?

You should read Harrison Bergeron.

ManateeGag		2012-06-19 05:33:06 PM

what_now: I guarnetee that dog is better behaved than half the customers in that store.

I'll go one further and guarantee that the dog is better behaved than all of the children parents bring into the store with them.

WhyteRaven74		2012-06-19 05:33:40 PM

meow said the dog: You should read Harrison Bergeron.

What about Tom Bergeron?

Ed Finnerty		2012-06-19 05:59:54 PM

Q: How can you tell if a woman is blind?

A: She walks into an Ann Taylor store.

Wangiss		2012-06-19 06:06:50 PM

Ed Finnerty: Q: How can you tell if a woman is blind?

A: She walks into an Ann Taylor store.

[Price is Right trombones]

MadAzza		2012-06-19 06:28:29 PM

WhyteRaven74: meow said the dog: You should read Harrison Bergeron.

What about Tom Bergeron?

Get out of my head!

AbbeySomeone		2012-06-19 06:51:23 PM

I like Ann Taylor and can understand why they gave her the boot because most of the customers don't want dog hair, smell, drool on their clothing. Also, does the dog have a fashion sense? WTF?
Bottomline, AT employees will get harrassed.

Apos		2012-06-19 06:57:41 PM

AbbeySomeone: I like Ann Taylor and can understand why they gave her the boot because most of the customers don't want dog hair, smell, drool on their clothing. Also, does the dog have a fashion sense? WTF?
Bottomline, AT employees will get harrassed.

I must confess that,like her,I didn't see this coming.

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 07:18:03 PM

what_now: Silly Jesus: Yeah, I'm quaint and old fashioned like that, I know. I think that store owners should be allowed to decide what, if any, animals come onto/into their property rather than self righteous folks demanding that they and their animal be allowed entrance onto the property of someone else, regardless of the feelings of the property owner.

Should they also be able to tell them colored folk to git?

Lol. You couldn't help yourself, could you?

Frankly, although it wouldn't be my business practice to discriminate in such a way, I think that a business owner should be able to sell the fruits of his labor to whomever he pleases, rather than who the federal government tells him to.

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 07:21:05 PM

WhyteRaven74: Silly Jesus: I think that store owners should be allowed to decide what, if any, animals come onto/into their property rather than self righteous folks demanding that they and their animal be allowed entrance onto the property of someone else,

What's self righteous about being treated equally?

Equal? Huh? Other people can't bring their animals in, only the "disabled." How does a special exemption for a select group become equality?

Silly Jesus		2012-06-19 07:23:55 PM

RichieLaw: Silly Jesus: WhyteRaven74: Silly Jesus: I doubt that it would be much different for these fine folks.

So what you're saying is that it should be ok for the store to not let the woman in with her service dog? REALLY?

Yeah, I'm quaint and old fashioned like that, I know. I think that store owners should be allowed to decide what, if any, animals come onto/into their property rather than self righteous folks demanding that they and their animal be allowed entrance onto the property of someone else, regardless of the feelings of the property owner.

::clapping.jpeg::

Bravo sir. Flawless victory.

notsureifserious.jpg

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