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2012-06-19 03:14:09 PM

Limac333: As a gun owner, this bears repeating.


As does THIS


I am a gun owner and required to be in the NRA to maintain my club membership (which gets me places to fish, hunt, and drink...). It really cheeses me off that the NRA has selected the "full retard" option.
 
2012-06-19 03:14:28 PM

OneBrightMonkey: This issue is going to get really fun in about 70 years when shoulder mounted thermonuclear launchers and handheld laser vaporizers are on the market.

Liberals like me will be in coffee shops waxing on about how the founders would have been totally fine with AK47s with extended banana clips, but they never expected the second amendment to cover pocket sized predator drones.


What a horrifying future. Liberalism still around in 70 years.....
 
2012-06-19 03:14:43 PM

dittybopper: oldfarthenry: What happened to all the ammo you Yanks bought during your last three jazz-hand drama-queen freakouts? It's not like it's bread that goes stale after a few days - geesh!

We shot it all, 'cause shootin' is fun.

No, seriously, it really is.


In real world, what passed for Expert rating in the military is way behind the curve of average of most regular civilian shooters these days.
 
2012-06-19 03:14:52 PM
As a owner of many guns, and a former member of the NRA, I dropped my membership when they stopped being the National Rifle Association, and became the National Republican Association. Seriously, the political arm of the NRA never sleeps! They call, they petition, and they email you - all to make sure you vote for the GOP.

By the way, they should vote Obama the gun salesman of the century.

He's earned it.
 
2012-06-19 03:15:02 PM
Excuse me while I interrupt this thread....

i303.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-19 03:15:04 PM
There is definitely an ammo bubble. You gotta buy as cheap a possible and don't look at it as a financial investment.
 
2012-06-19 03:15:05 PM
The gun industry secretly LOVES Obama since he's makes a great marketing topic.
 
2012-06-19 03:15:08 PM
I saw this article on Zerohedge back in March. Sturm, Ruger & Co was selling so many guns that it had to stop taking orders because their manufacturing capacity couldn't keep up.
 
2012-06-19 03:15:10 PM

Dr Dreidel: Tat'dGreaser: That reminds me, I need to buy another 1000 rounds of .45

Sheeeeeeit. 20 boxes of .45 ammo at the range (I know I'm getting hosed on price) would be $660. I'm guessing you get some sort of volume discount (I'm pretty sure they come in boxes bigger than 50 rounds) and a better price (not getting them from a range as I do), but how much does a purchase like that run in the real world?

// thinking about buying a .40 as soon as a $7-800 price tag doesn't scare me more than getting robbed


Yes - you are getting hosed. Real world price for 50 rounds of .45 is $13 for Russian/steel stuff and $17-$18 for brass. 1,000 rounds of CCI is $310.

Ammoseek.com .45 prices Link
 
2012-06-19 03:16:26 PM
As someone who does not yet own a gun, the loonies in the Tea Party and the conservative GOP are driving me to buy one.

If this nation elects a bunch of Donald Trumps and Sarah Palins to political power I am going to need some serious firepower... We will be headed back to third world status. Get your mud huts ready...
 
2012-06-19 03:16:38 PM

dullspork: The gun industry secretly LOVES Obama since he's makes a great marketing topic.


Yeah it would be a shame to let a good crisis go to waste.
 
2012-06-19 03:19:09 PM

limeyfellow: So I guess the NRA are just angry about being able to conceal carry in Federal parks.


You mean the rider that was attached to Obama's "must pass" Credit CARD Act of 2009?

Yeah, I'm sure he was giddy with excitement about signing that provision into law.
 
2012-06-19 03:19:34 PM
Strange, last time I stocked up there was ample supply at decent prices. I call BS on this report based upon my real world on the ground experience.
 
2012-06-19 03:20:08 PM

dittybopper: limeyfellow: So I guess the NRA are just angry about being able to conceal carry in Federal parks.

You mean the rider that was attached to Obama's "must pass" Credit CARD Act of 2009?

Yeah, I'm sure he was giddy with excitement about signing that provision into law.


Don't bother. They are just spewing talking points.
 
2012-06-19 03:20:09 PM
Picked up 1,000 rounds of .308 at the gun show the other day for $412. Best deal i've seen on that pretty much ever.

/1,000 rounds is pretty difficult to carry out to the car.
 
2012-06-19 03:20:23 PM

LasersHurt: I am pro-gun ownership, so understand when I say: Gun nuts, this is why people are scared of you.


Then there's this asshat.

www.newyorker.com


Nugent goes out of his way to validate all the fears non gun owners have about gun owners. He is no friend to the NRA cause. He simply runs around shooting his mouth off and convincing anybody who is still on the fence that the NRA is indeed full of fear filled hate mongering mouth breathers.

I am a gun owner and believe gun ownership is good for a country (citizens v. subjects) but this draft-dodging pussy is NOT helping.
 
2012-06-19 03:21:33 PM

blackhalo: netweavr: I wish you f*ckers would stop buying bullets.

Seriously. It's impossible these days to find good, reliable, inexpensive ammo. You've already stocked up, arseholes.


So much this.

Can't a girl get a little target shooting done without running to three different stores to buy ammo, and breaking the bank in the process?

/Fark the NRA
 
2012-06-19 03:21:41 PM
www.metalsludge.tv

/has bullets to spare
 
2012-06-19 03:22:00 PM

J. Frank Parnell: [boourns.cjb.net image 600x450]

/obligatory


OMG! Just look at those drapes! Yellow walls with beige carpet? I'm going to be sick.
 
2012-06-19 03:22:06 PM

Ned Stark: OneBrightMonkey: This issue is going to get really fun in about 70 years when shoulder mounted thermonuclear launchers and handheld laser vaporizers are on the market.

Liberals like me will be in coffee shops waxing on about how the founders would have been totally fine with AK47s with extended banana clips, but they never expected the second amendment to cover pocket sized predator drones.

What a horrifying future. Liberalism still around in 70 years.....


Don't worry kid.

The Dems are moving to the right so fast that by that time being "Liberal" will only mean that you believe that black newborns should get a six month trial period to prove they are one of the "goods ones" before immediate transfer to post-natal incarceration camps.

You seem like a real salt of the earth asshole, so I'm sure you and your progeny will be fine.
 
2012-06-19 03:22:13 PM

snocone: dittybopper: oldfarthenry: What happened to all the ammo you Yanks bought during your last three jazz-hand drama-queen freakouts? It's not like it's bread that goes stale after a few days - geesh!

We shot it all, 'cause shootin' is fun.

No, seriously, it really is.

In real world, what passed for Expert rating in the military is way behind the curve of average of most regular civilian shooters these days.


I mostly shot Expert in the military, and *NEVER* shot below high Sharpshooter. Yet I'm about what I'd consider an "average" shot on most days, and certainly not as good as a lot of the people I meet at shooting events.
 
2012-06-19 03:22:57 PM

URAPNIS: 9beers: Probably people stocking up for when the case against Zimmerman is dropped.

That is actually a valid point.
It'll be ugly in some cities.


No. No, its not a valid point at all. No one is preparing to riot over Trayvon Martin any more than they prepared to riot over Rodney King. The fact that I keep seeing a lot of (mostly white) people saying this lets me know many of you still don't get what the L.A. riots and the anger over Trayvon Martin are about.

The LA riots were a rejection of the judicial systems acceptance of police brutality, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. The Trayvon Martin outrage is about the legal system's seeming indifference to the murder of an unarmed black child who commited no crimes. Riots are usually emotional, not calculated.
 
2012-06-19 03:23:24 PM
J. Frank Parnell:
boourns.cjb.net

/obligatory


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-19 03:23:45 PM
I don't believe in Zimmerman
spacecolab.org
 
2012-06-19 03:23:53 PM

umad: dittybopper: limeyfellow: So I guess the NRA are just angry about being able to conceal carry in Federal parks.

You mean the rider that was attached to Obama's "must pass" Credit CARD Act of 2009?

Yeah, I'm sure he was giddy with excitement about signing that provision into law.

Don't bother. They are just spewing talking points.


Yeah, but you can't let talking points just go unanswered when they give a false impression.
 
2012-06-19 03:23:59 PM
Notice how gun tards, creationist tards, birther tards, and evangelical tards are almost always the same people?
 
2012-06-19 03:24:12 PM

Dr Dreidel:
Sheeeeeeit. 20 boxes of .45 ammo at the range (I know I'm getting hosed on price) would be $660. I'm guessing you get some sort of volume discount (I'm pretty sure they come in boxes bigger than 50 rounds) and a better price (not getting them from a range as I do), but how much does a purchase like that run in the real world?


For range / plinking ammo you can get 1k rounds of .45 for around $325 shipped. That's what I usually pay for 230gr FMJ Aguila branded ammo, and haven't really had any issues with them.

Aguila is usually the best deal for pistol ammo, assuming you are trying to avoid Tula and other steel-cased ammo (I like to save my brass for reloading eventually). For rifle, look for Prvi Partizan (same deal, good reloadable brass).
 
2012-06-19 03:24:13 PM

TheNewJesus: As someone who does not yet own a gun, the loonies in the Tea Party and the conservative GOP are driving me to buy one.


Well let me give you some good advice...

you need 3 guns if the SHTF

1 - .22 Rifle, ammo is CHEAP compared to everything else plus it will take down any small animal for food and also stop most people who aren't jacked up on bath salts
2 - Shotgun, ammo again is not terribly expensive and they are great for defending your home and taking down larger game
3 - .45 Pistol, ammo prices effing suck now but at least you can carry this on your person just in case you are in the middle of reloading your main guns and need to take down the arsehole on bath salts

/let the "you are so wrong crowd" give it to me now
//slashies
 
2012-06-19 03:24:58 PM
I'm pretty involved in the local gun scene and I too roll my eyes when the faithful try to explain Obama's incredibly convoluted plan to take my guns away. But I keep a couple thousand rounds for the AK and 500 or so 12 gauge buck and 9mm Gold Dots, and of course a few bricks of .22lr.

It makes sense for a lot of reasons. It doesn't go bad, it doesn't take up a lot of room, and the prices seem to creep up over time.
 
2012-06-19 03:25:48 PM

i.r.id10t: I've been stockpiling 22, simply because that is what I shoot mostly. Still have most of the 45 and 7.62x51 I bought 5 years ago, simply because I don't shoot the centerfire a lot.

Why stock up on the 22? Because I couldn't find any to buy during 2009. And I've got a new GSG-1911-22 and a 22 conversion on the way for my FAL.


That 22 cal ain't gonna stop Zombies, the UN soldiers, or the Ni*BONG*s
 
2012-06-19 03:27:08 PM

I should be in the kitchen: blackhalo: netweavr: I wish you f*ckers would stop buying bullets.

Seriously. It's impossible these days to find good, reliable, inexpensive ammo. You've already stocked up, arseholes.

So much this.

Can't a girl get a little target shooting done without running to three different stores to buy ammo, and breaking the bank in the process?

/Fark the NRA


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2012-06-19 03:28:13 PM

manimal2878: Hershey Highway Patrol: Quasar: I absolutely love the NRA's logic. Obama is going to take away your guns. He hasn't done anything of the sort yet, and in fact has loosened some gun regulations, but he'll take them away - that's the plan. It's masterful. He's lulling you into a false sense of security because it will be that much sweeter to tear off the second amendment from the constitution itself and wipe his butt with it in front of you. He's just waiting for the right time to do it.

The right time being, of course, only after an incredibly difficult not remotely guaranteed re-election. Masterful.

Now the NRA would NEVER blow something our of proportion for their own gain would they?

[img708.imageshack.us image 469x640]

The NRA is, at this point, a propaganda machined for the republican party. They excel in hyperbole and fearmongering.


They are like the unions of the right. Fear mongrting about rights that haven't been threatened in decades.
 
2012-06-19 03:28:16 PM
Anyone know why .32 bullets are scarce? Or is it just not that popular enough to stock?
 
2012-06-19 03:28:48 PM

Tat'dGreaser:
Damn, I wish I could remember where my roommate got it. We went halves on it. Down to one box each now, need more for the range.


http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=.40+S%26W

Put in your zip code and sort by Total CPR.
 
2012-06-19 03:28:58 PM
Check out the 6 month chart for Smith & Wesson (SWHC).

12/19/2011 - traded at $3.83
by April it was tradeing at almost $8.50

Strum, Ruger & Co (RGR) went from $30 -> almost $60 (although its given everything back since).

During election years with a democrat in office.... buy stock in gun companies!
 
2012-06-19 03:29:46 PM
i149.photobucket.com
Dad, can we get rid of some of the ammo in this bunker so I can have a gaming corner?

WHAT THE- NOOOO!!! WHARRRRGARBLLL!!!
 
2012-06-19 03:30:00 PM

i.r.id10t: I've been stockpiling 22, simply because that is what I shoot mostly. Still have most of the 45 and 7.62x51 I bought 5 years ago, simply because I don't shoot the centerfire a lot.

Why stock up on the 22? Because I couldn't find any to buy during 2009. And I've got a new GSG-1911-22 and a 22 conversion on the way for my FAL.




Could you post a link for the .22 conversion for the FAL? I'm picking up one in about 2 weeks. Brother has a friend who's selling it for $250.

Also GSG is supposed to release a .22 version of a STG 44...

cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com

cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com
 
2012-06-19 03:30:32 PM
Getting ready for when the Meixcan Cartels declare war on Americans
 
2012-06-19 03:30:46 PM

dittybopper: I should be in the kitchen: blackhalo: netweavr: I wish you f*ckers would stop buying bullets.

Seriously. It's impossible these days to find good, reliable, inexpensive ammo. You've already stocked up, arseholes.

So much this.

Can't a girl get a little target shooting done without running to three different stores to buy ammo, and breaking the bank in the process?

/Fark the NRA

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Nice. That took some work.
 
2012-06-19 03:30:47 PM
also, if anyone knows where i can pick up 5.7x28mm rounds.... i'm all ears.
 
2012-06-19 03:30:51 PM

SpectroBoy: i.r.id10t: I've been stockpiling 22, simply because that is what I shoot mostly. Still have most of the 45 and 7.62x51 I bought 5 years ago, simply because I don't shoot the centerfire a lot.

Why stock up on the 22? Because I couldn't find any to buy during 2009. And I've got a new GSG-1911-22 and a 22 conversion on the way for my FAL.

That 22 cal ain't gonna stop Zombies, the UN soldiers, or the Ni*BONG*s


Nope, but practicing the manual of arms with cheap stuff ($20 for all day) vs expensive stuff (50 cents per trigger pull) certainly will help... 22 FAL conversion is a barrel liner/chamber adapter, magazine, and bolt/bolt carrier. For what I've paid for mine with a few extra mags I could've bought 1k rounds of surplus 7.62... but with the kit I can shoot all day for $20, and sit on the half case of 7.62 surplus I have stashed.
 
2012-06-19 03:31:08 PM

Heathen: TheNewJesus: As someone who does not yet own a gun, the loonies in the Tea Party and the conservative GOP are driving me to buy one.

Well let me give you some good advice...

you need 3 guns if the SHTF

1 - .22 Rifle, ammo is CHEAP compared to everything else plus it will take down any small animal for food and also stop most people who aren't jacked up on bath salts
2 - Shotgun, ammo again is not terribly expensive and they are great for defending your home and taking down larger game
3 - .45 Pistol, ammo prices effing suck now but at least you can carry this on your person just in case you are in the middle of reloading your main guns and need to take down the arsehole on bath salts

/let the "you are so wrong crowd" give it to me now
//slashies


If you think it's "The End Of The World As We Know It", you might also want to invest in a quality flintlock and the associated accoutrements.

You can make black powder by hand, you can scavenge the lead to mold bullets, and you can knap new flints out of stuff like old toilet bowls. That way you never have to worry about running out of stockpiled ammo.
 
2012-06-19 03:31:54 PM

brewthunda: Dr Dreidel: Tat'dGreaser: That reminds me, I need to buy another 1000 rounds of .45

Sheeeeeeit. 20 boxes of .45 ammo at the range (I know I'm getting hosed on price) would be $660. I'm guessing you get some sort of volume discount (I'm pretty sure they come in boxes bigger than 50 rounds) and a better price (not getting them from a range as I do), but how much does a purchase like that run in the real world?

// thinking about buying a .40 as soon as a $7-800 price tag doesn't scare me more than getting robbed

Yes - you are getting hosed. Real world price for 50 rounds of .45 is $13 for Russian/steel stuff and $17-$18 for brass. 1,000 rounds of CCI is $310.

Ammoseek.com .45 prices Link


Draskuul: For range / plinking ammo you can get 1k rounds of .45 for around $325 shipped. That's what I usually pay for 230gr FMJ Aguila branded ammo, and haven't really had any issues with them.

Aguila is usually the best deal for pistol ammo, assuming you are trying to avoid Tula and other steel-cased ammo (I like to save my brass for reloading eventually). For rifle, look for Prvi Partizan (same deal, good reloadable brass).


The thing is, I don't actually own a weapon, and when I rent from the range, I have to use their ammo anyway. I was asking more because I want to know how badly I'm getting hosed. 100+% markup seems...excessive.

For one or two trips per year, though, I don't mind. It's still cheaper than buying and maintaining my own $800 weapon (plus ammo, supplies, plus I'd still have to pay for range time...).
 
2012-06-19 03:32:29 PM

simplicimus: Anyone know why .32 bullets are scarce? Or is it just not that popular enough to stock?


Probably just not a lot of demand. Most folks go with at least a .380 nowadays.
 
2012-06-19 03:32:55 PM

cubic_spleen: See, the folks in charge of the NRA are smart - they know how to push the buttons of insecure, uneducated FOX news viewers (but I repeat myself), and convince them that they should buy bullets instead of gold. Which, to be fair, is probably smarter in the long term.


www.instructables.com

Bullets and bottle-caps. The smart investment for the future.
 
2012-06-19 03:33:26 PM

snocone: justinsmith354: These fools are stockpiling ammo also

This is why we can't have good bullets.

Amazed am I that sales of reloading gear is not all that hot.


It's a bit of a nut at first. I wonder about legal repercussions from reloads.

While on the topic, anyone have any input of this, for pistol calibers? Maybe 2000 rounds a year.

Square Deal 'B'
www.dillonprecision.biz
 
2012-06-19 03:34:04 PM
What this country needs is common sense voting control.
 
2012-06-19 03:34:19 PM

OneBrightMonkey: This issue is going to get really fun in about 70 years when shoulder mounted thermonuclear launchers and handheld laser vaporizers are on the market.

Liberals like me will be in coffee shops waxing on about how the founders would have been totally fine with AK47s with extended banana clips, but they never expected the second amendment to cover pocket sized predator drones.



Which the average group of computer geek, airplane enthusiast and gun enthusiast could probably already build now, working together in a garage.

/which honestly sounds kind of cool
//waits for the youtube videos
 
2012-06-19 03:35:12 PM

Trackball: I wish all of you people would stop exercising your rights.


I've no problem with people "exercising their rights" but binge amo buying is either a tax on stupid or it's a sign that someone plans on conducting some intimidation or murder. Obama, even though he's a democrat, is not anti-gun. I'm sure if you asked him about it he'd want to limit people from excesses, but it's never been one of his hot button issues.

Now here is where I get annoyed with the NRA. They assume everyone who has an NRA card is a redneck yokel who want to string up the black lib for Herpaderp. It has nothing to do with firearms at this point.
 
2012-06-19 03:35:27 PM
If that's the case, then they need to stock up on the special election year bullshiat piercing rounds.
 
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